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that justice. already the eu and the u.s. have decried the suspension of the chief justice and the main opposition party temporarily suspended its campaign in protest. thanks to all of you for being part of my program this week. i will see you next week. i'm brian stelter. this is reliable sources. our look at the stories behind the stories. how the news gets made and how all of us can help make it better. this hour, breaking news from president trump's super bowl sunday interview. plus, howard schultz, his book tour left a bitter taste. howard dean will weigh in on that. >> and an interview we'll only see here, with alexandria ocasio-cortez's chief of staff. all of that coming up. first, a weekend of contrasting news cycles for the democratic party. on one stream, virginia governor
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ralph northam holding on while the entire party practically tells him to let g on the other stream, more and more democrats entering the race. and what we're hearing, historically diverse. and that's accurate. so race, power, the past, the present, the future all captured in these two stories. but i want to reverse the order. let take this chronologically. think back to friday morning. start of black history month. purposely the timing for cory booker's campaign launch. with booker now seen by online video, radio and tv interviews, confirming suspected candidates now include five women, two african-americans, one hispanic man. there are numerous other historic firsts in this field. booker's announcement was friday's biggest story until again on the first day of black history month the northam
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yearbook photo was revealed and suddenly the news cycle changed and northam has remained the top story ever since. i would argue was mostly overshadowed by the news involving northam. let's talk about these contrasting stories and what they mean. the media critic for the baltimore sun, april somers and ruby kramer. i want to get into a number of stories about the democratic field. first, this idea, david, that we are talking about a number of history-making candidates, it is incredible to see the number of women running, number of people of color running and yet i feel this is being taken for granted. should we, in the press, be talking more about the historic nature of this early primary season? >> yeah.
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brian, i think not only should we be talking about it, i think if we feel that way, we should be celebrating it. this diversity, all of these different voices are going to make this conversation of democracy in this election much, much stronger. so, it's really important to do this and listen to all these voices, not just dismiss them and say the poll numbers, i'm not going to listen to you. we can't get lost in that historic part of it. we have to ultimately focus on the policy. it's not enough to have new voices in the mix. those voices also have to have new ideas and we have to judge those. we are never very good about dealing with policy in these races. none of us. but in this one, it's legitimate to focus on the diversity. certainly right now. and to applaud it and to explore it culturally.
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what does it say about us today as a nation? i think it says very good things. yeah. >> that's what i want to make sure the pspotlight remains on this subject. i agree with you. i'm going to try to spend the next two years, dragging us all back to policy, as i'm sure many editors and newsroom leaders are. what's your reaction to what david says? >> absolutely. one thing i find so interesting about covering this historically diverse group of democrats, as opposed to past election cycles you're seeing so many different ways of what an american democratic president can look like, women, people of color, representation of lgbtq. as we talk about and cover and discuss this historically diverse set of democrats running for president, a lot of that coverage is being driven by newsrooms that do not necessarily reflect the diversity we see in this field and see in this country. as i'm thinking about my
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coverage and talking to peers around the field, we have to be deliberate in our work and think critically about how we make sure our coverage does not reflect and what it means and these cultures we're covering and making sure that's reflective of that. >> you're absolutely right. national newsrooms, according to survey after survey, are lagging behind the country in terms of representing the country's diversity. in a number of ways, whether it's the number of women in newsroom leadership positions or number of people in color in leadership positions, et cetera. let me ask about cory booker's role. he came out friday morning in an interesting way, ruby, and you were part of this. a lot of newsrooms, including buzz feed and ap, they knew about his announcement under the embargo and it lifted 7:00 a.m. eastern time friday. tell me how that worked. >> sure. an embargo is basically an agreement between the reporter and the campaign where they say we are going to have some news
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for you. will you agree to this embargo? you make a choice as a newsroom to say yes, we will. they'll send information over with the understanding that it won't be published until the agreed-upon time. that's a mutual agreement between the reporter and the campaign. kristin gillibrand did a similar situation with the national press. >> it seemed it worked from a campaign strategy perspective. he was able to dominate friday morning's news cycle. >> he was. although, i think there was a little bit of frustration inside the booker campaign. frustration may not be exactly the right word but what happened with governor northam certainly stepped on that announcement. >> right. >> pretty much from the afternoon on. >> right. it absolutely did. and it's dominated the news cycle ever since. is that partly because, look, ralph northam is a very big story. i'm shocked he hasn't stepped down yet. is it partly such a big story and leading all the news networks because there isn't
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anything else big going on? am i describing that accurately there? >> i think that's certainly part of it. and the other part is that this is a story taking place in virginia, a critical state. it's also a story that every one of these potential candidates and declared candidates were forced to respond. as you pointed out, rightly so, this is an historically diverse cast of candidates. we spent our friday nights saying how are these candidates going to respond? former san antonio coming out very quickly, kamala harris coming out quickly. others not saying anything until the following day. there were moments as to how this field would answer to these and the answer was a resounding, he's got to go. >> right. absolutely. one more question about the 2020 field before we talk more about northam in the next segment, ruby, the next big announcement we're expecting is from elizabeth warren later this
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week. it seems she'll be officially entering the race. what does it tell us about 2019 and about politics that there are so many women running on the democratic side and, you know, it's just taken for granted in a way? i don't see as many news stories about what it means for women to be running anymore because hillary clinton did blaze that particular trail. >> elizabeth warren is the first major candidate to get in the race, announcing her candidacy on new year's eve. when she made her way to iowa as a 2020 candidate and expected to launch her campaign for real, so to speak, next weekend. but when she first got into the race, her first trip to iowa, a bunch of reporters asked her what does it mean to you to be running as a woman and she immediately sort of pivoted back to what was the central message of that trip, which was i'm not a career politician. i didn't get in this race because, you know, i live in
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washington, part of the washington establishment that's expected to run. i'm in this fight because i've been fighting for working class families before i was a senator, i was a bankruptcy expert. i found it interesting the way she answered that question because she didn't engage on it at all. i think she will more and more. clearly, she wanted to drive that message during her first trip. but even if it doesn't mean something to the candidates necessarily, something they don't want to highlight, it means something to so many people. >> exactly. >> i think it will be very interesting to see how she sort of bridges that going forward. >> right. that's what i'm curious about as well. it means so much to so many people who are going to be watching this coverage, to have so many women running, to have so many african-americans and hispanics running. it is a monumental change in our policy. to david's original point, there will be stories that will need to explore that.
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but policy still has to stay front and center. ruby, thank you. what the heck happened at that ralph northam press conference and why reporters didn't find his yearbook before now. much more in a moment. absolutely not paying r card, bm an annual fee. discover has no annual fees. really? yeah. we just don't believe in them. oh nice. you would not believe how long i've been rehearsing that. no annual fee on any card. only from discover.
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it was a tip from a concerned citizen, that's what led them to publish this photo from ralph northam's medical school yearbook. regardless of what website published it first, it was important news. scrambling to see if it was legit. and it was. confirming that the photo was real. and many journalists figured that north kls am would resign by now. take a look at the front page of the newspaper in richmond times dispatch. on the left you see the saturday coverage saying he was sorry for the photo and on today, sunday's coverage saying maybe it wasn't me. what is going on? april summers is back with me and we're joined with david as well as howard dean. governor dean, since you've been in this position as a governor
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of a state and you were the chair of the dnc, what is your position? what should northam do? >> first of all, i've never been in this position. i was governor but -- >> i said governor of a state. i apologize. >> look, okay, i don't know ralph northam. i believe he's a decent person but i think he has to resign. i don't see -- he just can't be effective as a governor after something like this. the interesting thing about this, there's some -- the ground has shifted under people's feet. they're not going to put up with this kind of stuff anymore. maybe they would have put up with it in the past but they're not going to put up with it now. >> i noticed you retweeted obama era health care administrator, he wrote this on twitter. if you have repeatedly said president obama was born in africa, you should resign. the point here is clear acres remark about president trump's own racist history. do you see a double standard at
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play, howard? >> sure there is, on the republicans. you know, they have no morals at all. i mean, republicans are happy to ask ralph northam to resign. they have a much worse guy heading their party. it's ridiculous. this is not -- this is very similar to the kavanaugh appointment, who got appointed with nothing but republican votes. they don't care about this kind of stuff because their base doesn't care about this kind of stuff. >> i think if there was a photo of kavanaugh looking like this, it would have been different. i'll leave it at that. >> might have been. >> the obvious question here, how was this yearbook missed by the media for decades? >> it's an interesting question. it's a fair question. i think it's safe to say that it's open season on yearbooks now, no matter what you're running for. i personally was quite surprised that a med school had a yearbook. who knew? but it not only, for reporters,
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you would figure researchers would have turned this up and yet it stayed dormant. it's a reminder that we need to go back to the library. we need to go back to these primary sources that may not be on the internet when you're betting these candidates. it's a good reminder going into 2020, that's for sure. >> this is a media story that shouldn't be a media story. yes, it came from a far right-wing website. the photo is real so it doesn't matter that it came from a tip from a concerned sith citizen. that's what the website told the washington post. >> it absolutely doesn't matter. this is information that is pertinent to virginia voters, to whether or not governor northam is fit to lead his state. the other thing this highlighted, if you look at that press conference yesterday, the governor also admitted he says now that he's not the person who appeared in that photo. he doesn't know who is. he also admitted that he, at
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another point, had been in public in black face for a talent show when he portrayed michael jackson. no matter what the source of this information that's coming out, it is giving voters relevant information to report. i think that's only a good thing. >> a good thing. let's pivot to another big story of the week and i want to get your take on this. howard schultz's book tour, flirtation with a presidential run. a lot of the criticism of him, especially coming from the left. howard, what's your view of what schultz is doing? >> i think it's an advantage to the candidacy. i think he has done some good things in his life. this is a fool's errand. i blame -- one of the guys i like who is working for him, i blame steven schmidt a little bit. no way he will run the presidency running as an independent. the only way thing he can do ise the election to president trump
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by peeling off democratic votes. i happen to believe the next president of the united states is going to be a billionaire. it's gone on too long. and so he has no shot as an independent and this appears to be a vanity candidacy, and he doesn't really have a lot to say either. >> look at the amazon rankings. a. amazon rankings for his book, it comes on tuesday. it's barely in the top 100. there does not seem to be a lot of interest from the public in going out there and buying what schultz is literally selling. i wonder if that's an indication for him going forward. there were a lot of great interviews with schultz this week. on an individual level, a lot of great interviews. collectively, did the national news media give him too much attention? >> perhaps. perhaps. and he was putting himself out there quite a bit. the other way to look at this on terms of his seriousness as a candidate is he doesn't seem to have a plan.
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there was news that he's going to start going to the early states. i hope one of these consultants told him he doesn't have a primary as an independent candidate. it really is -- and who is calling for, to governor dean's point, who is his constituency? who is calling for this candidacy? that's something that, you know, we should look at in terms of coverage as we go forward in this race. >> last word to you. are journalists sometimes infatuated by billionaire candidates for some reason? >> i think that could be a fair point. i was thinking about howard schultz. i'm reminded of something that another billionaire told me when he was considering. he told me the presidential race is where the conversation about future america is and i think that there are many different ways to play a role in that conversation and it's clear that howard saddam hussein schultz has something to say that he
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wants to inject and is choosing to do it in this manner, it seems. >> i want to ask howard about that as well. we're exactly one year to the day from the iowa caucuses. do you have a sense, howard, a prediction about what the field is going to look like a year from now? i have a feeling that some of the folks saying they're going to run will not actually be there in a year. >> that's absolutely true. if howard schultz has no platform until after the primary is over, this is insane to try to do this. as far as our field, i fully expect somewhere north of 15 candidates. i don't think most of them will make it to the starting line because you have to raise a lot of money and you can't raise money in the democratic party by taking huge amounts of money from a political action committee. voters are foorious about the corruption in trump's administration so they can't raise money on the internet. they can't really run. so i expect after iowa and
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nevada, new hampshire and south carolina, which is the first four states, we'll probably see absolutely no more than five candidates heading into california. >> and if you have one bit of advice for covering the 2020 field, obviously you come from a position here, a liberal position, what do you want to see the press do to hold these candidates accountable? >> do a better job than you did against hillary clinton. don't make up news. >> make up news? >> come on. >> what news was made up, howard? >> the news, for example, of the canadian nickel mine that was supposedly being pushed by the russians when they inverted the timeframe and never corrected it. there's a long list. >> i heard jackie interrupting. what was your reaction to that? >> i just -- i mean, we covered hillary clinton fairly and thoroughly. i can only speak for the daily beast but, you know, i think there's a lot of unfair criticism, frankly, that comes from the left, and the right
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when it comes to the trump and hillary clinton coverage. there's a lot of, you know, introspection that did go on about that race but sometimes i think the criticism is unfair zblaes still a lot of raur rau feelings, that's for sure, about how 2016 was covered and that is for real. >> everybody, thank you so much for being here. i really appreciate it. quick break and then an exclusive interview with alexandria ocasio-cortez, inside -- her top aide, chief of staff. you won't want to miss it. ♪ did you know you can save money by using dish soap to clean grease on more than dishes? try dawn ultra. dawn is for more than just dishes. with 3x more grease cleaning power per drop, it tackles tough grease on a variety of surfaces. try dawn ultra.
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there's no doubt about it. alexandria ocasio-cortez or aoc for short, has twitter power, more than president trump, according to this data public belished. she is all over instagram as well, using instagram, sometimes live videos on instagram to chat with voters, have conversations. they answer questions and she's also using that let's talk about it with the chief of staff to aoc, joining me now from washington. i'm curious about what your last month has been, working with her as a freshman congresswoman. how would you describe the first month? >> oh, i mean, it's a whirlwind, i guess. we didn't expect to show up into
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a government shutdown. that sort of threw everything off the rails, right? it is exciting. like alexandria and the team that came in with her, we worked on the campaign. it's great that she would be here and put forth big ideas that she campaigned on into the halls of power. as you know, fox talks about aoc more than they talk about anyone on planet earth. there was a headline the other day who says she doesn't think aoc is accessible in real life. maybe online life but not real life. how are you trying to translate her twitter audience into policy and making change? >> she changed the entire idea bait in a matter of days, green
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new deal. it's trying to say that twitter power is not real-life power is like trying to say that someone going on tv, making a case or bernie sanders talking about medicare for all is not real power, somehow that does not translate into real life. these are real politics she's pushing on twitter. >> you mentioned taxes. that's the "60 minutes" interview. >> yes. >> sitting down with her in early january, talked about a 70% tax on the tenth million dollar. i agree with you, she has changed the tax debate. how strategic was that on your part? >> the way that alexandria uses social media -- one thing she's able to do, she's able to do things quickly and pierce the veil on things that people
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already agree with. overall americans want taxes on the rich and what she does on social media, she says these things that people are too afraid to say. all of a sudden it creates a moment because she's not -- having 70% tax base isn't a new idea. we had this in the '60s. it's been bubbling at the surface. she's been able to use her platform and give it voits and turn it into an actual policy and political debate. and the thing that she really does is incredible on social media, she educates, right? the reason democrats have been scared about raising tax on the rich they're afraid they won't be able to educate the public on what marginal tax rates are. alexandria just did that. she took the republicans' att k attack, basically showed how the republicans have been making a bad faith argument on taxes for years by claiming somehow a 70% marginal tax rate will affect the working class.
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she said no, that's not true. we're just talking about your 10 millionth dollar here. that's the real piece. everyone talks about she's good at social media. she's good about communicating and translating how these very complex policies work. >> i noticed that some trump fans have compared him in favorable terms to ocasio-cortez, complimenting her social media prowess and her social media prowess. i asked if there was anything trumpian about her social media. she replied on twitter, i think we use social media very differently, she compared to trump. what's your view? how do you see it? >> i think that's absolutely true. i think trump uses social media as a way to get to people's common denominator. he uses it to incite fear. he starts rhyming wall with fall and becomes a dr. seuss of social media. alexandria is using social media
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to explain complex policy ideas and try to build a movement around real solutions and she engages in discourse with the people who are talking to her on social media. just because, you know -- i'll grant that trump has been effective on social media and she has been effective on social media. that's like saying because they've been effective on tv they have the same tactics and that's not true. >> this headline might have made you smile. why trump's super fans dig aoc. matt gates was voted as saying i inspire to be the conservative aoc. what's your reaction? any advice for them? >> i mean, you know, same advice she would probably give, like be yourself and try to stay above the fray. to actually talk about policy and have a real debate. and that's what she's trying to do. she's taking big ideas and bold ideas, things that are sweeping ideas and putting them at the forefront. if you don't have the content, social media is not going to help you. >> i noticed my colleague making the point the other day that aoc
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has a symbiotic relationship with her critics. they dump on her, she dumps back on them. do you and her talk about how to handle fox news, whether to go on fox news, for example? >> look, she's got an incredible, i think, ability to figure out when to engage with conservative critics and she does it every time that she can advance the conversation on some sort of topic, right? so what she'll often do, we saw the 70% marginal tax rate. we saw it with the way that fox and a lot of conservative media outlets were trying to focus on her looks and on her style of clothing. she uses those moments to try to reveal a larger bias and a larger systemic problem in conservative media. so she doesn't just, you know -- every time she dunks she'll try to bring the conversation about something that's systemically wrong or systemically a problem. >> so there's strategy. >> yeah.
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>> that's what i've seen but i was curious for your perspective. thank you for being on. >> sure. thank you. coming up on "reliable sources," president trump says he's a defender of the free press. really? he said that? we'll talk about his recent interviews and why they've gone into overtime, right after this.
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greatest defenders of the free press and -- >> i want to be. i want to be. >> well, every day is a new chance, i guess, for the president to be a defender of the free press. his media critiques are predictable at this point. you can read some here from the "times" interview. but to the point in the "times" interview over and over again, he's doing a great job, deserves better coverage. that comes through in the cbs interview as well. let's talk about it with david zoerlich from the baltimore sun, back with me now. we know this is twisted but it is remarkable to see the "times" publisher trying to get through to trump about these media dangers. >> that's the most important thing about this interview. i mean, the questions were very good. really good reporters. trump was a great reflector as chris cuomo once called him.
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you can't pin him down. "the times" ran a piece the next day. they had a piece that near the end said it's very hard to pin him down. but you put your finger on the thing about this interview is the actions about the publisher, soelzberger. trump wanted to go to dinner with him to talk off the record. and he said no. >> he said no. >> yes. this is a great model for every publisher in america. because you know every night of the week, somebody who doesn't like something in a newspaper is asking a publisher to go to dinner with him and talk off the record. this says no, let's do it publicly. and it's really smart business because he gets all the traffic for the website by having this interview that day. but more importantly, in a moral sense for the press, we get to see him publicly confronting. and he did it in a politic,
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respectful way for the office of the presidency, confronting trump about what he has been saying about the press and the problems it is causing for a free press and for democracy. you know, i'm not -- god bless soelzberger for what he did, most important thing about this interview. >> four times trump says i'm entitled to one good story in the "new york times" because i grew up in new york. and at the very end he tells his aides when they call -- maggie haberman, let me speak to them. also interesting. let's look at this morning's interview, president trump sitting down with cbs' margaret brennan. watch how trump says excuse me when he feels like he's being challenged by brennan. >> this surprised you about some of the questions that robert mueller asked you. >> well, look, the russia thing is a hoax. i have been tougher on russia than any president, maybe ever, but than any president. >> so when it comes to the investigation that the special counsel is conducting, 34 people
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have been charged here. >> excuse me. are you ready? okay. are you ready? of the 34 people, many of them were bloggers from moscow or people that had nothing to do with me, had nothing to do with what they're talking about, or they were people that got caught telling a fib or telling a lie. >> i always love seeing the president faced with the facts. when a journalist tells them the truth, makes him wrestle with the truth. you see the response there, excuse me, excuse me. he doesn't want to have to hear it. let's look ahead, david, to the state of the union. it is finally on tuesday night. and fact checking is going to be a real issue here. the president has been much more deceptive in year two than year one. his lying is getting a lot worse. do you think broadcasters have to get better about fact checking in exchanges or after speeches? >> brian, i think cable is ahead of broadcast news, not surprisingly. and i think fact checking has been better. and i know from talking to people who are involved in it, they're busting their behinds
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trying to do it. they're busting their brains trying to figure out better ways. you can see it on the screen, it is getting better. here is the thing about the state of the union that i think is going to be great. you know you and i both know, visuals matter more than anything else on television. more than anything, he is going to say, unless he calls a national emergency or something like that. the image of nancy pelosi standing behind him, over him, literally, with that gavel. >> right. >> i don't know how he's going to deal with that. and you know -- you've got to believe he's not going to stand there after she denied him and made him only come on her terms to that chamber. that visual is going to speak volumes. i think especially to women in this country, who felt -- who feel, rightfully, i think, that president trump has not been especially sensitive to women's issues. having her in that position of power. >> there's a lot more to get to, including the intel chiefs, how
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they're contradicting trump on everything. i want to ask you about something positive before you go. you reviewed the new mister rogers documentary. it is premiering on television on hbo and pbs. what is the lesson from mr. rogers in this day and age? >> i did it for an escape from politics for one week. i swear! i talked to my editor, i said let's take a break. when i watched it, i realized how incredibly unneighborly this country had become. and i realized that mr. rogers was, in many ways, the anti-thesis of president trump. he's modest, spiritual. he's quiet. he's empathetic. i won't give you the adjectives for trump. we all know what those are. it's a different version of masculinity that he offers to america. you know, on super bowl sunday where it's all 150 trucks,
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alcohol and big guys -- i'm not saying mr. rogers is the only version of masculinity, but i think it's time in this country. that's why this documentary that airs saturday night is so important. why it did $22 million at the box office in release last year. >> that's unbelievable. >> huge for documentaries. it's called "won't you be my neighbor." s it is wonderful. thanks for giving us a preview. >> thank you, brian. state of the union is finally here. it is president trump's biggest audience of the year. it will be his biggest ratings event of the year. special live coverage starts here tuesday night 8:00 p.m. eastern time on cnn. up next a writer and editor who say that their reputation has been dented. ♪
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is there any room left for critical coverage of president trump on the right? the weekly standard recently shut down on friday there were reports about two washington examiner reporters leaving for unsavory anti'trump sentiment. a red state editor issued a call for consistency saying they were quitting because they felt -- let's have them explain it in their own words. we're working on andrea's signal. kimberly, let me go to you first. what went wrong at red state? >> we had been there for a while and it had just been declining since trump ascended to the white house throne in 2016. in april of last year there was what we call a purge. one of the editors and many writers who were trump critics
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were let go without warning and. since then we have noticed more of a decline toward pushing back against those who are critical of trump in any way. we decided to leave. we wanted to make a clear statement. that is why we wrote this piece. >> you describe this as a purge that happened. is this room left on the right for tough accountability journalism about the president? >> i think that is exactly what people are wanting and needing cht conservative media's role is to call out the other side's bad ideas and keep our own side honest. when you are dealing with a side and especially trump who has definite issues with the truth i think you absolutely have a place in conservative media for being critical of republicans.
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>> is there an audience for that? if there was more of an audience wouldn't there be more of a vibrant system for that? >> i guess i can't go into details of numbers and things like that. i think what red state fell into particularly was quick beat journalism. in my experience at least i think there seems to be room for that. with facebook and twitter we are still deal ing with this landscape and trying to figure it out. >> salem media is the owner of red state. have you heard anything from them since resigning publically? >> we have seen background on social media about how we shouldn't have maybe done what we did and we are traitors and sellouts y. have no regrets and i don't think andrea does, either. i think we need to push for more
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consistency in conservative media. >> your piece is up where you can read the full open letter. thank you for being here. i appreciate it. >> thank you. >> it's an ongoing issue, an interesting issue about the state of conservative media. a break here and then a preview for tonight's big game. there's brushing...and there's oral-b power brushing. oral-b just cleans better. even my hygienist said going electric could lead to way cleaner teeth.
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virginia's democratic governor ralph northam defies calls to resign. saying a racist yearbook photo is not of him after all. >> i am not the person in that photo. >> can he keep his job? former virginia governor terry mcauliffe joins us exclusively. plus -- deal or no deal? just before his state of the union address, president trump teases he's ready to flex his executive muscle to get his border wall. >> we will be looking at a national emergency. >> where does that leave congressional negotiations? >> have to give and take. i've told the president that. >> top senate negotiator senator richard shelby responds, next. and -- left turn? democratic presidential hopefuls tout progressive policies. >> we need to have medicare for all. >> medicare for all. >> but not all democrats think those plans are realistic. hello.
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i'm jake tapper in washington where the state of our union is shaking our heads.