oice remote. from netflix, prime video,youtube and even movie tickets. just say get "dragon tickets". welcome to "inside politics." i'm john king. thank you for sharing your day with us. another big white house lie. the president on record saying he had nothing to do with his son-in-law getting a top security clear answer. the "new york times" reports he did and that his chief of staff and top lawyer wrote memos detailing their concerns. plus a strong rebuke from the parents of otto warmbier. they are horrified. the president says he accepts kim jong-un's word that he had nothing to do with their son's brutal treatment in north korea prisons. the crowded democratic presidential field now has its first governor.

washington's jay ensley says the government should only be concerned about climate change. the vice president takes issue. >> the only green is what it will cost taxpayers if these people ever pass it into law. america will never be a socialist country. back to 2020 politics in a moment. we begin the hour with a major credibility crisis for the trump white house, one that involves the president's family, and, it appears, a series of lies. presidential son-in-law jared kushner is at the center of this. he chrriss-crossed the middle et with clear answer the experance not want him to get. just a few weeks ago, the president said he had nothing to do with it. dea the details are important and the president had a lot to do

with it. john kelly and then white house counsel don mcgahn wrote memos that they were uncomfortable with the decision to ignore the concerns raised by intelligence agencies and other senior legislation officials. those memos, "the times" reports, do not track with this. >> did you tell john kelly or anyone else in the white house to overrule security officials? the career veterans? >> no, i don't think i have the authority to do that, i'm not sure i do. >> you do have the authority to do it. >> but i wouldn't. i wouldn't do it. >> you never -- >> jared's a good -- i was never involved with his security. i know just from reading there was issues back and forth about security for numerous people, actually, but i don't want to get involved in that stuff. >> i don't want to get involved in that stuff, the president says. nor does the new reporting in the "new york times" track with this. >> the president had no

involvement pertaining to my clearance or my husband's clearance. there are literally close to a million people in the federal government who are in the pipeline to get their permanent clearance and are on temporary status. >> so no special treatment? >> no. >> when "the times" asked for comment last night, the response from white house press secretary sarah sanders is telling. she did not repeat the president's denial. she said, quote, it the white he does not comment on security clearances. however, you just heard the president and his daughter comment on security clearances. abby, how do they square this circle? >> reporter: john, they're not even attempting to square the circle. what we heard earlier really opposes this, and she said the

president has the authority to do this. she's right, he has the ability to grant clearance to anybody he wants to, but the question is why grant it over the objections of the people doing the background check trying to check for potential conflicts? in this case it's not known exactly what was in jared kushner's background that caused some concern about granting him this top security clearance, but previous reporting has shown there was some concerns about his contacts, his business contacts with foreign governments, including the united arab emirates, israel and russia. while jared kushner is now on an international tour, it calls into question the very nature of his ability to do this job considering that many people in this government, career officials whose job it is to check these things out, believed that he had conflicts that should not give him access to the highest classification level in this government. but, you know, i think from the white house's perspective, what we are hearing from them is that they're not going to comment

specifically on the allegations but they are doubling down on the president's right to do this. but that doesn't answer any of these questions about what exactly is in kushner's background and why the president did this, specifically for his son-in-law, for a family member. there are some questions being raised already about the concerns about nepotism that have dogged this white house from the very beginning, john. >> and why he said -- you're right, he has the power. why did he say he had nothing to do with it? abby phillip, i appreciate you live with me in the studio. olivia knox with sirius xm, manu raju with the nocnn. the president says, it's my decision, boom, but why lie about it? >> why distance himself from the potential repercussions of doing it, is that what you mean?

the "washington post" reported last year or the year before there were concerns that at least four countries talked about their potential ability with jared kushner over his financial concerns. nothing will happen if this goes sideways. >> this is the apparent new order living in washington now that democrats have authority in the house. they just stick their head in the sand every time questions are raised about ability at the white house. a letter just sent by elijah cummings, chairman of the oversight committee, if true, these new reports raise grave questions about what derogatory information career officials obtained about mr. kushner to recommend denying him access to our nation's most sensitive secrets, why president trump concealed his role in overruling

that recommendation, why general kelly and mr. mcgahn. >> that's why cummings said he wants those documents by monday. this comes after two years when he was in the minority asking for similar documents related to jared kushner and others, michael flynn, others in the white house because he believes security clearance protocols had not been followed by this white house in the transition period. he ignored it when he was in the minority. now he's the chairman. he has the power to issue clearances. if he doesn't get it by monday, expect subpoenas. i talked to one senior member of the committee just this morning, jerry connelly, who said they wanted to talk to general kelly, bring him before the committee. expect him, potentially don mcgahn. this isn't going away anytime

soon. >> that's why these stories, they're not just talking about what the president did but also the existence of these memos, that there are things on paper they can find, and the fact that there are clearly people out there who want it known that there are memos floating around that could get into the details. we just don't know about kushner. >> these things don't fall from the sky. let me read quickly from "the times" report. trump's position in may so troubled officials that at least one, white house chief of staff at the time, john kelly, wrote a contemporaneous internal memo about how he had been ordered to give mr. kushner the top-secret clearance. the white house counsel at the time, donald f. mcgahn, also wrote an internal memo outlining the concerns that had been raised about mr. kushner -- including by the cia -- and how mr. mcgahn had recommended that he not be given a top-secret

clearance. he had authority to do this, and it's just like, we never met with russians. oh, we met with russians but nothing was discussed. they change their story when they get caught. >> i don't know if he's adjusting, but facing the realities of the world of divided government. this is someone who was in business for a long time. he could have ndas, he could have lawsuits where you make a settlement that's sealed, so details like this were less likely to come out in the public domain. >> so lying is okay? >> whether it's okay or it's not okay, it seems like there is a pattern, as you point out, and this has been part of his practice for a while. it wasn't necessarily a problem for him, then he came to washington, republicans controlled all houses -- all parts of congress. that give him some protection and now he's in really a brave new world here. >> listen here, a couple quick things. number one, this is abby lowell who is jared kushner's attorney

on wolf blitzer. this goes back to 2018 as all of this was playing out. >> who made the decision to restore his security clearance? how did that happen? >> the intelligence community and the fbi. it happened in the normal course. it happened the way it happens for thousands of people. there was nobody in the political process that had anything to do with it, there was nobody that pressured it. it was just done the normal, regular way. >> except it was not. it was not done the normal, regular way if you look at "the times" reporting and chief of staff and white house counsel writing memos, they were so concerned about it. again, this was kellyanne conway just months ago. why did his daughter say the president was not involved when the president was involved? this is the answer you get. >> was the president involved in jared kushner's security clearance process? >> we don't discuss security clearances. i'm not even going to discuss my

own. but i will tell you the president has the absolute right to do what was described. >> a, nonresponsive, but b, didn't we show video of the president of the united states and his daughter and jared kushner's lawyer discussing security clearance processes? we don't discuss it when we're caught. is there another answer? please, i'm happy to accept another answer. >> look, i think this is also why there are nepotism rules across the government. of course, the white house doesn't comply with those. it doesn't affect the white house, it does affect other federal agencies, because people -- they clearly were given favoritism. the president was giving favoritism to his son-in-law. this has been something that has dogged this white house since the beginning, and the reason perhaps he lied about it initially is because he did not want to be seen as giving favoritism to his son-in-law. that's why they try to have rules, to prevent that from happening, and also if there is someone who is in the inner circle, another family member who has a lot of baggage like jared kushner, it's very hard to

just fire someone who is related to you which is why they have these rules in place. >> i think another thing to think about as this unfolds is that this comes at a moment where jared kushner was really seen as rising in influence and power within the administration. he just came off a successful run with the criminal justice bill in december, he played a role. he was not quite as successful but he was drafted to help with the shutdown negotiations. he is on this high-profile middle east tour. the president has been through any number of other top aides and he is still there. he is viewed as someone very, very close to the president with a sort of unique role and influence in the white house. >> someone the president trusts which goes back to the president's m.o., he likes to have family members around him who he trusts. we'll track an american family's president whose son died after being in a north

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the parents of an american student who died after being in a prison in north korea lashed out at president trump saying they can't stay silent after the president said he accepts kim jong-un's story that he was unaware of their son's brutal treatment. this from the warmbiers today colon we have been respectful during this summit process. now we must speak out. kim and his evil regime are responsible for the death of our son otto. kim and his evil regime are responsible for unimaginable cruelty and immunity. no excuses or lavish praise can change that. ouch. in other words, you have these parents who are still grieving, and they listen to the president of the united states. you just heard from otto warmbier's parents. the reason they're upset is this. >> he felt badly about it.

i did speak to him. he tells me he didn't know about it and i will take him at his word. >> it was a slap in the face yesterday if you're the parents of this young man. he felt badly, taking kim jong-un's word, saying he felt badly about it? he runs the worst regime on earth. he says, i feel badly about it, and he will take him at his word. >> he doesn't get the attention of the nation's supreme leader. that just doesn't fly. this is in conflict with the grieving parents. in fact, american presidents in general had this sort of dynamic. sheehan, there were others, too. people try to divest them. otto warmbier is not worth scuttling these negotiations. but you're sending subtle messages about what you value and you're rewarding certain

kinds of behavior. what you hear from national security is if you just wipe a sponge over it, if you erase this stuff, what you're telling these leaders is, go ahead, be reckless. >> that's a good way to put it. let's just remind people, otto warmbier was imprisoned. he went to north korea for five days in december 2015. he was detained in pyongyang, found guilty of hostile acts, sentenced to 15 years of hard labor. he obtained botulism, according to north korea. they granted his release and he died a few days after getting home. i can't understand what possessed the president to say i accept kim jong-un's words here. >> as olivia was saying, he's had fights with other families, not showing sympathy, for instance, to the death of a service member, one of the

widows who was affected by the death of her husband after that deadly ambush in nuger. you recall the feud that occurred after that. the comment the president made really marred the summit. people criticize how he handled north korea, that's separate, but some republicans were applauding the fact that he walked away from any deal with kim jong-un because they were concerned that he was going to do something bad. but afterwards, this overshadowed virtually everything, and talking to republicans yesterday, they didn't know how to balance the two. mitch mcconnell went to the floor, praised the president's handling of the summit, but then when he was asked directly about the warmbier comments, he would not comment on that. it just shows what the president did was a huge mistake and has put his own party in a difficult position. >> this is also -- we've seen this before, versions of this with this president, that he values personal relationships so much, he can invest in them with other foreign leaders, and he's

been known to take the word of autocrats over his own leaders. so there is precedent with him when he gets in the room with these people and hears what they have to say seeming to listen thoto them. >> but i think olivia's point is a good one, that you can't separate this from broader policy. we've seen it with the state departments, the saudis and the chinese. this is another signal to these kinds of regimes that this is just not a priority for the united states. and beyond the tragedy of this one particular case with the grieving parents and the whole situation, it is sending a broader message that is, i think, notable, and that's part of the reason why republicans yet again are in this complicated spot when it comes to the president's foreign policy. >> we'll keep a watch on this one. obviously you read the statement from the warmbiers, your heart breaks. up next, the 2020 washington

race. governor jay inslee seeing if it can catapult him all the way to the white house.

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country. >> our country's next mission must be to rise up to the most urgent challenge of our time: defeating climate change. this crisis isn't just a charter graph anymore. the impacts are being felt everywhere. i'm jay inslee, and i'm running for president because i'm the only candidate who will make defeating climate change our nation's number one priority. >> cnn's jeff zeleny joins the conversation. it is a risky bet, especially if you think winning is possible to just say, let's organize everything around this. but it's an interesting bet. >> it certainly is, and it's also more than -- he uses climate change as a vessel for everything else. why it's a national security challenge, why it's an infrastructure challenge, why it's an economic challenge facing the country. the thing i was struck with first and foremost, of all the candidates, he's a governor. that used to be the path to the white house, george w. bush, bill clinton and others.

in recent times it hasn't been, but that's a striking thing other governors are looking at. he's the first to jump in. i think the most interesting fact he has on the field is what he does to other candidates. he told "rolling stone" recently, all these other candidates just want to check the box. so he is going to have a defining focus on this. other candidates will have to up their game on climate change, i think, if he reaches the debate stage or even if not. that's what the effect these other candidates have. >> this has to be the number one priority of the united states. every agency has to be on board. and it has to take priority over everything else we do. you have to build a mandate for this during the campaign. you have to express a willingness to spend your political capital to get this done. i think too many other candidates are going to say, i'm for the green new deal and now i'm done. that's not going to cut it. we have to say how much is about

government, how much is about business. that's a good debate. represent cans look at this more scornfully. >> i sat down with the governor over the weekend, we knew this was coming soon. we talked about his platform among other things, and at one point i asked him, even if you don't get the nomination, you're ensuring this is on the stage, right? he just gave a smile. he didn't take the bait, but he knows this is what it's about. he knows there was nothing about climate change in the general debates last time around, and he wants to make sure this is being talked about, that it's center stage, even if some elements of the party feel that it's a little bit risky. it's an avenue to attack them particularly in transitioning industrial states like michigan, like ohio that are key to electoral success. another thing he said during the interview was i asked if he would be willing to use an emergency declaration on climate change, and he did not rule that out at all.

you can see how a democrat would be thinking about coming into the presidency with these expanding powers that would allow them to take very big powers on a problem like this. he wants to make sure whether it's he as a nominee or another democrat to do that. >> you have 11 officially declared. another six, eight or ten, we're still waiting on beto. looks like he's getting in. we're still waiting on biden. we're still waiting on governor hick hickenlooper. he wants to focus on climate change. but if you look, he's not out of step with the other party, if you will. he voted against the iraq war, voted against the 2000 bank bill, imposed a moratorium on the death penalty. he was in the house of representatives before he became governor. he's a mainstream progressive. >> if you think about 2016 and the way that democratic primary unfolded, initially people saw

bernie sanders who was just there to push a much more liberal agenda than the party had. while he wasn't successful, he came very, very close, and he really did change that platform. clinton was forced to a more liberal place because of it. on the party platform that summer, he had a huge influence over it. so the idea this could drive it is not out of the question. >> there is a 2020 attempt for democrats to pass a cabinet bill to deal with climate change, and he saw how other house members lost their races in the midterms as a result. he's seen the political risk and he's done a lot of assessment of where the politics are now, and he believes that the politics have changed. >> does he have a timeline of when this issue needs to rise among democratic voters? it's not at the top, right? >> he would say it is at the top. >> the last polling i saw did not put it as the top issue.

>> he wants to make it the top. >> that's what i'm wondering. does he have an idea of when in this whole process -- >> in the inslee administration, it would happen at the very beginning. >> i'm fascinated by your point that he's forcing all the others to take a stand, in the way elizabeth warren did with fundraising, i think. it will be interesting to see who is setting the rules. >> and how aggressive is he going to go after it? is he going to try to raise it on his own? he's a governor, member of congress. he's from the establishment wing in the sense that he's a respected elected official in the party who also wants to see the president defeated. i don't think he's trying to be a spoiler, but on this debate stage, should he make it in june, it will be interesting to see how he goes after others. if there is a frontrunner in the debate, does he say, so and so, i'm challenging you today to these things. >> he is convinced this is a winning issue for democrats, and

particularly for key parts of the democratic coalition like young voters. we're a long way from june, so we'll see what he does, but i wouldn't be surprised if we saw that. >> this is the big test with this field. they're from different parts of the country, they have different emphasis whether it's medicare for all, climate change or taxes. that's what makes it fun. the good thing about it is not taking sides. the good thing is if they're debating policy along with talking about the president. seth meyers surprising the senator last night on "late night" with this clip from 1988. >> let's tay tke a look here at senator sanders at the sweetheart dance. >> how you doing? >> come on, bernie, fill them up there. >> i really like the clip of you distributing candy fairly.

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2020 and lots of it on our political day. you're looking at live pictures out of iowa with elizabeth warren about to hit the road there. senator cory booker campaigning in south carolina. senator and presidential candidate bernie sanders on "the view" today getting a few laughs when he was asked about who he may or may not get advice from this time around. >> we're hearing about democratic candidates meeting

with hillary clinton for advice, like amy klobuchar. are you going to do the same? >> hillary has not called me. >> you're not going to seek any advice from her? >> i think not. look -- >> bernie sanders positive joe biden apologizing for calling vice president pence a "decent guy." here is what biden said. >> the guy is a decent guy. our vice president who stood before this group of allies and leaders and said, i'm here on behalf of president trump. there was dead silence. >> the bernie thing is hilari s hilarious. not going to pick up the phone and call hillary clinton for advice. one of the things about joe

biden is sometimes his tongue gets ahead of his brain. we've seen this throughout his career. is he in tune with today's base of the democratic party? we know biden is a decent sort. he wants to say everyone is a nice guy. he's trying to be nice to mike pence. but being nice to mike pence infuriates a big part of the base. >> he has a good relationship with both sides of the aisle -- >> my friend on the other side. >> is that really what the fired-up resistance to go toe to toe with this president wants, he'll have to get tough with his candidacy. >> democratic voters only care about one thing, which is electability, can the person beat president trump? you make the conclusion that biden could, he has a lot of experience, but i think he is out of touch with where they are and the kind of tone those voters want to strike is the

fundamental question. who knows if he's going to do it? he's indicated the family is on board, he said, this week, but you get a lot of stories of, he's moving closer from people who talked to a person who talked to him. >> if electability is the issue, is he in touch with today's democratic base? number two, is he going to have a misstep in the general election campaign and do you worry about that because he's authentic? >> and do moments like this before he even gets in give him pause? >> it's a great question. when we come back, michael cohen was on capitol hill this week. it was not the end, just the beginning.

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president trump deciding not to sleep in today. just back from vietnam and tweeting up a storm this morning, attacking his long-time lawyer and fixer, michael cohen. including an accusation cohen's testimony mounted to perjury,

quote, on a scale not seen before. and the ever familiar, it's time to end the witch hunt. beginning, not end, is the word democrats use when discussing cohen. several house communities are planning to follow up on the issues and allegations cohen raised. the oversight committee chairman putting anyone named by cohen on notice. >> if there were names mentioned or records that were mentioned during the hearing, we'll figure out who we want to talk to and then we'll bring them in. >> would it be fair, then, to say that if any names came up multiple times in that hearing -- >> they have a good chance of hearing from us. >> so the question, and i'll start with you on this one, manu, is how specific should we read that? in a sense does he mean ivanka trump, donald trump jr. he named sater, a business associate. we already know sater has agreed

to testify. he named alan weisselberg and he named people at the trump association involved with things. all, including the president's children? >> i asked him specifically the president's children. i said, mr. cummings, ivanka trump, eric trump, donald trump jr. do you want to speak to them? he said, if they were named in the hearing, you can expect the committee will contact them. does that mean they'll actually bring them in for interviews and have a hearing, that needs to be sorted out. but expect letters, asking for documentation, but there are different aspects of all of this. people are involved in knowledge of different things that were brought out through the hearing. for donald trump jr., his signature was on one of the checks to went to michael cohen to reimburse him for part of that hush money scandal to keep quiet these alleged affairs right before the election. they'll probably want to ask about that. certainly alan weisselberg will be on the top of everyone's list. he'll come before the house

oversight committee, probably the intelligence committee. he was in the trump organization and involved in the payment scheme as well. these committees have to sort out how they want to investigate going forward. cummings told me five or six committees are going to divide up all the allegations that came out of the cohen testimony, all the potential criminal activity. he is going to look into the hush money payments, the president's involvement in this. so not ending soon. >> the five committees on march 1st, 2019, which means this will drag through the year. a member of the oversight committee put it this way. we have a rich table. we're now looking at a 10-course meal. here's bill pasquale, a member of the ways and means committee. here's the question, can they keep focused? one of the long things has been, what about the president's taxes? there's no reason to delay anymore. under 26 usc, congress can get

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he said everybody they wiretapped, every warrant they got. he thinks it's a crooked deep state. now if you have devin nunez agreeing with adam schiff and the democrats saying, let's see work product? is that just chatter? >> i think the republicans do want to see the mueller report in full with a minimum number of redactions. the question is -- the democrats could certainly subpoena in the house without republican support. do the republicans and the senate who run the senate, will democrats issue their own subpoenas for the report? i would imagine. it depends how they handle it in the justice department. coming up, they have a new conservative they just can't stop talking about. a new favorite foe. that's next. it's time to get a personal loan from sofi. borrow up to $100k to pay off your credit cards,

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ocacio-cortez's ideas. take look at the chart compiled by the "washington post." only senator elizabeth warren beats ocacio-cortez is fox news mentions. senator harris running close behind. you can see this on "the huffington post" as well. people must be clicking. that's why that happened. >> she has views that are outside of the mainstream of the traditional democratic party. she is driving the conversation in ways that other democrats cannot given just her legion of twitter followers and the focus that is on her. the challenge is for the democratic leadership making sure that base of the party, that element of the caucus, particularly nancy pelosi, does not go to war with the more moderate members of her caucus to ensure that they can keep the majority in 2020.

the reason why nancy pelosi is speaker is because those moderate democrats won in districts in which republicans held those seats. but they're going to collide. they have already collided on procedural fights over in the early parts of this congress. it's going to continue as we get into the policy issues going forward. >> how much influence does she have in the sense that she has celebrity, which matters in today's politics, which matters in today's politics. she has a social media identity which matters in today's politics. the "washington post" reporting that democrats have been frustrated that people have sided with some moderates and they've lost ballots on the floor. the freshman class upped the ante. t ocacio-cortez said she told her colleagues democrats who side with republicans, quote, are putting themselves on a list. >> i think she's been very strategic about how she used the celebrity that came out of her house race, and she's definitely become, as you point out, a pace

leader for the democratic party. she has a very large platform on social media, she can get a message out. but, you know, she's not running the house of representatives, but if she wanted to build primary challenges, encourage primary challenges against these other members, i think it's an open question whether they would succeed. the reason they succeed is that they're moderate. >> the conversation about trump and the conversation about cortez is also about a broader effort of targeting socialism going into 2020. you've heard this from the president, you've heard this from conservative media and they seize on those policies. >> this is her on an instagram feed. she is a big proponent of the green new deal. she said climate change poses a threat to all americans, but young americans particularly care about it to this degree. >> there is scientific consensus that the lives of children are going to be very difficult, and

it does lead, i think, young people to have a legitimate question. you know, should -- is it okay to still have children? >> that's actually not a new thing. that's actually a debate you hear sometimes among climate change activists, people who really want to take on the problem. that's not new, but she embraces these things more than in the past. republicans have been using the socialist label for everything. medicare, social security, for absolutely ever. now you have electives who are embracing it. >> there are portions of the democratic party that are embracing it. socialism within the democratic party has become less of a bad word. >> if you're trying to find the rust belt in 2020 -- >> some are talking about just voting present, not yes or no, voting present because they don't want to side with

mcconnell's strategy, they don't want to anger the wing. >> when you have a bigger table, you have more voices. it's like thanksgiving. it gets interesting. thanks for joining us on "inside politics." i'll be here sunday evening as well. brianna keilar strararts right . have a great friday. i'm brianna keilar live from cnn's washington headquarters. underway right now, the president reportedly ordered officials to include son-in-law jared kushner's security clearance despite concerns from intel officials and then lied about it. why? why one of the president's closest allies say they may be building a case to indict president trump once he leaves office. the one thing the governor of washington is doing differently than the rest of his competitors. and stinging