our weekly look at the story behind the story of how the media works. how the news gets made and how all of us can help make it better. this hour, brand new reporting from chicago pd. plus meet the man who stopped an attack on the media at trump's rally. and guess what? he's a big trump supporter. and later this area, new developments in an arrest of one of time's people of the year. first, what does president trump do when he loses? he changes the subject. and he's doing that again this weekend. we upping his dangerous rhetoric

calling the media the enemy of the people just days after the attack at the rally in el paso. he also went onto criticize saturday night live and suggest there should be retribution. i can't wait to get into that with our panel in a minute. by any standard or measure, as you look at what happened with the border -- the budget wall compromise, with the president having the rambling rose garden speech, with his mixing it up with the press again, it has been a week of losses for the president. there's a new loss this weekend. the fox host turned state department spokeswoman withdrawing her name for consideration for u.n. ambassador. there's a lot to discuss. i'd like to bring in four people to talk about it. phillip bump of the washington post. kaitlyn dickerson, bill carter, and susan hennesy. let's go through the news and

distractions. let's start with the news and then trump's distractions. phillip, when you look at the week of a national emergency, what do we interpret? what is the president's media strategy? >> his strategy is sort of par or the course, keep appealing to his base. it was sort of striking to see on friday when he was making this announcement of a national emergency that he spent about 5 minutes beforeland making the case for his presidency broadly. i was in iowa in 2015 when he came to the state fair. i asked how are you going to work with congress. he said i make deals. the same way i did in new york city with the zoning board. that was a ridiculous comment. it was 2015. it didn't seem like he was going to be president. now he is. he sees working with congress is harder than he thought. and what we saw this week was a loss in congress. he has to make it up to his base. he comes out of the gates and says we're winning on china and trade and the economy and slides in later this national emergency. >> most of his big e supporter

in the press are with him thanks to the national emergency stuff. >> hannity came out saying the shutdown deal was no good. we had reporting trump called him. then hannity is on board. we're seeing this is something that has consistently been a successful strategy for trump. it's appealed to emotion he makes to his base. that's what he did on friday. >> alternate reality. kate ly kaitlyn, what facts do you feel need to be more front and center in the ongoing fight? >> for starters, what's true is illeg illegal immigration to the united states is down. the need for this wall is incredibly hard to justify at this point. even border patrol agents have said they don't need a wall. i talk to them often about what they like. they want more technology and drones and more centers on the ground. they don't want a physical ground. another fact people are forgetting is a lot of people arriving at the border are walking right up to immigration

agents and asking for asylum. a wall does nothing to change that. while i think there's a way in which declaring this national emergency plays into what trump's supporters like about him, at a certain point we'll have to reckon with the fact that there's really not a whole lot of need for a wall and it's a huge expense that's hard to justify. >> i think it's sad when the president denies his own government's data that you've been describing here so well. let's go to one other topic, one other real news story before the distractions. that's for susan. the news about heather nowert withdrawing her nomination? she was going to be become u.n. ambassador. >> there was a question about her being nominated and if he was qualified. i think she's done an admirable job as the state department spokeswoman. that was a really difficult role. not clear why -- how that role would make her qualified for

being the u.n. ambassador. in fact, she was so transparent si not qualified some suspected her nomination was an effort to sideline the u.n. by this administration. that said, the reports now is that she's withdrawing herself from consideration because of an issue related to her nanny's visa. someone who was in the country legally but didn't have the proper work permit. we've seen this happen before in this white house, the lack of vetting, sort of throwing a name out there for important positions to be confirmed by the senate, and then later figuring out if people can be confirmed. that said, it's baffling trying to understand what this white house views as disqualifying and not. this is the white house that employed steve bannon. past issues with racism or sexism, individuals with documented spousal abuse. all of that was fine, but suddenly this sort of nanny visa issue, that's a firm line for them? >> there must have been more that we don't know yet, but this apparently was one of the

factors. from those stories and other loss for the president to diversions. the snl tweet, i guess he didn't like baldwin on snl. the president tweeted how do these networks get away with total republican hit jobs without retribution. it's unfair and should be looked into. this is the real collusion. bill? you've covered snl for decades. >> what does he mean? it brings back nixon. i giuess he would have pulled their licenses. right now retribution sounds like he's calling for action. and who is going to commit the action? his base? i mean -- >> that's what he always does. he complains and doesn't do anything about it. he threatens nbc and doesn't do anything about it. >> it shows he's watching. he must have watched it live. he used to say i don't watch this stuff. if you watch that whole bit,

about 90% of it was basically repeating what he did in the rose garden. the satire was only slightly a twist on the actual words he said. >> given the losses, the president has tried to change the subject. snl is one example. another example is the narrative on fox news about an attempted coupe against trump. this is based on mccabe's new book and the talk that there was 25th amendment talk. coop, all over fox news. >> a top coop. >> for lack of a better word, a coup. >> an open coup. >> essentially a coup. >> it have essentially a coup. >> it's even reached some of the president's family members. what are they talking about? >> they're saying this report from the new book that there was a conversation within the justice department shortly after the firing of james comey to look at the 25th amendment. it allows the president to be

removed if half his cabinet agrees he should be removed or they establish a congressional commission that looks at it. it's a coup that necessitates half the people he appointed and mike pence coming on board and saying yes, he should be removed from office. if rosenstein and mccabe can convince those people of doing that, it's hard to see it as a coup. >> there are people inside the government with concerns about the president's behavior and his stability. there's also spouses of white house aides concerned. take a look at this from kellyanne conway's husband. this is the husband of one of the president's top aides saying the people should be concerned about trump's mental stability. i think we can put the tweet on screen. he's reacting to the report. conway is saying we should highly question the mental stability of a president of the united states who would lie about something like that.

bill carter, your reaction? >> well, conway has really been outspoken. he obviously is not being restrained by the fact that his wife works for the president of the united states. and if he's saying that, you have to wonder if she supporting that? does she contradict him at home or is she saying yeah, this is a legitimate thing to say? >> i think we can show what kellyanne conway has said about this in the past. she's made comments when journalists bring up concerns. here's something she's said about that in the past. >> there's no good comes out of people attacking the president's physical and mental state. >> that's a conversation between husband and wife. but there is one other white house spouse i want to bring up. that's darla shine, the wife of bill shine, the white house's top communications chief. and she's been tweeting once again these horrible things about vaccines. she's been posting anti-vaccination messages amid the measles outbreak in the united states.

how concerning is this to you that darla shine, the wife of bill shine, continues to spread this dangerous material? >> it's sort of baffling, but i think -- we see this sort of action a lot from random people on social media. >> that's right. random people share this stuff all the time. >> it shows a lack of con wh conscientiousness about her position. we started out talking about how fox news is covering donald trump's announcement. we just talked about fox news again. bill shine, former director of fox news. there is a thread that we have this media institution which is more than willing to say what it is that trump wants to hear. i think that is a problem even more broadly than darla shine. >> kaitlyn, you're above the fray. you try to stay out of this. you're covering the news, but isn't it true all the people, whether it's the president or darla shine, they have access to the best possible information? the president has access to the

best information, but he doesn't always believe it. >> it's true. i think what you're seeing is this precedent that starts right at the top with president trump which is that you can say what you feel. you can see what you think. you don't necessarily have to say what's true. and what's bjorn oorne out by everyday. when you're seeing that from your toss, you feel empowered to do the same thing. it's not that it's accepted. it's almost supported. it's a good idea, and paem lieo like it. >> tone starts from the top. >> everybody, thank you. a quick break here and then a brand new update from the chicago pd on justin smolette. did he make it all up? billions of mouths.

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an update on justin smollett. the actor who may have staged a hate crime in chicago. there are reports in the last 24 hours he may have orchestrated the assault he said happened against him on the streets of chicago a few weeks ago. the actor on "empire" denies this. the investigation is moving in the intersection of some sort of hoax. a spokesman for the chicago pd tells me that as of this morning, they have not yet been able to speak with smollett about the new allegations. remember, it's the two men questioned who provided new evidence to the police. that's why they said we need to speak to you again as soon as possible. here we are sunday morning.

the police have not spoken with him again. he's lawyered up. it seems like a stand off between police and smollett. here's an important detail. a spokesman telling me as soon as this is said and done we're going to lay out every detail of this investigation. the police trying to acknowledge the frustration a lot of people feel about this case, trying to say we're going to get to the bottom of it and explain it as soon as we can. but right now they're waiting to hear back from justin smollett. he was on good morning a couple days ago telling his side of the story. it was his first tv interview. he was speaking with robin roberts and claiming that two men accosted him. they described themselves as trump supporters and tried tiede around his neck. now that it's in question and people are doubting his story, let's talk about it with our

guests. camille, what's your reaction to how this story has unfolded and evolves? >> i think there were a lot of reasons for skepticism from early on. if this had happened in the way that it was described, it would have been extraordinary, and what we're seeing now, however, as the story starts to degrade a bit is i do think a lot of frustration on many sides, and even some cheering on other sides. because there was a lot of rush to judgment. i mean, i think a lot -- >> from who? >> i think in a lot of speculative controversies where the media is reporting on a story early when we don't know much, folks have to go with what we suppose. what we knew was the president supporters are racist. of course, there's a desire almost about a story like this. we're not sufficiently skeptical when we're confronted with facts that don't really seem to fit together too well. 2 a.m. in the morning. almost the coldest night of the year you were attacked and someone conveniently had a rope?

my heart goes out to anyone who gets attacked, but it's appropriate to exercise a bit of skepticism and exercise patience in waiting for the facts to develop around the story. this story looks different than what most people suspected. >> the narrative was set so early on. tmz first heard about the alleged attack. they were the first to say they heard the quote, from a quote close to justin. immediately there were political steaks to the story. do you think that distorted it? >> right. the quote, i remember reading about the story and looking for a real reputable media outlet reporting on that. i could not find one. the people who were repeating that quote were not news outlets, media outlets. it was repeated by people who maybe had good intentions of wanting to spread the story. we can't confuse celebrity tweets with the media and the press. >> so you're saying actors and

activists who were rushing to his side because they were friends with him and they support him are not the same as chicago reporters who are trying to find out what happened? >> exactly. it is different. and we don't know what happened, but we know that racism is alive and well in this country. home phob hoem phobia is alive and well in this country. the president and his rhetoric has been cited by people who -- there is real evidence of people who have done the crimes that cite that the president has inspired them. it's a trend. >> there is part of the problem. we're establishing the problem. >> when you say it's alive and well, there is far less racism toad than there has been. >> against muslims. >> when we talk about hate crimes, 15% increases in these things. a hate crime is not the sort of thing we simply look at and it is positively a hate crime.

there's some supposition about that. >> you believe the fbi? they're not an expert? >> there's some supposition about hate crime. define it. define hate speech. there's a great deal of ambiguity about what makes something a hate crime. >> most of them are -- >> smollett did, if he lied, he's hurt real victims of hate crime. >> absolutely. >> we can agree on that. i wonder, bill, if you think the good morning america interview was too soft on him. even by the time he sat down with robin roberts, there were doubts. >> she had to press that, and she didn't. he's a celebrity. he's an actor. that was a celebrity interview more than a news person interview. instead of getting to the facts, it was more about him and his -- the effects on him. >> interesting. >> instead of what happened? it was not a news interview. he didn't do a news interview. the media was not able to

question him closely about this. and when they did, his story started to fall apart because it was full of red flags. >> it contributed in a sense among trump supporters that there is this campaign against them. >> exactly. >> and we can see it in donald trump junior's tweets from the past 12 hours. look, donald trump junior is a hammer. everything he sees is a nail. and everything is about attacking the media. he'll attack the media no matter what, but he's attacking it today because he says the press fell for this. i wonder how much of that we should acknowledge. >> at a minimum, there were people who i've talked to people off camera and in green rooms who were skeptical and had questions about the story, were afraid to raise the questions because of the nature of this particular accusation, and there are plenty of circumstances like that. that is something we have to be aware of. when there are stories that involve sensitive issues of race and sexuality and there are accusations and allegations being made, when you raise

questions about those allegations, it is often the case that people will raise questions about your motivations. >> huh. >> really. >> i am -- >> why do you think. >> the merit of a charge, and at the end of the day it's whether or not that charge has merit that matters. and robin robins had an opportunity to say there are practical reasons for someone to ask questions about something like this that have nothing to do with your race our sexuality. she didn't do that, and there are far too many instances where serious journalists aren't doing that. >> trohat's true. >> and others will have to be held to account. >> exactly. they jumped too early. that's where the real fault lies. you can't use your ideology and impose it on a story like this. you'll get burned. >> as of a couple days ago, fox was standing by. smollett saying he has the network's support.

no new comment from fox. they've gone silent on this. liz, last word on -- i mean, at the heart of a sad case, no matter what. >> absolutely. i think it's important to cover this story. i also think it's important to cover the other several stories of hate crimes. not to say this was a story of a hate crime. there are real hate crimes that happen in this country, and there's an increase in them against black people, against lgbtq people and muslims. and the fact that one robbery was faked does not mean robbery is not a problem. we have to cover the issues as trends and patterns and not fall into the trap that because one story is not real that the problem is not real. >> or maybe not give the celebrities all the attention. >> absolutely. >> thank you so our panel. after a quick break here, we're talking about roger stone. we'll unpack his ridiculous lies about this network. plus the view of the mueller investigation from moscow.

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former fbi deputy director andr andrew mccabe says every day in the trump presidency brings a new low with the president disclosing himself as a new deliberate liar who will say whatever he pleases to get whatever he wants. that's a taste of his new book tour. his new book "the threat "comes out on tuesday. keep in mind there are questions about mccabe's credibility since he himself was fired for allegedly lying to government

invest guyatorgators. he's on tv in the coming days. we are joined now from moscow. and susan is back with us in d.c. julia, since you're there, i'm curious about what russians hear about the american probe into russian interference? what did they hear about the mueller probe? >> reporter: it's a good question, but they hear pretty much nothing. when it comes to, for example, this explosive interview that andrew mccabe gave and the reviews we're reading in the american press, it's hardly registering at all in moscow or in the rest of russia. and you have to understand that if the russian government were to publicize it in any way or any of the twists and turns of the mueller investigation and the evidence and the indictments it's turned up so far, it would give kcredence that russia helpd elect our president.

even the russians who are opposed to vladimir putin and able to access some of our news sources, they acknowledge that there was some kind of interference, but they think we've all basically most russians think we've gone crazy and whipped ourself into a lather over nothing. >> interesting. meanwhile every week there are new developments. this week a judge rule -- stone has been claiming cnn was tipped off to the road on his home last month. he's saying it and trying to raise money off the lie. he said it in a new court file where he's trying to get the judge to take the lie seriously. i suppose now that he's under the gag order he can't say it anymore. what are his motives? is it about raising money for his legal defense? >> i think it's about a general distraction technique, attempting to paint himself as the victim rather than having people focus on the underlying

substantive conduct and whether or not he was in communication with wikileaks, why and more importantly, what information he might have shared with the president and his associates. this is sort of an effort to say this is the real story. this is the ways in which i've been victimized. it is -- it's important to note that roger stone himself is actually not gagged by this order. this order actually prevents roger stone's lawyers from making comments about the case. stone isn't able to give comments from the courthouse steps. because there are substantial first amendment issues with a gag order, the judge tried to be restrained here and essentially say direct to roger stone, i'm trying to tell you for your own good, for your own sake, not to go out there and speak, but even under this order, the roger stone wants to continue to spread conspiracy theories, this doesn't prevent him from doing that. >> i see. we hear more about this. in the meantime, there's so much

confusion, and we can see it in the new washington post poll, about what mueller has found so far, what he's proven so far. look at this, for example. most democrats think mueller has proved that members of the trump campaign lied about contacts with the russians. obviously they did lie about contact with the russians but most republicans don't believe it. to folks who say what is taking so long? why haven't we gotten to the bottom of it, and once the report comes out, people aren't going to believe it anyway, what do you say to the skeptics? >> reporter: in some ways it mirrors with the russian approach. show us the evidence. well, not that evidence. show us evidence. that doesn't count either. give us evidence. the more it comes out, the less it counts. and i think the president and people like roger stone getting back to this conspiracy theory, he's spreading about cnn, it's all about undermining the very premise of the investigation about who is doing the investigation. you know?

donald trump constantly saying mueller and his 13 angry democrats. so when it comes out, you know, you can say well, that doesn't count. that doesn't count, therefore, the president and his people are cleared of it, even though they are. >> it reminds me of the book "nothing is true and everything is possible". and i really hope that's not where we are in america. thank you both so much. coming up, the story you have nod heard about this disturbance at trump's rally. meet the man who intervened when the press was attacked. he's coming up next. get out of it? ant as whatu our broccoli cheddar is made with aged melted cheddar, simmered broccoli, and no artificial flavors. enjoy 100% clean soup today. panera. food as it should be. you asked for something ground-breaking. something epic. so, we took all our engineering experience... a hundred years-worth of learning from impossible projects

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was the one who intervened. retraining the regress sor and muscling him off the media platform. you can see him bringing the man out of the press bin, bringing him to security. it's ben, a conservative radio host and live streamer from california. he was covering the rally in texas that day. he's joining me live now. ben, hats off to you. without you, this bad situation would have been worse. what did you see happen? >> so i heard a noise first. i was up there filming. i looked to my right. i heard a commotion, and i started seeing cameras falling down and people falling over. i saw a guy running toward me or falling, tumbling toward me with a hat on. i just at first -- it took me a second to figure out what was going on. then i realized he was the aggressor. someone needed to stop him. >> why did you decide to be the one and restrain him in. >> well, i agree with president trump's sentiment that there is a lot of fake news out there,

but what i told him too as i was taking him off the stage was it's not all fake news. i'm up here, front line america and what we have going on. we're up here. there's a lot of other important news outlets out there. it doesn't do any good. what he was doing just made trump look bad. i was glad that i was there with the hat and the trump -- as a trump supporter to be able to retrain him and say idiot, stop doing this. you make us look stupid. >> thankfully he was escorted out. he was removed and trump did ask to make sure things were okay after. do you think that his enemy of the people rhetoric causes people to commit these kinds of acts of violence? >> no. i don't. i think the -- i think what president trump calls fake news tends to be fake news. i think there is a growing concern in the public with what's coming out of the media, and president trump is just tapping into that. i don't think trump has ever

called for violence against the media. i don't think he ever will. people need to be held accountable for their words, especially in the media, especially with the protections that are given through the arrest amendmenfirst amendment. we have to be careful what what we say? >> what do you mean? that's the contradiction of the first amendment, isn't it? >> well, i should say we should be careful with the accuracy of what we say. if we're intentionally using misleading things. look at the last couple years of attacks on our president. whether or not you like him or don't, there has been a lot of false information out there. you could say on both sides. i think he's right. i support president trump, and i don't think he has called for violence. i don't see him inciting violence. i think there was one crazy person. i don't know who the guy is. i want to find out who was wearing the hat that still had the tag on it. i'm still concerned about that. >> there were suggestions that he was a plant. it sounds like you might think he was. >> i don't know. i always -- i always -- until i

have the everyday, i'm not going to say. i did see it was coordinated with the other demonstrations going on. the timing, it was right at the end. it was the most -- had the biggest impact, an it tends to line up with the media narrative. if you were going to plant somebody, that would have been a great place to do it, but until we have evidence of that, i wouldn't say that. >> ben, i appreciate you being here. i'm starting to wonder if we're going to need more security at the rallies. what do you think? >> yeah. that was -- the take away from that was -- the fact he could get up there so easily, i think we need to consider how we barricade the areas off and make sure that everybody at the event is protected. >> yeah. ben, thank you for being here. i appreciate it. iwant to mention there was another physical altercation involving members of the media later in washington. police on capitol hill blocked and pushed reporters to keep them from interviewing senators during the budget vote.

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for many years maria ressa ran cnn's coverage. now he's the ceo and executive editor of the philippine website the rappler. there she was a few months ago on the cover of time, one of the people of the year. honoring her work supporting press freedom p and demanding

independent news coverage in the philippines. this week she spent a night in jail. the result of a cyber libel charge for an old article on her website. this is the latest example of what she calls political harassment. he's joining me live now. maria, what happened the other day? >> agents of the national bureau of investigation, that's our version of the fbi came to our office, and issued an arrest warrant and demanded that i go with them to be processed and arrested. it was a shock. >> they've been doing this for over a year. right? they've been doing various things to try to threaten you. you've been indicted. was this the first time you've been thrown in jail? >> the first time and for the most ludicrous charge. it's cyber libel. an article we published seven years ago before the law that we supposedly violated was even

enacted. so it's -- they're applying a law retroactively. it's unconstitutional, and that's part of what is shocking about all of this. the lawyers of the national bureau of investigation threw this case out, did not recommend it move forward. and yet, a week later there it was at the department of justice and an arrest warrant issued. >> what do you believe is behind all of this harassment by the government? >> i think it's definitely intimidation. for me to spend one night in detention, did they want me to feel the power of the state? i definitely feel it. in less than two months i've had to post bail six times on ludicrous charges, but this one in particular is the worst. i came out of that night thinking this is now a travesty of justice. >> and when the president of the philippines says, you know, i have nothing to do with this, do you believe that?

do you believe him? >> i think you have to -- actions speak louder than words. this particular case was filed against me by a businessman. well, against me and rappler and the people who actually wrote it and had something to do with it. all our board of directors were in a cyber libel case. in the end the arrest warrant was issued to me. i was taken in to detention, and yet, a day and a half later the person who actually wrote it was able to post bail. not that i would want him to go through what i went through. again, it shows you so many irregularities. the government seemed bent on making sure i spent the night and was processed as a criminal. again, if they think that will scare me, all it does is give me firsthand experience of how lfa

they'll bend the law against perceived enemies? >> your website is rappler.com. journalists have been concerned about these attempts by the government to shut you up. what's your message to other journalists around the world who find themselves in similar situations where press feed ms a -- freedoms i think for me it is about impunity. the last time i was there with you we talked about impunity of the government and the brutal killings happening in the philippines as well in punity on social media. journalists are getting squashed on the online attacks on social media that is manipulating reality. we have got to fight it back. >> we sure do.

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likefully millennial start up. >> yeah. we can show you on the screen. >> and the content was pretty critical of the u.s. government and u.s. mainstream media but nothing that would be out of the ordinary. >> u.s. policy abdomnd stuff li that? >> yeah. we did find that the company, which set up these pages over the past six months began employeeing people in los a angeles was backed. 51% was owned by russia today. the other half was yoebowned by presenter. >> why are they spending money to create videos to get you and me to watch them? >> it is certainly a good way of pushing forward and getting viral videos. >> they make us hate each other

even more. is that right? >> you watch these videos. a lot of them are making points with real plerns. we know that is what they do. i guess what's interesting about this program is that we have seen the coverse russian trolls in 2016. we know of the over russia etcetera that's operating here in the u.s. these were sort of in a gray area. they weren't necessarily hiding. ? they wrn really hiding but kind of hiegd. >> yes. if you were to start googling the pages you could quickly sort of work it back to see.

did facebook say they violated a policy? >> no. that's a problem as well. they didn't say they were backed but there isn't a rule in place that says you have to do that. after it was made as a foreign agent you tube did make a policy that there's a disclaimer saying it is in some what funded. facebook haven't brought there those sort of labeling requirements. we asked facebook, we asked them in the context of these pages, do you guys have any labeling policy, any plans for doing that? >> we actually asked the questions on wednesday.

>> so they have thinking about it. it is pill tioliticians that ar alerting to these problems. they say you're allowing a lot of information on facebook and facebook says they are considering how to reduce to spread of anti-vaccine comments. so it feels like facebook is making it up as they go along. >> they are constantly telling us how many people they have hired, all of the steps they have taken to combat election meddling. you're right. something like disinformation is something that's been going on for years. >> it's been going on for years. it does feel like they are trying to figure it out as they go along. full story on cnn.com. a programming note, monday night cnn having its next town hall.

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