motorcade. the alabama highway patrol says the police department is investigating that accident. >> we feel better he is okay. thanks for starting your morning with us. >> smer consiconish is next. we'll see if you one hour for cnn "newsroom." i'm michael smerconish in philadelphia. six pounds, different eye wear, a new president and a plane still missing. a lot has happened in the past five years. this weekend you see is the anniversary of the launch of this program. it was also when mh-370 had just gone missing. in my opening commentary, my first words as a cnn host, i said this -- >> it's fitting that it should air on a saturday morning given our political climate. see, saturday mornings growing up in the philly suburbs back in the '70s, that's when my brother and i used to watch pro cress wrestling. we'd be down in our rec room

surrounded by cheap paneling sitting on these hideously colored bean bag chairs i think some shade of green. on tv we'd watch our heroes, head stacks calhoun or living legend bruno sam artino. today i work in the media equivalent of the pro wrestling i used to watch as a kid. five years ago i promised there would be no litmus tests here for watching the program. i lamented the polarized era in which we were living, never expecting things were about to get worse. but they have, among the media and politicians at least. we saw a great example, the dnc announced it was excluding fox news from its primary debate season. whether you think fox deserves it, because they exhibit such an tip think towards democrats --

antipathy, you have to admit, it's a testament to the divide. just remember, they are more divided than the rest of us. i speak of the politicians and their media enablers. and that's why gallup found in 2018, significantly more u.s. adults consider to identify as political independence. 42% that as either democrats, 30%, or republicans, 26%. at least four in 10 americans have been political independents in seven of the past eight years, including a record high 43% in 2014. so, no wonder an nbc news-"wall street journal" poll this week show that 38%, 38% say the two-party system is broken and the country needs a third party. the highest percentage since the question was first asked back in 1995. polarization continues because it rewards the practitioners, the loudest voices reach a loyal

base who comprise the primary ewillic tolectorate electorate. which is why politicians cow tore men with microphones. you and i are proving it can be otherwise. to be honest, i don't often win the cable ratings in my district, fox does. week after week, we do quite well here. i'd like to think we have proven you can receive a modicum of success without playing to the ideological fringes, by giving voice to everybody, including the exhausted majority who sit between the polar extremes. so, thank you for watching. for letting me into your home on saturday morning, this remains my freight privilege. i want to know what you think, go to my website at smerconish.com. answer this question, do you think the two-party system is broken and the country needs a third party? results later. and now, speaking of an alternative to the pro major

parties and extremism of both sides, my next guest is ceo of starbucks howard schultz. he has been considering ones as a centrist independent. his book "from the ground up, the promise to re-imagine america." you must think this will be the easiest of interviews after that opening commentary? >> i don't know how ease it's going to be. i lo i love the introduction, michael, thank you for having me. >> he says howard schultz couldn't run a basketball team. they say the ten-year was marred with conflict with star players, fraught with negotiations with lawmakers and private outbursts with low-level employees. respond. >> that story happened years ago. i learned a lot from that experience. i learned when you have power and responsibility, you have to

demonstrate restraint. but the issue in front of us today as you so aptly introduced the subject, is that there is a fractureing of trust and confidence in america with regard to our leadership and the government not working. >> that trust must be restored. you're exactly right. the vast majority of the american people are not being represented. the two-party system is broken at the extremes and there has never been a larger opportunity in the history of the country for a third choice. i am in texas all week. i can tell you something, for the last 30-plus years, the presidential election cycle has been pretty much decided by eight-to-10 battleground states. i'm in texas this week. you know what, since 1976, texas has gone republican. if i should enter the race, there is a very good chance donald trump will not win the state of texas. if he does not with tin state of texas. the math strongly suggests he doesn't get to 270. but the real story here is that

the american people are looking for and longing for a second alternative to the two-party system that is broken, dysfunction am, revenge politics every day. we have a $22 trillion debt. we have a democratic party that's moving closer and closer to fractureing our democracy and free enterprise system with socialism. out i'm here to say, that's into the the way to go. >> i'm curious. >> we have to re-imagine the government. >> i'm curious as to whether you think you left the democratic party or the democratic party left you? and i think i'll couch the question this a-- michael bloomberg said he's not guesting in. tlafrs quote he offthere was a put up on the 15 to.

do you think the democratic party is being dragged to an extreme? >> there with is no question the democratic party now is a party that is int sad doughadows of t hard to imagine let alone imagine. bernie sanders have driven the party so far left with ideas and proposals not realistic or consistent with the majority of the american people. the republican party on the far right exactly the same situation. fiscally for eight years during the obama administration, banging on the president for fiscal debt and fiscal control, president trump becomes president and now we are adding a trillion dollars of debt per year. we're at 22 trillion. both parties at the extremes are fought representing the american people but are based every single day steeped in our own ideology, exactly what you said at the introduction. and as a result of that, what we need is common sense solutions, a new level of leadership to

bring the country together and what you said is exactly right. the american people are so much better than our political class. we deserve better. and walk does not represent what is happening in the rest of the country. but we cannot -- >> i have to ask you -- i have t to ask you the spoiler question. >> sure. >> if in the general election you believe the democratic nominee is pulling votes from you, will you ask him or her to withdraw? >> ha, well, let me tell you something. what you are asking is a very interesting question. because the whole issue of me being a spoiler is a false narrative. millions of life-long republicans are looking for another choice. they do not want to re-elect donald trump. but they have no alternative. the spoiler in this election cycle, if the democratic party continues to go far left, will be the socialist candidate. >> that will be the spoiler. i will not be the spoiler.

but what i have said and i continent to say this, is that howard schultz will not under circumstance do anything to re-elect donald trump. but donald trump must go. the country should not proceed on a track inially the democratic party is offering solutions that are not realistic. we miust embrace our democracy, our free enterprise system and restore trust and confidence in the go. i am a centrist. what i want to do is bring both parties together. there are good people on both sides of the aisle, have good ychltdz let's remove the ideology and left once and for all demonstrate a level of leadership, a level of truthfulness and honesty and solve these complex problems. >> final question. when you first said that you were contemplating running, there were tremendous blowback, as you know, from the democratic party and the left. i will put up on the screen, a montage of some of what you faced.

there was a record that said you were taken aback and had second thoughts. was that report true? have you had second thoughts? >> that report is completely false. like lots of other things that have been said. the courage of my conviction is based on my love of the country. listen, i grew up in public housing. i come from nothing. i am living proof of the american dream. i want to see that dream restored and accessible to every single american and the courage of my convictions has never been stronger. >> howard schultz, thank you for being here. >> thank you very much, michael, i appreciate it. thank you. >> what are your thoughts? tweet me at smerconish or go to my facebook page. i will read some turth program. what do you have? i think you are saying all men

or women are twanted. for example, would you have said the same thing about michael plume berg? bloomberg to me is a guy who exudes competence, wouldn't you say? seems like a competent guy. i think we can't go down that road because of donald trump. i would caution such sweeping judgments with regard to howard schultz. once again, i want to know what you think, go to my website ater conish.com. still to come, the democrats have announced that fox news will not host any of their 12 debates, how do they expect to win over fox viewers? i will ask howard dean about this and the fight for the location of the 2020 democratic convention with key battleground states like wisconsin and florida fighting it out. plus the jewish minneapolis enclave where the cohen brothers grew up depicted here in "a serious man" is represented by

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. this week the democratic party announced it won't let fox news host a debate of its candidates, is that good for america's political process? the decision came on the heels of the "new yorker" piece the white house delineateing the defensive feedback loop between rupert murdock and sean hannity and the trump administration, but keeping the network's anchors and viewers of questioning of democratic hopefuls seems destined to change the candidate's minds. joining me to discuss the perfect guest, howard dean, the former head of the dnc and governor of the great state of vermont and a presidential candidate as well. governor, thanks for coming back. howard schultz said to me he thinks the democratic party is headed in too extreme of a direction as it enters its nomination process. do you agree? >> a, i certainly do not agree. most of the candidates we picked up, seats of the 40 were not a

quote/unquote extreme centrist. they were from the heart land from texas, from pennsylvania, from kansas. that's a media myth. second of all no, disrespect to howard schultz, but if he weren't a billionaire, nobody would be paying attention whatsoever. so let's have the political commentary done by people who know something about politics. >> he shouldn't be precluded, because he's got money in the bank, right? in there it's the only reason he is being considered. if he didn't, you wouldn't have him on your show. 900 people run for president. people don't hear 880 of them. >> well, yeah, if 40% of the country regard themselves as independent and someone with credibility steps forward and says i'm rung as an independent, that might mean immediately interesting. >> that's the point i'm trying to make if he didn't have a billion dollars or whatever you wouldn't consider him a credible candidate. i think that's the problem for

most americans. bloomberg served 12 years in the second hardest job in america. that's different proposition. >> listen, i'm not here to carry schultz' water, it's a legitimate story of a guy that grows up in public housing and goes on to run one of america's successful parties. on a different day we'll have they debate. you know tom perez said we will not have our debates on fox news and the statement tom perez, your successor said was as follows. i believe that a kee pathway to victory is to continue to expand our electorate and reach all voters. >> that is why i have made it a priority to talk to a broad array of potential media partners, including fox news. it has led me to conclude the network is not in a position to host a fair debate for our candidates and says they won't be a primary partner.

do you agree with that decision? >> i do. why not have a debate on breitbart tv? you know, fox is a propaganda organization. it's not a news channel. i don't think we are obligated to have our debates on stations that are really not news channels. and that's who tom decided to do. i think that makes sense. >> the response from chris wallace in an interview with the "new york times" argued differently. no surprise, among other things, he said there are a lot of viewers a democrat will need to elect a president who watch fox news, people in the rust belt states, the rural area hillary lost, they would have been able to see the democratic candidates make their arguments about why they're better able to represent their interests? >> i don't think so. first of all, i think mike wallace is a good journalist. i happen to work for him. he happens to work for a

propaganda instead of a news channel. the people are cemented in. they watch it. they are not true believers. if they're casual fox viewers, they will turn to see the debate on cnn or msnbc. whatever. the hard core people, they don't love the drafts. they love donald trump at this point anybody that loves donald trump is way beyond our reach and should be. >> correct me if i'm wrong, but when you were seeking the democratic nod, you, yourself, would make frequent appearances on fox news, that is network changed over your network changed? >> i think the network changed dramatically. i used to go on fox on chris' sunday show. he is tough but fair. there are a few decent journalists on fox. although, there are a lot fewer than there used to be. the article in the new york sometimes, if you have a relationship with the most corrupt president in the history of the nungs, you are feeding him news, he is calling your host all the time. this is not a true news outlet.

they are a propaganda outlet. i would no longer us go on fox news than rt, russian television. the democratic national convention, florida or wisconsin, what does howard dean think we need to do in selecting the local? >> unfortunately, i have feeling about it. i can't talk about it. i'm talking to tom about it. it's a hard decision to make. obviously, those states are terrific. actually houston i think also still in the running and that's another state they think we can, as you pointed out earlier in the show, i think we can make some progress in. so i will not get into where the convention should be. ultimately that is tom's decision. i'm sure he will make it quite soon. >> it seems to embody which direction the party seeks to go in. is it returning to its blue collar roots or pursue multi-cultural millennial's. if you have a choice between i'll stick with wisconsin and

florida, you got to throw your lot in with one or the other? am i reading too muchch into it? >> yeah, absolutely. this is complicated stuff. it has a lot to do with how many hotel rooms and taxicabs the city does than the political calculation. i'm serious. when i put the convention in denver. there was a western strategy which has turned out to be the right strategy over the last 12 years, nevada, new mexico. colorado, so forth. arizona, but you know, that's not how it ended up in denver. that's why i wanted denver. then you have to figure out the hotels, the taxicabs, how far it is, on and on and on and on. so the final decision is much more complicated than oh, let's go here or let's go there, because certain groups that happen to live in the state. >> governor, thanks for coming back. >> thanks for having me on. >> more social media reaction now. smerconish, twitter and facebook

pages. this comes from facebook, dnc marginalizes themselves by refusing to work with fox. the democratic party is on the outside looking in when it comes to the white house and the win back the white house, you got to go play in some uncomfortable quarters. by the way, i'm the least surprised person by anything that jane mayor wrote in that piece. i totally get it. i agree with her assessment. blue not go on and have a debate with the prime time lineup. will you go on with the more credible news people i think if that's the way that you go. i want to remind you to answer the survey question today. the two-party. just a few months into her first term, many regarded as un anti-semitic. one of many famous people that grew follow-up omar's district,

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and see how you can have an even better x1 experience. simple. easy. awesome. after riding the wave of mid-term and shut down victories, the democratic congress hit a bump this week, spending a lot of time on the wording of anti-hate resolution due to one of its members. ilhan omar from minnesota's fifth district is the first somali american and one of go muslim women. omar has been critical over the

years in ways attacking her of anti-semitism. her most recent one led to a showdown. she says she has been i tacked because it's all about the benjamins, baby. western she ask kwlos is responding pro israel, she responded apac, the united states most prominent pro israel lobby. joining me is tom freeman, a columnist for the "new york times" that grew up in her district. he calls him one of the chosen frozen. ilhan omar, aipac and me, his new book, thank you for being late, an optimist's thrive for surviving in an age of accelerations. you you agree in certain respects. where do you disagree on the bigger issues? >> i have a motto in approaching this whole israeli-arab conflict i have been writing since my

first book from beirut to jerusalem. my motto is do you want to make a point or a difference? that's motto number one. number two, are you being constructive or destructive? so on that question that is where my indictment of apaj c i rooted. >> that is a two-state solution. apac has slavishly thrown in its support behind prime minister bb netanyahu in two ways which i find deeply troubling and have called out in my column. someone netanyahu is involved in creating settlements deep in the heart of the west bank that will make separation and any peace deal extremely difficult if not possible. i think that is destructive to the long-term issue of israel. i a pose that. number two, in 2015, apac was party to what i thought was one

of the most shameful interventions in american politics. the israeli prime minister basically in partnership with the republican minority got himself invited to do a joint speech to a joint session of congress, without informing then president barack obama. he did it at a time when bb netanyahu was running for re-election. he used the network of congress to attack our congress to abet his re-election campaign and did it with the support of the american-israel public affairs committee. i thought that was shameful. >> that is where i ka come from. where i differ from congresswoman omar, i have been very clear since i was 15-years-old that there was only one way to solve this problem. >> that is with a two-state solution. a state for israelis and palestinians. representative omar has endorsed that view sometimes, other times she suggested that is not her view, i think she has been very unclear about that when you wade into this story, michael, i will

stop here, you are not clear what your bottom line is, you start throwing around critiques of one group or another, you invite the blowbacks she got. >> i thought your column was excellent in that it simplified a complex situation. i heard from many radio list listeners friends i suspect. is it fair so say her mistake is not in criticizing israel by ae lying on a a trope as a means to do so? >> you have remember my critique is ilhan omar represents i believe the biggest jewish community in the whole upper mid-west. my hometown of st. louis park and its environs in minneapolis. it was an interesting community. we spun off very little people, al franken, the cohen brothers, michael sand el and sherryno ne

bahama. it -- nusbaum. she represents a small somali immigrant community that's come to our city since that and added their voice and their richness and their kilometer she was perfectly poised to be a bridge builder between muslims and jews, between arabs and israelis and rather than come to washington and be be a bridge builder, she has come to be a bridge zroimpltdestroyer. i hope she has learned. she could be a real bridge builder. it's natural. there are few people bo naturally have the constituency to be a bridge builder than she does. >> she is not. what tom freeman is saying she is not a victim in this story in this situation. she is more, i don't want to put word in your mouth this is my opinion. she is more cull pritd for the

prep reprehensible stuff she has said and done in this regard. >> i go back to my point. do you want to make a point or a difference? do you want to be constructive or destructive? you can ask why is it we have eliminated all aid to palestinians? this is the first administration to do that. i'm talking aid for schools and social services. what is that strategy about? you can come to washington and ask that question. you can come to washington and say we have committed to israeli $40 billion for ten years for security systems. we spend $45 billion a year in afghanistan. yet we give virtually nothing to tunisia, the one arab democracy or to jordan, an incredible island of decency. there are real serious policy questions you could ask that would be constructive. when you come in and start throwing around a dual allegiance, israelened and jews hypnotizeing people, no one is going to believe you are innocent here because you are

not being constructive. when you come from this district that has a strong jewish and muslim population, are you set up to be a bridge builder, all do you is be a bridge destroyer, are you on my criticism list. >> tom, said differently, i love israelis and the palestinians, but god save me from their american friends. the closing line from your excellent column. thank you for coming back to the program. >> my pleasure, michael. congratulations on five years of decency. >> yeah, thanks, for that. still to come, r&b rsh singer r. kelly went on tv to defend himself against charges of sexual abuse of underage girls. to me, his body language contradicted a lot of his words, i'll break it down with a body language expert. she consults for law enforcement. . >> robert. >> they are trying to kill me. are you telling me that.

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by now you know r&b singer r. kelly gave an explosive interview with gayle king about sexual abuse with young teens under the age of 13. what he said was headline. what said me was not what he was saying was his body language was telling us. i wanted to examine it closely with an expert. joining me is body language expert janine driver. she has spent 16 years as a doj law enforcement officer and now works with lawyers, judges, atf, fbi, cia, dia and international association of chiefs of police. janine, i want to do what i like to say intrudsubruder the tape. i'll roll it.

then we can discuss. >> have you ever had sex with anyone. >> no. >> under the wage of 17? >> no. >> never? >> no. >> what are you seeing in that janine? >> what any human being watching will see, michael, which is he is trying, he is trying his hard toast say no but his body language and his head gesture, i've never seen anything e anything like it this dramatic. he is starting with a no he turns into a yes. i make the whole audience look at the person next to you and say are you happy to be here and say, no, or say yes. it's his body language is leaking the truth. our brain doesn't want to us lie. it comes out like this. >> okay. i think in this next one, he does the opposite. let's play it then you can comment. >> so they're lying on you, that's your explanation on you? >> absolutely. absolutely. absolutely. absolutely. >> janine, what are you seeing?

>> absolutely. absolutely, absolutely, so we see him shaking his head no here. he says it three times. even more importantly than shaking his head no here is his tone and pitch begins to go down, down, down. when someone is being deceptive and they're lying, you will often hear an increase or a decrease in their pitch, michael. we saw this with britney spears when she told matt lauer my marriage is not in a crisis. two weeks later she files for a divorce. this change in tone and pitch 80% when we are lying, there is an increase or decrease. we see body language and a clang in pitch. >> there were times he doesn't answer the question at all. i got one couped up for janine driver. play it. >> so i think the point you are making is, and correct me if i'm wrong. >> that you have never held anybody against their will? >> that's stupid. use your common sense. don't, forget the blogs, forget how you feel about me.

hate me if you want to, love me if you want. use your common sense, how stupid would it be for me with my crazy past and what i have been through, oh, right now, i just think i need to be a monster and hold girls against their will, chain them up in my basement and don't let them eat and don't let them out unless they need some shoes down the street from their uncle. >> it was a simple yes or no question. he never gets to the answer, correct? >> oh my gosh, this is like body detection gold. he does smoke screening here. he doesn't answer the question. the best question when a yes or no is involved the strongest answer is simply a yes or no. so he does this big smoke screening and goes crazy. we saw something similar with remember governor stanford, he left the country with his mistress. >> appalachian trail. >> roger clemens up on the hill lying about taking steroids, had andy pennant told me what i knew

then what i know now, the talking in riddles, the smoke screening, is indicative of people keeping truth from us. >> do you knee when you were on my sirius xf radio show this week. there was something you about about gayle than r kelly. i will play the tape. talk to me about gayle. play it. >> all right so gayle right here, look at her toe is going to go up. when we see our toe go up, this is, see her toe. look at her foot. she knows this is interviewing gold, oh my go, i couldn't have scripted there better. jussie smollett couldn't have written a script any better than reality here. her toe goes up. at one point we see her smile and laugh. she remains completely kaim. i give her, listen, if there was an oscar for interviewers, it would definitely go to gayle king. she remains calm, she doesn't flinch a bit. >> that toe, good news. >> what about in a general sense the toe going up?

i think i just cut you off. you were about to offer the payoff. go ahead. >> if you go on a date and the woman's shoe suddenly goes up, it's defyinging gravity, i'm so excitement, my shoe can't stay down, like joey from "friends" how you doing? this is eyebrow lash. she killed it. is a impressed. >> the most animated part. i think i will put you on the split screen. take down his volume and have you watch us what janine driver sees. do it. >> i didn't do there. >> all right. okay. so he's hitting his chest right here. these are called illustrators. it's congruent what he is trying to convince us of. he is angry. this is legit anger. he stands up. i want everyone to notice at home, do you see how he steps away from gayle? this is actually right here. it's this distancing. if this is what we see with aggressive nbc, before someone attacks, you will often see a step back.

i'm janine driver, the mother of three sons, the wife of brie larsson, when i take back, this janine is going to pun were you in the face. i'm impressed gayle is remaining calm. this is genuine anger. if we were to compare him to judge kavenaugh. judge kavanaugh was pushed to be more aggressive. his first interview was too passive. it was staged anger. this is legit anger, this is connected to, he is going to jail, he is not going to see his kids raised. we be et the illustrators match what he is saying. it's not checked with lying. >> janine, why isn't this the legitimate angry reaction of someone unjustly accused? you know, how would you expect someoneen who is unjustly accused to react? >> michael, are you a smart cookie, i am glad you asked me that, we look for cluters, saying his head yes and shakes no shudder shrugs which is

uncertainty. he's not being direct saying i didn't do this, they're liars. see, what happens is, when someone happens, when they are lying on television, look at the roger clemens of the world, they won't come out and say, are you a liar. what we hear right here is r. kelly is not coming out saying she's a liar. she's a liar. around they're lying. they're not coming out and saying it. this is what liars tend to do. i that say i'm a victim. >> final question on a totally different subject. like many others i was trance fixed by that michael jackson documentary. i know you scrutinized one of the accusers. i have a short clip, let's ask you what she thinks. real brief. >> fundamental am fundamental. >> what are you seeing there, janine? >> i call this the bcn, when you bite your lip off to the side, michael, it is bad events happened, concerns or negative thoughts. this emotion and this little expression is not something we

see when people are lying and staged their epoxy. i came in think they were lying and wanted money. i walked out saying, oh my gosh, these guys are telling the truth. >> can somebody who has done bad things engage you and come you've as compelling. you can teach this to some bad seed? >> i would love liars to come to me. you remember the truth. are you telling us the lie. now you can't unsee unhear unexperience what i share with you. the liars totally fall apart. because are you like, oh my go, i did the shoulder shrug, you start to analyze yourself, as a matter of fact, the more liars that come to me, more i teach them, the more they are not going to get away wit. we will keep people safe and protect your family and your finances. >> i am out of town, but, jussie smoemt. credible or incredible? >> unbelievable. body language god. i did a three-hour, four-hour documentary where i decoded every single step. put it on youtube, every

wednesday night i do a facebook live celebrity lie detector lie. >> give me the bottom line. >> this guy is a liar. unscripted. we tussled. we emplies a relationship. anyone someone is attacked. they never say we. we tussled. if won is attacking you, it is not called a tussle. before the brother got arrested. i came out saying facebook live, he knew it, it was scripted. he said attacked me over by the stairs. lo and behold everything i predicted your best and worst tweets and facebook comments. and the final results of the survey question. go vote at smerconish.com. the two-party system is broken and the country needs a third party. do you agree or disagree? month after month, the clock is ticking on irreversible joint damage. ongoing pain and stiffness

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good morning. glad to have you with us on this saturday, march 9th. i am christi paul. >> i am victor blackwell. you're in the cnn "newsroom." right now you see what's happening in venezuela. pro-opposition protesters are out on the streets, for juan guaido. supporters of maduro are also there as well. maduro just issued a challenge to the u.s. saying, this is a