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president clinton received a picture of himself playing the sax. when azerbaijan's leader gave the clintons their portraits on a rug, this may well have been the look on bill's face, faced with this gift. just peachy. jeanie moos, cnn, new york. >> all right. thank you very much for joining us. anderson starts now. >> good evening. if you are wondering if the president of the united states apologized today on his attack of a war hero months after his passing, he didn't. in fact, help continued to express his dislike of john mccain, blaming him on healthcare and other unnamed issues. in the past, one of the issues he disliked in the campaign about mccain is he got captured during the vietnam and he was a p.o.w. for six years, he was tortured. mr. trump, apparently doesn't like members of the military what get captured, so he said. the continued comments of the president released a flood of attacks by every day citizens
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against the fa widow. cindy says she received one from facebook messenger, a note laced with obscenities, quote, your husband was a traitor's piece of warmongering s-word. the woman writes. i'm glad he is dead. i hope your piggy looking daughter chokes on a burger down her fat neck, too, she puts another vial word i won't repeat. cindy mccain lashed out on twitter from the executive time in the white house, she took aim to a man that stood up in a prison. he blamed senior mccain and falsely claimed he graduated last in indianapolis. he graduated sixth from last, the senator had to make fun of for himself. he said he caused the obama repeal to fail. as we point out, mccain wasn't the only republican to fame. today as we note, the president
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continued to comment on mccain. >> i'm very unhappy that he didn't repeal and replace obamacare as you know. he campaigned on repealing and replacing obamacare for years. then he got to a vote and he said thumbs down. ourp country would have saved a trillion dollars and we would have had great healthcare. so he campaigned. he told us hours before that he was going to repeople and replace and then for some reason i think i understand the reason, he end up going thumbs up. frankly, had we known that, we would have gotten the vote. we could have gotten somebody else. i think that's disgraceful. plus, there are other things. i was never a fan of john mccain, i never will be. >> you don't have to be a fan to respect there's e memory or recognize their undeniable service to the country. you don't have to the contractor be a stable genius to understand your word and deeds can have circumstances. they can inspire. why cindy mccain made a message
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about that vial message. mitt romney weighed in, i can't understand why the president would once again dispar ram a man as complexemplary as john m. just moments ago, we got the roots on the obamacare vote. what have you learned about mccann? >> reporter: anderson, i talked to a former mccain aide who worked with the senator right up until his death and was around for when this repeal and replace vote went down when john mccain gave that now famous thumbs down to the gop repeal and replace plan and angered the us who, angered the president. you heard the president talk about that today. in the word of this aide, nope, never happened. he was not one to consult the white house before he acted and then this aide added the question, you're surprised that
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trump lied? this aide added. and so they, inside mccain world, they are furious with the way the president has been behaving over the last few days, going after john mccain. this is a factual error according to people who work for the late senator. >> has the white house had anything to say about what cindy mccain posted today? >> reporter: no, they haven't. i think it is worth reminding folks, anderson, this is the sort of thing that happens all the time. when the president lashes out at any number of targets. you and i know this, probably as well as a lot of people do. you do take on a barrage of social media attacks from the president's supporters, there is a whole legion of trolls and bots and so on to back up what the president sed says, sometimes those messages get very, very sinister and sometimes violent. i think this is a taste of what the mccain family i guess has gone through. but as for mccain's status as a war hero, you mentioned what
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mitt romney said just a few moments ago, anderson, we should point out, president trump has been to vietnam twice now. i traveled with president trump in his first two years in office to hanoi twice. on bhoet of those occasions, the president has been right down the street from the hanoi hilt him. he has elected. he has chosen not to go to that former police on the see the bravery of john mccain first hand. journalists who travel with the president go to the hanoi hilton all the time and see for themselves. it would not have been a stretch for the secret service or the white house staff to arrange a trip for the president to the hanoi hilton so he can see what senator mccain's brave i have all about. it's something the president doesn't want to do. he wants to continue to nurse this grudge against the late senator. >> obviously, the hanoi hilton, an ironic name, anything but a hilton, of course. for most poe poe.o.w.s. a man, author, retired
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general ralph peters. it would have been very easy for the president just to say no comment today. he he can't help himself from once again attacking john mccain who is both a war hero and deceased. >> well, i think it's very straight forward, anderson. john mccain was and in our hearts remains the man trump could never be. and trump knows it. it's a classic case of male fears of inadequacy. it goes along perfectly with his life-long obsession with having a woman on his arm that look like teenage boy's fantasies. he wants to show us all how tough he is. he is not tough. he's a draft doernlg and appedo appears to be a big mouth. >> it seems people in tough situation and have shown themselves and have risen to those situations to meet them,
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they don't talk tough, necessarily. i mean, they you know they often are the quietest person in the room. >> yeah, indeed. it's just an old rule. the guy that brags at the bar wasn't a he. >> reporter: and i, mile, i have been privileged to know some men and women, i regard as genuine heroes. john mccain i knew slightly as well. and no they don't shoot off their mouths. they don't gratuitously insult people. they don't incite hatred. on the contrary the people who have actually served this country so well with john mccain, his generation is a leading example, they don't, they just don't behave like trump. >> it's interesting, because i used to think or at times i thought, okay, there is a political reason for the president to be doing something or for tweeting something or kind of change the message,
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refocus people on to something else that distracts from something, you know, something going on that's negative to the president or he doesn't like. mike shields who is a supporter of the president was on the program last night saying that some people might actually see this as strength from the president. >> that he's sticking to his guns, that he's not pretending to like somebody who he didn't like in life. and that you know it's him not backing down just because senator mccain has passed away. it's actually a sign of strength to some people. >> does one really need to reply to anything that proceed possterous? look. trump is just shameful. he is obscene. he is disgraceful. pick your adjective. but any one again who dodged the draft, who never did anything for this country who was he elected apparently with the help of a hostile power, that this guy would attack and keep
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attacking john mccain, just shows you the power of human jealousy. here if washington, everyone is afraid of human emotion. yet if there is a quality, emotion, that will ruin lives and start wars, it is jealousy. and trump appears to me to be consumed by it. because for all the dudads he's got and now he's got air force 21 to replace it, his older plane, all the toys he has, he does not seem like a happy man. he seems terribly lonely, roaming the halls of the white house night, living for television. this man is the president of the united states, and the best he can do with his time is walk, watch fox news and tweet. i mean, future historians, future citizens are going to look back at this interval in
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our history and be utterly appalled and disgusted because i'll tell you, as an intelligence officer, i was a really good analystment i had an incredible track record. i could never foresee the american people electing someone like donald trump. >> i'm just wondering also, it's a little off topic. i was kur yes, sir when this happened to get your take on it. when the president talked about having the military and the police and construction workers and bikers on his side and they're tough people and that they're peaceful. he hopes that i stay that way. it would get really bad if they didn't. i was surprised by that. i mean, i don't know of other ways to look at it other than, you know, he's saying he has armed forces on his side. he's saying he has the police. you know, that seems to be the kind of a message you know you would hear from some you know dictator in some other country from some wannabe strong man.
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>> when i heard that i was infuriated on multiple levels. first, what an insult to our military, particularly to the officer core. and we have never had a coup or the threat of a coup in this country. our officer core and our military is loyal, not to some big town mussolini. they're taken the oath of the constitution of the united states. as long as the elected president of the united states givers lawful orders, our military will obey those orders, whether they like them or not. but should any president give unlawful orders, orders that contravene the constitution, the military will say no you might get a couple crazies, but the military is loyal to the constitution, not to the individual. i'm sure that's saying with the overwhelming number of police departments and others. now, some biker gangs, will he have biker gang on his side? he might. i don't really think they're going to overthrow the country.
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but anderson, whether or not collusion is a crime, se digs is -- sedition is. if trump incites people to violence, people die, the mob boss is an accessory to murder. it's not just the hit men in the streets, deadly sedition is inconhave trertedly a criminal offense. it doesn't take a cnn la you are to tell you about that. >> thank you very much for being with us. >> thank you. digging deep, legal analyst, jeffrey toobin and attorney white house jim schultz. jim, there a strategy to what the president is doing continuing this, you know, attack on john mccain, who is dead? >> i don't think there is a strategy associated with it. i think he was reacting to the news of the steele dossier and mccain turning over the steele dossier. i don't think -- i think it was
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a reactionary and, quite frankly, he's not being accurate -- >> even about what the report said, which we've known all along is that mccain turned it over to the fbi, an associate of mccain's given to at least one reporter, maybe more, the president saying he was mccain that gave it to the media. >> regardless, he's reacting to a report and he's and lashing out and, quite frankly, he can find other things to talk about. he has a great track record and great performance as president of this country in terms of the jobs, the economy, the trade, you can talk about a ton of other things. this is something he didn't need to tweet about and, quite frankly, i think it was an unforced error, strategically. john mccain had his fair share of supporters, although, not very popular politically among the president's base. i think a lot of folks, most people in this country including myself respect the sacrifice
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that john mccain made. even though he may not agree with his politics. >>ever, i'm wondering how you see this, does it make sens sense he is continuing this? he was asking a question today, he could have said you all know who my thoughts are, i will move on? >> you know, i'm a lawyer not a doctor. but i mean the psychological problem, phenomenon of projection is so evident in everything donald trump does that, you know, he dodged the draft, so he has to disparage a war hero. you know, he, who knows how he did in school. so he has to pretend that barack obama did poorly in school at the same time as we learn that michael cohen was threatening his schools about releasing donald trump's transcripts and, you know, the thing that i think is most sad about all this is that not so much donald trump's character, which i think is very clear, that a lot of people in
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our country are the same way. >> that the bigotry of donald trump that on the day, you know, after 50 people muslims are killed in new zealand, he devotes tweet after tweet to defending janine piro who is an anti-muslim bigot. that's popular with a lot of people. >> that itself the real scandal here. you know, donald trump's personality is what it is. but i think the really hard question we have to address is why do so many people in this country feel exactly the same way? >> jim, do you have thoughts on that? it is clearly cindy mccain tweeted out one of the messages she says she's received. certainly when the president of the united states kind of opens the flood gates, himself, in terms of his emotions and you know vitriol, it does sort of breed it in others and give license to other? >> yeah, i get that but let's face it anderson, you go on tv every day. i go on tv once in a while.
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the moment we go on tv, there is someone attacking us, sometimes personally, sometimes violently on twitter. it happens on a reg basis, certainly people may agree with his position or go one step further on the position, they will make negative comments on twitter as well, it's unfortunate. >> also retweeting you know what vitriolic stuff people are saying, he's retweeting it to the family members of john mccain. he retweeted something to cindy, to megan mccain the other day. the idea that he is going through his own feed i assume it's him and finding, you know, tweets that agree with him. >> isn't that nor the president to spend his time doing that weird? >> there are better battles to choose, no question. and i think he should choose better battles going forward in terms of the things he's pushing forward on his agenda and some of the folks coming at him from
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congress, certainly that's fair game as it relates to members of congress coming after him in a partisan way to punch back and his base expects him to punch back. but in this instance, i think he could have picked a different fight. certainly. >> you know, to pretend that anything on these twitter wars is about the good economy or you know trade issues with china, this is about racism and it's about bigotry and about discrimination and people like that about trump. and that's what i think we have to you know think about in a really hard way. >> you think -- >> not about the economy. >> you think he is opening the vein of that in this country? >> absolutely. that's how he won the election. i mean, you know, that's who he is. donald trump is famous. the only reason donald trump is a politician at all is because he made up a racist lie about barack obama not being born in the united states. you know, that sort of have fallen into the memory bank.
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that's why donald trump became a political figure. because he made up this racist lie and used it to become a political figure and it worked. and he won. and that's what's really significant i think. >> jeffrey, what we can agree on here. we see time and time again. we saw the whole issue where the democrats twisted themselves on some anti-semitic comments made by members of their caucus. they twisted themselves trying to deal with that issue. i mean, it's something that needs to be taken head on. no question about it. i think everybody has to take the president, congress, others, the leaders in this country have to understand that there are consequences for what they say. it's on both side. you are quickly to point out just it's the president. but there are others involved in this kind of twitter political twitter battle that causes this vitriol. maybe we got to tone it down a little bit. >> i spent 2016 covering a campaign where i personally
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engaged in false equivalents between hillary clinton's misdeeds and donald trump's misdeeds and i'm not doing it in 2020. and the idea that one congressman, congresswoman's you know silly statement is at all equivalent to the racist and bigoted tirades of the president of the united states is absurd false equivalents. >> we're going to have to leave it there. i appreciate it. we got breaking news next in the russian investigation. leading figure's role in it. what we are learning from a massive new release in the michael cohen case, what i could say against the president, critic george conway now questions the president's health and continues to be married to kellyanne conway, a top adviser and leading defenders. some new developments in the war of word ahead. allergies with sinus congestion and pressure?
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. >> it's breaking news in a russian investigation, a source familiar with the matter telling the deputy attorney general rod rosenstein intend to stay on. the report says rosenstein sees himself as the heat shield unquote, someone that can take a hit when the report came out. news came at the end of the day that saw major development to release documents relating to those search warrants for the raid at the time, the president obviously was very upset about. we have the latest open both those stories. what are you learning about why rosenstein is staying oen at the doj, what does that mean as a heat shield exactly? >> certainly he wanted to make sure the attorney general and the now attorney general bill barr would have a clean slate, as they would come in, they
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wouldn't have to teal with any of the let's say the punch itself thrown at them because of the mueller report or any political issues as a result of it. rod rosenstein was there from the beginning. he is really the person responsible for appointing the special counsel. you will remember, jeff sessions recuse himself, comey gets fired. this whole thing ensues where they decide they need a special counsel to take over this investigation. it was ultimately rod rosenstein who made that decision. so in order to sort of see this thing through, rod rosenstein, for whatever reason is staying. it's clear that things are not perhaps wrapping up as quickly as we all thought and that look, this could come at any day, for now, rod rosenstein, he always intended, he wanted to stay to see this through. he kept delaying his leaving the department of justice, now it seems that that's continuing. we really don't know when the special counsel will finally deliver the report to the
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department of justice. once that happens, we certainly expect for rod rosenstein to leave shortly thereafter. >> just for clarification, the source, are they using the term heat shield of their own? or is that a phrase rosenstein, himself, has used? to we know? >> that was a phrase told to my colleague pamela brown in a source close to rod rosenstein who said that to her essentially saying that he, rotd rosd rosen wants to take the punches, if there are punches of the report, there could be a while when that happens. certainly everyone expects there to be political fallout once the thing gets landed on the attorney general's desk. >> in terms of the release of the michael cohen raid documents today, what itself the headline from that? what do we learn from it? >> one of the things we saw for the first time, is that the mueller team started looking at michael cohen just months after robert mueller was appointed.
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about two months or so after that they started getting e-mails, other suspense to get an understanding of what was going on with michael cohen, his business interests, whether or not he was making money off of foreign countries, whether or not he was doing any work for foreign countries and not reporting it. and that essentially is what started all of this. it is then all of that information 57d plus other information that the mueller team and the fbi learned that is up to then is when they send everything to the southern district of new york, where, obviously, the campaign finance laws were investigated. >> and everything about the campaign finance violation, that was redacted? >> it was. and that's significant, anderson. what it tells us is that a lot of that is under investigation. there is about 20 pages in the search warrant affidavits that are completely blacked out. where we can't even read anything on them. which indicates that there are still portion of that
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investigation that are ongoing and we could see more people being charged in connection with a campaign finance laws. in africa, you know, the president, donald trump, was implicated by michael con. by the department of justice in that crime, michael consaid that he was directed by donald trump to make those payments. there are other people in the trump organization that perhaps are facing some scrutiny. >> that tells us that that very much is still under investigation. >> all right. appreciate it. joining me now is democratic senator richard blumenthal, a member of the judiciary committee. so what -- if the idea of rod rosenstein staying is to be a heat shield as this source has said, who is he staying to be a heat shield for? >> well, robert mueller is a prosecutor with vast experience in very heated prosecutions. and so he's pretty combat tested. the idea that he needs a buffer or a heat shield is somewhat surprising, but the fact is,
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politically, he need some backup and i will tell you, members of congress will have his back if the president goes after him as is likely to happen. we seen what the president did when the offices of his lawyer, michael cohen raided, we've seen some of his remarks about resisting the prosecution. there is a credible case of obstruction of justice, a powerful case against donald trump. he is clearly feeling the heat, himself there in terms of the nike i michael cohen court documents, mueller zeroed in on michael cohen much earlier than anyone realized, is interesting. >> not only interesting, profoundly significant that document contains a wealth of detail, factual precision, that was collected by this prosecutor in just two months. and it's only a part of what he
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knows at that point, which was almost two years ago. so think of how much he knows now. i've said all along, we know only a fraction of what robert mueller knows. >> if there is 800 pages of documents from two years ago and mueller does actually write out a report, it will be interesting to see if we can learn how long that report actually is. >> the report, hopefully, will be long enough to contain the incriminating information that he has gathered about donald trump. not accidentally, donald trump was named in fact as an unindicted co-conspirator in the prosecution of cohen. and the reasons for his becoming individual number one, heels not named by actual name, but by clear reference as individual number one. >> but if he's not going to be prosecutor for a crime, isn't it entirely possible that robert
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mueller would not go into detail, if a person is not charged with a crime, isn't that a bit of criticism of comey's criminal of hillary clinton. >> if he's not violated a crime, that's why i authored a bill joined by another republican, another democrat that would require a report with those factual findings and evidence that includes all of the facts that implicate donald trump. the public has a right to know. and if he's not financial to be indicted because the justice department policies, they're not rules, they're not regulations prevented and if mueller is not going to present into a court the fact that he knows that are relevant to the potential criminal charges, there is a right on the public to know and i think that robert mueller has
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that obligation and the attorney general has the obligation to make it public. >> if and obviously, if that doesn't happen, you would want to see, we also now have, are reporting that the white house wants to review those documents before and whatever he's handed over to congress to look for executive privilege, you are fully prepared, the democrats are fully prepared to challenge each case? >> we will challenge it. i think that document will be suspended. there is no legitimate claim to executive privilege here. >> none? >> there is nothing in the regulations that justifies the president of the united states concealing criminality in the name of candid discussions with his advisers on policy. we're talking here about an effort to hide criminality, obstruct justice in the name of executive privilege and the purpose of executive privilege is to enable candid discussion
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among policy among his advisers. so i see nothing in those regulations that would justify a broad claim. >> if it's not found to be obstruction of justice by mueller, then you can't really make an obstruction of justice argument to some executive privilege from being claimed, no? >> i think the claim of the white house to review this report should not be upheld. the department of justice has a claim to review the report. the white house does not. and the department of justice should not cow tail to the white house and after all, the president has his lawyers, not even his white house counsel, potentially reviewing it, to protect him. not to let the public to know. >> it's not his job, it's the white house? >> exactly. >> senator blumen that, thank you. the president as you know has
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. >> if you were stripped of your assignments over white supremacy, it might be a chance to stay low. the iowa republican shared on facebook that alludes to a new civil war red states would win, that side has 8 trillion bullets. which the red state doesn't know which bathrooms to use. they say his supporters could
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get tough on the left and it would be very bad saying he has the military and police on his side. we had a chance to ask him about hit latest controversy. >> welcome congressman steve king. >> reporter: republican congressman steve king, meeting with constituents in the small iowa ton contractor town and almost making it through without being asked about the meme that both red state would win a civil war. reporters not invited to ask questions. but we did. >> congressman, before you say your good-byes. i want you to understand the posting on facebook if case of another civil war it's interesting here nobody asked that question. it was this, i find p found out
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about it beb posted yesterday morning at the same time i thought it was taken down. at about 8:30 it wasn't. the only people that care about that are national muse media. nobody has raised the issue around here flu is posted. why did you post it? >> i answered your question. we don't have to take any questions of the press. okay. i've answered your question report. indeed, some constituents did want a further explanation from your congressman. >> do you look at that page? especially found out that was posted yesterday morning. i don't manage that i'll say again i don't manage that facebook page. i can control it. i wasn't aware until ned morning. >> reporter: most of the people at the town hall were strong supporters of king and don't think it's fair he has skrut my
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of racism in the past flu is got beaten up by the media. i was wonder whack your take is on that. >> reporter: some constituents are trouble. this woman good a strange answer to her question. >> do you think a white society is superior to a non-white? >> i don't have an answer for that. that is so hypothetical. >> then thissancer. >> america is not a white society. it's never been a complete white society. we came here and joined the native americans, in many times in larger numbers of ours. i long said a baby can be lifted out of any household and can be raised as american as any other. >> reporter: i askled congressman king the exact question fol the mosque massacre in new zealand. >> i didn't hear that come up in this state at all. >> president trump was asked that. didn't say it specifically. >> i'm going to just head out
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and leave that be. >> gary tubman joins me. did the congressman say he did post the new civil war meme. congressman king threw someone under the bus, he did not tell who he had thrown under the bus. it's important to point out, if you put your name on the site, generally you are responsible for the site. the congressman did tell us he does write his own tweets. he doesn't have a government twitterer. >> thank you. we want to continue the conversation. kornell william books, former naacp president and ceo. pernell, there is a lot to unpack the idea he didn't know
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about this and removed it as soon as he did. >> if this were some isolated incident, it might be one thing by his staff. where you have a congressman with a long sorted ugly history of tweets and retweets and memes. this is not abberational, it's not isolational but a part of a continuing pattern. so the congressman is acting like a 21st century wasn't that be confederate, romanticizing the past in order to apply to the present. i'd like to remind the president in iowa no less than 3,000 iowans lost their lives in the civil war on the side of the union. >> that is to say the side of lincoln, the side of those that
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supported the eventual freeing of 4 million slaves. so the congressman needs to be aware of american history, certainly the history of iowans. it's an ugly tweet and a part of an ugly pattern. >> certainly also known in the wake of the congressman's prior long history of comments. even of the president's comments about having the armed forces, the police on his side, things can get very ugly. this whole idea of a civil war and it's, i don't know if it's bizarre or scary or how far one wants to view it, it just seems odd that a congressman would have this on his facebook page. >> well, it's all of the above, anderson. to be honest with you. i never thought that i would actually be concerned that a possible civil war would happen in this country. i've said it before. i'm worried about the peaceful transition of power in the next
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election. donald trump that tweet you referenced the bikers for trump and he's got the military and everybody and be careful if something happens. like that is insane. like what is he inciting? it's not the first time. he's poking at these kind of really ugly dangerous sentiments we haven't seen in this country in a very long time. skeeve ting then turning around, allowing something like that on his facebook page, whether he posted it or not. the way he's handled this is not acceptable. it's not. and i worked on capitol hill. i was a comeps director. we had people that controlled the congressman's social media. you knew who it was. if someone fired a staffer. if it wasn't him. it seems to me it's a cowardly response. it's irresponsible to imply bullets and a civil war and have
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a happy face i wonder who would win? this isn't a joke. we saw people slaughtered at a synagogue in new zealand, pittsburgh, charlottesville. this is real. i'm disappointed in steve king. i worked with him when i worked with congress. steve king and i were buddies. when i would go to i, what steve king was the nicest gracious host. that was many years ago. the steve king today, i don't know who that is. i am disappointed in him. he deserves to lose his committee chairmanship. he's drawn a primary opponent out there in iowa. hopefully the people of iowa had enough of it. shameful steve what are you doing? >> pernell, it's interesting, it would be one thing if in the wake of this, it was a mistake someone else, assuming he is telling the truth there and someone else posted it at that town hall when fare asked the question and then it turns out there were people in the audience who were concerned about it and followed up with it. >> that right.
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>> he could have said more than just, you know, i wasn't happy with post, i took it down. no one today tries to explain why he could have said i don't believe there should be a civil war. i don't want there to be a door. the idea we would be pitting americans against each other. anything anything like that. it's just i didn't want that posted. >> that's right. the congressman is not taking responsibility for his rhetoric. his tweets or re-tweets. let's keep in mind where all this is happening. where we have over this past weekend, new zealand people slaughtered. a hate crime rate in this country which has gone up three years in a row. literally on muslims, jews, african-americans, latinos. you pick the group.
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transfolk, gay folk, everybody, so many people who are a part of this consequence of this rhetoric so in this moment he declines to speak to iowans by saying that he had nothing to do with that ideology of white nationalism. we have to be clear about this. this tweet was about transphobia to legitimize white nationalism and using a bathrooms of literally spitting on the graves of people who laid down thooeb their lives, eventually forming of slaves might be 83. that's what this is about this congressman needs to be called out. we need to be clear about this. he may be a well meant racist. he is no yet a racist.
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pg&e wants you to plan ahead by mapping out escape routes and preparing a go kit, in case you need to get out quickly. for more information on how to be prepared and keep your family safe, visit pge.com/safety. there was more escalation today. the husband and white house aid has been taking digs at president trump over twitter since he took office. mr. conway tweeted out a definition of nars cystic
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personality disorder imlying the president has shown many of those symptoms. today he shot back retweeting remarks by his 2020 campaign manager that wrote we all know that donald trump turned down mr. kellyanne conway for a job he wanted. he barely worked at the justice department and was either fired, quit, didn't want the scrutiny and now he hurts his wife because she's jealous of her success. potus dooichbt know him. conway posted this congratulations you just guaranteed millions of more people will learn about nas cystic personality disorder. great job. i think i still said it wrong. mr. conway rarely talks about this but he did today to the washington post. >> so what did george conway tell you about his verbal attacks on the president and twitter and why he chooses to wage them so publicly.
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>> well, george conway, his answer was interesting to me. he says he does it so he doesn't scream at his wife. i tweet for 15 to 20 minutes in the morning it allows me to go on about my day and gets it off my chest and allows me to focus on other things. there's been a growing following. an exponential following of him now and that's attractive to him as well to have a larger sway on social media and his opinions. what he said today is a lot of it is just about a stress relief to some degree. >> the notion that the president doesn't even know george conway is certainly not true. not that we should be surprised but it's not true. >> right. he met the president dating back to 2006 where he helped the president on a condo board dispute in manhattan and secured a letter from the president thanking him for what a good lawyer he was.
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and the mueller probe and he has gone to parties with the president. he's met with the president's team. there's a number of occasions that show that the two men know each other. they were never personal friends but they have a relationship and have known each other for many years. >> you also report on a british embassy party that kellyanne attended last month. what happened there? >> she was talking with the new york times columnist, andrea mitchell, the nbc reporter and sally quinn a former journalist at the washington post and went on a rant about her husband. she said the media should stop giving him attention. that she was jealous of her success and the president also thought he was jealous of her success.
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and frustrations over her marriage and particularly what her husband says publicly. it was a pretty striking scene. >> she's right. no one wants their personal lives scrutinized but this is just a bizarre situation. she is a top adviser to the president of the united states. he is publicly calling the man his wife is working for unstable and the president is now attacking his top adviser's husband. i guess -- does she stay in the job? did conway talk about the -- i don't want to ask about the state of their marriage but i find the situation very strange. especially with the president attacking his adviser's husband. >> she has shown no signs of wanting to leave the job. she's been prominent adviser.
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done several interviews defending the president. she's been one of his most valuable supportive defenders and the president loves her for that. one of george conway's frustrations he said to me in the interview was that she wouldn't leave the job and he's tried to get her to repeatedly. i don't want to get into the contents of someone's marriage. it's not for me to analyze but i will say that's two parallels. the president weighing in on the spouse of a top adviser. the only parallel is martha mitchell that was a wife of richard nixon, one of his top advisers that helped precipitate watergate in nixon's eyes. for the most part, this doesn't happen publicly. can you imagine george bush weighing in on carl rhodes spouse or president obama on david axlerods. it's not normal but it's not without precedent either. >> appreciate it. >> thank you. >> stay with us on this busy tuesday night. more on president trump's continued attacks against the
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