kate. >> a tall order but he has a big opportunity tonight. vanessa, great to see you. thank you so much. do not forget, folks, tonight a special cnn presidential town hall with howard schultz in houston. poppy harlow is moderating. tonight, 10:00 p.m. thanks for joining me. "inside politics" with john king starts right now. thank you, kate, and welcome to "inside politics." i'm john king. it's a busy new day. thank you for sharing it with us. yes or no, congress asked to boost wall funding money and keep the government open. no word is whether he'll sign it. a tax on the new green deal which he labels socialist democrats. but did the choice of el paso also give the potential rival a

giant opportunity? speaking of 2020, astronaut mark kelly launches a senate bid in arizona. once red, kelly out to prove that arizona is trending blue. >> it becomes pretty obvious pretty early when you get into space that we're all kind of in this together. >> back to that race in a little bit. we begin here in washington waiting on the president to give us a thumbs up, thumbs down or maybe something in between. the president at a cabinet meeting at the white house right now. we expect to see tape from that meeting any minute and get a congressional deal on an agreement the legislators met on last night. 1.375 billion is way less than what the president demanded back in the summer. the democrats hope to convince the president he got enough, and

the compromise is not even. >> in order to reach an agreement, our democratic colleagues would have to walk away from two extreme positions that had been dictated to them presumably by the far left. fortunately, our democratic colleagues did abandon those unreasonable positions. >> but those who talked and tweelt tweeted the president into the shutdown last time are unhappy again. >> this so-called compromise, i'm getting details. 1.3 billion? that's not even a wall, a barrier? i'm going to tell this tonight and we'll get back into this tomorrow. any republican that supports this garbage compromise, you'll have to explain. >> cnn's abby phillip live at the white house. abby, the president is in this meeting. is he going to accept the hannity "it's garbage" or the mick mulvaney "it's reasonable."

this border agreement reached on the hill, so far nothing, but it's been interesting this morning trying to see the white house give president trump more space to decide where he stands on this bill. the principal secretary hogan gidley told reporters around 10:00 a.m. that they had not yet seen the details of the agreement and they were going to look at it closely with a fine-toothed comb to see what kind of stipulations are in the agreement in terms of how the money can be spent and where, those kinds of details that have stalled the talks over the weekend. but even as the white house is looking over the paper of the agreement, they're also looking at how it's playing in conservative media. one of the big factors is whether brupresident trump can e away with this feeling like he got something, so it's not clear

how this will sit with ann coulter or whoever. the president is sensitive to those kinds of things, and this agreement gives him less than he would have gotten more than a month ago in which the house passed and he rejected. so he's going into this perhaps losing a little bit on this border fight, and also at the same time, the white house continues to say he is considering using executive action to perhaps build a wall without congress, but that would make available to him less money than he had hoped to be appropriated by lawmakers, but it might allow him to save face and say even though congress isn't doing what he would like them to do, he's going to do it, anyway, through executive action, john. >> abby, stay close. we could get information any moment. julie pace with the associated press, cnn's phil mattingly, jackie kosinich with the daily

beast. most of the president's team saying you have to sign this. we cannot go through another government shutdown. we'll debate executive action. we know who he listened to last time, and abby says they're trying to give the president some space. there's a lot of nuance in garbage. if you look at breitbart, they think it's a bad deal. >> it's a great question. i'm following my own notes from the room as well, and i think this depends on how much of a hit the president is willing to take for his base. he's not going to be able to convince everyone on fox, everyone on his voting block that this is a good deal, because there is no way around the fact he's not going to get as much money for the wall as he had hoped to get. he put up the possibility of an emergency declaration. the white house talked about other action to try to move some money around. i do think one of the things you'll see him do is try to make a political argument here to

say, because he's looking at his reelection campaign, look, i can't get this through congress here, so you need to put me back. the only way we'll get anywhere is if you send me back to a republican congress. there is a bit of a positive for him on the message inside, but no doubt he's not going to get anything he wants out of this congress. >> the president won't like this because he fancies himself the art of the deal president. but one argument might be if you shut down the government again, you might get even less. here's the deal the president turned down when he shut down the government. $1.6 billion for 65 miles of wall. the president then said he wanted 5.7 billion for 200 miles of wall. then he could bet 1.375 billion for 55 miles. he turned down the last deal and

he got less. why? >> house democrats now control members of congress, and that changes how negotiations work. there is a reason why $1.375 billion was the maximum republicans could get. it just depends on how the president looks at this and how his staff presents it to him. on detention beds, which have become an enormous issue and has been a very divisive issue between the two parties for years and definitely in the last couple of months, you can see they made some headway than they thought they were going to get. interior enforcement, which for immigration hawks is a much bigger issue for them than the bordered wall, but for him that's a win, he has to go along. and he has to keep in mind that republicans are not with him like they were over the summer. you can't state just how over it everyone is. they want to move on. house democrats have an agenda,

they want to move on. house republicans, they want to move on. the president's backing on capitol hill is nowhere as solid, if solid at all, as it was in december. i think that's pushing toward saying yes to this, but it just kind of depends. >> you can spin it as a win. you're not getting your $5.6 billion, but nancy pelosi says not $1, you're getting some. if you want to keep your party, logic says it's an old-fashioned logical compromise, sign it. does logic apply to this white house? >> sometimes. it depends on who he's going to listen to, because you already have some republicans that he does tend to listen to, someone like a mark meadows who is very in line with sean hannity, this is garbage, if he listens to him, it depends on if his advisers can convince him that's not practical advice at this point. if you look at the chart you

just put up, it's moving in the wrong direction for the president and it's not going to go back up. that is not the reality that is in this congress right now. >> and on that point, i asked abby phillip to stand by because we're getting informations what the president is saying in that room. abby phillip at the white house, what are we learning? >> a couple meninutes ago he ma his first statement on the agreement. he said, i can't say i'm happy, but he added the wall is going to get built, anyway. according to reporters in the room, he called the democrats obstructionists for standing in his way. as you know, john, this is an agreement made between republicans and democrats. you heard mitch mcconnell say not too long ago that they actually backed off from where they were over the weekend. the president is saying he's not thrilled about it. he's implying the wall is going to get built, anyway. what that means remains to be seen, but this is still ongoing. we'll hear more from the

president shortly once that tape comes out and the reporters come out of that room, john. >> abby, don't go far. that's one of the challenges for this president. the president said he's not happy. the wall is going to get built, anyway. you could read that as he's going to sign this and say, it's not enough but i'm not shutting down the government again. here's a down payment. i'm going to look and find some other money, possibly national emergency and other executive action. they'll find national engineer corps money and perhaps build the wall. but he takes on us a roller coaster as to what he says and what he means. >> i'm sure he's wautching tv just like the rest of us, like the last shutdown. you had people talking about not being able to pay their bills and put food on the table. that's when the democrats go in armed with their constituencies saying, these everyday common

americans were struggling. people like diana presley wrote legislation saying the federal contract workers weren't guaranteed back pay, they should receive restitution. this is a congresswoman from a liberal city in boston, but that stuff plays in other parts of the country like iowa. so i think for democrats to come away being the face of this restoration is not necessarily a good thing. >> that's the part that's wrestling with this president. does he listen to the hard line immigration which is mostly here in washington, or does he list ton his own poll. he can sell some of this in his own swing districts, but democrats have the upper hand there. we're going to take a quick break. the president talking to congressmen. president trump back on the campaign trail. not that you ever thought he

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verdict on the accused drug lord, "el chapo" guzman. brynn, they've been negotiating for some time. what's the verdict? >> reporter: they've been deliberating for over 30 hours. last week, yesterday into today, we know there are ten counts they are considering for the man who allegedly ran in the mexican drug cartel for two decades, "el chapo," which has really garnered national/international attention. people as far as california have come here just to be in the courtroom as the man, the myth, the legend, as some people have really referred to him as, but of course he's facing serious counts here, including drug making, distribution, running a criminal enterprise, as well as murder, conspiracy, so there is a number of charges that the jurors have been considering for the last week into this week. and we're just waiting to hear what they have come up with.

now, let's keep in mind, no matter what this verdict is, he is facing other charges and other jurisdictions across the united states, so we're waiting to see if he's going to stay here in new york, and if the verdict is guilty on one or all charges, or if he'll move to another jurisdiction after this based on what these jurors decide. we'll have more in a little bit, but certainly standing by for that verdict, john. >> you're in federal court so there's no cameras. that's why we're doing it this way, we can't show you in there. the jury deliberated over the course of the last four days. he wi "el chapo" was hugging his lawyers thinking that as long as the verdict is taken, it's good news. that's not necessarily the case but that's his hope. >> reporter: he's been making eye contact with his wife who has been here every single day,

including last week for the jury deliberations. yeah, there has been some speculation, why has this been taking so long? but this case was monstrous. the government put forward a case that was ten weeks long. it had a number of government wnt witnesses, some who were alleged associates of he will ch"el cha who cut deals with the government. the jury had to decide if their testimony was credible. there were witnesses that were incredibly dramatic on the stand, including "el chapo's" mistress, there was video, there was wire tapping. this case was just enormous for these jurors to consider, and that's one of the reasons it's likely this is taking so long. they had to consider all of these charges and then just the verdict sheet alone was eight pages long. it took hours for the judge to read to jurors before they actually began their

deliberations. so there was quite a lot to consider here, so i imagine when we do get this verdict, it's going to be just as complex as it was for the deliberations, john. >> and we wait to get word from the court. as you mentioned, 2,000 hours of testimony. t >> reporter: for the last two months, jurors have listened to tales of bribe and bloodshed. her testimony about notorious cartel boss "el chapo" guzman, and saw rare images of the drug lord with his jewel-encrusted pistol by his side. she talked about how he smuggled drugs through cans of sardines, even bananas.

testimony included explosive testimony from cartel member alex fuentes. he talked about his boss' bribes. he once paid former mexican president peno neito in 2012. neito called the accusations absurd, noting that it was he who extradited guzman to the united states for trial. christian rodriguez, whose photo is here, was told to hide his identity. he used spyware to capture conversations with members of guzman's criminal organization. guzman is facing multiple counts, including firearm and drug trafficking charges and faces life in prison. though the list of charges does

not include murder, testimony took a graphic turn when esias valdez was called to the stand. the former security guard turned pilot recalled when guzman was involved in the gruesome murder of three rivals. pata ramirez also called to testify in court, stating he worked with guzman in the early '90s. he went on to work with guzman for 18 years. he was so hotly pursued by authorities that he underwent several plastic surgeries to try to evade capture. one constant fixture in the courtroom has been guzman's wife for more than ten years, former beauty queen emma cornell. emma helped her husband escape from a mexican prison in 2015, according to prison guard turned associate. she has not been charged with allegations at this time, and her lawyer had no comment on

those allegations. prosecutors showed pictures of the tunnel that he used to plan his escape. it was a mile long, complete with motorcycle tracks said to be used by "el chapo" for his path to freedom. some other breaking news, the president talking to the white house as we speak, saying he's not happy with the deal brokered in congress to prevent another government shutdown. he has not said if he'll sign it. he doesn't want a government shutdown but he says he's not happy. we'll be right back. its for my future. annuities can provide protected income for life. learn more at retire your risk dot org. we know that when you're spending time with the grandkids every minute counts. and you don't have time for a cracked windshield. that's why we show you exactly when we'll be there. saving you time, so you can keep saving the world.

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welcome back. two major breaking news stories we're tracking. number one, we're waiting for a jury that says they've reached a verdict for drug lord "el chapo." in washington, reporters have

just left a cabinet meeting with the president. congressmen brokered a deal trying to avoid another government shutdown by beefing up authority. it falls short of what the president wanted for his border wall. the president saying, i'm not happy about it. it's not doing the trick. he's adding things to it. i'm going to ask my expert abby how that would work in a moment here. i don't think you'll see a shutdown. if you didn't have it, it's the government's fault, but the wall is getting built regardless. it sounds like he doesn't want a shutdown, but if he dit did hap it's the democrats' fault. >> i'm not sure he's going to sign it. he says, there is no good that

comes from a shutdown, but i do think he's going to create anxiety on capitol hill within his own party about the fact he's not given a clear answer whether he's going to sign. >> to that point, they very much need him to say yes so they can put it in legislative text, or if it's no, i don't know what happens next. >> the practicality of what he said is vote issues. they will not get house republicans to support this if the president is not behind it. they might get appropriaters, maybe some folks in leadership, but since the president has the he's opposed to it, they lose voters. there are issues in this agreement that democrats, particularly progressives on the left that have issues with i.c.e., you need i.c.e. to get enough votes. can he add things to it? if he decides they need to go

back to the table, there will be a government shutdown, period, end of story. they just don't have the time before friday to go back to the table, and frankly, the idea they would reopen a deal they worked so hard to reach and was so arduous for both sides, and all they can hope is that he'll sign it. i think that's the best case of what you see right now, but they're running into vote problems if he keeps talking like this. >> he keeps talking about republican votes. there are some progressives because it gives them more money for detention beds, it gives them some money for barriers. they don't want any money for barriers so there is math on both sides. >> part of the reason he's v vascillating a little bit is to

see if he can get more money. >> sorry to interrupt. the president of the united states. >> president, will you sign the border deal? >> i'm not happy about it, it's not enough, it's not doing the trick. but i'll add some to it. it's all going to happen where we build a big, strong wall that's not going to let criminals and traffickers and drug dealers into our country. it's very simple. we're building a wall. and now i'm saying we're finishing a wall. we just started a big, big section on the rio grande. you probably saw it. some of you were there when they started. you didn't believe it. you went there, you saw trucks all over the place, and you say, he's not kidding. i never kid about construction. i love construction, and i know how to do it for the right price. we're getting a beautiful look in structure that's also less expensive to build and works

much better. that's a good combination of events. it was crazy what they were putting up. i happen to think the walls they were building were so unattractive and so ugly that walls got bad names, okay, if that means anything. they were so ugly with rusted steel and big ugly plates on top that are all tin canned, it's called tin canned where they're waving because the heat makes them expand and contract, and they tin can. i said, why don't you paint the steel? sir, we're saving money. yes, but it's going to rust. i've never in my whole life seen steel that was unpainted. this could only happen at the border. it wasn't me, it was our past geniuses. i can tell you that, am i happy at first glance, i just got to see it? the answer is no, i'm not. i'm not happy. but am i happy with where we're

going? i'm thrilled. because we're supplementing things and moving things around and we're doing things that are fantastic, and taking from far less areas. the bottom line is we're building a wall. you think it's easy? we're building in the face of tremendous obstruction and tremendous opposition from a small group of people. one thing could happen that i think was very revealing. we had the biggest and best border agents and experts come up and see the committee. and they said, more than anything else, you need a barrier, you need a wall. and the recommendation was unacceptable to the committee. so that tells you more than anything else. >> are we going to see a shutdown? >> i don't think you'll see a shutdown. if you did have it, it's the

democrats' fault. i accepted the first one and i'm proud of what we've accomplished, because people learned during that shutdown all about the problems coming in from the southern border. i accept that, i've always accepted it. but this one i would never accept if it happens, but i don't think it's going to happen. this would be totally the democrats. okay? >> did you send back the associated compromise even if you accepted it. i hope there won't be a shutdown. i am extremely unhappy with what the democrats have given us. it's sad. they are doing our country no favors. they are hurting our country very badly. but we certainly don't want to see a shutdown. you'll be hearing fairly soon. the bottom line is on the wall, we're building another wall. we're using methods.

we have a lot of money in this. we're using a small amount of money to build a wall, which we desperately need. [ inaudible question ] >> not right now. i just got a report that china wants to work things out very badly. i want a real deal, not just a deal that kcosmetically looks good. we've always been the lame duck and we're not the lame duck anymore. we've gone up tremendously in value as a country, in economic valley. tremendously. larry, we've gone up, what, 11 trillion, 14 trillion, and china has gone down close to 20 trillion since we started.

>> where is the biggest performance in the world? >> does anyone know larry kudlow? you think money, right, larry? i didn't know that. china is the worst performing stock market right now in the world. that's because of us. and we have to be one of the best performing stock markets, but we are the best performing country. we have a lot of potential for further growth. so we're doing very well over in china. our people are there, i know the people very well. and i think we're going to have some good answers. i'm unhappy. i could live with them paying billions and billions of dollars.

we gave them money. they never gave us one dollar. we'll see how it works out. at some point i would like to meet with president xi and make the parts of the deal that the group is unable to make. >> [ inaudible question ] >> as you know, we picked up the tariffs. the tariffs kick in. right now they're paying 25% on $50 billion, okay? and they're paying 10% on $200 billion. so we have 250 billion, we have $267 billion that we were very nice about and we're not taxing.

on 210%, i could see that sliding for a little while, but generally speaking, i'm not inclined to do that. >> would you consider starting a national emergency to build the wall? >> i'm considering everything. i'm considering everything. president clinton, president bush, this is not unique. they have declared and we have additional money we could use. thank you, everybody. >> the president of the united states taking questions in a cabinet meeting there, talking a great deal about the china trade

negotiations but talking mostly about will he or won't he sign a big important compromise agreement struck by bipartisan governments. trying to follow the president here. he says he's very proud of what he accomplished in the last shutdown. i would like to see evidence for that in terms the amount. and i'm supplementing things. you can take it as i'm going to sign it and do some executive action for spending, or you could take it as before yi want before we vote. which is it? >> he's hearing from a lot of

different sides. inside the white house, there are also different views of this. the majority of his advisers want him to move on. they don't think the shutdown fts good for him politically. but there is a smart group led by steven and he is in the job he's in now to fight things like the wall. they don't mind having controversy and possibly another shutdown. >> in school they would say, i'm not quite sure. i need to look into this. that's one way tompld. blame the democrats if we have a

shutdown. >> they're trying to confuse not only us but his hardliners. when we were listening to that, ann coulter, who managed to squander a deal before, said trump was afraid to fight. it's become clear that trump was afraid to fight for the wall. that's not an endorsement. is that who he's going to listen to? and last night he tried to spin the whole shutdown thing as a way that he was able to spotlight what he calls the crisis at the border recall, hopefully the people who don't get a paycheck. >> you can hear him when he didn't get what he wanted. the reason he's being a little cagey on this is he doesn't want

that same new cycle to happen where they are saying, look, trump didn't get what he wants. there are means of speaker pelosi with her glasses on and that she walked away from the white house the winner. actuallilily. >> it's smart either than the first time. there's not only polling, but the deal he was offered before the shutdown in december and the deal he's going to get now, you don't have to be a rocket scientist or, say, go to the best schools to know that 1.35 billion is less than 1.375 billion. he's being nudged to the idea

th. >> this is thehis way of saying okay, i'm going to get more. >> i will say from the capitol hillside, senate majority leader mitch mcconnell has been telling him he should accept whatever comes out, that, and as he wants to move forward, this needs to be cleared off the decks. i was texting with a couple republicans during his remarks, and most of them said, are you surprised by this? they expected this to some degree, and i will note that several of them also told me, this is going to the floor. this sblg goibuilding is going floor one way or another.

>> on social media, majority leader said sign it. the republican leader of the house mitch mccarthy said sign it. >> let's stop calling it wall funding. it's more like stall fungd rpgt the president can probably lead his base wherever he wants. they thought the president would sign the deal but it was the ann coulters and the rush limbaughs who got him off. is he going to listen to them or mitch mcconnell? >> i think the president would say stay tuned, because you're right, he has a tendency to

drive toward the hardliners. that's how he got elected, is on the law. that's how he'll get reelected. we now know the verdict in the chile of "el chapo" guzman in new york. brynn is standing outside the courthouse for us. br brynn? >> it was guilty on all ten counts for "el chapo." the first count was running a criminal enterprise, and of course jurors found him guilty on that. that carried a life sentence. now, it's important to note the judge in this is the one who is going to determine his sentence in the final ending of this, but again, that's what carried a light sentence. guilty on all counts is what we're hearing. been, we're at the white house.

for reporters covering this trial from day one, out here to hear about his recollection, the government's recollection. we're certainly going to bring that to you, but that is the verdict. guilty on ten counts that, but that's what we were trng. >> paul, the treasury department calls "el chapo" the most powerful drug trafficer in the world. what do you take as a message from an overwhelming guilty figure? >> this guilty finding i don't think is a surprise to anybody, although people were starting to get a little worried because the jury was out for so long. the jurors were asking very, very interesting questions about some of the subcounts that they had to decide. but in the end, the trial portrayed somebody who was

involved in perhaps a multi-billion-dollar drug. it was really outstanding and unbelievable to most people. for instance, he even used a submarine to bring some drugs into the units, and as they described, evil. i don't think those documents come as a surprise to me. is this something that would send a message, including the fact that after a lot of negotiations, the mexican government did cooperate to help bring "el chapo" here for trial? >> i think it's a good sign that there was cooperation, and i think ultimately it was even a recognition by the mexican government that he was too big

for them to handle. there are investigations from mexican prisons. john, there was fascinating testimony in the trial from one of the cooperating witnesses with the prosecutors say that there were huge bribes of government officials, including a $100 million bribe of a former mexican president. that has been denied by the mexicans, but it was clear that the ability of the mexicans to hold him and try him fairly was in doubt. the fact that he's held by the united states, i think, will make other people anticipate. he may get consecutive sentences here, but he faces, i think, at least ten other jurisdictions in the united states which have charged r charges bending against him. a compelling case for the government, including the fact he was able to continue running the cartel while nefs prison

many. "el chapo" claimed in 2014 that he had killed 2,000 to 3,000 people. when you look at that, it seems like a shut case. what were the arguments made for this trial? >> reporter: they didn't put out much of a defense. they were actually just using the government's witnesses and sort of saying, look at this person, they're actually getting a deal because they are in prison for other charges. so that was really their defense throughout this trial. they didn't really have much of a defense. so that's one of the reasons, as paul noted, was taking so long. again, this was a trial that was very dense. there was a lot of witnesses and there was a lot of drama and video and audio. i do want to give you some color of a reporter in the courtroom, sonja moga, our producer, rather. she's been covering this since

day one. when all of this went down, he looked at his waiver. the judge will make a final determination if he spends life in prison. his much younger wife was somewhat of a fixture in this courtroom. everyone started paying attention to her because she's much younger. she came in sometimes wearing the same clothes. she's never left his side, but let's remember, this is a man who was kept in solitary confinement. he was dmept a separate room while these dlib rarts -- dlib

rats wrap up. >> we actually have sonia on the phone with us. take us inside the courtroom in this big dramatic moment. >> this is a moment people have been waiting for involved in the trial, watching the trial for months. it's exactly three months to the day since this trial began. as that verdict was read down by u.s. district judge brian hogan, the room was quiet. "el chapo" guzman and his wife emma cornell appeared emotionless. his team tried to give her some kleenex and she said no. before that verdict was read,

"el chapo" looked at his wife. he smiled and waved at her, she waved back. she put her hand to her chestly. this is a very long journey for her, the defense teams, prosecutors. these jurors also heard hundreds of hours of testimony and have been deliberating formt -- ichlts 34. p. from that first it couch alone, just ayo fence in june. the world's most notorious drug lord convicted on all ten

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back now to other breaking news here in washington. the president of the united states in an extended session with reporters at the white house sending mixed signals saying he's not happy, not happy, not happy. he said that several times about a broken congress. no, they're not giving the president anywhere near the amount of money he wants for a border wall. the president wants to add to

it, says he can supplement things. is he going to sign it, make an executive action or have more negotiations. negotiations got lost over the weekend and finally got back on track last night. do we have any sense of what the president is saying in these early minutes after the announcement? >> i think many people are surprised. they thought this might be the reaction. i think the concern is, what is the impact of this down the line? first you have to get them to sign the deal once it's actually done. there are people on the house committee saying they're not totally sure. we have people waiting to see where the president is going to be on this. if they want to move this forward, that's the first step and i think that's the primary thing they're concerned about. the secondary thing, the reason this got to this point, even from the breakdown over the weekend to a final agreement, is because the president stayed out of it. and in some respects nancy pelosi stayed out of it.

what this means for vote counts and what this means for whether or not he's actually going to veto something, it makes people throw up their hands right now. >> one of the interesting things here is whether you're a fan of john kelly or not a fan of john kelly, some people thought, perhaps mistakenly, when mick mulvaney became chief of staff, former house member, that this part would run more smoothly. no. >> clearly they didn't know a lot about mick mulvaney's record as a congressman. because he was someone who was very pro shutdown. he was kind of in the freedom caucus mold. so that doesn't really square with who he is. and just on this weekend he said another shutdown wasn't off the table. he's not really on the side of keeping things moving in the federal government. >> we commented during the break that the president looked mad,

he looked a little angry and annoyed, and for me i would go back to last night when he did his rally and he's looking sad and really kind of wistful at this idea that his campaign slogan next time won't be make america great again. it's going to be keep america great. it will be we have to finish the wall now. okay. >> build the wall. >> right. i think the president was a little wistful about this idea that he's heading into a new -- transitioning into a new phase of his career as president, and there was a guy down the street with a huge rally, maybe a little bit bigger, with better ideas and really the same kind of message which is making an irrational thing seem rational. the idea that beto o'rourke

could prove an irrational thing in texas. but he made things real. >> whatever you think the president was saying there, the president is not really in a place where he's willing to give you a linear, definitive answer yet. how does this all play out in the 2020 campaign? another subject that came out is the democratic congresswoman ilhan omar has said some things reviewed by the democratic leadership. the president talked about that a little earlier. >> one thing i want to say, anti-semitism has no place in the united states congress. congresswoman omar, it's terrible what she said. i think she should either resign from congress or she should certainly resign from the house foreign affairs committee. what she said is so deep-seated

in her heart that her lame apology -- and that's what it was, it was lame, and she didn't mean a word of it. >> she apologized unequivocally after being electrlectured by h democratic leadership. when they say things, they allow the president to be on his moral high ground. or if you say them and believe them, they're quite controversial. >> it's partly why you saw the democratic leadership come out so quickly and condemn those comments. any time they have a moment where someone says something or does something that the president could take higher ground on, democrats come down quickly to try to get ahead of that. >> and people of color and the activists on the progressive wing, the party, don't like when pelosi comes down hard on some of these members because they represent constituencies that they need.

>> the members on the left in this case. busy day of breaking news. i appreciate your patience. "amanpour" up next internationally. for our viewers in the united states, brianna keilar up next. have a good afternoon. i'm brianna keilar live from cnn's washington headquarters. underway right now, lawmakers cut a deal, but is the price right for president trump? plus, she apologized for being offensive. he never apologizes for being offensive, and now the president is calling on a freshman democrat to resign from congress. the verdict is in for "el chapo" and words coming back to haunt her. a trump judicial nominee atones for her past comments on date rape.