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welcome to inside politics, i'm john king. thank you for sharing your day with us. the fbi's former number two is worried about russian meddling and they delayed asking the president declared unfit for office. vice president pence rebuked three key american allies, accusing france, germany and the united kingdom of being soft on iran. the deal is printed. senate first, the house this evening, then the spending bill that gives the president little
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money for the border wall heads to the oval office. those hoping the president will sign it are asking for help. >> see what happens. i signed it last night, a lot of us did. we have to pass it. we all pray the president will sign it. >> let's all pray the president will have wisdom to sign the bill so government doesn't shut down. >> not every day you get prayers like that in the united states senate. we begin with a dramatic akount of top fbi and justice officials debating whether they will have president trump unfit for office. two of the key players in this drama have major credibility issues. one is andrew mccabe. he was fired last year and the department of justice wrote a scathing report. the other is president trump, his casual relationship with the truth is beyond well documented.
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mccabe's book is about to hit the shelves and on 60 minutes sunday. mccabe talks about the worry after the president fired his boss, james comey. he returned from a meeting so disturbed, they ordered the agents to expand russian meddling to include the question of whether the comey firing was an attempt to obstruct justice. >> i was very concerned i was able to put the russia case on absolutely solid ground in a fashion that were i removed quickly or reassigned or fired, the case could not be closed or vanish in the night without a trace. >> correspondent scott kelly says in portions of the interview, mccabe confirms a story reported by "the new york times" last year. senior officials and rod rosenstein debated on whether the president was acting on
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russia's behalf and if there were grounds to invoke the 25th amendment and remove the president of the united states from office. the president lashed out on twitter as he almost does and twisted facts. disgraced was the label the president gave mccabe, accusing him and political motivations. he is a disgrace to the fbi and the country, the president tweets. mccabe says he has notes that support his account. we know special counsel robert mueller has those. laura is joining us. when you go through this, top justice officials saying should we try to get the president removed from office. wow! >> it's a stunning account, truly extraordinary, john. it's interesting, mccabe was not painting turmoil in general, but also getting to the heart of the matter and how the firing of fbi
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james comey triggered a sea. mainly, whether he was working on behalf of russia as we have previously reported. mccabe has done more describing his discussions with the deputy attorney general who has been overseeing the special counsel's investigation, mainly the fact he says rosenstein raised the idea of wearing a wire to record the president and also discussed, potentially, potentially, recruiting cabinet members to invoke the amendment to remove the president. they are pushing back on behalf of rosenstein saying as they previously stated based on his personal dealings with the president, there was no basis to invoke the amendment, nor was the dag in a position to consider invoking the 25th amendment. they are not saying it wasn't
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discussed, it was never carried out or serious. they scored the fact mccabe was removed from the investigation and he's been under investigation for lying to investigators. as you mentioned, john, mccabe has kept notes. >> we see this drama continue to play out. laura, we appreciate it. >> abbey phillip is with us. again, there are credibility questions about two players here, the president of the united states and andrew mccabe. it's also interesting the rosenstein statements are very lawyerly. he does not deny the conversations took place. he said mccabe has some of the facts wrong and he was never going to invoke, that would be jeff sessions, not him. he didn't say it never happened, he just didn't get it right. >> we never went through with the 25th amendment discussion. he never approached anybody,
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including the attorney general who is upstairs from him and he never actually wore a wire or authorized anyone to wear a wire to record the president. i mean, this is a very extraordinary thing to have happen. one of the things you have to underscore is andy mccabe is still under investigation. the idea he is going out and telling stories, some of which, you know, it depends on how you read it, he had to get reviewed from the justice department, from the fbi to tell some of the stories. there are certain things he was not allowed to put in the book. not clear if he is sticking by that, whether his account to "60 minutes" cbs is with it. he is daring the department of justice to charge him. it is a very risky thing he is doing. he's ripping the scab off all the stuff the fbi was going through in early 2017. we'll see, you know, what mueller tells us about whether
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comey and mccabe were right to be suspicious of the president or not. >> to that point, "the new york times" reported this, this is somebody on camera who was the number two and the acting fbi director. listen to your point here. listen to how mccabe describes it. his boss is fired, meets with the president. he worries the president of the united states might actually be taking actions on behalf of the russians. >> i was speaking to the man who had just run for the presidency and won the election for the presidency and who might have done so with the aid of the government of russia, our most formidable adversary on the world stage. that was something that troubled me greatly. >> so, like all of this, this is in the eye of the beholder. if you are a democratic trump critic, you watch this and say
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there is a credible guy, a law enforcement official who wasn't true about everything but expands the investigation because he is worried about the investigation. if you are on trump's side, that's the deep state. that's the deep state right there. he has a meeting with the president, doesn't like how it goes and expands the investigation. >> we know clearly, in the first few months of the administration, the president's behavior was alarming to a lot of people in his own government. he was doing things and saying things that set off alarm bells for a number of people. mccabe is not the only person who came out and said that. but, from president trump's perspective, he is looking at the situation and seeing, basically, a conspiracy within the department of justice against him. that's why he, for so long, didn't trust the people in that building. he harbored a lot of suspicion about people within his own government and i think that persists to this day, although,
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it has lessened. president trump was doing things that caused a lot of people's concern, but at the same time, you hear his allies saying he was doing those things because he didn't understand how the government worked. he didn't get what he was not supposed to do. the question for everyone now is, how much of a learning curve are you going to give the person who is the president of the united states and for how long? i think, you know, it's not for me to say, but these are the facts that are out there. the president did things that caused concern. he just didn't know. >> we know this is the kind of stuff you can read in the president's tweets. this is what gets under his skin. >> absolutely. as with many things, the president is transparent about what it is that bothers him. the heart of the question, was the fbi exceeding bounds of authority and acting properly?
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whatever the political views in that accordingization were? was it right to open an investigation on a duly elected president? if so, how should it be conducted? that hasn't been settled, yet. certainly, a trump presidency opened them. they are brand-new questions the country hasn't grappled with, a question congress will have to decide, how should the fbi handle an issue like this or should it not handle an issue like this at all? >> we assume the fact finder here with the most credibility is robert mueller. we don't know how much of, if he goes through these questions and answers your question, was that a rightful escalation of the investigation? who should we believe? was the president new on the job and trying to figure out what to do? if mueller doesn't reach a
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question saying is it okay. >> mueller has the information we reported on last year about the memo and this conversation about the 25th amendment, the reasons that mccabe says he opened the counter intelligence investigation, but we don't know what the conclusion is going to be. obviously, mueller has a lot more contacts for us than we do or the white house in terms of the visibility, what was going on at that time, what the fbi knew and what that information was. he has to put that together and, you know, as a zig saw puzzle. the hope is he comes out with something conclusive. if he doesn't, you have an ironic situation where you have a president suspicious of his own government, believing that people are out to get him and perversely, the fact that he thought that and acted in those ways furthered that. mccabe said i saw the president fire the fbi director, i ought
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to do something that solidifies this investigation that needs to go forward in case he does the same thing to me. you have a push/pull feeding on itself between a president who is suspicious of his own people and fbi official who sees that could undermine the work of the government. >> as we saw from the comey book rollout, the president tracks these things. today is day one as this plays out. more from the "60 minutes" interview. more interviews are coming out. it's going to be interesting. up next, amazon dumps new york and says certain politicians are to blame. i need great without the wait. new elvive rapid reviver deep conditioners. l'oréal's patented conditioners work fast with no leave-in time. enriched with damage-repairing serum. 2x easier detangling 2x less breakage than with a leading conditioner. works deep. repairs damage fast. hair's transformed instantly.
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announcer: this is cnn breaking news. major breaking news in the tech and business world. amazon is now cancelling plans to build a second headquarters in new york city. the company is blaming some local and state politicians. let's get to the details.
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a big deal. >> that's right. amazon is pulling out of the plan to build one of its headquarters here in new york. in a statement, basically blaming local and state politicians who were vocally opposed to the deal. this is a huge blow to both the new york city mayor, bill de blasio and governor cuomo who were argued in favor of it. the most controversial part of the deal were the tax incentives the city was offering, $3 billion in total. what the mayor and governor were arguing is that $3 billion was worth it because amazon being here in new york would generate $27 billion in revenue and bring the largest number of jobs in the state's history, 25,000 jobs and an average salary of $150,000. still, there was a lot of opposition in new york from state and local officials basically saying amazon had not done enough.
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they wanted the company to invest in transportation here, maybe alleviate some of the housing, the increasing housing costs. that was a real concern to the community. look, being from new york and seeing how tech has impacted the city, a concern among young voters has been whether or not new york would become the next san francisco and be, essentially, too expensive for anyone young and starting out to be in the city. you see the way voter frustration played out in elections here in new york, resulting in representative cortez being elected. john, this is both political and business story. we'll have to see what happens from here. amazon really making the decision for new york city. >> it is a big one. keep us posted if there's more reaction from the mayor or the governor as we go through this. appreciate the reporting. matt from "the washington post" joins us, too. this is going to be proof to
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cortez, she is having success. this is before amazon was reconsidering. we don't have reaction, yet, from her. we are trying to get it. this is what she said before, i think it's exciting. i think it's encouraging to see we have a responsibility to the communities we directly impact. we need to reconsider those deals and that process. she's going to say this is a victory. is it or will this -- there's already been some democrats who said they need to find a primary challenger. >> what is interesting is rather than initiating a process which there was communication with amazon about what more they can do, the process is over. i mean, amazon is pulling out. there are going to be no concessions here for the community that she's concerned with. i think you will see a lot of people, even other democratic politicians say why throw the baby out with the bath water, which is what happened here. i think new york may have been
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able to get more out of amazon, frankly, but amazon decided the political opposition is just too much and not worth getting hit on both sides now. this is the second issue they have been hit on from politicians on the left and the right. it's a lot of incoming from the company. >> i think this clash probably between cortez and what she represents and bill de blasio and what he represents and andrew cuomo, the governor. i think that clash between the democrats is interesting right now. so far, it's been mostly theoretical, the debates. this has been real, losing jobs in a state and a city that sets that up over corporate interests and over jobs and infrastructure in a city. >> i think this is the most visible result we have seen of the power of progressive politics on the national stage. it is certainly something you will see republicans pointing to when they say this talk sounds
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good. i think it will be used in opposition to the green new deal. the talk sounds good, here is the consequence of it. it will be interesting to see the democratic response to that and how they are able to pair the republicans. >> you mentioned the republicans taking advantage, you should see the tension in the democratic party. some because it's a local concern versus a big state. she says this is my neighborhood, governor cuomo says this is my state. listen to the governor before the pull out decision. governor cuomo said it was horrible. >> there is no business that brings 25,000 jobs. they don't exist. we need amazon. you want to know how dangerous it is? there's a story today that says amazon may not come to new york. if amazon does not come to new york, it's because of the
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political opposition. >> he calls it dangerous. he calls it dangerous. here is a freshman congresswoman who stunned the world with a primary victory who is a congresswoman whose shown she is not afraid to stand her ground in fights against her governor who thinks he's supposed to be the power of the state. >> i think she is right, but the challenge is not going to come from the republicans, it will be within the democratic party. don't forget the way she won her seat, primarying a long serving person who was the business wing of the party, lost touch with the values and the needs of people in the district. we have heard this argument again and again from the progressives who won elections and are in the democratic caucus on capitol hill. i think we are going to continue to see this tension. this is a concrete example where now the business wing folks can point to something and say, well, that's 25,000 jobs we didn't get.
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she will say, we were giving too much in the interest of, sort of begging this company to come and establish a headquarters here. her whole argument is, we don't need to beg for these jobs, we need to create a different kind of economy where we don't have to come with hat in hand and we can have better jobs and housing for people. it's a very difficult argument to make in the abstract. this is a concrete case where it didn't work. >> the issues are different. the activism of the young democratic members is similar to the tea party from the 2010-2014 parties creating friction. congress and the spending compromise. you know what day it is? any romantic valentine plans that might have been in the works? never mind. >> i had some other plans before this final agreement got reached and now it looks like i'll be spending the evening, you know, from 6:30 to 9:00 tonight with
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president trump, today, griping that republicans were outplayed in negotiating the new spending bill, which congress will vote on today. sources telling cnn, the president who fashions himself as a deal maker is wondering why
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he wasn't consulted more. the bill, here you go. it's not all of it, i left some on the desk. it requires everyone, democrats, republicans and the white house to hold their nose a little bit. it falls way short of the president's demand of $5.7 billion in border wall funding. the senate, then the house are expected to vote on the deal later today. republicans know the president is mad because he's getting so little of what he demanded. as they discuss this compromise, they are trying to spin it as progress. >> a government shutdown is never going to help. it hurts people. maybe burned once here badly, i believe it led us to a very good compromise that, again, gives the president the ability to move forward with the plan that the professionals told us they want and need at the border.
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>> bill mattingly is live on capitol hill. it's interesting how the senator put it. the professionals say is different than what the president says. >> reporter: look, what you have seen publicly and what i have been told privately from republican senators is trying to message it. she is referring to when they receive private briefings from staff and department of homeland security. you are hearing senator richard shelby, the top republican negotiator here talking about how this serves as a down payment. this is a broader concept. multiple senators saying the president wants to act on his own, go ahead, do it. it's part of the process. what you are hearing is a message directly to the president, this is part of the process, it's a win, at least in the near term and gives you space to do more afterwards. the reason why they are doing that, you played the sound in the beginning of the show.
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how they are praying for a resolution. grassley praying. i'm told the republicans here have not received an explicit assurance that the president will support the bill. they are waiting to see. we have a cryptic tweet from the president that was deleted that simply said funding bill. which, you know, after denying weeks of this, let's go. that's fine. i don't know what it means. i'm sure somebody has a better idea than i do. i think the bottom line is on capitol hill, in congress, the house and the senate, both are confident they have the votes to pass it. the wild card is where the president is going to be on this that will determine how big the vote is. make no mistake the president is going to move this afternoon. the house will follow suit. they want to know where the president actually stands on the funding bill. >> you can join that tour that went by you as well.
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i hope miss mattingly expects you for a late dinner. to phil's point, the president tweeted funding bill, then deleted it. then he said he's considering the funding bill, looking it over with the team at the white house. it's page 33 is one of the issues for the president which it says, it talks about, number one, the number for barrier spending is way below what the president canted. two, it talks on page 33 the money can only go to the existing, structures like the existing structure. we have seen the trump prototypes. the law says no. whatever new things you build have to copy what is already on the border. that's not what the president wants. >> no, it is clearly not for his wall. none of this money is for the wall he asked for. that language has been in appropriations bills. that's what got him angry and led him to shut down the government at the end of last
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year and engage in this fight. the amount this is obviously not only less than what he asked for, but less than the deal that vice president pence offered up as a way to get them out of the shutdown in the first time. they back slid a lot in the negotiations, even border security. what is amazing is we are in a phase where the president likes to build up the anticipation, is he going to sign it or not. even when he made the decisions, a lot of time he likes to keep up the suspension. i'm reviewing the bill. it's not like i'm going to sign it. i'm reviewing it. that gives republicans fits. in a situation like this, where he is unhappy with the results, he holds on to that, keeping people in suspense until the end. >> he's put them in tough spots
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before. everybody remembers the bill that he literally almost did not sign until the last second, giving people on the hill a heart attack and had to be talked out of not signing that bill. i think there's always a possibility, with trump, at the last moment he can decide that he is going to go the path that literally no one else wants to go down and take and walk out of the room, as a negotiating tactic. so, you know, our sources have told us that he is likely to do it, but no one is willing to go out on a limb over this one. president trump really does not like this bill. he's not really one for details. this is going to be about whether or not he feels like the politics of the situation is one he can sell to his people and he may not know that until he is at that point where he has to make a final decision. >> he's not one for details. this is a situation where his supporters are likely to seize on the bill and say this is terrible.
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this is a place where the president got ruled by democrats. he is going to pay attention to what the nuances in this bill are. as far as the president's position has evolved over the past year, last march he has the opportunity to exchange 25 billion for his wall for citizenship for daca recipients. he said no to that. he then could have accepted 1.6 billion for the wall, he said no. here we are at 1.3 billion. we have gradually seen the number the president is talking about diminish over the past year and he said, after he signed that bill that he was never going to sign a bill he hadn't read before that was crafted overnight. well, that bill is sitting there. he is in the same position again. i don't think we have seen the president's position improve over the past 12 months. >> that's a great way to put it. the president positioned, this is much less than he could have had, yet the expectation is he will sign it.
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you are holding out until we see the signature. >> there is a reason no one is willing to say he will sign. >> he cares about winning and cares about his base. both of those things are in jeopardy with this bill. i think his ability to sell it is strained because of what you are laying out. i think there's a question of, we talked about this off camera, but why not take valentine's day off? why do they need to go so quickly? there's ap -- apprehension. >> mcconnell wants a vote in the senate to send a message to the house and the president there's no time to shut down. france, germany, the united kingdom under fire from the vice president of the united states. so, i started with the stats regarding my moderate to severe plaque psoriasis.
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topping the political radar, the senate is voting, right now, right now, on whether to make barr. he was nominated by president trump last year to replace jeff sessions. senate democrats have been skeptical of how barr will handle the upcoming conclusion of the russia investigation. the new york city mayor says we'll wait until march before announcing whether he will join the growing field of democrats. he wants to put space between
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announcements. senator chuck schumer firing back at mitch mcconnell's vote on the green new deal. the ambitious plan has been ridiculed. they see it as a stunt, aimed at embarrassing them. schumer says bring it on. welcome the vote. >> the republican leader says he wants to bring the green new deal resolution up for a vote. i sago for it. bring it on. trust me. we'll be fine. >> the stunning review of some of america's closest allies by the vice president of the united states. at a mideast conference in poland, mike pence urging the european union to take a tougher stance against iran. he accused america's friends of helping america's enemy. >> two weeks ago, germany, france and the united kingdom announced the creation of a special financing mechanism
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designed to oversee a mirror image transaction that would replace sanctionable payments between eu businesses and iran. they call this scheme a special purpose vehicle. we call it an effort to break american sanctions against iran's murderous revolutionary regime. it's an ill-advised step. it will only strengthen iran, weaken the eu and create distance between europe and the united states. >> we know the administration is not happy about this, but that is remarkable. it is not every day the vice president of the united states travel to europe, on european soil and call out american allies by name. by name. not just saying we don't like what they are doing, but it's bad in the end. >> to say, explicitly say that there is a gap between the united states and the european union that is growing, i think
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is extraordinary. usually, american presidents go to europe to say this is a bond that can b't be broken. pence is saying the exact opposite of that. the united states is still kind of on an island on the iran nuclear deal. they are saying, look, we don't like everything iran is doing. we laid out the deal. by the way, the united states intelligence community agrees with that assessment. pence is delivering president trump's message, but not really doing much to convince the europeans of something his own committee believes to be true. >> scheme. >> shows how disruptive the trump white house has been on international issues. iran nuclear deal is something that brought the world together, the same with the paris climate change agreement. it's always interesting seeing that on vivid display the
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rupture between the united states and europe as they try to proceed on this. >> far from trying to actually bring anyone back together after the steps they made on the iran deal and paris and nato to try to repair the breaches. they are actively sort of exasperating the divide there and making it clear to the world, there is a divide. that is okay with them. that is the framework we are operating as the united states and striking. >> fairly put. a badge of honor to fight the europeans so publicly. it's remarkable. a sad twist, remembering the lives lost in parkland, florida. a look at where the gun ban stands a year later. things happen. and sometimes you can find yourself heading in a new direction. but at fidelity, we help you prepare for the unexpected with retirement planning and advice for what you need today and tomorrow.
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in six minutes and 20 seconds, 14 students and three staff members were killed. one of the students just received a full scholarship to swim at the university of indianapolis. cnn spoke with his friend spencer bloom this morning. >> right now, nick should be diving into six feet under water to practice swimming for the olympics, 2020 olympics. instead, he's six feet underground. there's nothing that can be done to change that. you know, carmen should be decorating her dorm, jaime dancing. these kids were our friends. >> these kids were our friends. president trump marking the day in a statement that included, we will not rest until our schools are secure and communities are safe. the biggest difference one year later here in washington is democrats control the house. they are ready to move and
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already moving on gun control proposals. most of the proposals have zero chance of becoming law because of the republican senate and the president's position. first and foremost issue, watch the moment of silence and you hear, again, from the survivors in parkland. your heart stops sometimes, because the stories and memories are heart breaking. has anything changed here, at all? the president, right after the shooting, talked about raising the age for gun purchases and banning bump stocks and very strong background checks. they went through with bump stocks but pulled back on other issues. the democrats are going to pass some things but aren't going to get out of the house. >> i don't think much has changed on the national level in terms of political divide or the conversation. i think things have changed on the state level. the politics are different. we saw their previous governor,
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rick scott change the tenor of the way to talk about it and run successfully a republican candidate for the senate since he's not senator rick scott. i think florida changed and perhaps some other states, the way republicans are talking about this. on the national level, i don't think it's had a really impact. >> florida is among the 26 states, passed 67 gun laws. they are mixed, red states and blue states. it's a mix, florida and louisiana among the red states that passed the laws. you can see the others. obviously, when there's a tragedy like this, the country as a moment. as time passes, opinions change. the president is a prime example of this case, what he said in the days after and where he is now. this is the npr poll. gun restriction should be strict. 71%. a year later, down to 51%.
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>> i think we should give these kids at parkland a lot of credit for really being bold and not backing down, even in their grief from whatever they wanted to do. we saw it on both sides of the issue. there were some students who were part of the marches in favor of gun control. others were trying to have a slightly different conversation like the president wanted to have about teachers or resource officers within a school. but, this is one of the rare times when, really a tragedy like this produced a group of people who were a part of the tragedy wanting to be engaged in the political process. i don't think the story is really over, yet. over time, these views diminish and they go back to the average, what we have seen over the years, 51%. i think we can't really call this a done deal. for the first time, we are seeing a group of people who are really in it for the long haul, trying to push maybe the
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democratic party first. >> i think it's great, whatever your views, whether you agree or disagree with the specifics advocated by the survivors. they are activists. wherever you are on the issue, get involved. will anything change? if you look at the democratic presidential field, a lot of democrats say because of the 2018 house wins in the suburbs with younger voters, they feel more comfortable talking about this issue on a national platform. for years, the democrats pulled back because if you look at the trump map, pennsylvania, wisconsin and michigan tricky. >> it will be a debate among the democratic party. you will see the house lead the way on having hearings, the first hearing since 2007 on gun safety issues. i think that democrats in the presidential field will follow that. but, as you mentioned, you know, a year since parkland, it's been
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six years since newtown, which triggered a similar amount of political activism and attempt to. yet, at the federal level, there's been nothing done. i think there's a presidential type debate that elevates the issue and changes the national discussion. you know, any sign of light at the end of the tunnel for activists is dim. >> it's difficult for them to avoid this. the house is moving forward with legislation. they just passed the universal background check legislation out of committee. they are going to put it on the floor and over to the senate. we have to see what happens there. they have to go on the record one way or the other, whether they are for the restrictions ornd. >> it will be interesting. thanks for joining us. brianna keeler starts after a quick break. 300 miles an hour,
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