last night, he mixed it up. he gave his supporters greatest hits but also dropped some new beats from his latest album. >> i loved the people of this state. we have had a great romance together. you know that. it's been a great romance. is there any place that's more fun to be than a trump rally? nice and calm. no, that's not what you're looking for. i really don't like their policy of taking away your car, of taking away your airplane flights. of, let's hop a train to california. you're not allowed to own cows anymore. the rio grande, it's happening, go check it out. there's nothing better than a good, old-fashioned german shepherd. i wouldn't mind having one but i don't have any time. how would i look walking a dog on the white house lawn? right. sort of not -- i don't know, feels a little phony to me. >> phony, interesting word. i love that the president is basically saying this

hypothetical german shepherd and you know it wouldn't be any german shepherd, would eat up some of his executive time, maybe even literally. one big mac for you, one big mac for me, double the fries, double the love. so, the president is still exaggerating his crowd sizes. he doesn't seem impressed by beto o'rourke, and you can't buy cows anymore and he would get a german shepherd if it didn't clash with his look on the white house lawn. nice and calm, that's not what you're looking for. as peaches once said, huh? what? that's about it for us. we'll hand it over to chris. >> i see the cold medicine is still working. thank you for quoting "mamma mia." look at me now, will i ever learn? i don't know how, but i suddenly lose control, there's a fire burning in my soul. i wonder if the president has those lyrics banging around in his head at those rallies. good to have you back.

great show as always. i am chris cuomo. welcome to "primetime." sign the deal. that is the growing call from people around the president. the president says he's extremely unhappy with the new shutdown stopper, but is there a better option? he has to decide what matters more. making a deal that's good for the country or dealing with the rabid right wing of his party. we have the latest on the vote count as we tick down the days to another potential shutdown. we have two players here tonight for you. one who helped crack this deal. another in the opposition and we're going to see if they can hash it out. let's see if left and right can get to reasonable. one thing the president is decisive about, calling for a democrat to resign for bigoted comments about jews. we dug up sound on the same subject that may surprise you. and here's the question, why speak out now yet be mum about steve king? that's our great debate.

and, a lot of people are testing the waters for a 2020 run but none has set off the left like the man you're going to see here live on cnn in just minutes. a presidential town hall you will not want to miss. so, what do you say? let's get after it. we're about 72 hours until the government runs out of money. where are we? we have a deal coming, a shutdown coming, something else? we have two players. one from each side. this was the president this afternoon on the potential for a deal. >> i have to study it. i'm not happy about it. it's not doing the trick, but i'm adding things to it. it's very simple. we're building a wall. >> see kellyanne back there? as of tonight, a source says the president isn't completely sold on a compromise after the call with top republican negotiator senator richard shelby. weren't they supposed to figure out what he would accept before this point?

why doesn't he like it? the deal falls short of the big price tag that will help him substantiate his promise. optics matter to this president. he wanted $5.7 billion for the wall. this falls short of money they offered him before the first shutdown. they were going to give him $1.6 billion, which is about what the white house asked for in their budget for the year. now it's not there. it includes other sweeteners but is this enough to seal the deal for the hardliners on the republican side? we have one. >> thank you for having me on. >> what's your counsel to the president? >> the president needs to stick with the plan that the american people want, which is a secure border. i was in rio grande valley last week and i wish all the american people can see what i saw, which was almost 150 to 250 people personally coming across the border.

talking to border patrol about the 400,000 people that will come through the rio grande valley this year alone of whom 200,000 won't be apprehended and the ones that will be 90% will be caught and released. we found 54 people in a stash house in houston, texas, being held ransom by the cartels that have operational control of our border and dictating to the united states the terms of what our security and border looks like. the state across the river is a level 4 state which is a no travel zone. it's more dangerous than honduras and guatemala and many other countries. we need to secure the border and the president ought to stick to that. the question has always been priority. i have done the reporting and been along the border. i've got great sourcing. they need physical barriers but only one person said it is the top priority and that's the president of the united states.

many of those things don't deal with physical barriers, they deal with rules, flows, understandings in the home countries and all of those should be funded and the requirements are great. the president says it's all about the wall. that's where the trouble is. >> what the president offered if you remember was 234 miles of fencing, $600 million of humanitarian relief. 75 judges, 50,000 beds and democrats now for some reason they want to make an argument that we don't need beds when the beds are the very issue with the asylum crisis which is the judges have put on our backs and created mandatory release. >> we'll have a democrat come on about that. but it's a little apples and oranges. how many beds should i.c.e. have versus how many should dhs cdp have? >> i get the issue. and as you know, we need beds for interior enforcement, for

i.c.e., we need beds at the border and we can help the migrants that seek to come here rather than the girls getting sold into the sex trafficking trade and leveraged by the cartels and it's a very dangerous environment. >> it's just, the wall won't stop that. >> i disagree with that. i do. >> let's talk about that quickly and then we'll go into what the alternative is. how does a wall stop trafficking when, first of all, the main part of our problem with trafficking is american kids being trafficked around this country. and there's no similar sense of urgency about dealing with that. i spent months on a documentary for hln documenting it. it's a real problem and you guys don't talk about it but the trafficking that comes across the border, it's not about not having a fence. it's about poverty and criminality. you're not a wall away from fixing it. >> i actually very much appreciate you spotlighting that issue. it's very important and i take a little issue with that. when i was in the attorney general's office we created a human trafficking division to focus on this problem and

internally it's a problem with american citizens. >> huge. >> but it's a problem for the children, the 10-year-old and 11-year-old girl walking from honduras without their parents and we know about a third of those girls are mistreated on the journey. >> terrible. >> to your point about fencing, if you look at the rio grande valley alone, you have about 35 miles of fencing and significant infrastructure. on the western side, you have very little. 94% of the traffic comes up the western side. >> the 55 miles they're asking for in this deal is a minimum but cdp was asking for something like that before that. i never argued they were immoral or unnecessary. >> i appreciate that. >> i'm just saying as a matter of priority, the rules of flow are killing -- not literally -- what's choking the system is the rules of flow. the rules are choking them.

>> the priority for me would be to make sure that we have physical infrastructure for our border patrol but also the cameras and technology they need, but here's the important part, fix the floors and asylum decisions and undermine the cartels. >> get after it. argue about the rules, but none of this is about the wall. the president has hyperfocused you guys on physical barriers and i know you wouldn't have done that. no savvy politician would have started with, i'm all in on a wall or forget it, i won't negotiate. that's his politics. i don't know how you get a better deal. would you rather have him call a national emergency? have him go executive action and have to pick from this list of priorities? but if he does executive action you have to pick winners and losers. do you take it from counter narcotics, military construction? natural disaster repair? do you want to pick losers for a barrier that's not the main priority.

>> it's about doing our basic job. we have the resources to be able to secure the border if we'll focus them in the right direction. we know that physical barriers will help the border patrol. it ought to be one piece of the entire solution and here's the reason the american people want a physical barrier. it's evidence that there's something happening at the border rather than more talk. we had talk for 15 years and now people are dying. american citizens like jared vargas murdered last year by an illegal immigrant and the stash house i described and the people being abused on the journey. we can stop this. we're the most powerful nation on earth. >> a wall will not stop those things. there's a lot of things you need to do. >> it will help. >> but you have to make a decision whether or not to vote on this deal. it's not going to give you everything, it's going to give you something and if you don't vote it, i don't see a better alternative. what's the chance that you come to a place where you can be comfortable saying yes? >> i need to see significant resources for both the physical assets that are needed and i need it to be well above the baseline which is currently this deal.

it's not enough. it's not what we need and i want to see actual action. i think we ought to do a two-week clean zr and force these people in the room to do their job. >> that's what we did the last time after a shutdown that was so bad for people. i just feel like -- >> that's why a two-week -- another two weeks, we fund everything we need to fund. nobody will have any issues. let's force everybody back into a room and let's go find the resources we need to do our job. >> you're not going to do that in two weeks. put this behind you, get the government open and then keep it going. you don't need this kind of leverage to get something. these problems are real. as soon as you get the president and this hyperfocus on the wall out of the mix, you'll find all kinds of partners willing to deal with these things. >> but it's never been just the fence or the wall. >> it has for him. >> no. it's been the 15,000 beds rejected by democrats. >> he never mentioned it the way he does the wall. we had to pull it out of him. we had to force them to talk about the other priorities because they're so high on the list.

>> i can tell you that we in congress are talking about it and the president and his team set that up in their proposals. we had 50,000 beds. that we have 75 judges. humanitarian relief. border patrol gets the resources they need and we have a fence that the american people can see and fences work and stop the cartels from getting action across the river and keeping the flow across. >> there are tons of fences down there. they need more. i understand that. it's a question of priorities and timing. let's do this. you got an open avenue to me on this. let me know where your head is on the plan. how it's working. i'd love to be able to report it to the audience and you're welcome back to discuss it. >> thank you and thank you for focusing on the humanitarian crisis and the sex trafficking. it's so important. thank you having me on. >> be well. good luck doing your job. >> thank you. >> i want to bring in a democrat who was one of the people that helped architect this current deal. the democrats are giving in on this, too. speaker pelosi called walls immoral.

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the big question, will the president support a bipartisan compromise supported by congressional leaders? we don't even know if congress is going to vote for it. let's get perspective from a democrat that took part in negotiations. welcome to "primetime." it's good to have you. >> good to be with you, chris. >> so we'll get into the specifics of the dynamic but you heard there from chip roy who was a great example of the freedom caucus. something that the president has to be sensitive to saying not enough money. i need more to make more of a manifestation of priority, especially where physical borders are concerned. do you think there's any money left to be had? >> this is a matter of priorities here, as you mentioned. we were tasked with juggling these priorities and we came to an agreement.

now these are the same individuals, the house freedom caucus, by the way, that whispered in the president's ear that he should force a shutdown. the offer then was 1.6 billion in barrier and he has less now. >> right. and they're saying we want more. this is a tricky thing for you because politics are at play. democrats have always funded physical barriers. sometimes it's we want to repair and replace. we don't want to add too much more. and then because the president made it a binary proposal, wall or no wall, all of a sudden democrats hardened up. not a dollar for the wall. nancy pelosi called it immoral so how hard of a sell is this on the democrat side? you're funding the wall to the tune of more than a billion dollars? >> let's keep in mind what the president's promise was, it was a sea to shining sea wall that mexico was going to pay for. that's not happening here. we asked, give us evidence based approaches on what is necessary, but as you highlighted this is about competing priorities. we want to make sure that adequate money is going into

humanitarian aid and technology at the border. it isn't just one or the other. we have to look at all of these together and that's what the appropriations committee and this conference committee was tasked to do. we found a compromise. we'll have a bipartisan solution and our job is to encourage our colleagues and to walk them through what this means against the alternatives, which were not great. we want to make sure that we keep government open and that we protect our borders and honor our values. this agreement does that. >> from understanding all the different sides i have in my ear about this, the one place where there's space for you guys, you're right, there's that church and other areas on the border where people are going to fight and say our community doesn't want it, but that rio grande corridor is a real concern. i know you know the politics very well of the area. not to tell you your own business. but it is a high priority. you haven't funded all of what they want there across that corridor. is that something you considered

as potential space on the table? >> well, this was one of the longstanding priorities that we are funding. so we listened to them. >> they wanted more than 55 miles. >> they wanted more than 55 miles and this is what is on the table. we looked at their priorities and made a decision based on the data that this would be something that we could reasonably support. so, this isn't ideal. i want to be clear. if democrats were drawing this entire bill, we would not come up with this mix, but we were tasked to do a job post-shutdown in order to keep the government open and this is the best that we can possibly do at this point. >> what are they telling you about the chance to get the votes? any trouble on your side? the other side? >> we're going to have a conversation in the morning and we'll walk through this dynamic and so our job is to make the case and to tell folks exactly what is in this and exactly

compare it to what a cr would have done, a continuing resolution, which my colleague mentioned as an alternative and how that would have affected our key priorities as well. this is the better offer on the table and that's why we're carrying it forward. >> how about a couple of what ifs. is it going to be a two-week thing because at least you're talking and making progress. is that something you're open to? how about the daca stuff? we saw what they offered up. it was a digging into daca, not extending the protection the way you guys wanted but is daca on the table or a two-week extension? >> no, and a temporary protection for daca and tps is not on the table either. if they want to come to the table with a permanent solution, we're all ears. >> so you have given that up for now? >> well, we have this deal on the table. so, adding the other dynamics at this point makes it too complicated. so, we're trying to focus specifically on the homeland

security appropriations bill which is our task in funding government without including the other priorities. some of them, i want those priorities. but this is not the opportunity to do that. we were given a short window and a limited run delay in order to develop that framework and in order to fund all of these priorities that we have. >> what is your guess that this gets done by friday? >> we can get this done. this is a bipartisan deal and what we need to reinforce to the american public and our communities and our colleagues is that nobody gets everything that they want in this deal, but this advances the ball. this holds back the president's ridiculous request for $5 billion. gives him less than a republican controlled senate gave him last year. >> they haven't even finished spending all of that money yet. just because you guys appropriate money, not to make the case that you're wasteful, which i could make, but we'll do that another night, they haven't even finished spending it yet because just because you get the money doesn't mean you can spend the money which is why there's that money sitting around that the president may tap into.

are you worried that he doesn't shutdown the government but winds up reaching into the pocket for executive or national emergency action in a way that you could regret? >> the constitution is clear, congress has to appropriate funds. that's our job. that's our responsibility. i understand that the president doesn't respect that we're a co-equal branch of government here. we can focus on what we can do and focus on working together. we have democrats and republicans in the house and senate moving forward in the same direction and i would hope my colleagues would also push back against executive overreach but we reserve all options on the table if he does. >> leaving daca and tps out of it. that's a big give. that will be a tough pill for democrats. hopefully it's a sign of good faith with the other side. congressman, i am an open channel for you. we'll be in contact with the office. you can contact us and let us know how it's going and what people need to understand

because we need progress. >> thanks so much. >> be well and good luck doing your job. i wish both of them the same on that because that's what this has to come down to. congress has to do its job. i'm worried about these intervals. two weeks, two weeks, two weeks. the president's argument is a big part of this problem. he made the wall a singular priority and he tells you that it will stop what you fear, like drugs. well, you just got an amazing window into the reality of how that poison gets to our communities. the el chapo trial. i watched the trial. i studied the issues, i'm going to show you a lesson that he wants to ignore, next. and we're awaiting another big 2020 event that you'll see only here on cnn. a run by the former ceo of starbucks. would that ensure a two-term trump? lots of questions for howard schultz tonight in houston. we're going to take you there, ahead.

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the reality we saw spelled out in a courtroom is why i have been telling you that the wall is not the cure the president promised. >> if we build a powerful and fully designed see-through steel barrier on our southern border, the crime rate and drug problem in our country would be quickly and greatly reduced. >> almost three months of testimony. federal prosecutors got el chapo's own men to lay out exactly how they smuggled boats into this country. fishing boats, trains, cars, tractor-trailers, sub marines, but not a single witness ever said they ever drove around the barriers. the tunnels were the method of choice. who says? the top lieutenant. he testified a tunnel is the most secure way to cross drugs to the u.s. the easiest way to cross over weapons. he said in the late 80s or 90s, 95% of the cocaine was brought into the u.s. by tunnel.

now, 2012, the border tunnel prevention act passed with bipartisan approval. el chapo's guys said that's when they started relying on legal points of entry. hiding it in all sorts of cars and trucks, flooding the ports, playing a numbers game knowing there aren't enough agents or technology to search every vehicle. and as for the drivers, it's interesting that the president chose to make el paso his case study for the wall. the cartel made it a point to hire families that live in el paso to drive drugs across the boarder several times a day. the irony is, the president used to love to use el chapo as an example of why we need to get tough on the border but when the truth came out, it proved the wall isn't the fix we need and as unmistakable of a win it is to see someone like el chapo heading to prison for the rest of his life, the fact is physical barriers are more farce

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a day after a democratic congresswoman apologized for tweets that many deemed were anti-semitic, here was the president's take. >> her lame apology, because she didn't mean a word of it, was inappropriate. she should resign from congress but at a minimum she couldn't be on committees. >> the president weighing in on the political future of a freshman democrat. when it was his own, his buddy, his mentor, congressman steve king, here was the president's level of concern. >> i haven't been following it.

i haven't been following it. >> following it? you have known him for years. you're his acolyte. come on. let's get after it. do you believe the president should have been as vocal about king as he is about omar? if the answer is yes, why? >> well, he should have been as vocal as king and about other members of his party, whether you're talking about mccarthy who used anti-semitic tropes himself in 2016 when he was running for re-election. but the president himself has his own racist history. he traffics in racism. steve king is a racist. it's ironic and i don't think people take seriously what he says when he criticizes congresswoman omar. her comments were anti-semitic and ignorant and do not deserve to be heard in our discourse at that level. aipac is an organization that does not spend within the top 50

in lobbying funds. >> fair point. >> when you look at the fact that it's bipartisan and her comments make the nuanced conversation we have to have about israel more difficult. >> should she be removed? >> no. you can talk about the way law enforcement treats ethiopians, and other africans in israel, that's fair and be critical, but you can't delve into anti-semitic tropes. >> democrats said steve king should be off the committees. why not here? >> steve king has a history. this is not anything new. this young lady has been in congress not two or three months and i do have a sincere problem with her comments. i will say this, though. i believe that many republicans need to sit this one out. donald trump has no moral high ground here and nancy pelosi did

what she should do. this young lady apologized. she seemed sincere in her apology. she wants to learn. >> he doesn't want to let that new look go to waste. don't think i didn't see it. >> it's wintertime. >> my wife does not like it. so it might not last. we'll see. >> it won't last long. >> it is just not true that she doesn't have a history. she absolutely has a documented social media history. she had to apologize in fact for calling israel evil. that's not talking policy. she said israel had hypnotized the world. that's where we are getting into anti-semitism rather than criticism of israel which is fine from a policy perspective. the idea that she shouldn't be removed from her committees, just as steve king was, both of them were trafficking in hate. both of them equally wrong and they should face the same consequence. but here's the other difference, you said that she seems sincere in her apology.

here's why i don't believe that because unlike steve king, his crimes were bad enough, but he didn't double and triple down. she is set to appear february 23rd in florida for the islamic relief usa event. she's going to be on with a man who on social media called, quote, beautiful the killing of jews in israel and the rocket bombing of tel aviv. she will share a podium and stage with that merchant of hate. that tells me she is not remotely sorry. >> i don't know what she plans on doing in her future other than the words that she said. but my pushback would be this. one is that steve king has a history of racism. he even has confederate flags on his desk. that's first. second, i think that chris started out by saying that the president of the united states, should he be interjecting himself into this? and while i appreciate whether or not we can find sincerity in the apology of representative omar, my question is, where is the apology from donald trump to

the central park five and the individuals he discriminated against in housing? where is the apology from donald trump when you talk about the casino dealers in atlantic city? where is the apology for those that come into this country to find a better life and donald trump refers to them as racist. they don't have the high ground. i'll give you this, though, we have a problem in this country with the rise of anti-semitism and the rise of racism and hate. it does not belong in the discourse of this country and as a democrat, i can say congressman omar is wrong. i challenge you to say donald trump is wrong. because as we say down south, what's good for the goose is good for the gander. >> the president said nothing about steve king. there was a lot of momentum around it, the left, the media, and then the right, mccarthy to his credit, came out and took action against the guy. all of congress. the president never said a word. literally, the cliche, the silence was deafening.

why was that allowed by your party? >> to his discredit. he should have said it. >> why didn't he? >> one reason perhaps he didn't is because the republican party on the hill disciplined its own. so he didn't have to. >> he comments on everything. he didn't need to intervene. >> the democrats have not done that, by the way. they have not done that with representative omar and they need to. this is a blot on them. this is an anti-semitic blot on them and the fact that they won't discipline her the same way that king was disciplined by the republicans is reprehensible. >> why should the president talk about omar and not king? >> my point is that she has not been disciplined by her own party. there's been no consequence to her in reality. and in fact, she is planning on sharing the stage with a sympathizer with terrorism, with muslim brotherhood. >> i hear your point.

>> i cannot speak to that. i have no information on that. i don't know that to be true or false. i can't sit here and lie to the american public and speak to that. but what i can say is that nancy pelosi and even me as a progressive democrat in the south, we will all stand up and say that was anti-semitic. we will all stand up and say you have lessons to learn about israel. you have lessons to learn, as i said earlier today on another show about what's going on all the way up to tel aviv and everywhere in between. we can ask you to apologize but we can also say this is a learning moment, not just for you, congressman omar, but everyone and we're going to hold you to that. i don't see what's wrong with that when we're trying to move this country forward. >> i agree with all of that, but it can't just be an apology. it has to be an apology and consequences as it was for steve king, as it should have been for steve king. why is she not stripped of her committee assignments? why is she not just forced to

apologize but actually forced to suffer consequences in her career, legislative, professional consequences. >> i'm with you on the logic. you're walking in the same steps, the same path for both, equal. but your problem is you lose it on the president. and he laid out his own, i'll give you a pass for the sake of argument. when you guys didn't say mr. president, we're coming after steve king and for good reason, lift your voice, tweet, do what you do best, weigh in on something that is a potential outrage and he didn't. he never has, silence deafening, unexplained. >> i'm sorry, go ahead, steve. >> chris, as i already said, i can see. i wish he had. but i'm also grateful and perhaps the reason he didn't is the fact that the republican party took care of discipline on its own. >> or does he agree with steve --

>> in your introduction you called him his mentor and trump his acolyte. that's unfair. >> that's not unfair. >> tom tancredo was the mentor for steve king. steve king took up that border xenophobic deal. trump went out to see him and wound up picking up that issue shortly thereafter and adopting similar rhetoric. they both used the term nationalist to explain themselves to americans. >> i use the term nationalist because i'm an american nationalist and america has nothing to do with race. we are a country, not a race. >> the idea of nationalism is a dangerous thing. >> american nationalism is about shared values and our constitution. it has nothing to do with racism. >> that's patriotism. >> you're confusing that word. don't protect everything this

president does. go ahead. >> you're confusing -- steve is confusing patriotism with prejudice and you can envelop nationalism in anything you want. you can even dress white supremacy up in anything you want and at the end of the day it's still white supremacy. to get back to donald trump and steve king, donald trump campaigned for steve king and said he represents our values. steve king is a racist today. he was a racist yesterday. he will be a racist tomorrow. he is a scourge on what we try to do in our democracy, but even more importantly, donald trump is the same person that went to charlottesville and said there are good people on both sides. >> we have to wrap it up. >> my only point is donald trump traffics in racism and steve king is a racist and they belong together. >> final words, because we're out of times. >> he rebuked david duke. the fact that david duke endorsed him does not mean trump endorses david duke.

>> he said, i don't know who that is. >> we don't have time to get into it. the past is prologue, right? he's had this thing dogging him and we have to look at why. well argued and thank you. appreciate it. >> thank you. >> all right. big night tonight. got our show here. but also you have cnn's big event with one of the most controversial contenders for 2020. right back from where it's all going down, next. is that for me? mhm aaaah! nooooo... nooooo... nooooo... quick, the quicker picker upper! bounty picks up messes quicker and is 2x more absorbent than the leading ordinary brand. [son loudly clears throat] sigh [mom and dad laugh] bounty, the quicker picker upper.

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stage in houston, texas. he's going to take voters' question in cnn's town hall. schultz hasn't decided on a bid yet. but he has drawn the ire of democrats, saying his third party run could split the anti-trump vote. david, good to have you. you're in the place to be tonight. am i overstating the proposition, that he does -- while he's not in the race yet, he seems to be the one drawing the most attention that's negative from the democrats. >> i think that's totally right. that's a fair proposition. in fact, chris, i think that's all people know about howard sh schultz, since he made it clear that he is making a run for the presidency. democrats are concerned that he's going to throw the election to donald trump. what tonight offers is an opportunity for him to provide americans more information about his background and about the major issues on the minds of

these voters here in texas. we don't know too much about his policy proposals. this is an opportunity to tackle that, not be the guy that democrats are, frankly, freaking out about. >> true. it will be interesting to see. i did some homework on him today. and i interviewed him during the great recession, in his indivisible. he was selling bracelets in starbucks where the money was going to go to a fund to help distressed homeowners. it will be interesting to see how he deals with noneconomic issues. what are you looking for there? >> yeah. i agree. economic issues are his wheel house. i think that's why voters will be eager to hear from him on health care and climate and foreign policy issues. we're in the midst of a presidency from someone that was outside of politics and inside the world of business.

the questions is, how do you take the business skills and make them applicable to impacting these people's lives? and how do you do that in a way that contrasts with the president? obviously, if he is considering running, he wants to contrast with the current occupant of the oval office. why would his experience be different than what the country is seeing from donald trump right now? >> that's a softball from him. the personal stories couldn't be more different. and their business acumen couldn't be more different in terms of success. what i'm interesting in, what do you think is the chance percentage-wise, that he's going to say, i'm going to run and i'm going to run as a democrat? >> i think that's a great question. he's made clear that neither party speaks to him right now. he believes there is a real viable path to 270 electoral votes for an independent candidate. now, we know other folks like michael bloomberg, right, in path cycles and said there is no viable path. that's why bloomberg is now considering running for the democratic nomination. howard schultz is clearly coming

to a different conclusion. i think he's already made it clear where he is out of step with where the democratic party grassroots is right now, chris. so i think it would be hard for him to kind of run as a democrat at this point and win the nomination. >> poppy harlow is in the chair next to him tonight. none of us know more about business than she does on the anchor level. it's going to be great to see her tonight with him, because she's going to be really able to channel and finesse the questions from the audience, because she understands the issues so well in the same wheelhouse that schultz has. we'll see what happens. david chalian, thank you. excited to watch. >> thanks, chris. i want to give you one more thought on a situation we've been talking about this hour. this situation with omar versus king, i don't like the comparison and i don't like how the intolerance and discrimination at some of the top levels of our government has been handled. there's a lesson here and we ain't learning it. the argument, next.

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is bigotry wrong or not? is intolerance wrong or not? if the answer is yes, then call it all out when it comes from elected leaders. call them to account, period. always, amen. but we can't do this. and when i say "we," no one stands out more than our president. >> congressman omar is terrible, what she said. and i think she should either resign from congress or she should certainly resign from the house foreign affairs committee. >> he wants congressman omar to resign for playing up ugly