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i'm john king. thank you for sharing a very busy day with us. it's not nonbinding but something you don't see every day. the house passed a resolution calling on the mueller report to be made public. the vote, 420 ayes, zero nays. today's vote will put both the house and senate on record against the president's national emergency declaration for the u.s./mexico border. and listen to this. north lawn shade for the latest democrat to join the 2020 field.
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it's beta o'rourke, not beto. >> he's called him that before on the campaign trail. why wouldn't he. that's his name. >> moving parts in this busy hour ahead including the president heading up to capitol hill for the st. patrick's day lunch. we begin with that but we begin today with the beto watch. >> this is going to be the positive campaign. it seeks to bring out the best in every one of us. >> it launched beto o'rourke into the crowded democratic field. it offered instant proof of the youth and impact to make him an
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impactful player. >> this is the very first event of our campaign for president is an example of not only the way i wish to campaign across this country for every single american and i could care less your party persuasion, your religion, anything other than the fact that right now we're all americans and we're all human beings and we're going to do everything within our power for everyone, our great country and everything that follows. this is democracy. >> count the incumbent, president trump among those taking note. >> well, i think he egot a lot of hand movement. i said, is that crazy or is that just the way he acts? i watched him a little while this morning doing i'm assuming some kind of news conference. i've never seen anything quite like it. study it. i'm sure you'd agree. >> with the bet over, is beto
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way out over his skis. or is he the next obama or trump, a candidate with a light national political resume but the star power and skills to convince his party he's the best hope for victory. jeff zeleny is watching this. jeff, how is the reaction to the reception so far? >> reporter: john, there's no question he's sweeping iowa with a bit of confidence and wind as well. he's not talking about president trump. he did not mention him at all in his remarks earlier today when he was doing his first stop, but he is thinking about him and here's why. the counties he's choosing to visit inusually are counties president trump won in 2016 and president obama won in 2012. these are the key counties we'll be watching on election night in 2020. right here in burlington, iowa,
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he won 15%. 15% more than hillary clinton did. she lost it to president trump. that's why the sub text where few democratic presidential candidates have gone before. it's one of an emotional appeal. he's calling on a positive message. we'll see how long it stays positive. some of his democratic aide s sniping at him for nonspecifics. he'll be speaking at this coffee shop on his second stop. they say they want to hear a couple of things from him. one, is he going to expand it? if beto o'rourke is able to get young voters and new people to the caucuses, that is certainly good for him. they can see how he grows as a candidate. this is day one, much more important how he picks himself
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up after airs. day one, a lot of excitement out here for beto o'rourke. >> looking forward to what you say about it. sometimes candidates have wind in their face, sometimes wind at their back. sometimes there's just wind. appreciate your in, jeff. so we were talking about this before the show. just the energy and conversation tells you this is one of the -- some candidates get in and they're like, okay, let's see. he has a created a buzz for better or worse. he has created a celebrity mini stardom if you will in a democratic party. that's a great blessing for a candidate because you get attention, but it getsets it up. can you live up to it? >> he got vetted very closely in texas where he came close to ted cruz unseating him in the senate
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election last year, but nationally he's kind of a phenom right now. he has yet to show his stuff and there are going to be others who say i have more step in the game. >> and i spoke to people around him. make no mistake about it. in a crowded democratic field, this is a delicate game. they'll play a key part. they wonder how prepared he is. his policy views have been all over the map and, frankly, we don't know his views on a lot of policy issues and there's a question whether he's ready for the scrutiny and intensity that comes in a presidential campaign, particularly where you have some senators, particularly female senators, who are extremely strong and pride
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themselves on their policy expertise and so it could be hard for him. >> let's start on the policy side of it because you raise a couple of important questions. it's day one. you're not going to hear him say here's what i'm e going to do for health insurance, the green deal. you don't expect that on day one. but out of the box, bay toe or rourke on the issues. >> gain teed high-quality health care. some will krit seize the new green deal being bold. i haven't seen anyone support this. we should end the federal prohibition on marijuana. every woman should be able to make her own decision about her own body. >> again, it's day one, so it's just everyone hold your breath. the question is -- and we saw some of this during the other campaign. as you get -- the cameras aren't there or the iowa voters ask you or you're on a debate stage who
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think they have better policy chops, can you withstand? can you answer? >> i think that's the question you always have. are they going to voe for the policy or the candidate they like the most who can convey them in the best way. it's probably a mixture of both. right now it's can he rise to the occasion? can he put meat on the bones? are you going to have great policies and work for everyday people? i think that's the question. the spotlight is on him. >> some people have charisma. some can't land the cover of "vanity fair" and have a bazillion dollars rolled at them with very little effort.
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primarily he's a white man and is a white man the right guy to to be the next nominee is going to be a thing he's going to have to be looking at. the about to take a hard question and answer it in a non-difficult way or be quick on your feet, that sort of charisma like the instinctive charisma is going to be a commodity. you can have a billion ideas but if trump can eviscerate you by calling you crazy beto, it's over. we saw how within a couple of hours people chasing beto across lawns, breathlessly waiting for what he's going to say in the coffee shop, the fact that president trump is trying out nicknames, the president takes his nonverbal communication skills very seriously.
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>> i think there's something where, yeah, the party is talking about the need for a woman or more diverse candidate, but what they really want do is beat president trump. when you ask privately, they say, i can vote for a woman, but my friends, i'm not sure they can. this guy looks like he could be a president. he has a kennediesque thing to him. democrats are not willing to take a risk. if they view a woman or a person of color as a risk, that could really help him. >> people make the comparison. obama had the iraq war. what will bay toe o'rou beto o'? he raised $83 million in his senate race, he spent three terms in the house.
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it's hard to raise money when nobody knows you. part of it was his appeal. you raised the question can he put a campaign together. he likes to trust his gut. he likes to trust his drives. i'm not mocking him. he likes to use social media. he said to "vanity fair," i don't have a team of delegates. i didn't know it. i just felt it. i knew with enough work and creativity and enough people and i can bring them in, we can do it. that's what i think about this. it's probably not the most professional thing you've heard about this, but i just feel it. >> there wasn't a -- >> the big debate about that is because he has such good instincts, did he make it way closer than he should have been or because he doesn't have a traditional organization, did he lose a race he might have been able to win? >> it's hard to argue. first of all, the tenor of his
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statements remind you so much of the statements president trump makes all the time. he knows and he was right on presidency. >> president trump's served him well. a good insting active candidate, if you go back to bill clinton, president bush, even obama, instinctive candidates helps. >> it's either because you're on the debate stage and you have to make a decision and don't have time to consult your advisers. he does need people who are going to have to look at the delegate counts, the get out the votes, especially in states where clinton lost when she should have won. it goes to the point margaret made. there's not that much variation in terms of the top line issue. yes, they have different plans on how to fight climate change
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or support college tuition. but the top line, this is what we want, not that much diversity in the democratic field and charisma shows. >> we'll see. republican senators weighing a tough choice. next hour, standing with the president or rebuking his views. >> how are you going to vote? >> i'm going to wait until this afternoon. >> okay. so you don't want to give us a preview how you're going to vote because this would be a great opportunity on national tv. are you leaning toward -- >> no, no. the answer is i'm going to talk about that this afternoon. with. new elvive rapid reviver deep conditioners. l'oréal's patented conditioners work fast with no leave-in time. enriched with damage-repairing serum. 2x easier detangling 2x less breakage than with a leading conditioner.
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he's be on capitol hill to, a, have lunch, but, b, to steel himself. five other republicans have gone on the record to say they'll vote yes this afternoon for a resolution to overturn that resolution. the white house bracing for the embarrassment. they worry as many as 14 senators may break with the fromth in that vote later today. president trump in the white house repeatedly casting that vote as a binary choice tweeting, a vote for the republican senators is a vote for nancy pelosi. crime. he told reporters last hour the veto pen is ready. >> i don't know what the vote will be. it doesn't matter. it's not going to be overturned. the legal scholars say it's totally constitutional. it's very important.
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it's really a border security vote. it's pure and simple. it's a vote for border security. it's a vote for no crime. >> we'll leave that to the fact-checker. cnn's phil mattingly joins us live on capitol hill. phil, what are we looking for here? >> here's what we do know. it will pass the united states senate. the president is right. it will not pass enough to override the veto, so the emergency declaration will stand, but you noted there are already seven republican no-votes and by my caught there are six to eight other republicans on the fence. i just ran into senator roy blount on my way over here, an undecided senator. and he said, quote, amazingly i'm still talking to the white house as senators are trying to get something from the white house. he's not the only one. three senators, cruz, sass,
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graham went over uninvited. they made their own pitch to get the president to accept some limitations on future national emergency declarations. i'm told at that meeting it was rejected after a white house lawyer came in and said it would be problematic to the white house. yet this morning the president tweeted he may be open to it. what that means going forward? blount doesn't know for sure. it's too little, too late. the question is how many. right now if you look at the list of key undecided snores, people like rob portman, ted cruz. they would all like to see the change but aren't necessarily ideally constitutionally aligned. what it underscores here is the republicans as we've seen over the past few weeks have really, really struggled with this issue. we know it's going to pass.
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we don't know by how many. >> we appreciate the latest there. it's embarrassing for the president. there was a yemen resolution saying get the united states out of any involvement with saudi arabia. but this one's on his signature issue. you heard him it. was not quite factual. there's a legitimate debate about that. but the president wants to go into the campaign strong, i'm going to build it no matter what. even established republicans are saying look what i have to do to fight for my wall. >> that's why this is such a rebu rebuke. one thing he has been able to do is keep his party in line. he'll at least be able to keep them quiet. this is immigration. so to get pushback and have to
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vito, get your party to vote down what is your signature issue, that's a big deal. one thing he's always had in his corner is this fear that he could come out and vote against them. that's what's kept them in liven, but you're seeing it break down. the fact that they're willing to do this speaks to their strength. >> we know if they voted for principle, the number would be higher. >> the reason they're doing this is not to vote against his signature issue, but in order to help him, that i have to kill themselves. beyond the constitutional question is the real political question. every time he asks them to do something to help him that gives away their own power, they give away the negotiation for the
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next debate. he says the numbers don't matter, but, of course, they matter. if it's for republicans who do this, they can give him aberrations. but if it's 14 or 12, it's a much bigger problem. there are going to be other people on the list who the white house would love to have primaries on the list and have them look the other way and say what can we do. >> to the point that the president has transformed the republican party. just remember, this is a little talk radio example. when president obama used examples like this, he was an imperial president, trying to destroy the constitution. when president trump does it according to mark levin, it's great. >> some of these people dress up as constitutional conservatives and some are concerns about
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separation of powers. he's trying to secure the border. if congress won't go along, too damn bad. some do and some don't. >> there was a day when mark levin was concerned about the sconce tugs of power, but i guess it's because there was a democrat in the house. there's an inconsistency from a guy who's normally consistent. >> it's how much money do you want to spend, do you care about deficits or do you want to know from members of the executive branch what's going on. if you feel like your guy is actually in charge and running the ship properly, you don't fight that fight, but the issue here is the gop is never comfortable. as much as this is his signature
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issue, they don't like to lose it. >> let's take a look at the picture. they don't get along. they agreed to have lunch with the prime minister of london for stchl patrick's day. it's also a beautiful day in washington. we haven't had one of those in a long time. i'm sorry. coming back to the conversation, pelosi put this to the house. now the senate will go on the record today. bagpipes are always good to have in the program. is there going to be an embarrassment? first two times he would use his veto pen would be where a sig kaj number of his own party says, sorry, mr. president. >> all these polls approve of him, but there are slight cracks and you have heard from strong trump supporters like i was
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talking to kris kobach two weeks ago, well, everyone is behind the president. that's assuming there's no big contact. the mueller report is maybe likely probably coming. >> maybe. >> maybe. >> and you have all of these investigations on capitol hill. and there's a lot in the air that we and republicans and democrats don't know what it is. so i think we're in the campaign cycle. some of these senators are up for re-election. i wouldn't even call them cracks. they're like fine lines. >> the question is does it grow. you see the kabuki dance, well, will you give us legislation on future emergencies and then we'll sort of turn a blind eye to this snow the high road. >> they're staunch in their gimmicks, but they'll say, see, i turned on principle. a bizarre debate. >> legally it's difficult to say
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it's not a legal precedent. >> you talked to democrats about this and they're against it, but if it happens, it could be good for climate change. >> constitutional conservatives. before we go to break, a touching break on the senate floor. mitch mcconnell saying good-bye to reporter don stewart who's moving on to the private sector. >> there's cher, there's prince, there's madonna, and there's stu. everybody knows stu. so today i have to say good-bye to an all-star staff leader who took his job about as seriously as anybody you'll ever meet.
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after judge jackson had restricted what stone is allowed to say in his case. in the updated book stone called the prosecution and that it was crooked. there was a question on whether he might go to jail. the judge gave him a break. >> reporter: she did. she essentially gave him a reprieve, at least for now. she said she didn't want to dwell on the issue of whether or not he violated the gag order. she said she was reviewing it and lamented they spent so much time on collateral issues that are costing him money in legal fees. she wants to get this matter scheduled and move to set it for trial. it's clear this is going to drag on for many more months and it's still a question whether stone
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can abide by the bag order in the months still to come. and, again, john, just because roger stone didn't get into trouble today dum he mean he's not going to be in trouble with the judge in the future. it's clear they were concerned that his new book, which is very critical of the special counsel, could land stone behind bars. it's still a possibility, but it didn't happen for him today. >> sara, i appreciate it. that say big bet. can roger stone bite his tongue for sick or seven, eight months? it's interesting. it's not in court yet, but she's trying to keep things on the legal track, but, b, being cutely aware of the politics. here i think she's deciding she can put roger stone in jail for a few days to say, look, i'm serious about this gag order, but then you create a gag order.
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>> there will be so many more chances between now and november. >> his thing is he's trying to make money for his legal defense. >> if the judge comes down hard on these interim stages, yeah, you can make them heroes for the people who support trump. by the same token, a lot of people are critical of trump. they're wondering are these guys getting a pass. that's out there on both sides. there's passionate sentiment on both sides and that can flow into various different things like more campaigns in defeating the president in 2020. >> help me clear up some things. one is dik he ask for a pardon? he said i never asked for a
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pard pardon. then he said after he left. we were all rolling our eyes because he should know better. we know investigators in congress want to look at this. we're told that investigators meaning the feds are looking at this. this is an email from a lawyer that cohen had hired to him. there was never a doubt and they're in our corner. rudy, meaning rudy giuliani, said the channels of communication must maintain. sleep well tonight. you have friends in high places. now, is that a lawyer spinning michael cohen, you hired the right fwien, we're good, or do you read that as rudy says we can't give you a pardon today, but i know you, i truf you, keep in touch, we've got this. >> i'm no lawyer, but it's vague enough that you could argue that
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it mean as lot of didn't things. it seems like in public the president is being careful. it also seems when you talk about manafort and his lawyer talking about his collusion, look, there's no collusion. even though that's not what they said, they seem to be trying to send a message maybe to president trump that we're still in your corner for manafort, and why would you do that? there's no motivation unless you think you could get some help. >> you can tell they're getting exhausted and mentally tired of trying to sift out because there's so much he said, she said. >> and all the people involved are no liars. >> exactly. that's no angels here. can they remember who picked up
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the phone each time, and now that this was an insinuation about public dangling, can that be construed that it means something? >> i want to -- here's additionally confusing. one of the things -- congress has had michael cohen up there and matthew whitaker, did you talk to the president about the cohen case? he said, i never did anything improper. this is the chairman of the committee. try to follow this. >> what did he admit to discussing with the president? >> he did not admit to discussing with the president anything, but when presented with the opportunity, when asked by mr. collins at the end of the interview if it was correct that he had not spoken to the
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president about the cohen case, he said he did not have the opportunity. so he refused to do so. >> doj officials are pushing back saying whitaker did nothing wrong. i said the same thing when you had devin nun yooz in the house. they have a responsibility to speak clearly. >> i had the privilege of being there. it was confusing. he did not deny having these conversations and the pushback from the republican side is he said he couldn't decide. the question was if there are questions, is that also suspect of maybe those conversations and they were not intentionally with
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the president? and there's so many interpretations in the nondenial silence part of whitaker not completely being able to recall things, is that a coverup or an honest assessment of not remembering? it's so messy. there's no transcript. >> and beyond the legal back and forth and the legalese, there's also this question of when roger stone gets up and really baits these judges and courts, is that because they're trying to create favor with the president or is that the world, the pool you all swim in, how you behave in court and this defiance. it mimics the president, but is that because they're all in the same like political universe? it's hard to know. >> in this polarized environment where people see opposite things, the investigators need to speak with clarity and say not today.
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topping our political radar today, a big decision by the connecticut supreme court setting up a potential legal showdown between a gun maker and family who lost loved ones in a massacre. the suit can now go forward. that suit alleges remington who makes the bushmaster ar-15 rifle used in the massacre that killed 26. they say remington shares in the blame because of the way the
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company marketed the gun. one of the first things they asked about, president trump's tax returns and whether he would comply with the request to hand them other. >> if i receive a request, which i presume from what i read in the press i will rereceive, i will consult with the didn't of treasury and i will follow the law. we will protect the president as we would protect any individual taxpayer under their rights. also on the hill today, patrick shanahan, he's up before the senate armed services committee answering questions on the defense budget for 2020, but he's also asked questions about the crash of boeing 737 max-8s where he was once tied to boeing as an executive. >> international watchdogs and citizens in washington recently
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asked the didn't of defense inspecker general to investigate whether you have broken any ethics rules by promoting boeing while you served as deputy secretary of defense. do you support such an investigation? >> yes, i do. >> when we come back, more on the new candidate and the democratic race for president, beto o'rourke who jumped in with a tribute to his wife that raised a few eyebrows. let's see, aleve is proven better on pain than tylenol extra strength. and last longer with fewer pills. so why am i still thinking about this? i'll take aleve. aleve. proven better on pain.
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good news just in to cnn and a big vote coming up on capitol hill in the next hour. an eighth republican senator says he will vote against the president, meaning he'll vote for disapproval. now, the eighth republican senator who will vote against the president's position on this bill. we'll watch that count as it continues. back to the story at this hour.
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the latest candidate to jump into the field of democratic presidential candidates, bay toe o'rourke. he paid tribute to his wife and family in iowa. >> i just got a call from my wife amy who's back in el paso, texas, where she's raising sometimes with my help ulysses who's 12 years old, molly who's 10 and their little brother henry who's 8 years old. she's getting them ready, feeding them, and taking them to school. i, even though this is the first day miss them terribly. >> now, our friend matt of the "washington post" tweeted about this. you see them tweeting on top of it -- do you ladies roy tonight translate all of those ayes. >> a woman could never joke like that. i help raise my kids sometimes, ha, ha, ha.
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that just wouldn't happen, right? >> most working women get asked who's with your kids. >> there are candidates like gillibrand who has kids fairly the age of mr. o'rourke's kids. you know, they just don't the need to talk about their role raising them. and i think that is his way clumsily of dealing with these dynamics in the party, that there are people who would like to see a female candidate particularly after hillary clinton's defeat and that is something that we said before he'll have to navigate around. >> one of those female candidates said, by the way, camela harris said, the more the merrier. but she also sent out a fund-raiser appeal this morning -- you talk about some candidates the others ignore, it doesn't mean they're not good. they just ignore them. she's trying to raise money and
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then julian castro put out a press release noting he has a lot of support among the elected democrats in the state saying nice kid, but no. >> increasingly the democrat ilk party is made up of women and people of color. the question is how would the female candidates' life experiences compare with bay toe o'rourke, but for the others at home who are working moms, they'd be like, i could never afford -- i may not be married or married to someone who's worth millions of dollars and who wants to stay home and watch my children, are they going to resent him or are they going to say, good for him? he has a similar life but he says how he feels. that's a potential challenge for him. if the life's circumstances liberated him to go do the campaign are very different than the people who might be voting
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for him. >> the reality is the demographics is it's hard to see a pathway to living without winning a sizeable share of black women. that's just the reality of a lot of these states, srk and a bunch of these tuesday states. >> women globally will be the majority and once you move to south carolina and beyond through super tuesday states, african-american women, huge piece. we'll see. first day in. getting a lot of buzz. some thinking he's getting too much buzz. we'll see how it plays out. interesting race. i'm with senator harris. the more the merrier. dana bash is in for brittney keilar. back after a quick break. unstopables in-wash scent booster
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