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is being pushed forward too quickly. it would be a big step if it does happen. >> certainly would be. let's see what they decide at the end of the summit in hanoi. thanks for join us with that, michelle kosinski. i'm wolf blitzer in the situation room. "outfront" starts right now. president trump accuses his deputy attorney general of treasonous acts. illegal or just doing his job? roger stone attacks the judge in his case, posting a photo of her with crosshairs next to her head. what he's saying about the image. joe biden appears to answer the question so many are asking, will he or won't he run? let's go "outfront." good evening, everyone. i'm kate bolduan in or erin burnett. tonight, treason or cautious deliberation? that's the question after president trump accused his own deputy attorney general of
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planning illegal acts. why? because according to former acting director an draw mccabe, he and rod rosenstein seriously discussed wearing a wire to record the president and invoking the 25th amendment to remove him from office. >> discussion of the 25th amendment was simply rod raised the issue and discussed it with me in the context of thinking about how many other cabinet officials might support such an effort. the deputy attorney general offered to wear a wire into the white house. he said, i never get searched. now, he was not joking. he was absolutely serious, and in fact he brought it up in the next meeting we had. >> to that, the president called mccabe disgraced and deranged. then accusing those two top officials of quote, planning a very illegal act and got caught. this was the illegal and treasonous insurance policy in
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full action, says the president on twitter this morning. to be clear, mccabe and rosenstein might disagree on what and how was discussed but they definitely agree they did not act on anything. even so, the president today seems to be taking his cues from a conservative ally in fox news, quoting him with this -- this was an illegal coup attempt on the president of the united states. to which the president writes, true. laura, rosen too inis already on his way out the door in a sense of the word at the justice department. he's long been planning to leave after the new a.g. arrived. what does all this mean for rosenstein answer exit? >> the deputy attorney general has been here before, somehow weathering the mccabe storm when it seemed like his days were frankly numbered. as we reported rosenstein wants to help the transition for his successor. but the president's displeasure was clearly on display today.
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we know bill barr picked will rosen the transportation secretary to serve as his deputy, his number two at doj. also, no word tonight from rosenstein on mccabe's interview. but the justice department's statements on his behalf consistently tried to focus on what rosenstein did or didn't do as opposed to what might have been discussed. one source telling me when rosenstein wearing the wire, the idea of that came up it was just due to sarcasm, but mccabe adamant on "60 minutes" it was no laughing matter at all. senator graham, the chairman of the house judiciary committee suggesting he'll subpoena mccabe and rosenstein if necessary. with me now, john dean. former assistant for the department of the homeland security under president obama
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juliette cayenne and james trusty, a long time friend of the aforementioned rod rosenstein. >> john, president trump is accusing both mccabe and rosenstein essentially of treason. i'm paraphrasing but i don't think i'm going too far. this is from the president of the united states. i know we see a lot of tweets. i know the president says a lot of things. i know we are in a different time, but the president of the united states, accusing these two top officials of treasonous acts. what do you do with that? >> it's absolutely absurd. it shows the man, one, has no knowledge of what actually treason. is secondly he thinks like a monarch. somehow these people have made a bad act against him is equivalent with a bad act against the country. and they don't equate that way. treason is not defined as an attack on a president. this is no coup these people were planning. this is a president who really
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doesn't have a good grip on reality at times. >> juliette, i mean, is talk of invoking the 25th amendment or wearing a wire to record a conversation with the president a serious thing? absolutely! i'll answer it for you. while they don't agree on how these conversations took place, both agree none of it went anywhere. is there anything illegal about this? >> no. and they'll disagree about the tone. certainly nothing illegal about the 25th amendment. the constitution envisioned its own out clause for the president. i just want to put everyone back to where these two men were. so nonpolitical men. mccabe and rosenstein, and the magnets around them. be the time they're having this conversation, the president has rejected or ignored evidence that his first national security adviser adviser mike flynn may be a russian asset. he rejects calls to fire him. he's gotten rid of salaly yates
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who told him about flynn. he's mocking jeff sessions his attorney general for recusing himself from the investigation. he's fired comey. he's undermined his intelligence community's assessment of the russian influence in the campaign and -- right, all along he's undermining the investigation. so to me, the fact that they're having this conversation is actually not that shocking. we are just forgetting what it was like in those months, and to have a president like that, you know, with the scope and the depth of the can haves and lies that he's having with the russians, you know, the 25th amendment seems like the least of the conversations they should have been having. >> and that is really saying something. james you've known rosenstein for years. you saw his interview with mccabe. let me play you what mccabe says about rosenstein and wearing a wire. listen to this. if. >> he said, i never get searched
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when i go into the white house. i could easily wear a recording device. they wouldn't know it was there. he was not joking. he was absolutely serious. in fact he brought it up in the next meeting we had. i never actually considered taking him up on the offer. >> he says rosenstein brought it up not once but twice. rosenstein through the justice department deny it by saying the deputy attorney general never authorized any recording that mr. mccabe references. >> can they both be right? >> i think it's pretty unlikely. i don't want try to psychoanalyze mccabe, but i don't think we should gloss over the differences between what rod or the doj said and what mccabe said. that enmoose you to assess credibility. this is a situation where rod rosenstein says it didn't happen. at best maybe there was sarcasm. i don't think mccabe is so sluggish to the idea of sarcasm
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that he couldn't guess it, but he's got serious credibility problems. he's hawking a kiss and tell book as a disgraced former official and he's flailing around partly at trump and others to bring them down. >> the way the doj writes about it it's that he didn't authorize any actions. do you dismiss they had real conversations? >> there's earlier statements that came out that said at best there was something that was said sarcastically. part of this is knowing rod rosenstein. he is not so foolish as to think the 25th amendment was in play. he's also not so crazy to think he's going wear a wire into the white house. these just do not ring true as anybody to knows rod as a constitutional scholar, a serious career prosecutor for many years. it rings like somebody who's selling a book, worried about
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criminal charges and has a history. >> john, let me play you something else mccabe said in this interview, that when considering whether or not to appoint the special counsel, rosenstein wanted to get advice from jim comey about it. listen. >> he raised the issue with me twice, and ultimately i told him that i wasn't comfortable connecting him with jim comey, that i didn't think jim should weigh in on these things. >> why not? >> because he was no longer a member of the government and it would have been improper having him weigh in. >> the justice department in a statement on this one said rosenstein never spoke to comey about appointing a special counsel. that doesn't seem to be really the question from what you hear from mccabe. why from your perspective, john, why would rosenstein want comey's advice after all that had gone down?
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>> well, you know, i don't know. we don't know what was actually said. it's all hearsay we are getting trying to piece this back together. i can only imagine that here's a man who's never been at the level of deputy attorney general, who's never appointed a special counsel before, and if he did in fact want to talk to comey, he's got a more seasoned partner to sort of the bounce it around with. mccabe was right, though, and obviously rosenstein didn't do it and that was wise not too because it would have made it look more cluollusive the undertaking. we don't know to this day how mueller's name was selected. i've never seen any press on where that came from. obviously they did the right thing in the process here. so these are possible what ifs we are looking at. juliette looking forward, this
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is getting a lot of attention in the public and on capitol hill. lindsey graham is making it clear he is not done with this when it comes to the 25th amendment and the whole concept of wearing a wire. let me play you what he said yesterday. >> the whole point of congress existing is to provide oversight to the executive branch so i promise your viewers the following -- that we will have a hearing about who's telling the truth, what actually happened. >> will you subpoena mccabe and rosenstein to appear? >> how can i not if that's what it takes. >> graham thinks mccabe and rosenstein could be in real trouble here. juliette, do you think they could be? >> i don't know. graham and the president spend a lot of time attacking critics. never suggesting the investigation could exonerate the president. if i were rosenstein or mccabe i
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would say bring it on. lindsey graham is not going do it because he has no idea what motivated either man to act that way. it's going to be something not complimentary to the president of the united states. i think this is all graham doing his bidding for donald trump. we have a tendency to think of people as good or bad. you know, one side or the other. i think this is a perfect example as james was saying, in which motivations are really odd in these cases. mccabe, rosenstein, comey, all of them. i think part of what mueller's clearly doing is trying to get out of the psychology of these men and maybe the competition among them to try to get to the facts. mccabe has some background. rosenstein was responsible or at least wrote the memo to fire comey. nobody's perfect. they're under tremendous pressure. that's why you have a second
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arbiter on this stuff. >> i know you agree it was the president that made the final decision on the firing of jim comey. of the officials -- fbi director jim comey had his say after being fired writing a book and doing a tour. andrew mccabe had his sbeih he's writing a book. rod rosenstein is leaving soon. do you think he wants to have his say after he leaves after all this? >> if he does i want to be his agent, but i don't think so. he's the kind of guy that's were long run historical minded so i don't think he's a big fan of kiss and tell contemporaneous account of events. i could be wrong, but my guess is he'll move on to the next job with the same kind of what i would call quiet dignity he has now and he's not going run around and try to be his own advocate or sell books. this is a pretty extraordinary
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situation on a lot of levels but twha that top fbi officials are doing kiss and tell books is a rare moment in history. i think a lot of people would agree with me. up next, breaking news -- roger stone just submitting an apology to his judge after posting an image of her with crosshairs next to her head. will the apology be enough to keep him out of more legal trouble. plus, several states are about to see the trump administration over the president's emergency declaration, but do they have a case? did the white house really push japan to nominate president trump for the nobel peace prize? about 50% of people with evesevere asthma k?
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sarah it seems you often can't guess what the next turn is going to be. stone realizes the implications because he's taken it back a couple of times now. what is he doing now? >> reporter: so much to explain. there were two separate photos of the judge with explanations saying this is being misinterpreted. then another explanation saying that's not a crosshairs that's the logo of the website where we got this photo, and now it seems stone or perhaps someone on his legal team realized this could be a very big legal problem and get him in more trouble. he formally apologized to the court, to the judgment quote, the photo was improper and shouldn't have been posted. i had no intention of disrespecting the court and humly apologize to the court. he's apologizing to the court and hoping this judge, who she
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is tough, is in the going look at the rules of his bail and say, he can not handle himself out of jail. maybe he should await trial in a cell. she did that with paul manafort but that was for witness tamperingle we'll see. >> like donald trump, roger stone not one to apologize, so you see he really realizes it tonight. thank you so much. now an attorney for the southern district of new york and david gergen, advise tore four presidents. harry, when the judge finds out about this, apology included, twhas possible fallout? >> i think the way stone handled it by taking down the offending image and then submitting this apology will minimize the likely fallout. it's possible he'll get a warning. it's possible that he'll have to come to court and explain how this happened and promise not to do it again. i would be surprised just as a
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matter of my own experience, if he were actually put in. as we just mentioned a moment ago, when manafort was detained he was detained because of witness tampering which is more serious than this very, very bad instagram post. >> poor choice is i think not even close to what we should say about it. david, the president of the united states attacks judges on the judicial branch with relative regularity if they don't decide in his favor. we have seen this over and over again. i guess, on any level should anyone be surprised roger stone, his ally, confidant, adviser wanted to walk down. >> you might think he would consider it, but you never think he would do it. because it's an act of such utter stupidity. here he is soon to come before
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this female judge, who is an obama appointee who paul manafort, his friend went before this judge. she threw the book at him. paul manafort could well die in jail. he's a crumpled man. we now heard harrowing tails of what's happening to him in prison, how his life has changed. how lonely, how depressed he is. he doesn't see his family. roger stone must also worry if he doesn't go there, he's seen as something of a dandy. will he be safe? there must be a lot of things going through his mind. oh, my god, what have i got myself into? in light of that, how perfectly odd to even post this thing, especially with that crosshairs, which sent a signal to everybody. everybody on the dark net. got conspiracy theories rolling during the day. how odd he did this. the bigger question is, yz the
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president of the united states over the year surrounded himself with odd people, many of whom are now heading for the slammer? >> harry, you look at the paul manafort case, the gag order that was put in place. you look at the roger stone case, i have been calling it a partial gag order, the circumstances of it. could it change the turn of that? >> i guess it could. the judge might consider placing further restrictions on him, maybe some modified home detention which is something that manafort was sentenced to for a time. it is possible the conditions will be increased. she framed the gag order the same way in the gates and manafort case. you can't say things that would prejudice the administration of justice. maybe she needs to make clear to him in case there's any doubt, this sort of thing would potentially prejudice the administration of justice. this is what we are talking about and you'll be held in
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contempt or worse if you do it again. the speed with which he took it down and submitted this uncurable apology i think for most judges could be taken as an acknowledgement that this person understands they did something terrible and hopefully wouldn't do it again. >> went over the line really quick and tried to run back over the line. i want to ask you about the broader investigation. adam schiff told dana bash this. about evidence of collusion of the trump campaign. >> you can see evidence in plain sight on the issue of collusion, pretty compelling evidence. now, there's a difference between seeing evidence of collusion and being able to prove a criminal conspiracy beyond a reasonable doubt. >> the chair of the senate intelligence committee sees it differently. is schiff trying to move the goalpost with the way he's moving it now? >> i think he is, and what's
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relevant about this is i think he has set a lower bar than the senate has and senator byrd on the senate intelligence side. he set a lower bar for an indictment for an impeachment proceeding. what's important here is that it's the house and schiff himself who is going to be pivotal to deciding how to proceed on a potential impeachment. if he sets a low bar it's based on patterns we, looed at. you just connect up the dots. looks like collusion. where as if he took it to a court of law, the bar would have to be higher. you would have to have serious evidence. i think it's important schiff is setting the bar lower. >> in the end it would be the republicans in the senate in the majority that would decide if the impeachment could proceed. great to see you both. "outfront" next, president trump's national emergency facing a new legal challenge tonight. lost cause or do critics have a
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declaration. caitlin colins is out front. kaitlin the president made clear they were preparing for this, but what are they doing about it? >> reporter: they knew lawsuits were coming. now they're waiting to sit back and see how many lawsuits there are going to be, kate, and what those lawsuits are going argument are they going to say it's an overreach of presidential power or are they going try to argue this isn't a real energy and that president trump said so himself in the rose garden when he said i didn't have do this but i thought i would do it faster. we have seen white house officials go back and try to clarify the president's remarks, including stephen miller saying he was simply saying he was doing something other presidents had not done. he believes it could go all the way to the supreme court and if it does they could rule in his favor. we are going wait into see if it goes that far. if they do agree this is not an
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overreach of his executive powers. >> long road there. that's for sure. out front with me now, one of the attornies general signing on this this lawsuit, the democratic attorney general of north carolina. thank you for being here. >> it's great to be with you. >> why are you joining this lawsuit? >> new mexico is being harmed because the president cannot act like a king. this is taxpayer money and in new mexico we have vital military dollars going to strategic projects that are vital to national security. we are the state that invented and tested the atomic bomb. we don't want to president violating separation of powers by sweeping away vital new mexico dollars that's going military strategy just so he can go and build an immigration project like this wall. >> the president's been preparing for this. we know that. he even said so as he was announcing the emergency declaration.
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let me play this for you. >> we will have a national emergency and we will then be sued, and they will sue us in the ninth circuit even though it shouldn't be there, and we'll possibly get a bad ruling and another bad ruling and then we'll end up in the supreme court and then we'll get a fair shake and hopefully we'll win in the support just like the ban. they sued us in the ninth court and we lost. then we went to the ninth division. and we went to the supreme court and we won. >> with that, do you already anticipate this is going to end up before the supreme court? >> well, i do, quite simply because it's unconstitutional. article 1 is clearly the power of purse resides with the congress. article 2 requires the president to act like a commander in chief and part of that is not misusing the declaration of emergency. i'm confident even on the facts he has to be loyal as a
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commander in chief and only use the declaration of emergency when we have the kind of terrorist attacks like 9/11 or the natural disasters in katri a katrina. you're not allowed as the president to violate the separation of powers. he should be a loyal committed commander in chief. >> the president's comment osen friday when he said, quote, he didn't need to do this, he just wanted to get the wall done faster. is that part of your lawsuit? >> it is. because for instance, where he's sweeping fends i think is going to be very persuasive with the courts. just because a he has a project that he couldn't reconcile with the congress, he does not have the ability to exaggerate an emergency just so he can sweep vital dollars that are going key military projects, key vital drug interdiction strategies.
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new mexico, we have over 100 miles of border and rely heavily on these dollars. >> that's an interesting point. few look at how the travel ban played out in court, the president said all sorts of things that are used in court against him, but in the end the supreme court allowed the 3.0 version of the travel ban to go into effect despite the things that he said, so how is it going to be any different this time when you have the president saying something that seems to go against the case he was trying to make? but it didn't matter in court before. >> that's a great point. but in this case he's talking out of both side of his mouth. clearly he's saying they have an immigration emergency. therefore they need a wall. but in the travel ban, just like in this case he'll have great deference. i'm not arguing he doesn't have to authority to issue a declaration of emergency. what i'm arguing is you're not allowed to abuse the declaration of emergency simply to swipe
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funds that are appropriated by congress for national defense. i think the court will be persuaded by the fact that he's stealing department of defense dollars for an immigration purpose. >> mr. attorney general, thank you so much for coming in. joining this lawsuit to be filed by the close of business today. we'll see where this goes next. thank you so much. out front for us next, amy klobuchar hoping to stand out in 2020 by selling her midwestern values. >> there was a lot of campaigning in wisconsin in 2016. with me, that changes. >> will it work? plus, klobuchar and the other 2020 candidates ripping into president trump tonight. but they're not the only ones talking tough. (clapping)
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you're looking at live pictures out of yufrp, less than three hours away from a cnn town hall with 2020 presidential democratic candidate amy klobuchar hosted by don lemon. it is great to see you both on
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this town hall evening. keith, what do you think amy klobuchar needs to try and get out of the town hall tonight. it's a pretty big opportunity for any candidate. >> i think she needs to stand out and communicate what her message is. i think she had a great kickoff announcement with a snowstorm. no fault of hers. it was a good start. di distinguished her from the other candidates. now she's got do that -- what is her policy she wants to put forward? why is she different from the other 50,000 candidates running? >> in the early days that's really what it's about. klobuchar is from minnesota. as we like to say she speaks midwestern. she is also making it clear repeatedly she is not going to ignore voters in the midwest
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this time around. just take a look at this. >> what i've decided to do in our state and what i do all around the country is i run this campaign, go places that maybe we didn't focus on enough in the last few years, and that includes our rural areas. i think we are starting in wisconsin because as you remember there wasn't a lot of campaigning in wisconsin in 2016. with me that, changes. >> midwestern states, wisconsin, michigan -- we have gone over this a million times. >> i'm from the midwest as well. >> are you from indiana? i am as well. sorry, keith u you're not involved in this conversation anymore. with those at roos, that ability, the focus from klobuchar, do you think in some ways she could be more of a threat to trump than any of the front-runner candidates from the coast? >> the thing you have to ask yourself though is she endorsed the green new dealle you're
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going go to the midwest with a war on cows. that will sell really well in wisconsin. with a war on automobile manufacturing. not going sell well in the midwest. these are policies they're embracing early on and that's not going sell well in the midwest and places the president did well. >> she has won election in the midwest so i think she knows more about what's going to sell and what's not going to sell. in michigan it was 10,700 votes. 22,000 in wisconsin. 44,000 for pennsylvania. but for those states trump would not be the in the, not to mention the electoral college helped him win as well. i think the at democracy have the message that's effective in terms of reaching midwestern voters, they just have to be able to communicate more effectively in 2020 than 2016. by the way, i didn't like her swipe at hillary clinton. i think that was unnecessary.
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>> i think they're going get more of that. do you think her midwestern roots make her more formidable to donald trump than the others from the coast. >> it will give her more of a look, but at the end of the day, it's going to be the policies. that's where all the democratic candidates we have seen so far are going to struggle, especially in the midwest. they're saying, your jobs aren't coming back and it will take a magic wand. those jobs are coming back under president trump. >> that's just not true. >> 5 b >> 5.3 billion jobs. >> stop the misinformation campaign. >> from the midwestern states, pete budvich telling a different story on that front. >> true. i don't want to relitigate this, but donald trump came in seeing
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the economy was bad when barack obama was president but as soon as he took office he took credit for things obama did and claimed them as his own. >> that's just not true. >> there were more jobs created in the obama administration in a similar time -- >> coming out of the recession. >> two years before trump took office and two years after. the great recession, we were losing 800,000 jobs a month when obama took office. just stop the misinformation. let's talk about 2020 and not the lies president trump told. >> having an election -- >> i actually did look at them. >> i understand. >> i research this on a regular basis, unlike you. >> hello, everyone, welcome to the 2020 election where the economy is still going to be front and center. >> i'm going new play for you --
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joe biden meeting with the armenian president. he's asked the question everyone is asking. we are not playing with the audio. just listen to this. >> good to see you. >> how are isn't it true. >> good, how are you? >> you going to run? >> most people think joe biden there say, i think i might when asked if he was going run. so, is biden in? >> i have been saying no more a long time. does he really want to subject himself to this? he's run twice before. i don't see any real advantage for him do this. i say no. >> mark? is. >> i'm not a mind reader for a lip reader but he's enjoying teasing people in and the end he may play kingmaker. >> i can agree with you on that. >> i'm going fall off my chair.
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>> it's already seen as i'm a pretty bad guy. >> reporter: and her new green deal resolution not only prompting quick capitol hill movement, but becoming somewhat of a litmus test for 2020 democrats. >> it helps that we come in and don't have any preconceived notions about what we should be doing and following the rules. >> reporter: congresswoman ilhan omar, too, is creating viral moments, becoming one of the most vocal voices of the new class. >> i fail to understand why members of this committee or the american people should find any testimony that you give today to be truthful. >> if i could respond to that. >> um, it was an't a question. >> it was an attack. >> that was not a question. that was not a question. i reserve the right to my time. >> reporter: and congresswoman lucy mcbeth who lost her son jordan davis to gun violence, leading the house judiciary committee to advance its first
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gun control legislation in years. >> it was very bittersweet, because i have been able to do something and achieve something that's really profound and really makes a difference for people like my son, even though i wasn't able to save him. i think each and every one of us in so many different ways is making our mark. >> reporter: in just two short months, these women, along with the rest of the diverse young new class are drawing strength from their record-setting numbers. >> we did not get here by being weak, by being wall flowers, by waiting our turn. >> reporter: making it clear they're doing things their own way. >> there is so much courage, but there's also rawness and realness. i think that's the difference is, you know, you're feeling that connection because these are people that are feeling differently and talking about issues differently. >> reporter: the waves they've made so far. >> i think they're a very, very a force to reckon with and we're trying to reckon with them. >> reporter: not always sitting
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well with leadership. >> that's the word, isn't it? viral, viral, viral. >> reporter: who have had to manage the growing power of this freshman class. >> welcome to the democratic party. we are not a rubber stamp for anybody. the members come, they bring their enthusiasms, their priorities. we welcome that. and they are not programmed. they are spontaneous, prepared, and i'm proud of them. >> now, at the same time, speaker pelosi was also asked if these new members have an outsized influence. and she said, point-blank, no. one new member quipping back to me telling me, pelosi knows her math here, and the math essage very clear that they need us freshman to get their message through. and we've seen this sort of dynamic before, think back to 2010, the tea party, when they forced their leaders, of course, flms this case, in a new direction, as well. >> great to see you, sunlen. coming up next, president trump nominated for the nobel peace prize, or not.
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>> reporter: remember the famous eye roll? the one that went viral after a 19-secondhand she handshake? now it's president abe himself who's eliciting eye rolls. >> that he sent to the people who give out a thing called a nobel prize. it's the most beautiful five-page letter. >> reporter: but is a beautiful five-page letter just as beautiful when you have to ask someone to write it? one of japan's biggest newspapers reported the nomination came at the behest of washington. an informal request, when the prime minister was asked in parliament if he had nominated president trump for the nobel
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prize, he answered, i'm not saying that it is not the fact, citing the nobel committee's policy of not confirming nominees until 50 years have passed. red one tweet, shinzo abe should get the nobel prize in [ bleep ] kissing. cartoonist ed hall tweeted, giving donald trump a nobel peace prize would be like giving jeffrey dahmer a michelin star. but chanting trump-rallygoers were hungry for a prize, mainly due to the president's efforts to denuclearize north korea. [ chanting: nobel ] >> they think the last u.s. president to get one didn't deserve it. >> i did get the nobel peace prize. >> oh, really, what was that for? >> to be honest, i still don't know. >> reporter: but trump's critics skewer his chances of winning. we didn't say nobel prize, we said, no bail, surprise! dana carvey has already imagined
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trump's nobel acceptance speech. >> he would be up there, i love -- i love the nobelians. >> reporter: president trump sooe seems to think it's a nobel calling, calling for himself to win the -- >> nobel. >> reporter: jeanne moos, cnn, new york. >> thanks so much for joining us. "a.c. 360" starts now. >> good evening. 16 states have just taken legal action to challenge president trump's national border emergency. we'll have details in just a moment. we begin, though, with a mystery and a question. three days into this, amid that breaking news and other action, why have we heard so little from the man at the center of it, the president? because with an emergency, there's usually at least some sense of urgency, and there's not a lot of that coming from the white house. or more to the point, from mar-a-lago where the president spent the weekend and had an omelet or two. there's no denying a lot has been happening since he signed the order on friday diverting military money for wall construction. what's missing, though, is much of anything from the president himself. he said nothing about it at