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lobbyist at the interior department and making those come true. >> we want to hand it over to chris for cuomo primetime. >> welcome to primetime. the president pulled another fast one with the security clearance, this time for his daughter ivanka. democrats are asking for answers. the white house reportedly ducking. can the democrats take on all of this president's problems or is the hunt going to backfire? we're going to bring in one of the top investigators. plus exclusive reporting for you tonight. the real crisis at the border. it's one the president isn't selling. it's one a wall will not fix. the people trying to keep us safe are worried and i'm going to tell you why, only here tonight and the latest candidate to enter the 2020 race is only here tonight, why does governor john hickenlooper think he's the
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one to take out the president? what do you say? let's get after it. >> if you got nothing to hide, why don't you comply? the white house rejecting the demand for documents pertaining to the security clearance process. cnn learned from three sources that the president didn't just overrule his aids to get top secret clearance for his son-in-law, he also pressured them to grant his daughter ivanka a security clearance against their recommendations. now this is not illegal, the president has the right. but is what he did and how he handled it right? the lying alone is the question. here's what ivanka told us last month. >> the president had no involvement pertaining to my clearance or my husband's clearance. zero. >> now is that just an untruth that was intentional? or did she not know? also raises serious questions
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about national security. why didn't they want to give these two people clearances? also ethical considerations. sources say the president tried to get john kelly and white house counsel to grant the clearances so it didn't appear like he was tainting the process. they refused so he did it himself. welcome back. >> thanks, chris, good to be with you. >> this president lies all the time. the people that support him don't seem to care. frankly they think you're all liars. they don't expect anything better from the process. so when you hear he can give security clearances but he lied about it not once but at least twice, what does that mean in terms of oversight? >> well, i think for us it continues to feed this pattern of abuse of power. and of corruption, potentially
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maybe not this particular thing but the three areas of the judiciary committee is going to look into are obstruction of justice, abuse of power, and making sure that we really take on this culture of corruption. so this to me just another one of those and chris, if it were just one, that would be one thing but as we keep seeing in the news media, it's over and over again where there are these abuses of power where the president is directing people to do things they wouldn't otherwise do. in both of those cases with ivanka and jared, there were issues raised by their security checks. this isn't just about, this is a serious issue. what were those issues? we should understand why those issues were raised by their background checks. >> i'm with you on that. do you think you can get answers
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on that or will they claim executive privilege? >> i don't know what they're going to do. >> right now they won't give you anything. >> the 81 requests that we submitted are actually documents that have all been provided for other investigations. so this isn't new stuff and in fact, it's relevant because it has been already asked for by other investigations. so the judiciary committee has the right to look at all of this. that's one more thing now. when we submitted our document request this wasn't something that we were looking at. oversight is looking at that issue and we're really trying to be focused on the job that we have an obligation to do. >> there's discretion. you worry about how much is too much. the 81 number keeps getting out there but there will be probably a dozen probes and i know that's
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not what the constitutional oversight is about but there are political expectations. you worried about this? >> i'm not. again, the 81 are all documents that have already been produced. so we're not going into things that haven't been investigated in some way, shape, or form but we're trying to put the pieces of the puzzle together. we haven't had the opportunity to do any oversight for two years. the republicans refuse to allow us to do any of this. so this is backed up now, thing after thing after thing the one thing i will tell you, republicans and democrats and independents i believe do not want public corruption. they don't want the office of the white house to further their own benefit at the cost of the american people. this is a really, really key issue. we'll look into all of these and i hope that, you know, i don't
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know who to believe. whatever -- he didn't quite say he was going to do that and now they're already putting up barriers. we have a two week turn around and then start the investigation. we have a very specific and broad mandate and we need to make sure that we do our job. >> we'll see what you find. that's going to be the test. have you seen dhss projections of what they think is going to happen in terms of blow on the border? >> i saw the story and the numbers that the new york times had today and in some ways it doesn't completely surprise me in terms of illegal border crossin crossings. once they started the metering
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process, they shutdown many and people started coming in illegally. those claims can be processed fairly quickly. it's not the first time these things have happened. >> i got numbers from somebody that's so concerned that they're putting the numbers out, you know they're going before the senate committee, tomorrow, the intel committee to try to make the case that you guys have to do something. here's my criticism/question, you guys didn't want to make the debate about the wall, the president did but politics wound up putting you in that position. you're fighting over the wall. the wall is not needed. not as much as he wants. i understand it. these numbers are going to frighten you and they should.
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the system can't handle the flow and the rules and the resources have not been addressed by you guys the way they need to. in addition to the oversight, you guys have to deal with a flow that's going to be crushing in the face of the enemy. >> we have been there. do you know how many hearings we had in two years of republican control? exactly. we are taking on all of these issues and really, i think, the big questions here are the overall system we have a way to have a asylum seeking process. to make sure that we address all the pieces of the broken immigration system that's been there for so long. democrats are ready to do that.
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i want to dive into those numbers. >> time is now. >> i studied this issue. i know a lot about it and there's different ways to read numbers. i like to have all of that information that's in front of me. i like to make sure that i'm seeing numbers that are comparable to the way numbers have been tracked in the past. we will be diving into those questions and i still haven't forgotten about the families separated from their children. thousands more than we even knew of. >> they're not going to have a choice, though. the way it picks up, i got why they did the settlement at the time. it's something that has to be looked at.
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i'll get it right after the break. thank you very much. >> thank you, chris. >> we have more to come. you know, i go slow on these because, yeah, he lied to you about it. is that a new story for you? it could effect national security but when will people want something done? we'll ask a democrat running for president. how do you deal with a president that doesn't tell truth in a system where people don't expect the truth. and i believe it's the big story of the night. your not going to hear it anywhere else. there's a real crisis at the border. congress isn't dealing with it. wait until you hear the reality, next. ♪
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the reality of who is coming has changed. i want you to look at this. this is the face of the present and the future. it's kids and families like we saw down there but now they're coming from all over and they're hitting all the places that they
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can. they are literally scared. kids and they're worried about them being killed by the trip or god forbid, the inability to care for them. >> the system is well beyond capacity and remains at the breaking point. >> they apretended 76,000 people in february alone. it's the highest number in the last dozen years. but it's who. families are taxing the system at more than 60% of the flow. 70 large groups turned up at
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remote border patrol stations. why? they're not sneaking in. they're asking for detention. the ports of entry are overwhelmed. they're desperate. you're not a wall away. remember we brought you this story of a 7-year-old girl that died because they didn't have enough buses. not because they don't care. not because they're not trying. they're good men and women keeping us safe. they're overwhelmed. you don't hear the officials and tomorrow when they go to the senate intel committee, you won't hear it being a discussion about a wall because a wall doesn't help with rules and resource issues. caravans that once took weeks to show up, replaced by buses. now they get here in about a week. in other words, while the politicians jerry pick so-called bad hombres, here's the truth. this presents a border security and humanitarian crisis. >> so the president pitches a
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wall, they fight over it and it distracks time, money and attention. on top of it, the president keeps threatening to cut aid from the same places spawning migrants. almost assuring more desperation and increased race to our border. congress is being informed of the problem. the people in charge of keeping us safe are begging for help. the president is not focused on it for his own political reasons. so, what should this white house do about this actual emergency? let's put it to our great debaters, next. ♪ a wealth of information. a wealth of perspective. ♪ a wealth of opportunities. that's the clarity you get from fidelity wealth management.
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describing the situation at the southern border after reporting a surge last month in undocumented migrants but it's about kids and families. simple message to both, stop with the wall talk, help us with this, this is the real crisis. we've had this conversation before. i get the need of the physical borders but i never got the priority because i knew this was coming. we're not a wall away from dealing with people presenting themselves to asylum and we haven't given the resources and political attention. >> chris, nobody ever said we're a wall away as if that's a
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silver bullet. that has been set up by a lot of people on the left to try to criticize the wall. it's a important tool that they tell us we need. >> why do you keep emphasizing what the wall will do. it will stop the murders, it will stop the drugs, it will stop the terrorists when that was all bs -- >> no, it isn't. what the wall would do right now, if it were built and unfortunately we can't snap our fingers and make this happen. >> let's say you have the wall there -- >> it would force these people then to do it the legal way which is go to ports of entry because it would be too hard to get over or underneath the existing wall. and they'd have to do it the right way. >> the system can't handle the flow. our asylum laws are being
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abused. asylum is meant for people being persecuted because of their race or political believes or religion. not because you're from a bad neighborhood. that's not a reason to come for legitimate asylum to the united states and do you know why? a lot of americans live in terrible neighborhoods. a lot of black and brown americans and i'm not about to tell american citizens that we're going to take in guatamlans because they don't have safe neighborhoods. >> the president hasn't been talking about this. it's been all wall, wall, wall. and now we see what we have seen but now they think it's going to be worse than ever and they're not set up to deal with this crisis because nobody is giving them what they have been asking for for years. >> that's exactly where we need to start. i'd love to respond to steve's shenanigans but the substance of
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this is far more important. there's four simultaneous hearings tomorrow. daca recipients talking about their experiences and why it's so dangerous for this administration to terminate the program. the wall doesn't solve that. we also have the secretary testifying before the homeland security committee on the house side and the department of homeland security's inspector general testifying before the judiciary committee. my point is there's enough happening to determine the facts around this. what is not good is for us to continue with the nonsense and the propaganda and fear mongering that steve is using talking about people's bad neighborhoods and they're escaping bad neighborhoods.
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these people are experiencing trauma and after they experience the trauma in their home countries they get traumatized by being separated from their children once they reach the border. that's something that we need to be discussing. that's why democrats in the house majority have to get to the bottom of this so they can legislate with facts instead of with fear. >> that's the part to respond to. you go to the boogey man. and instead of just dealing with the reality, you're not going to hear them say what you're saying right now tomorrow. they're going to say, here's what we're looking at. it's not this bs that the president is selling that these kids are being recycled. that's all bs. that's what somebody is feeding him that's not true and his
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people have to cover for him. here's the truth. i know what's true and i know what isn't. these kids come in with their families. they want to, they care. but they don't have the resources and this president has not made that a priority. so now you got your money for the wall. what is he doing on this? >> i'm glad you mention their opinion on the matter. he said quote, crossing with a child is a guarantee of speedy release within the united states. that's what he says. >> don't tell me that kids are not being used as effectively tickets for entry into the united states. >> be clear. be clear. you have to be precise on this show. i'm saying that what the president said about kids being recycled, that they're not really with their parents and that people are using the same kids again and again, that's bs.
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is the system -- is the system susceptible to kids creating a problem of how you hold them? how long you can hold them? where they have to be released? and we don't want to separate families so, yes, the system winds up being vulnerable to that. >> but here's why. people respond to incentives. they're not dumb. these are smart. these are economic migrants. we need to be real about the terminology here. these are not persecuted people. >> how do you know? >> we do know because 90% of their claims are rejected and because those countries, we know that they are not countries of political persecution. >> let me hold you there. >> you should throw that talking point as far as the east is from the west. >> let me give you an actual solution. here's what the president should
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do. it's time to declare, by the way, i'm glad the new york times and other liberals have finally realized what we have long known which is that there is a crisis at the border. they have woken up to that fact. >> if you want to be straight. be straight. he is selling a crisis that is a bs crisis. he's selling this brown menace coming across the border to take your women and kill you. -- he never said brown menace. >> it doesn't drive fear. own it. >> no, but listen -- no, no, you're the one establishing the boogey man when you say brown menace. >> they're coming to kill you. they're coming to rape. >> drug dealers and rapists steve. i don't know why you're turning a blind eye to it of all people on this segment. you should be the last one turning a blind eye to it. you should be offended. >> absolutely the opposite is true and i'll tell you.
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if you read the stories about the victims of illegal immigrant crime, the victims are hispanic. look at the victims of ms-13. almost all of those stories, you'll see on the victim's side -- >> now the kids are ms-13? >> some of them are. >> where did ms-13 start, steve? >> the point is a pborder encourages illegality and national security and economic issues for america. the answer is simple, the president needs to declare another emergency declaration. he needs to suspend the way we process asylum right now. you can no longer cross our border illegally and throw your hands up and gain asylum. >> that's not fair. >> 90% of people don't get it.
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>> but angela, here's the good news. there's an opportunity here because the president has bought into a rational of fear. you have to fear who is coming across, that's why you do what i want and we build the wall. okay. that's his push. he's not going to get it both ways. that's why he's quite about the real crisis. it's an opportunity for democrats. we're going to make this right for these kids and families coming across. i don't hear that urgency for them yet. some of this is new and some of this is not. do you think that's going to be an adjustment? >> i have to say this, i think democrats since before they took ov over, they have been doing this oversight. they took a delegation of members of congress to the southern border to do just that. they're doing what they're supposed to be doing. you're not supposed to legislate out of your behind. you're supposed to be rooted in
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fact. not this 80 to 90% number that's based on an objective standard. ensure they're staffed up and targeting the right people. it's not supposed to just be families. now we also have to address psychological challenges that we have caused. that's something that we need to save. for all the evangelicals that support donald trump and proclaim they love jesus i am shocked that this is the way they go about legislating, that this is the way they go about policy making and advocating against the least of these. >> what happens if -- >> i can answer that because -- >> what happens if these numbers are what these people think they're going to be and you start having bad things happen and now you have all of this money for the wall and you're going to build your physical barriers, good for you but
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you're not addressing this. how bad is that for you guys? >> i think this needs to be addressed as well. i think the president should use emergency powers to suspend the way we're currently catering to asylum because it's being abused on a wholesale basis at our border right now and partly because we don't have a wall so they know they can come across illegally. they know our rules and if they raise their hand they get to stay indefinitely. again, that's not my opinion. that what they tell us -- >> that's what i said. >> as a follower of jesus i'll tell you this, the best way to help people is real economic development, through capitalism. that's what they need more of. >> then why do you want to cut the aid to these countries. >> why do you want to cut the aid to these countries -- >> i'll get to that. if we say anyone that has a tough lot in life in the world
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may suddenly come to the united states at their choosing, our currently prosperous country will no longer be prosperous. >> migrant labor hasn't helped this country, right? >> i wonder how this country got prosperous. it's a lack of compassion just like what you're showing, steve. >> we got prosperous from a lack of compassion? >> i'll give you that history lesson. >> i don't know what you got taught in history class, but we will fix that in the next great debate. you have a good night. >> i didn't listen much in history class thank goodness because i didn't want to be taught what they wanted me to learn about history. >> thank you. >> i got to tell you, steve, i have never believed anything you said more than what you just said. i believe what you just said. 110%. i don't believe you were paying attention. >> he didn't listen. >> thank you very much. both of you. he really just said i didn't pay
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attention in history class and you wonder -- anyway, how would democrats do better on the border? how would they do better on the issues that trump supporters think he owns? we'll take those questions to the newest candidate for president ahead. and ivanka trump's security clearance is now also in question along with her husband. what happens in ex-? should they get to keep it? right back. so...you're stuck in the vicious cycle of credit card payments? it's time to get a personal loan from sofi. borrow up to $100k, and pay us back with one monthly payment... and no fees. ♪ - did you know, the exact same hotel room can have many different prices? it all depends on where you look. - wait, you paid how much? - oh, dear! - well, this is awkward. that's why tripadvisor checks over 200 booking sites (cash register ringing) to find you a great price, and the hotel you want, so you don't end up overpaying for your room. no offense. find the right hotel room for the right price.
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michael bloomberg is out. he's not going to run. hickenlooper is in. so what do names like bernie sanders, kamala harris and corey booker, what do they mean where he can do even better. let's ask. former colorado governor, john hickenlooper, welcome to primetime. >> thanks for having me on. >> all right. make the case. your party seems knuckled up to me. they're looking to reach across the aisle more often to grab the other side by the throat than anyone else. you're known as a peacemaker. how do you prove to your party that you're what they need to win? >> the reason i'm running for
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president is we're facing a crisis. a crisis of division and i think health care and climate. i feel like my time in government and my time in small business really allowed me to prove that i could bring people together and get big things done and we were able to get almost universal coverage together through bipartisan efforts. we're able to get the industry and the environmental community in the same room for 14 months and create methane regulations that were the best in the country. we were 40th in job creation and we're the number one economy in the country. i know i can beat donald trump but i think i can bring us together on the other side and get real progress on important issues. >> let's do a plus and a minus.
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on the plus side, you'll be dealing with a voter base if you want to get his people or people in the middle, people who are open. he cut taxes. he cut regulations. he started telling other countries, don't mess with us anymore. people like those things. what can you do that's better? we have to work together as a country and you can't be threatening our closest allies and disregarding our top experts. people at the highest levels of his department of homeland security or the national security council, these are real problems when you're dividing our closest allies. i look on the domestic front, you can't continue to divide everyone who is trying to find solutions and that's how come we have such gridlock in washington. we have government being
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threatened with it. >> why hickenlooper? >> it's hitchhitcher in dutch. >> you should change it just for the campaign. >> i might try that. listen, i think i'm the one person, the one candidate that has the experience and can demonstrate a long progress or process and consistent progress of getting stuff done. and they're also good at coming up with the ideas. i come up with the ideas but we're also able to get stuff done. and we got it done. getting stuff done, there's an
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appetite in the country right now, especially among democrats to be able to say look we're going to get stuff done and we're going to move this country forward with progressive values and get stuff done. and it's early. it's early. you'll have to figure it out. part of your party is where you are. let's figure out how to get this done. how do you accommodate those people that say bad enough you're a white man that we don't believe is the future of our party but we want medicare for all, we want to get rid of private insurance, at least it's a starting point, and we want free college, we want free housing. we want sustainability of fixed incomes for people. what do you say to them?
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>> my point is the democrat party has always been a big tent and we have a lot of different voices and our diversity is our strength. i love it. that's one of the reasons i'm so proud to be a democrat but when we begin to be excluding and saying, well, just because you disagree with me, you're completely wrong. whether it's single pair or whether it's medicare for all, don't all democrats really agree that health care should be a right? that we should have universal coverage and once we get the white house we can sit down and say we'll take this part from medicare or maybe why don't we fashion universal coverage in the way that works best. in terms of the issues around the economic justice, i don't disagree that right now capitalism isn't serving, especially low income and middle
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class people they're not getting the security or opportunity that america has always provided but there's add jutsmentjustments t going to move us forward but doesn't involve hand to hand warfare. hopefully we get more opportunities to speak. what does hickenlooper mean? >> dutch, like, heckenlopen. the mailmen and we said why isn't the name more common and he said well they were the game pushers. i said that meant we jumped higher and ran faster. who knows? >> i like it. >> we have breaking news on
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and did not include all the contacts that they had with foreigners. this is a very cumbersome process and anyone that has a clearance will tell you, it is something that people take very seriously. they hire lawyers and initially, they didn't actually fill out all the forms about all the foreigners they had been in contact with through business or social reasons over time. and it lingers over time where these red flags were raised in the intelligence community. >> it could be explained as a paperwork problem. why is the president wrong to say, look, i know my kid. i know my son-in-law. i get that you have procedures but they're no threat to national security. they're my family. give them the clearances. >> right. first off, the president can do what he wants in this. he can grant clearance to whomever he wants. now this is the unusual
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situation here. normally when there's top advisers, they usually aren't the daughter and why there were these concerns. that really is the biggest question. what are the reasons that the intelligence community had these concerns about the clearances of jared kushner and ivanka trump. and even intercepted communications where foreign officials had discussed ways they might gain influence over jared kushner. these are really at the heart of the matter perhaps even more significant than why president trump gave them the clearance is why there were the concerns in the first place. >> and why did he lie about it
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reportedly? let me throw you a curveball. we have word online that an american has been detained by the saudis. do you have that same reporting? >> we have been reporting on that issue for the last couple days. assuming it is the same case, that there is an american that was interrogated in a similar manner, that saudis had been. this is an issue we've been following very closely. i think we're actually just trying to just scratch the surface right now on -- >> do we know why and do we know why the white house hasn't said anything about it? is that normal? >> in this case i'm not sure why the white house hasn't commented on this. this is one of the questions about the overall relationship with the saudis, why i hathey haven't been more expansive between the government and the saudis. this is a very important question. >> i threw you a curveball and you handled it very well because
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i think it's a big question. this american detained by the saudis and we don't hear anything about the white house? why aren't they there? why aren't they getting released in i thought we had such a great relationship. thanks. as we've shown you tonight there is a crisis at the border and there is reason to believe it is going to get worse than we have ever seen. here's the problem. it's not the crisis the president has been telling you about. there are solutions. will the president heed them and if not, will congress? the art next. ♪ hoo!
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projections of what is feared to be coming. it's not a wave of murderers. not the boogie man the man is selling. here's the face of reality. the kids. the families. they're coming in record numbers. they're not slipping through undetected. they're begging for detention. the men and women in charge of keeping us safe say they've never seen anything like it. they're going to the senate and the house tomorrow to implore congress to finally take this seriously. we are not a wall away. this is not about wall or no wall. it's always been about physical barriers. and you don't know what comes after the and, because our dialogue has been all about the wall. bravo, mr. president, you've won. you've dominated the conversation. however, the loser is the reality at the border. frankly, despite pelosi's effort to ignore during the season,
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which was smart, the democrats have fallen into the fight to stop the war and all that energy over how much fence to build or not build and where and how does he get the money, national emergency, complete compromise of our best defense. we aren't talking about the real problem and now it is upon us. our laws, our guidelines, system made us vulnerable to the exact problem we actually are facing. epic numbers of families coming together. over capacity at the biggest facilities already. literally over 100% capacity. you'll start hearing the numbers. they are frightening. if you don't have the accommodations or the staff, okay, so give them those things. it takes time. you haven't planned. even if you could, what about the case agents? what about the judges? here's the problem. time plus capacity problems equals trouble. not as a result of neglect.
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i am assuming everybody does their job excellently. and still overcrowding, time, attention, illness, violence, abuse. it would be shocking if there are not tragedies. so build a wall. they're not sneaking in. they're coming to get processed. that's what the officials say. that's what they're going to say tomorrow. if everyone comes the right way, here's the problem. it may be even worse. why? because you can't handle the flow now at the ports of entry. in a way, having the illegal crossing has been like a release valve. not the right way. you don't want people to come illegally. it's wrong on a it number of levels. let's look at why this is happening. on the side of the migrants, you've got desperation and misconception of ease of asylum, especially if you kids in tow. the second part of what i'm seeing as a perfect storm, the systemic side, the u.s. the laws don't address the realities and you have a lack of capacity you can't handle the
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flow. then the factor that should bother us the most because we can control it. our president and leaders are fighting on a different front. we're ignoring this. we've done it at our own peril. the money allocated is not being put in the place that would address this concern. democrats, i know that you're big on oversight right now. i get it. this is an opportunity. deal with this. the house, the senate hearing tomorrow, that's something, but it's not enough. i've been there. i'm going to go back. i've seen the problem. i've talked to the men and women. i talked to them often. the people were demonized, the president wants you to be afraid of those coming. why? it makes sense. fuel outrage, drive enthusiasm for what he wants, the farce of the wall. here's the problem. build all the fine fencing you want. you're not going to stop the problem. here's the face of the enemy, folks. the president wants you to be
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afraid of the migrant. here's the truth. you need to be afraid for them. they're coming with false hope and in most cases nowhere to turn. they're dealing with a system that can't handle them and a president who wants them treated like ants in a kitchen. now you know. now congress knows. what will you demand? what will they do? i'm going to go back. if these numbers come true, you have to see the reality. i hope they don't. i hope the projections that we showed you tonight are off. but if they do come to fruition, congress, it is time to do your damn job. you know the president has been selling something else. i know that people don't expect anything better from the system right now. please show the american people they are wrong. do your damn job. address this situation. all right. that's my argument. i've got more time for you tonight. how about a bonus hour of

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