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steve king voted present, that means he wouldn't take a position. king not wanting to vote on the resolution or take a position is the only part of this that makes sense. this is why so many of you are turned off. this should have been easy but nothing is easy these days. can't call out your own because the other side is worse. can't call out one problem without others getting the same attention. even though they were not involved in the instance that was supposed to be addressed. and we can't get the right and left to come together even to say we should not hate on minorities. look, the resolution passed, okay, that's the good news. but if you can't get unanimous consent on not bashing jews and muslims and other minorities, what will they ever agree on unanimously? we wonder why you won't get a veto proof margin of republicans to oppose a national emergency order that they know is an overreach, why both sides can't
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address what they now know is a crisis involving kids on the border, why people who support the president have endless appetite for his lies. here's the answer. ugly politics of competing agendas and the avarice for political agenda that puts party before the people. it makes americans believe congress doesn't work, and that they should not expect anything better from congress or even a president. this should have been obvious, unanimous, congress, please do your damn jobs. with that, how about another supersized edition of primetime? i'm chris cuomo, let's go. you know who's having a better than expected night, paul manafort, go figure, the president's former campaign chair, got an easy sentence relatively by one judge and no one was expecting that. now, our judges are seated in cuomo's court with reaction and projection of what comes next.
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democrats, how are they looking heading into 2020? can the warring factions you knight? are they really warring? where does a democrat in a deep red state stand on all of the apparent tu multi-in their party? does he see a path together? we're bringing in senator doug jones on exactly that. and a joe biden alert, in or not? looks like we're very close. how close? he gave us a number. let's get after it. ♪ paul manafort may not spend the rest of his life in prison, even though that's what mueller asked for. he got a sentence far less than the 20 something years they wanted, he got 47 months and credit for time served, knocking it down to just about three years, maybe even less with special programs once he gets in. he still faces a lot of time from a judge next week in d.c. but this is, no doubt, a victory for him relatively. let's bring in cuomo's court,
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neil katyal, and harry litman. neil, am i wrong, i'm saying manafort got it easy. i know there was a day where this type of time for these types of charges, but when they were asking for a quarter century, four years seems good. >> it wouldn't describe it as a victory. he obviously got a much lower sentence than what mueller asked. but as you point out they've got next week before judge jackson because manafort committed so many crimes, he's being tried in two places, not one, and has already agreed he was guilty of those crimes this d.c. that's one thing. and then the second, and i think the most important thing, is i wouldn't think this is a victory for donald trump by any stretch. i mean, it's remarkable what happened today, a federal judge said trump's number one person, head of his campaign, is going to jail for 47 months. >> all right.
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>> but if obama's top person went to jail even for one day, david plosser or david axelrod or something like that, we'd still be hearing about it. >> we're hearing about it even though it didn't happen. the point is, all this stuff, while legal, has a political coloring of it as well and the republicans are saying this is proof that mueller was overreaching. and he just doesn't have what they think he has. do you think that's a fair argument? >> no, but i think it's one that maybe the judge bought. i mean, the crimes, it wasn't what mueller asked for, the 19 to 24 years, mueller took no position. it's what the guidelines provided for. i've been in front of judge ellis and had my head handed to me. but nothing like -- this was an 80% reduction and the magnitude combined with the caprice of it, he really gave very little reason for such a slashing. and it did lead to the supposition, based in part on how he treated the prosecution during the trial, that he just didn't like the case. and, you know, that's not a
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valid basis for departing so remarkably and exorbitantly. >> these are the arguments coming back your way, neal, that the republicans are saying, look, smaller sentence because this was an exaggerated wrong. and by the way, no charges against manafort for anything having to do with the behavior of collusion which means it ain't there because this is the one guy you had. >> i mean, in what world does that -- you know, the president's number one goes to jail for only four years and that's considered somehow proof of a witch hunt or something like that? today's decision underscores exactly the wisdom of appointing special counsel mueller whose job has been to follow the facts, try this, this case was tried to a jury, manafort tried all these defenses and they failed. >> he didn't charge him with anything related to the campaign. is that relevant? >> well, remember there are charges in d.c. there's two different cases.
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the d.c. charges, and particularly as they've been kind of amended because manafort lied to mueller even after he pled guilty, do start to actually center on those questions. so, you know, this is just one chapter in a longer book. and i think it would be very premature for the republicans to somehow claim victory when their number one campaign official is going to jail. >> is this a little bit of a window into, harry, the idea that you're going to have a lot of unanswered things when mueller is all done? that you're not going to know the answer to what the president knew and what he didn't know, what may be going on with different types of coordination with stone, or even manafort, with kilimnik and dara passca that it will wind up opening a window into oversight. >> that's a real worry, manafort, in addition to his crimes and to answer your question to neal, it doesn't matter, these were serious financial crimes and they were connected to his whole sort of
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misadventures in the ukraine. but even so, he notably failed to cooperate and kind of stuck his nose out at the justice system and lied to mueller and got away with it. so i would think that could potentially encourage other behavior. it feels like we've got to find out from one source or another. but one of the ones we were counting on, where mueller's charges in court. and you're right, this chapter ends with manafort having kept quiet and being able to not have given up anything of any significance. >> let me get one more thing to you and then i want neal to -- let me do this. neal, you button it up. harry, michael cohen, do you believe they have him on making a false statement before congress again? >> no, not -- it's not good enough. the -- they don't have materiality on the perjury charge. it's really kind of penny-ante, and anybody can refer, i don't see it going anywhere.
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>> neal, final point. >> i agree with that. the one other thing i'd say about manafort is that today he did something remarkable, he didn't say he was sorry, express any remorse or anything. the only way to understand that kind of behavior, it seems to me, is he is angling for a pardon and the pardon hook is literally dangling out of manafort's mouth right now. that's what the strategy has been. this is a guy who's pardoned sheriff joe arpaio, and i think that's what manafort is really hoping for. >> he doesn't have to pardon him today, he can pardon him at any point he wants in his term. >> 100%. >> gentlemen, thank you for making us smarter and better. we're seeing the democrats face their first big internal crisis since taikiking the hous. i'm going to bring in a unique voice from the other end of congress to offer his insight. alabama senator doug jones. he's going to also update his
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and speaking with survivors. democratic senator doug jones from alabama, thank you for taking the time. how are you doing? what are the needs? how can people watching right now help? >> well, chris, thanks and thanks for asking about that. it's been a long day. it's been a very emotional day. i mean, unless you have toured this damage, and i know you've seen devastation like this before, it just takes your breath away and to talk to survivors, talk to the -- and to hear the stories of survivorship and also the stories of all of the first responders who went in there to see the damage, to go to the hospital, visit with people who survived, people who were out there serving meals to first responders who had just lost loved ones, it's just a remarkable story and this is a resilient area, a resilient town, they'll do fine, they'll rebuild. we appreciate everybody's thoughts and prayers for us and the red cross and all of the ema, lee county ema has just done a remarkable job.
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the cleanup has started. they're going to start, and going to rebuild and going to, you know, make this town even stronger than it has been. >> well, just know, senator, it's not uncommon but it's certainly called for here. as you find specific things that are short, you want to get word out, you don't have to come on the show. i know you're busy. of course i'm going to chase you about other things. so i know you want to take the opportunities judiciousr ly. but you can get us any time, pass along the information and we'll put it out to the audience. >> thanks, chris. >> we'll make sure we're tracking progress as well. know that, that's a matter of fact. >> well, thank you. >> now let's turn to politics. let me start with something else, general, general. your party, my suggestion is that the party does not know for sure who it is going into 2020. i know everybody's a big tent when you don't have consensus. but this is one heck of a big tent that you guys have.
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are you concerned about coming together? >> no, i'm not really concerned. you know, look, there are a lot of voices in both parties right now. and those parties, we've got some very talented people and i think sooner or later we're going to coalesce around a candidate to move this country forward. all these candidates are talking to people and listening to people. they're not just going out there and telling people what they want to hear, they're going out there and listening to people. every candidate i know that's out there is on a listening tour. they're trying to gauge the public and they want to make sure that if they're the nominee that they're going to be in the best position to actually govern this country and to make sure they're in the right path to do the right thing. i think this is an early process. you're going to have a lot of voices out there. that's not untypical. weave seen we've seen it in the past and we'll come together. >> does your party need joe
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biden to enter the race? >> you know, you're asking maybe someone who's pretty biased. joe's been a friend of mine for many, many years. i think he is an incredibly strong public servant and leader. he's got a voice that appeals to a lot of people that can bring a lot of people together across races, religions, gender, you name it. i think joe would be an outstanding candidate. but more importantly for years i've thought he would be an outstanding president. >> so you look at 2018. it's not a knock on joe biden's credentials. but it is a referendum on what he represents, you know, you look at 2018, a ton of women, younger, diversity, diversity of opinion, they're very far out on the left, he checks none of those boxes. does that concern you? >> no, i don't think -- it doesn't concern me at all. i think if you look at history, i'm not sure the people of alabama as a whole are necessarily looking that way. they want somebody who can lead.
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they want somebody who can make sure that they've got the experience necessary to bring us together, to govern this country and to do it in a way that we have respect for institutions of government. we've seen transitions before. this may be that time after eisenhower, we became kennedy. people are looking for a leader, regardless of their age, regardless of where they are i think they're looking for a leader and somebody that can govern. in that standpoint i think people in the democratic party really people in america are going to look for that person who can best govern. they want to get things done, chris, that's the main thing. and out of everybody out there, joe biden seriously has the experience of talking to people on both sides of the aisle and governing and getting things done. that's a very, very important trait that often gets overlooked in the specifics of this, or the specifics of that and issue about issue. >> i want to get your take on something you weren't a part of in terms of politics, this house resolution 183.
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i had a closing argument in the last hour. it should have been a no brainer. it should have been unanimous. what happened there? i see it as a malignancy on the political process. you tell me, how did something that started off as simple as, don't go bashing jews here, we're going to call that out, we're not about that in this party or in this congress, get so complicated? >> you know, that's a tough question. i think it got complicated a lot because we've got social media and media to help complicate the process. >> media, how? >> well, because we're talking about it now. instead of moving on and talking about the races and talking about the issues. we talked about our tornados, but we're not talking about health care. we're not talking about jobs, we're not talking about the economy, we're not talking about trying to expand medicaid in the state of alabama and we're talking about an issue that got a lot of attention, and now it's done, it needs to move over. people call out hate, they call it out all the time. i don't know if it took a resolution of congress to get past that. i don't think it should have,
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necessarily. and i'm not sure that it matters whether it's unanimous or not. we don't -- our constitution was not set up, our government's not set up to have a unanimous government all the time. we have differences of opinion. we need to voice those differences. do it in a way where we can disagree without being disagreeable and move on and let's get out of our corners and talk to each other and let's get something done. >> look, you know what this show's about, we talk about everything that matters and give it more time than anybody else. when you can't have a unanimous vote on intolerance, it speaks to a real problem with the system right now. you're right, it all matters, senator. thank you, and please remember what i said, let us know how people can help. >> thanks, chris, i appreciate that very much and we'll take you up on it. >> senator, be well and god bless the people of alabama. so you've got the senator there, he was with us from one of the hard hit regions in alabama, the same region where
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le sean wilson, remember her. >> i've lost family members, we've lost close friends. all of my neighbors around me. it's just -- it's a lot to process. i'm hopeful we can get past this and i'm just counting on that faith that it will keep us strong, we'll hold together and we'll make it through. >> amazing to live through and now just as difficult to move forward. we've got to stay connected. the tornado destroyed her home and her mom's home next door. they hid in a bathroom, winds whipping through lee county where they were. we checked in with her today. she has a fractured ankle. i don't know if you remember that night. and she ripped her miniskus. she tells us she and the family are doing okay, she says spiritually and emotionally. her mom's out of the hospital. now the big worry is finding a place to live. they did get to talk with fema
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today, amazingly le sean says she is still thankful. we're going to keep in touch and let you know what she needs and what so many other people like her family need. we'll keep you updated. we have to stay connected. a dozen democrats are running for president. big names could still join the mix. but you've got the person in there, and the message. messenger and message. what is that substance? can it just be about trump is no good? what makes them better? great debate next.
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if so, when? what do you say? sounds like a great reason for a great debate. good to have you both. let's start with message and then get to messenger. is it fair for me to say your party hasn't figured out who they are and what they want? >> no, not at all. just because you have diversity, doesn't mean you have division. there's a challenge of having tough conversations. in a primary you have those conversations in public. that happens in congress. at the end of the day that's the point of a primary process. to have the conversation, hone your message and come forward with a consensus candidate that will speak to the issues. we saw that work as democrats in the midterms, record voter turnout, women who went for trump, now going for democrats, when democrats, when people vote in general, democrats tend to
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win because democrats in the midterms were focusing on health care. they were not directly running against trump. but it's hard with the kind of president you have right now to not have that always be in the background as noise. >> are you worried at all, nayyera staying with you one second, looking at 2018, you're right, ton of women, a lot of diversity, what if that new population within the party and elected office says we don't want the older white guy to represent us, do don't you just see what happened, the party of the new and young and multiculturalism, he doesn't check those boxes, now what? >> it's fascinating to see the dynamic play out. especially with the millennials being the largest bloc of voters. any candidate will have to thread the needle to appeal to boomers and the generation that's woke up woke. bernie sanders shockingly managed to do that and has expanded the conversation well
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beyond what it was in twa2016, parameters of policies we're talking about. he as an elder man has a coalition of a colored and young people. >> he's raising millions across the country. but now he's got a lot of people who sound like him running, but they don't look like him. niger, the president says joe biden, big smile, listen to this. >> i dream about biden. that's a dream. look, joe biden ran three times, he never got more than 1%. and president obama took him out of the garbage heap. i'd love to have it be biden. >> do you believe that -- i can't get past the part of him dreaming about biden. what do you think about the biden matchup, why is the president so giddy about that? >> look, if we're talking about joe biden when you and i were in college back in 1988 when he ran briefly for the democratic nomination, i think the president would have a
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formidable challenge. the problem is, joe biden is going to have a debate with himself. because the joe biden of back then, of 1988 and, of course, you have tapes going all the way back to the 1970s where he talks about desegregation in a way that is intolerable in today's democratic party, today's joe biden is going to have to twist himself into an ideological pretzel to appeal to the most radical elements within the democratic party, not just the radic radical elementsh but actually the base, and even the majority of the democratic party. so i think, you know, by the time biden finishes debating himself from what he said decades ago, and a couple of decades ago and maybe even a few years ago, and tries to appeal to that radical element within the democratic party, by the way, diversity is fine. i'm for diversity. but i'm not for diversity when it's based on being hostile to white males and unfortunately
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that identity politics that dominates the democratic party today is not a democratic party that welcomes heterosexual white males. >> nyyera i'm seeing you do the slow blink of disagreement. >> i'm shocked. >> unpack each point of disagreement, please. >> it is very easy to fall into the trap of saying it's just about how people look and that's what diversity is. you will find a vast array of candidates, multiple women, not just one woman this time, multiple white men, and each of them bringing different things to the table. sherrod brown was effectively a one issue candidate, talking about dignity of work, others talking about climate change. they're throwing this out there to come up with something that builds a stronger platform that represents what the american public looks like, talks like and thinks like right now. this is not a traditional contest between the republican party we used to know and the
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democratic party we're looking to create. this is against trumpism and the rest of us. that's the reality of the binary choice in 2020, and that's going to resonate with voters across the board. >> the one -- >> i wish. >> go ahead, niger. >> i wish she was right. she brought up sherrod brown, i'm glad she did. i was reading an article in the "new york times" why he dropped out of the race, and he actually had a moment of clarity and honesty and he pointed to his face, and he says i can't change this, the fact he's a white, heterosect yu hetero sexual male. a democratic party that fully embraces socialism, some elements extreme abortion. racial quotas, racial reparations, afraid to condemn anti-semitism on the one hand, but on the other hand believe in a palestinian state from the jordan river to the mediterranean sea which would effectively end the jewish
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state. that the the energy, i'm not saying every democrat, and certainly nyya does not fall into this category. but in terms of the energy -- you're going to get it now. >> you cast as a general thing. let her respond. do you believe that that's where your party's coming from, what niger just jououtlined? >> that's rhetoric from the right, what we heard at cpac, it's a gap between living wage and everybody trying to take away your hamburgers. the extremes are coming from the white house. biden attempting to jump into the race who has impeccable national security credentials, coming from the national security committee, welcomed to resolve our hardest challenges, for him to come into a race against a candidate running after dictators offers an alternative.
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a black woman running a law and order candidate. so many different elements of -- >> domestic and international policy where people have legitimate experience versus the guy who ran the apprentice and doesn't have it together to full together infrastructure. >> niger, we were talking about hamburgers. who said i'll gladly give you two hamburgers for a hamburger today. >> wimpy from popeye. >> both of you, appreciate it, well argued. two of r. kelly's girlfriends rush to his defense in a bizarre new interview where the singer stood in the back coughing, or really trying to control? i'm going to get dl hughley's take on that in the state of play in our political culture, next. nice hat. is.
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more trouble for r. kelly off camera. detroit police are now investigating a new allegation against the r&b star, the possible sexual assault of a 13-year-old in 2001. comes on the heels of that wild on air implosion with cbs's gayle king. new video came out today. this time their interviews with two women who say they're in love with r. kelly and are standing by him. however, king flagged something that we weren't able to hear. listen to this. >> his team had told us that r. kelly would not be in the room. after the interview started he was around the corner, behind them, they couldn't see him. but it points -- at points during the conversation he would cough very loudly like that so they were aware he was there. >> he wanted them to know -- he tried to stop the interview backstage a couple times. >> yeah, a couple times. >> joining me now for some
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perspective, actor, comedian, d.l. hughley. >> good to see you. if i was r. kelly i would stay so far away from gayle king. that was a horrible interview, didn't work for him at all. >> it wasn't her fault. >> it looked like every man is trying to convince a woman like that. you can see him going robert, robert. all she didn't say, do i look like a fuel? at a certain point -- >> she stayed professional. he got a break in that regard. my feeling is if she had reacted like she may have, unusual for someone to stand up and waving around, being angry, hostile to the process, she could have seemed, you know, frightened, and that would have been even worse for him. however here's my thing. if you didn't do anything wrong, i don't think that's how you behave. >> no. look, i don't know what he hoped to gain from that. it was funny to me because i
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don't know who had the best performance, jussie smollett. >> i believe more people believed jussie until the two dudes showed up. and they told fast. didn't they? not waiting at all. let me tell you what happened. they told right away. they told faster than michael cohen, they wasn't playing at all. they wasn't playing. i'm not getting to the point for this dude. >> what is the chance that smollett's story hangs with any truth? >> listen, i can't -- i wasn't there, much like i can say. >> did you need to be there to know? >> i believe it's false and i think that obviously, you know, a great deal of people do. i wasn't there. like there are so many people who refuse, like a lot of people remind me of trump supporters, repuz re fuse to see what's in front of them. jussie smollett, i believe, told a lie. i think that r. kelly and
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michael jackson are both -- even if you don't believe they did it, let's air on this side. even if you don't believe either of them are pedophiles, they're both horrible baby sitters. i won't stop listening to your music, but i'm not dropping my kids off at your day care center. >> should you stop listening to the music? >> no. >> people asking black people how can you sing r. kelly and michael jackson after all the horrible things they did, the same way i can sing the national anthem. when i grew up, if there was mold on the bread, and probably you too, you couldn't throw the bread away, scrape that off and ate the rest. there are memories connected to those artists. i got married to those artists. >> the music is more than the man. >> the music is more than the art. it's like -- so there are connections that i've made, a lot of that music is the sound track of many people's lives. i can understand that. >> i get it. and you're talking about two people that have absolutely no
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limitations on reach. >> right. >> jackson and r. kelly and the r&b world, white, black, green, yellow, creed or color, you appreciate their music. >> it says where we are as a nation when in order for people to get outraged, even if you look at the dates of the allegations he's faced, they were almost -- some of them were 20 years ago. >> yeah? >> why is it took a documentary for us to get enraged? why is r. -- >> cull tur shift? >> all of those allegations that were made were made a long time ago and people knew them. >> it's culture shift, people silenced viekts. >> not the victims, the reaction of the american population. our empathy is directly connected to our remote control. like if you saw those documentaries, and then all of a sudden you went back and got -- those same things were available 20 years ago, if we cared about children then we would have realized. >> this is a shift.
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do i have time to play the sound? this is the new shift in this. gayle king doesn't just have r. kelly, she's got women standing by his side, listening to this. >> you're saying the parents handed their daughters over to you, is that what you're saying to us? >> absolutely. >> when i first met robert, my parents told me to lie about my age. >> everything that she's saying is true. our parents are basically out here just to get money. >> so now what's going on with that? >> they are horrible people. >> is that the truth? do you think the parents did that or do you think these are people who want to defend r. kelly who are throwing their parents under the bus because of the control mechanism? >> i don't think it's possible for me to say without a doubt what happened. it's not unbelievable that some parents would put their kids in that situation. not unbelievable at all. look at the parents who let michael jackson sleep in a bed with their children. parents that did it. i think if you are that kind of
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parent, because the only job as a parent is to make sure they're all right. if they did do it it speaks, again, to this culture and this love of fame and this blindness to things that we see clearly in front of us. that's a horrible thing for those -- can you imagine the choice they had to make? you're asking me to believe that they dropped dime on their parents to save him? and if they did -- >> a theory. >> i'm not saying, but if they did, that would be horrible. what would be more horrible if they're actually telling the truth, if those parents actually sacrificed them to a monster. and in the catholic religion, they know the priests are doing that, and still bring their kids to them. >> we have to see where it goes. the day will come, my friend, where we will be discussing something we're both overjoyed about. >> when i saw the manafort sentencing, black people get 47 months for stealing a pack of
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gum. and we get killed for stealing cigarettes. i think it speaks -- when you talk about bias in the legal system. a 70-year-old white guy, has empathy for him, obviously he had some level of sympathy for him. that doesn't happen, you know, across the -- they see a kinship with one another. there's no way all the crimes he's accused of that he should just get 47 months. >> it's not over yet. >> even the fact you would say after the things he's accused of, 54 weeks a year he could get 54 days a year -- he could be out in three years. >> and special programs once he gets in. >> let me finish up the show and let's you and i have a drink to talk about something good. find something good. >> there is something good. i just turned 55. >> d.l. hughley, with a double nickel. and how long have you been married? >> 33 years. >> 33 years. 55 years old. god bless, huh?
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cillizza, senator booker and harris, who generates more buzz? >> harris. i think booker is the most natural gifted and charismatic speaker. harris right now, we had her number one in our rating for five straight months. she's the candidate who has the full package right now that looks the most like the democratic party of 2018 and 2020. >> all right, do we have the poll numbers just to show what the state of play is right now? if biden enters the race, he pops on top of sanders and bernie sanders is like 19% or 20% and everybody drops in the single digits kind of fast. does that mean biden has a better 60/40 shot of getting the nomination? >> i would put it around
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50/50-ish. i will remind you in '08, the person on the top to feel poll was rudy giuliani. some of that is a function of name id. the danger for biden is twofold, he just bleeds support. number two, kamala harris, is an african-american, indian woman american who has a prosecutory background and bernie sanders, an 86 years old man. >> you tell me, who do you think they'll nominate, good looking? >> the answer is kamala harris. i don't know if bernie sanders wears all that well overtime. i know that'll blow my twitter mentions up. it is just a fact.
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i don't know that he does. my three people, kamala harris, joe biden, if you put a robot on, they'll tell you based on polling and trends. >> what about beto? >> i think he could -- i actually think if he announced shortly after he lost the senate race, it would have been better. to me, he's kind of like an emo 2020 candidate. my dark horse is amy klobachar. she's mid-western great and you need to win iowa if you are not beto, biden and kamala. you need to win iowa. if you do, you have a real chance going forward. she has a real chance to win there. >> favorite book, and favorite
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with his own album -- like this guy. ♪ i hope you can appreciate how freakin' amazing this is. i am a drummer. he's better than i am right now. justin l. jay wilson ii. he's practicing for the warriors game. he got 360,000 instagram followers. not only he's good finding the beat with the drums, take a look at him breaking it down waiting for the start of the game. he's four. finally it was time for the drummer boy doing his thing. just listen to this.
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come on, both of his parents are musicians, i say so what? what a gift that kid has. i hope he keeps working with it. cnn tonight starts right now. four years old, we beoth have kids. >> all right, that's very special but just imagine that at your house. >> all day and all night, ill love it. >> i guess that's true. maybe better than some of the screaming that goes on in my house. >> all right, you have a good weekend mr. cuomo. >> you, too. >> this is "cnn tonight" in for don lemon, i am erin

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