so, may a good team win there thank you so much. >> thank you, governor. >> all right, thank you very much. more news straight ahead, smerconish is next. we'll see you again in one hour. i'm michael smerconish in philadelphia. we welcome our viewers in the united states, a blow to howard schultz's possible run. we should not be atacking him. why the naysayers are all wrong, ralph northam, this follow's backlash about his controversial comments about late-term abortions. will he survive? and he wasn't junior's mystery caller around the trump tower meeting. rod rosenstein told his lawyers he's not a subject or a target. might the president end up dodging the mueller probe's

neck? plus, tomorrow, super bowl will be historical in american gambling history. thanks to a supreme court ruling, bets on the game are now legal in eight states and soon sports gambling could go nationwide, will this make sports better or worse? but first, i love our country. i am seriously thinking of running for president as a centrist independent, for tweeting and repeating that sent it's, howard schultz the former ceo of starbucks received a remarkable public spanking this week. just look alt these headlines. instead of applauding the willingness of a 65-year-old accomplished businessman and legitimate billionaire to enter the arena, he was lamb basted and literally heckled. at a book event this week in new york city, schultz endured this. >> you gotist cal billionaire [

bleep ]. >> r. >> he was peppered with questions, asked a ridiculous riddle about the price of cheerios in the hope he will be heckled out of the race, concern came from democrats that his presence in the race would lead to donald trump's re-election. harold schultz they had us believe would be the spoiler's version of 1992's ross perot, ralph made thener 2000, where 20 scene jill stein and gary johnson that argument is belied by the facts. none of those candidates altered the course of those elections, ronald reagan wiped out, jimmy carter in 1980, john anderson captured 6.6% of the vote and zero electoral votes. he may have altered the debate, but on election day he was a non-entity. in 1992, despite political war, ross perot did not cost george h.w. bush his re-election fight when fatesing bill clinton. perot won 19% of the popular vote but, no, perot did not cost

bush the election. if you think otherwise, you should watch the perot myth which is a film from 538 and espn films. remember, pore row got out of the race in july, came back october 1st, when he joined the debates, he made an impact. when it was over, he garnered 19%, the highest share as a third party since teddy roosevelt in 1912, but it's not true that he took more from one or from the other. exit polls show they would have split equally. here's poll expert nate silver. >> president bush within you have a guy whose rating is plummeting every month in a downward spiral, he was lucky to come as close as he did. >> ralph nader gets the same blame, overlooking the 250,000 florida democrats voted for bush or that gore lost his home state

of tennessee, and in 2016, donald trump didn't win because of jill stein or the two former governors, trump won because he motivated his base to get out and vote better than clinton did. what desides stereotypeing makes people assume that a jill stein voter would have otherwise cast a ballot for hillary clinton or a johnson weld voter would have done otherwise. plus, more american voters sat out the 2016 presidential race than voted for either trump or clinton or third party tickets. if you are still bitter, about the outcome of 2016. i suggest you focus your energies on those owho didn't get off their [ bleep ] or blame the faultles of your favorite candidate who provided insufficient instration to vote. schultz said he wants to run as an individual centrist. if he does, he will be in good company. a gallop found more americans

self identified as independents, 42% than democrats, 30% or republicans, 26%. hey, by that logic, maybe schultz should be telling the democratic field that they should stand down, let's ruin his shot. if we learned one thing from 2016, it is that we know nothing about what the future holds. so let's let this play out. obama's speech writer john favreau tweeted this, quote, 91 of the explanations coming from howard schultz or his advisers answer a very simple question, if he thinks he has a winning message, why can't he run in a democratic primary? why does he get to skip that contest? just because he's a billionaire. would love to hear an answer. well, john, put this on your podcast, accepting schultz at face value, he's no longer comfortable being a democrat. he said this on "60 minutes." >> i look at both parties. we see extremes on both sides.

where we are sitting today with approximately 21.5 trillion of debt. which is a reckless examples. not only of republicans, but of democrats as well, as a reckless failure of their constitutional responsibility. >> and according to washington post, citing a growing national debt, he says he opposes liberal proposals to provide people with free healthcare, college education or giern tee'd public jobs. we have to go after entitlements, he said last year, though he has not described what that would mean for programs like social social security and when kamela harris said she'd get rid of insurance companies, schultz said, look, that's not american. the only people upset about schultz or legitimate third-party candidate getting in are those satisfied with the status quo. well, count me out. the only way to break out of the

two-party stranglehold is if we reject the same old choices. and apparently, 42% of americans, a plurality agree with me. most fundamentally, this is america. everyone should be encouraged to participate and to run. the dynamics of a multi-candidate race are only unpredictable. the naysayers on schultz may be his gland handers in two years. joining me now to discuss, adviser to howard schultz, bill burt, a deputy press secretary to barack obama. i just did all your work for you, bill. >> i don't know what i'm going to do on the show now, but thank you. >> okay. but now i need to go harder on you, because those are my sentiments, are they necessarily yours? and you know where i'm going, the sacramento bee wrote this, published this essay you wrote in 2016, where you bought into this. you said if stein or libertarian

gary johnson needed support a little, that could matter in a close election. in the same way i would bet that ralph nader or many of his supporters wishes he didn't make john bush our 43rd xander in chief. i suppose stein supporters would not want to be in the position of explaining to kids how they helped make trump president. you know that's the exact argument people are making against schultz. >> you know, there is another essay i wrote for the sacramento bee a couple months before that, we should be worried about donald trump winning the presidency. because no one was worried enough at the time that donald trump presented a clear and present danger to this country and kouchld be elected and then he was. now, in that essay, what i said was jill stein couldn't make a meaningful difference in that race, except to stop hillary clinton. the difference between now and 2016 is a lot. what howard schultz is saying is he considers this bid for the presidency. is it what jill stein was saying? it's that the two candidates

were close together. he is saying the two party versus moved so far apart, that the american people are close together. they're losing a voice in this conversation. what he is doing is going around the country, talking to the american people, seeing there really is an interest in trying to find a better way. we can all agree politics is broken. what howard schultz is doing is asking the question of whether or not a new choice could help to fix it. >> john fab broe say -- i'd rather here yours. >> here's the thing, i worked on a fair number, mile. they're often decided by a hand. of battleground states and a hand. of battleground precincts inside of those states. howard schultz is ask, what if we did this differently? what if every state mattered, every voter that pertase pated got to have a voice, it doesn't matter what city you lived in,

whether it was arizona, kansas, north dakota, every single time, everybody got to be involved. is that a path to healing? is that a path to a better outcome for the united states. and when it comes to the democratic party, he just feels like the primary system is setting up a fever dream of unelectability that he doesn't want to participate in. he doesn't think that that is what his home is right now. and so when you are talking about completely ending the health insurance industry, or you talk about eliminating i.c.e. or getting too the far outreaches of the fringes of american politics, he doesn't think that's a path to a better outcome. he thinks it's a path to more shouting and yelling. we didn't hear a lot about progress. >> has he had some recent epiphany that he wants to let his independent freak flag fly? i mean, how did this come to pass? heretofore, he has been a reliable democrat, albeit one

who didn't always vote? >> i think that over the course of the last couple of years, he's been watching how things have been playing out in walk. between the shutdowns a tornadoes increased temperature and the volume of all the sniping. and he just decided that if he was going to do this, he would consider it as an independent, because he thought if we don't try some new things, if we don't consider what the different outcomes could be, we could very much ends up in a situation where donald trump gets reelected. he thinks that donald trump is fundament ally unfit for office, he will do anything that he can, which he is doing right now to stop that from happening. and so all he's doing is asking a question of the american people, do you want a new choice? >> is he getting weak-kneed? and i ask this, because fox business reported, we'll put this up on the screen, cnn could not confirm he is set said to be looking more closely at whether he wants to go through with the effort he was freaked out and caught unaware by the vicious nature of the blowback that he sustained this week.

. >> he knew that there was going to be blow back. he is excited to continue this conversation and what we have heard at the home office is there is a lot of people who are really interested in this effort. we've heard from thousands of people, hundreds of people vent in their resumes. people to me directly have sent so many messages of support say that want to be involved in some way and i have to tell you, this is so different from anything that i've ever done. it's democrats, republicans, independents, people who are in the military, people in journalism all working side-by-side. the diversity of thought and interest is a pretty amazing thing. respectfully, i don't think you answered my question, though, is he now reconsidering because of the vicious, i think unfair, you heard what i think, but because of that reaction is it causing him to say, hey, i may not want to do this? >> no. >> okay. and final question, what what about you? you have given your credentials,

the high roam you play for barack obama. i have got to believe your democratic friends are leaning on you and saying, like, bill, what the [ bleep ] are you doing? >> look, i've heard from hundreds of people directly this week, recently people i worked with a long time ago. there has been a wide range of opinions, including some of the people you talked about on the show earlier. i would say the vast majority of people that i have heard from, the vast majority have been very encouraging and have said you know i should like keep up the fight, like let's answer this question. let's find out what's happening. you know what, when you are in the arena, you got to take some arrows, to be along for this ride, at what can be a historic moment in this country is great. >> i know what the status quo looks like, apparently 40-some percent of us aren't satisfied. thank you for getting up early. i really appreciate your being here. >> thank you. >> talk to you soon. what are your sthots? tweet me at smerconish.

i'm sure you will crash my twitter feed and facebook page today. that's okay. i will read some during the course of the program. michael, your smack in the middle is getting frayed. you are right, they are always extraordinary times. this is another one of the arguments that i heard this week. like, michael, at any other time, your argument makes sense. at any other time, not this time. then they say because it's the most important election of your lifetime. ladies and gentlemen, i have been paying attention, an active participant since 1980 and every election since the reagan-carter race in '80, i have been told is the most important election of our lifetime. in four years, believe me, they'll be saying that again. give me one more if we've got time. can you tell i'm fired up about this subject? i love smerconish in the he starts talking about third party politics. then i want to hit him in the

head with a frying pan. hey, patrick, you must be loving the choices you got. you love these two choices? why do 42%, some of us lie, why are the 30-plus percent not happy with the status quo? we want different selections and sooner or later, we're going no get them to say to this guy, shame on you, howard schultz, we don't want you in the public debate. 2459s not right. that's not american, dare i say. up ahead, a racist photo in the 1984 med school yearbook of virginia governor ralph northam has many callinger him to resign. i want to know what you think. will you go to smerconish.com. should virginia governor ralph northam resign in light of appearing in the black kkk photo?

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in the wake oof the release of a yearbook photo will governor northam be forced to resign. his yearbook page shows someone in a blackface and a klankman's

robe. he released an apology video on twitter here's an excerpt. >> that photo and the racist and offensive attitudes it represents does not reflect that person i am today or the way i have conducted myself as a soldier, a doctor and a public servant. i am deeply sorry. >> that hasn't satisfied a wide swath of politicians and community leaders who are calling for him to step down. they include recently declared black presidential candidates kamela harris and corey booker. northam is saying he cannot recall. this is a killer, which person he was in the photo, so is his political career still viable? joining me now to discuss is theodore johnson, a senior fellow for the brennan center for justice who happens to be a residence of the great state. ted, that last part he says he's not sure which one?

because i mean he'd be better served if he said at different times i was in a robe and blackface, to say i don't know which one i was means to me it was such an insignificant event in his life, like holy crap, how does it not stand out in his mind. you go ahead and react. >> so that's a bad answer. in fact, the better answer would have been to keep his mouth shut, really, and not address whether he was the one in blackface or under the hood. it's immaterial. he was in the picture. the picture is racist. now he has to determine whether or not he still has the support of the people of virginia. look the government derives its power from the consent of the government. he does not have that consent anymore, he needs to determine whether or not he can effectively serve as governor. look. >> you think he should stay? >> so, look, these kind of things are a political calculation. you know, morally, folks should

be allowed to apologize and rec tile i i'll and offer remedies and redemption. this isn't a moral question. this is a political question. when we talk about impeachments. we talk about apologies, these are political actions and, frankly, if the virginia house, the virginia senate, virginia democrats, former governors like doug las wilder, when all of these folks are telling you to step aside, when powers in the democratic party are telling to you step aside, politically, you cannot be effective in that role anymore. >> it occurs to me this is not a keg or a squeeze house. i'm caught up in the fact that he's 25 and in med school and i see, i don't know how i feel if it's blackface, i'm inclined to say you are done. i want no ask you about that in a moment. i see a difference between a high school and i'm thinking, of course, of the cavanaugh yearbook, we went through this. albeit, that was not blackface and med school 25 years old, you

are a man. >> that's right. >> are you not a teenager, that brain is more developed significantly. do you see significance of the fact that he was in med school and 25 at the time? >> it matters. frankly, if he was an undergrad, it would matter, if he was 25, 30, he was an adult, a grown man. other yearbook photos have come out from his undergrad days at the virginia institute where one of his nicknames was coonman, in medical school under a blackface or a hood. it makes one wonder whether this was a pattern of behavior or not. the fact that he was in medical school, 25. a study came out 2015, 2016, that canvassed medical students to determine what they thought of medical differences between black and white people. this is three or four years ago. medical students believe their skin is thicker. the bloodcooing a lates differently. so education, being in medical school, 25, racism does not care

and if that's a part of your character or something that you sort of scoff atsh then it shows, so it's inexcusable and age doesn't make it better or worse. >> okay. everything you've just said is very reasonable to me. by this take token, i'm trying to understand what standard we are defining. because i don't believe in a professional death sentence for something that you do in your formiddive years, lit me show you something said by the senate majority leader in virginia. this is richard sazlaw. his whole life has been about exactly the opposite, and that's what you need to examine, not something that occurred 30 years ago. while it's in very poor daift taft, i would think no one in the general assembly would like their college conduct examines. i would hate to have to go back and examine my two years in the

army. trust me, i was 18-years-old and i was a handful, okay? his life since then has been anything but, it's been a life of helping people. does that matter or is he still done? >> it should matter to his personal growth and friends and family. but when it comes to the question of politics, the only question that matters, does he still have the confidence of his caucus and of people of virginia? if the answer is no, the personal growth that's happened over the last three decades is, frankly, not the point. look, i've served in the military, i'm a retired military guy. i will tell you when commanders lose the faith of the people that report to them, they are removed from office. loss of confidence in one's ability to lead is a removable offense. and so, and it doesn't matter what the offense that caused that loss of confidence happened yesterday or two decades ago. people's lives at are at stake here. governments aren't popularity

contests. so again if he cannot lead the people of virginia, he's got to take that into consideration. his personal growth, 1984 the way the picture looks, is beside the point. >> theodore johnson, ted, thank you. appreciate it there thanks, thanks for having many e. >> let's see what you are saying via twitter and facebook. keep the comments rolling. smerconish, i'd like to know how this wasn't brought forth by the media vetting when he was a candidate? this is campaign malpractice in the era of which we live? how did his political who point not send somebody to the med socal and say, hey, take a gandezaer at that yearbook? that's the first thing i thought of after i decide how reprehensible this picture was. you lay it on the media, i put it on his political opponents. >> when did we become a country with no forgiveness and no second chances?

i would hate to have something i did at age 25 held against me like that. he knows it wane he sees it. i'm over caffeinated today. blackface, indefensible. but what kind of a standard are we setting then for teenage years and early 20s relative to limitations that you can't run for office, you can never be a public servant. people have life changing experiences and get on a better path. well, in any event, i want to know what you think. the website has already crashed once today. go to smerconish.com. answer today's survey. should virginia governor ralph northam resign in light of appearing in the blackface/kkk photo. tomorrow, super bowl liii, vams versus patriots. it's the first one people other than the state of nevada can legally vote on the game. will this bring added value or

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those calls could be a smoking gun proving trump, himself, knew the meeting about it as it was happening. then on friday the "new york times" quoted trump as saying rod rosenstein has assured his lawyers the president is not the focus or target of the investigation. you put that all together, it might suggest mueller will write a report highly critical of those in trump's orbit but will not reach the president, himself, too date, mueller charged six associates, 34 overall with three companies. these cases are on two zijt tracks the russian defendants who stand aused of one crime and americans accused of violations, we have yet to see the everyday of that linking the two. will that come? or is this the way the probe will end? a man that teaches at george washington law school joins me now, randall, you who in the washington post recently there

are two possible outcomes. what are they? >> right. so mueller was originally tasked with looking at russian interference in the election and whether this was involvement with that interference so one possibility that everybody has been focusing on, is will he find this grand conspiracy involving russians and members of the campaign to try to interfere with the 2016 election. as you pointed out, we haven't seen any charges like that yet. we've seen two sort of strat tracks, russians charged with the interference and people in the trump campaign charged with sort of covering up contacts with rush during the investigation. >> that is the second possibility, mueller will include the many documented contacts with russians that have come to light might have been improper, immoral, you know, reckless, any number of things, not necessarily criminal in and of themselves, people close to

the president lied about them in order to cover up those contacts, not because they were crimes, necessarily, but they would have been politically devastating if they were revealed. >> why carve out and charge stone now if you are headed for bigger things, meaning mueller, conspiracy, collusion? >> that's a really good question. we should preface all these discussions by saying, we don't know. bob mueller knows so much more than any of the rest of us do. we don't know what's coming. what else he has discovered so we're all trying to read tea leaves in all of these discussions. the most common reason to carve out someone like stone and charge him separately would be to get him to flip and testify in the larger investigation. it's a little harder to believe that bob mueller wants someone like roger stone with his credibility issues to become kind of a star witness or that he needs him and, in fact, if you would argue that he charged stone because he needs him to

make the conspiracy case, that almost suggests, you know the case isn't there. if he's relying on someone like stone to try to make that case for him. so i think it's a little bit of a mystery why stone gets carved out right now. you know, another possibility is someone suggested mueller's probe is wrapping up, he's bringing his final cases. but again, we don't know. >> okay. the president sat down with the "new york times" this week, relative to roger rosenstein. he said something interesting. roll it, please. >> he told the attorney, i'm not a target. oh, yeahment. >> about which? >> i don't think. >> that i don't know about. >> i mean, that's a good distinction. of course, there is the sdny. >> that may have a life all its own. professor, put it altogether, where we began this conversation. as you read the tea leaves, does

it seem to you headed for resolution that will not focus on the conduct of the president? >> well, again, there are two krings i things wrapped into there. one is that the president was a criminal or not. second, even if mueller can you indict a sitting president. whether it's a target or subject, typically refers to if you expect to be indicted or not. if the department of policy says you can't indict a president. you can say well the president can never be a target by definition, because he can't be indicted. again, we're trying to sort of read the tea leaves and see what this can mean. a real possibility is those around the president get charged with these cover-up crimes, like stone and michael flynn and michael cohen have already been charged with. there is a report of some kind that comes in that this very critical of the campaign and the mr. president's behavior -- the

president's behavior but doesn't get charged to the president, himself. >> and never the two shall meet, meaning the russianles for the underlying crime the hack, a and the so-called process crimes that were committed by those in trump's orbit really didn't overlap. you're right. we don't know. i'm just trying to take the pulse of the situation. thank you for being here. >> thank you. let's check in on your tweets and facebook comments, hit me with one. what do we have? smerconish, it really does not matter, impeachment is a political process and as long as the republicans control the senate not much is going to happen till 2020 election. i don't agree with that. nancy pelosi has steam regardless of what the mueller probe shows. i think that in the end either there is a smoking gun or there is not. if there is, republicans in the senate will have to act knowledge it. putting together all those pieces that i just outlined in

my conversation with randall elison, it seems to me, it's headed to an ugly report, how could it not be? but it doesn't directly address the president or people close to him for collusion or maybe even obstruction. remember that alan dershowitz argument which says he had a right to fire comey. let me say one more thing, i want to get this off my chest and don't lose fact that it's rod rosenstein who wrote the memo on the firing of comey. how can it be obstruction of justice when rod rosenstein gave him the paperwork-to-do it. please go to my website customer conish.com. should virginia governor ralph northam resign in light of appearing in the blackface/kkk photo. seven states are legalized

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tomorrow's super bowl will be historical in american gambling history. for the first time, wagers will be allowed to wager not just in nevada but seven other states by next year, it could be legal to do so nationwide. american sports are about to be completely transformed in the process. the supreme court ruled last may the professional and amateur sports protection act violated states amendment, thus, overturning a law since 1992 prohibited sports betting in 46

states. now they are laying the ground for sports gambling. various estimates say a national gambling industry could draw anywhere from 100 fwol to 400 billion every year. joining me from a sports betting information site, darren, what happened here? i feel like i turned around and we went from the sports book at mirage to, you know, nationwide. >> yeah, michael, it happened really quickly. i think a couple years ago, it wasn't expected that the supreme court would even hear that case. then it wasn't expected that new jersey, which brought the case, would prevail. then all of a sudden in may, that happened the flood gates opened, delaware, new jersey, mississippi, and even places in the bible belt are considering sports gambling. >> so describe for me the viewing experience of the future. picture me tomorrow for the super bowl but maybe two or three years down the road, what does my screen look like?

how does the experience different? >> okay. so the trend has been over the past couple years to make the screenings cleaner. betting will change that. it will look like cnbc. essentially, mgm, william hill, caesars, all those guys will sponsor the forecast. they will tell you how people are betting. >> that will inspire you to say, well, agree or don't agree. next in 2022 and 2023, when the big rights come up, nba, nfl, this is a time where apple, huh will you, netflix the big guys, amazon will be involved. amazon is big in one click. you don't think they will go after one click gambling. apple is big in micropayments. you don't think micropayments will come in. they will try to do it on one screen where you can watch the game and bet and maybe go to the action network, where we show you, where the money is, your money is, at that exact moment?

>> i sense that data has changed a all of this. look, i ran in high school a football poll. all you had to do is pick four winners in the nfl every sunday, now, because of data. you can wager on every single play, right? isn't that what's changed? >> so that is what will be next. if you look at europe, which is obviously completely mature in its gambling, 70% of bets are in play that means from play to play. >> that has meant that it's a billion -- 2 billion, ''3 billi -- 2 become, 3 become, there could be a problem. already the nba has done three data deals. nhl has done a data deal. everyone but the nfl which, of course, is the joke as we head into this sunday the nfl is the last, because it is definitely the one that has the most money

in the game. >> how worried are you that this will be a corrupting influence on players? >> i'm a little worried about the college game. obviously, i think pro athletes make enough money so that nothing really changes. referee officials are making money that makes me comfortable. the college athletes aren't making anything. i will say this, though, with everything being tracked and regam, if there is some nefarious activity, we now know better that that's happening and so if someone cheats and an athlete does something that seems off and he is caught that will serve as a lesson for future college athletes. >> same question that i asked about legalization of weed, what becomes of my local pot dealer? in this case, what becomes of the local bookie? >> your local pot dealer is more in trouble than your local

bookie. because your local bookie. you have the same products in the dispensary and you might feel a little better about it. you have the same products with the bookie. the difference is you get credit with the bookie. draft dual wherever you are betting, once it hits 0.0, are you not betting again. the local bookie can say, you have been good to me. >> give me credit. >> i will give you 10,000, i know you are a good customer. >> final question. your favorite prop bet for tomorrow? >> i'll go the stupidest prop bet, tony romo, how many correct calls he will get, which is 7.5 over or under, the best profit for your money is ron gronkowski for mv vp. i think it's his last game. he hasn't been playing that well. you can get >> right.

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