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and white supremacy. whereas instances that were clear references to the president. and then on top of that speaker pelosi said this. >> and i thought the resolution should be in large the issue to anti-semitism, etc. and that it should not mention her name and that's what we're working on is one resolution addressing these forms of hatred because it's not about her, it's about these forms of hatred. >> so what started out as a reaction to omar now not about omar. pelosi went further saying the comments that prompted the resolution against anti-semitic speech were not intended by omar to be anti-semitic. so now the only people nomed in the dozens of graphs of whereas
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is, is dr. king who taught us that attacking any american is attacking the freedom of all. in a resolution that was supposed to be about calling out the ofenders, not a resitation of the victim. the process and what some members of the gop freedom caucus saw as parent hypocrisy led to two dozen republicans condemning intolerance. small irony, steve king didn't take a position. that's the only part of this that makes sense. this should have been easy but nothing is easy these days. can't call out your own because the other side is worse. can't call out one problem without others getting the same attention, even though they were not involved in the instance
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that was supposed to be addressed. and we can't get the right and left to come together, even to say we should not hate on minorities. look, the resolution passed. that's good news. but if you can't get unanimous consent on not bashing jews and muslims and other minorities, what will they ever agree on unanimously? we wonder why you won't get a veto proof margin to oppose an over reach. why people who support the president have endless appetite for his lies. here's the answer. ugly politics of competing agendas and political advantage that puts party before the people. it makes americans believe congress doesn't work and they should not expect anything from congress or a president.
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this should have been obvious. congress, please do your dam jobs. with that, how about another super sized addition of primetime. you know who's having a better than expected night? paul manafort. central figure in the russia probe got an easy sentence relatively by one judge. and no one was expecting that. now our judges are seated uncuomo's court with reaction . democrats, how are they looking come nothing to 2020? can the warring factions unite? where does the democrat in a deep red state stand on all of the parent tumult in their party? does he see a path together? we're going to bring in senator doug jones and we have a joe biden alert. looks like we're very close.
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how close? he given a us a number. let's get after it. paul manafort may not spend the rest of his lifer in prison, even though that's what mueller asked for. he got a sentence far less than 20 years. and credit for time serves knocking it down to three years, maybe less. he still faces a lot of time from a judge next week in d.c. so let's bring in cuomo's court and harry litman. gentleman, thank you. neal, am i wrong? i'm saying manafort got it easy. i know there was a day when charge seemed harsh. but four years seemed pretty good. >> i wouldn't describe it as a victory. he obviously got much lower
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sentence than what mueller asked. but they've got next week before judge jackson because manafort is being tried in two places, not one and already agreed he was gulty of those crimes in d.c. and the most important is i would rnt think this is a victory for donald trump. a federal judge said trump's number one person, numero uno, head of the campaign is going to jail for 47 months. if obama's top person went to jail for one day, david axelrod or something like that, we'd still be hearing about it. >> all of this stuff, while legal, has a political coloring of it as well. and republicans are saying this is proof mueller was over reaching and he doesn't have what they think he has. you think that's a fair
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argument? >> no but i think it's one maybe the judge bought. it's not what mueller asked for. mueller took no position. it's what the guidelines provided for. this is an 80% reduction and the magnitude combine would the cupreece of it, he gave very little reason for such a slashing and it did lead to supsition based in part on how he treated the prosication that he just didn't like the case and that's not a valid basis for departing so remarkably. >> so these are the arguments coming back your way. republicans are saying smaller sentence because this was an exaggerated wrong and by the way no charges against manafort for anything having to do with the behavior of collusion which means it ain't there because this is the one guy you have.
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>> in what world is it that the president's numero uno goes to jail only four years and that's proof of a witch hunt? i think today's decision underscores exactly the wisdom of appointing special counsel mueller whose job is to follow the facts. this was tried to a jury. manafort tried all these defenses -- >> but he didn't try him for anything relative to the campaign? >> there's two different case cases and the d.c. charges, in particularly as they've been amended because manafort lied to mueller, even after he pled guilty, do start to center on those questions. this is one chapter in a longer book. and i think it would be premature to claim victory when their number one campaign officials is going to jail. >> the idea that you're going to
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have a lot of unanswered things when mueller is all done. and you're not going to know 24 answer to what the president knew and didn't know. what may be going on with different types of coordination with stone or manafort, kew lmnik and deripaska and it's going to open a window into oversight. >> so that's a real worry. it doesn't matter. these were serious financial crime they were connected to the misadventures in the ukrain. but even so he notably failed to cooperate and stuck nose out at the justice system and lied to mueller and got away with it. i think that could potentially encourage other behavior. we've got to find out from one source or another. and you're right this chapter
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ends with manafort having kept kwut and being able to not have given us anything of any significance. >> let me do this and neal, you button it up. do you believe they have him on making a false statement? >> it's not good enough. they don't have mysteriality and anybody can refer. i don't see it going anywhere. >> and i agree with that. one other thing i'd say about manafort is today he did something remarkable. he didn't say he was sorry for any remorse or anything. he is angling for a pardon and it's literally dangling out of manafort's mouth right now and that's what the strategy has been and this is a guy who
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pardoned arpaio oeand i think that's what -- >> and he doesn't have to pardon them today. >> 100%. >> gentleman, thank you for mocking making us smarter and better. we're seeing the democrats face their first big internal crisis since taking the house. alabama senator doug jones. he's going to also update his state's recovery from the deadly tornados. tremfya® is for adults with remoderate. to severe plaque psoriasis. with tremfya®, you can get clearer. and stay clearer. in fact, most patients who saw 90% clearer skin at 28 weeks stayed clearer through 48 weeks. tremfya® works better than humira® at providing clearer skin and more patients were symptom free with tremfya®. tremfya® may lower your ability to fight infections and may increase your risk of infections.
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roundup brand. trusted for over 40 years. tonight alabama is still reeling. president trump is expected to tour after he called for fema to give alabama the a-plus treatment. on the ground someone who's been touring the destruction and speaking to survivors. thank you for taking the time. how are you doing? what are the needs? how can people watching right now help? thanks for asking. sgl -- >> i know you've seen dev station like this before. it takes your breath away.
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to hear the stories of survivors and all the first responders who went in there to see the damage, go to the hospital, visit with people who survived. people who are out there serving meals to first responders. it's a remarkable story and this is a resilient town. they're going to rebuild. and the red cross. lee county has done a remarkable job. the clean up has started. make this town even stronger than it has been. >> it's not uncommon but it's called for here. as you find specific things, you want to get word out, you don't have to come on the show. i know you're busy. i know you want to take the opportunity judiciously. but you can get us anytime, pass along the information.
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we'll put it out for the audience and make sure that we're tracking the progress as well. so know that's a matter of fact. and now let's turn to politics. jenny, your party, my suggestion is the party does not know efor sure who it is going into 2020. i know everybody's a big ten but this is a heck of a big tent. are you concerned about coming together? >> no, i'm not really concerned. there's voices unboth parties and we got very talented people and i think sooner or later we're going to coalesce around the candidate that's going to lead the country forward. people are just now starting the process. the good thing is all the candidates are going out and talking to people, listening to
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people. they're not just telling them what thaw want to hear. every candidate i know that's out there is on a listening tour. and they want to make sure if they are the nominee that they're going to be in the best position to govern this country and make sure they're in the right path and do the right thing. you're going to have a lot of vouss out there right now. we've seen this before in the past and we'll come together. >> does your party need joe biden to enter the race? >> you're asking maybe someone who's pretty biassed. joe's been a friend of mine for many, many years. i think he has an incredibly strong public servient, leader. i think he's got a voices that appeals to a lot of people that can bring a lot of people together across races, religion, gender, you name it. i think joe would be an outstanding candidate but for
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years i thought he would be an outstanding president. >> so you look at 2018. it is a referendum on what he represents. a ton of women, younger, diversity of opinion o. they're very far out on the left. he checks none of those boxes. does that concern you? >> no, it doesn't concern me at all. i'm not sure the people of alabama as a whole are looking that way. they want somebody who can make sure more than the experience necessary to govern this country and do it una way that we have respect for institutions of government. we've seen transitions before. right now i think people are looking for a leader, regardless of their age, where they are. i think they're looking for a leader and somebody that can govern.
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i think people in the democratic party, really people in america are going to look for that person that can best govern. and out of everybody out there, joe biden seriously has the experience of talking to people on both sides of the aisle and governing and getting things done and i think that's a very important trait that often gets over looked in the specifics of this or the specifics of that and issue by issue. >> i want to -- this house resolution 183 had a closing argument. should have been unanimous. i see it as a malignancy on the political process. how did something that started as simple as don't go bashing jews. we're not about that in this party, in this congress, get so complicated? >> i think it got complicated a lot because we'veigate social
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media and media that helped complicate the process. >> how? >> because we're talking about it now instead of moving on and talking about the races and the issues. we talked about tornados but not jobs, health care, economy. we're not talking about trying to expand medicaid in the state of alabama. and we're talking about something that got a lot of attention. people call out hate all the time. i don't know if it's a resolution of congress to get past that. and i'm not sure it matters whether it's unanimous or not. our constitution, our government is not set up to have a unanimous government all the time. we have differences of opinion e. we need voice those differences and do it in a way where we can move on and let's get out of of our corners and gelt something done. >> we talk about everything that matters and we'll give it time than anybody else, but when you
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can't have a unanimous vote on decrying intolerance, that speaks to a real problem with the system now. but you're right it all matters and you're welcome to talk about what matters here. and let us know how people can help. >> thanks, chris. and we'll take you up on it. >> be well and god bless the people of alabama. we have the senator with us from one of the hard-hit regions in alabama. the same region where lesean wilson remember her? >> we've lost close friends, all of my neighbors around me, it's a lot to process. i'm just hopeful we can get past this and i'm counting on that faith that it will keep it strong and pull together. >> amazing to live through and just as difficult.
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the tornado destroyed our home and mom's home next door. winds ripping through where they were. so we checked in with lesean. and she rupped her meniscus that's in her knee, often requires surgery. her house flattened out on her. she and the family are doing okay spiritually and emotionally. mom's out of the hospital. now the big worry is finding a place to live. basically she's still thankful. we're going to keep untouch and let you know what she needs and what so many people like her family need. dozen democrats are now running for president. some big names could still join the mix. but you've got the person and the message. messenger and message. what is that substance?
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committed to running. that other 5% going to come? sounds like a great reason for a great debate. good to have you both. so let's start with message and then get to messenger. is it fair to say your party hasn't figured out who they are yet? >> no, just because you have diversity doesn't mean you have to have division. there's a challenge of having tough conversation and in a primary you have those conversations in public. we see that even in congress. but that's the point of a primary process is to have that conversation, hone your message and come forward with a consensus candidate and one that will sneak issues. women now going for the democrats. when people vote in general,
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democrats tend to win and that's because they're focusing on health care. but it's hard to not have that always be in the background as noise. a lot of diversity. what if that new population within the party in elected office says we don't want the older white guy to represent us. you see what happened? this is the party of the new, young, and multiculturism. >> it's fascinating to see that play out oespecially with millennials being the largest block of voters in 2020. how do you appeal to boomers who are evolving on these issues and the generation that has woke up woke. and bernie sanders has
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shockingly managed to do that and expanded the conversation well beyond what it was in 2016. and he, as an elder man, has a coalition of people of color and young people. >> he's raise millions across the country but now he has people who sound like him running but they don't look like him. now the president says joe biden, big smile. >> i dream about biden. that's a dream. look, joe biden ran three times. he never got more than 1% and president obama took him out of the garbage heap. i'd love to have it be biden. >> i can't get past the part about him dreaming of biden. what do you think of the biden march up. >> if we're talking about joe biden when i was in college in
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1988, i think the president would have a formidable challenge. the problem is biden is go having to a debate with himself because the joe biden of 1988 -- and you have tapes going back to the 1970s where he talks about a desegregation in a way that's init tolerable. today's joe biden is going to have to twist himself into an ideological pretzel which is the base and i would argue a majority of the democrat party. by the time biden finishes debating himself from what he said decades ago and maybe even a few years ago and tries to appeal to that radical element within the it democratic party -- by the way diversity is fine. i'm for diversity but not when it's based on being hostile to white males.
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and unfortunately that identity politics that dominates the democratic party is not one that's welcomed het rosexual white males. >> unpack each point of disagreement. >> it is easy to fall into the trap of saying it's just how people look and you will find multiple women, multiple white men and some, like brown, who was a one-issue candidate talking about dignity of work, one talking about climate change. they're going to try to come up with something that frankly represents what the american public looks luke, talks luke and thinks like right now. this is not a traditional
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contest between the republican party we used to know and the democratic party we're looking to dreate. this is against trumpism the rest of us. that's the reality of the binary choice in 2020 and that's going to resonate across the board. >> go ahead. >> i was going to say i wish she was right. brown made my point. i was reading an article about why he dropped out and he had a moment of clarity and honesty and pointed to his face and says i can't change this. the fact he's a white heterosexual male. some have an extreme abortion, racial reparations, afraid to condemn anti-semitism on one hand but on the other believe in a palestinian state from the jordan river to the
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mediterranean sea which would effectively end the jewish state. and i'm not saying every democrat and certain nya doesn't fall into this category >> you're going to get it now. let her respond. do you believe that's where your party is coming from? >> no. i think that's rhetoric from right. there's a not even gap. a chasm between having a conversation about living wage and everybody trying to take away your hamburgers. extremes of rhetoric are largely coming from the white house. biden attempting to jump in to the race who has impeccable national security credentials and was welcome when he travelled over seas to help us resolve hard challenges. to come against someone running after dictators is offering a
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alternative. you have a black woman stiebl run as a law and order candidate. so many different aspects of demistic and international policy coming to the table where people have legitimate experience verses the guy who ran "the apprentice" and still hasn't managed to pull together infrastructure. >> we were talking about hamburgers there. who said i'll gladly give you two hamburgers tuesday for a hamburger today? >> wednesday from popeyes. >>ious. in a bizarre new interview where the singer stood in the back coughing for really trying to control? i'm going to get d.l. hughley's take and nice hat. it's a beautiful piece of land.
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more trouble for r. kelly off camera. detroit police are now investigating a new allegation. a possible sexual assault of a 13 year old in 2001. on the heel oz of that wild on-air implosion with cbs's gale king. this time their interviews with two women who say they're in love with r. kelly and are standing by him. however king flagged something that we weren't able to hear. listen to this. >> his team told us r. kelly would not be in the room. after the interview started, he was behind them. but it points in conversation, he would cough very loudly so they would know he was there. >> he tried to stop the interview.
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>> yeah a couple of times. >> d.l. hughley. >> if i was r. kelly i stay as far away from gale king. it looked like every man is trueing to convince a woman of sthung like that. the only thing she didn't say was do i like like a fool? he stayed professional and she wasn't hearing it. >> that's unusual for someone to stand up and being that angry, obviously hostile to the process. she could have seemed frightened and that would have been even worse for him. however, here's my thing. if you didn't do anything wrong, i don't -- >> i don't know what he hopes to gain from that. i don't know who had the best
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performance? >> let's compare. >> i believe more people believed jessy until the two nigerian dudes showed up. they told right away. they told faster than michael cohen. they snitched faster than 269. they're not playing. i'm not getting deported for this dude. >> what is the possibility that smollett's story hangs with any truth? >> i wasn't there. >> did you need be there? >> i believe it's false and a great deal of people do. like there's soman a people that -- like a lot of people remind me of trump supporters. they refuse to see what's in front of hum. the media -- listen. i think r. kelly and michael
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jackson -- even if you don't believe they did it. let's air on this side. they're both horrible baby sitters. we can agree with that, right? i ain't dropping my kids off at your day care. >> should you stop listening to the music if convicted? >> people asking black people how can you sing r. kelly and michael jackson songs after all the horrible things they did. the same way i can sing the national anthem. when i grew up you couldn't throw the bread away. there are memories conicted to those songs. i got married to those songs. music is more than that art. there are con -- a lot of that music the sound track ofmany people's lives. >> and you're talking about two people with no lim taugzs on
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reach. jackson and r. kelly, they go white, black, green, yellow o. >> and i think it says a lot about where we are as a nation where in order for people to get outraged, they were almost dash some of them were 20 years. why is it that it took a documentary for michael jackson? >> culture shift. >> people silenced victims. >> i'm talking about the reaction of the american population. like you saw those documentaries and then all the sudden you went back and got the same things and if we cared about children, we should have done something about it. >> this is -- do i have time to play the sound? this is the new shift in this.
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so gale king doesn't just have r. can cell a. she has women standing by his side. listen to this. >> you're sawing the parents handed their daughters over to you? is that what you're sawing to us? >> absolutely. >> when i first met robert, my parents told me to lie about my age. >> everything she's saying is true. our parents are becausically out here to get money. >> is that truth? do you think the parents did that or people throwing their parents under the bus because of the control mechanism? >> i don't think it's possible for me to say what -- but it's not unbelievable some parents would put their kids in that situation. look at the parents who let michael jackson sleep in the bed with their children. if you are that kind of
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parent -- your only job as a parent is to make sure they're all right. if they did, it speaks again to this culture and love of faand blindness to things in front of us. can you imagine the choice they had to make. you're asking me if they dropped dime on their parents and if they did, would be more horrible. and if they did, that would be more horrible. look at the people that would know priests are doing things. iticize a lot about society would take a documentary >> and we have to see how it goes. the day will come where we're discussing something we're both over joyed about. >> black people get 47 months.
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if we get killed for selling cigarettes and when you tell it us about bias in the legal system, a 77 year old white guy sees another one and has a level of sympathy for him. that doesn't happen. they see a kinship. there's no way all the crimes he's accused of he should get 47 months. even the fact -- 54 week as year dash 54 day as year, down to three years. >> and there's special programs once he gets in. let's funnish up the show and year going to have a drink and find something good. >> i just turned 55. look at that. >> d.l. hughley is a double nickel. how long have you been married? >> 33 years. >> 33 years and 55 years old. god bless you.
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58% of americans say they are not likely to vote for president trump in 2020 according to a new cnn poll. for democrats with presidential aspirations that means there is blood in the water. but who's got the best chance of capturing the nomination? three questions for chris cilliz cillizza. >> oh, yeah.
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>> senators booker and harris, who generates more buzz? >> harris. right now. i think booker has more potential to generate more buzz, chris, because i think he's the most naturally gifted charismatic speaker on the stump. that 3459ers in retail politics states, iowa, new hampshire, south carolina. but harris we've had her number one in our ratings for three straight months because i think she's the candidate who has the full package right now. that looks the most like the democratic party of 2018 and 2020. >> all right. do we have the poll numbers just to show what the state of play is right now? if biden enters the rates he pops to the top on top with sanders. i think he gets about 29%, 30%. bernie snders is at like 19, 20%. then everybody drops in the single digits kind of fast. does that mean biden has a better than 60-40 shot of getting the nomination? >> i'd put it around 50-50-ish based on what front-runners
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typically do. i'll remind you in '08 the person who would have been at top of that poll on the republican side was rudy giuliani. some of that's a foundation of name i.d. i think the danger for biden is twofold. one, is the first did i he gets in the race the best day he has in the race? does he just bleed support, bleed support, bleed support? that's number one. number two, kamala harris is an african-american indian-american woman from california who his has a prosecutorial background. joe biden is a 76-year-old white guy who spent 40-plus years in the senate and then was vice president for eight years. is that what the democratic party of 2018 to 2020 wants to nominate? >> you tell me. that's going to be my last question. who do you think they nominate, good-looking? >> i -- well, thank you. i think the answer to that is still kamala harris. the three people i think are the most like ly -- i don't know tht bernie sanders wears all that well over time. i know that will blow my twitter
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mentions up but it's just a fact. i don't no that he does. my three people, kamala harris and joe bide en, neither of which are terribly adventurous. you put anybody on, you put a robot on they'll probably tell you based on polling and drends. >> what about beto? >> okay. so i think he could -- i think if he had announced shortly after he lost the senate race it would have been better. to me this whole jack kerouac on the road, he's kind of like an emo 2020 candidate, hasn't played all that well. my dark horse, amy klobuchar. i know she's got a lot of bad press over her staff, but she's midwestern, grit and you need to win iowa if you are not beto, biden, kamala. you need to win iowa. if you do, you have a real chance going forward. she has a real chance to win there. unlike some of the other candidates. you've got to tell me a state you're going to win for me to believe you're going to be the nominee. >> favorite kerouac book, derma
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i hope you can appreciate how freakin' amazing this is. i am a drummer. he's better than i am right now. justin l.j. wilson ii. you can see here he's practicing for a warriors game. he's known as baby boy drummer on social media. he got 360,000 instagram followers. and that's not enough. not only is he good finding the beat with the drums, take a look at him breaking it down waiting fought sta for the start of the game. >> oh, okay. >> he's 4. finally it was time for the little drummer boy to do his thing. and just listen to this. ♪ i mean, come on.
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both of his parents are musicians. and i say so what? god bless. what a gift that kid has. i hope he keeps working with it. "cnn tonight" with erin burnett in for d-lemon starts right now. 4 years old. we both have kids. everybody thinks their kids are special. >> that is very special. but just imagine that in your house. >> all day. all night i'd love it. listen to the racket we have now in our house zblpz i guess that's true. it might be better than some of the screaming that goes on in my house. all right. you have a good weekend, mr. cuomo. >> you, too. >> this is "cnn tonight." i'm erin burnett in for don lemon once again. paul manafort, president trump's former campaign chairman, gets a stunning sentence
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