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happening now, breaking news, what mueller found. the president, congress and the nation are all waiting to learn the bottom line on the special counsel's report. we're getting new hints at the timeline for revealing secret findings from the russia investigation. under the bar, the attorney general has been reviewing mueller's report all day, deciding what he can share and what he'll keep under wraps. we're breaking down william bar's process as he bores in on mueller's principal conclusions. the president is at his florida resort standing by for specifics on the investigation he's railed against for nearly two years. are the lawyers he brought with him encouraging him to stay silent? house democrats just held an emergency strategy session on their demands for full disclosure of the mueller report. tonight they're escalating their threat of subpoenas if they and
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the american people don't get the information they want. we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in the "the situation room." ♪ we're following breaking news on the roll-out of robert mueller's confidential report on the russia investigation. but the attorney general william barr just left the justice department where he's been holed up all day pouring over mueller's findings. barr has promised to share the principal conclusions with congress as soon as this weekend. house democrats held an emergency conference call on their demand for fill disclosure and their game plan once they hear from barr, possibly tomorrow. the president has been playing golf down in florida, staying off twitter at this critical moment. americans now poised to learn more about what mueller has and hasn't uncovered. this hour, i'll talk with the senate judiciary committee
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member richard blumenthal and our correspondents and analysts are also standing by for this special edition of "the situation room." first let's go to pamela brown. we haven't heard from the president about the delivery of the mueller report, at least not yet. >> yeah. that's right, wolf. we are just learning at this hour that the attorney general bill barr is leaving the justice department after spending nine hours there today scrutinizing and analyzing the confidence report from robert mueller. in fact, we could find out those principal conclusions as soon as tomorrow. but in the wake of the delivery of that report, the president has been uncharacteristically quiet. as the president spent the day on a florida golf course, the attorney general spent the day reading a report that could define donald trump's presidency. attorney general william bar and deputy attorney general rod rosenstein were both in the office today, reviewing mueller's findings. barr telling lawmakers he could release the principal
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conclusions of the report to them as soon as this weekend. tonight, as the wait for information continues, justice department officials say one thing is clear, there will be no more indictments related to the russia probe. the white house seizing on that as a victory, president trump attending a republican fund-raiser friday seated next to senator lindsey graham who went on the attack against the other candidate in the 2016 election, hillary clinton, saying, quote, we're going to make sure both campaigns are looked at, prompting chants of "lock her up" from other attendees. the president game to florida flanked be his legal team. just hours before the announcement that mueller was finished -- >> there was no collusion, there was no obstruction. everybody knows it. it's all a big hoax. the witch hunt, it's all a big hoax. >> president trump continued his attacks on the investigation, telling fox business americans will not accept a negative
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review. >> always interesting to me because a deputy that didn't get any votes appoints a man that didn't get any votes. he's going to write a report on me. people will not stand for it. >> reporter: even though the president did call for the release of the report this week -- >> let it come out, let people see it. that's up to the attorney general. >> reporter: barr has previously refused to commit to providing congress with a full report and said that doj rules prevent him from sharing damaging information about individuals not charged with crimes. >> all i can say right now is, my goal and intent is to get as much information as ki consistent with the regulations. >> reporter: democrats are demanding the report be made public in its entirety and have threated a subpoe eened a subpo. >> the president himself has called without qualification for the report to be made public. there is no reason on god's
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green earth why attorney general barr should do any less. >> reporter: white house press secretary sarah sanders saying late friday that the attorney general is in control of what happens next, tweeting, the next steps are up to attorney general barr and we look forward to the process taking its course. the white house has not received or been briefed on the special counsel's report. at last check with the white house, that is still the case. the white house has still not been briefed on mueller's confidential report. but the president is down in mar-a-lago still with top advisors, top white house lawyers who are cautioning, wait and see, let's find out more about what's in this report before spiking the football. >> they've got the report. he spent, what, nine hours at the justice department, the attorney general bill barr today, reviewing it. there is a sense of urgency right now. >> that's what's so surprising, that there is this sense of urgency. we had been given indications this would take maybe up to two
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weeks to go through this to figure out what they can release. they're trying to move along as fast as they can. there are some positive signs here in terms of what bill barr wants to do here, the attorney general. it does appear that he wants to be very transparent. if we're led to believe as he's saying this is a comprehensive report, there's going to be a lot of information. his team, the deputy attorney general's team, they need to go through all this to try and figure out how they can distill it, what's classified, what's not, what are they okay with releasing. that's a very long process. i'm sure they'll spend most of the morning tomorrow doing the same thing before they release it. >> pamela, your source tells you that no one around the president seems to be panicking, there's no war room right now. what does that tell you? >> the president was out golfing today with kid rock, according to a picture kid rock had tweeted. clearly the president trying to send this message that he is not worried. talking to white house officials, there is certainly
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this feeling of in some ways they feel like this was vindication, like they won here. and the president seemed very relaxed today clearly. but i am told there is still a level of anxiousness about what is in this reported, because there could very well be unseemly allegations in the report, information about the president, about the campaign. the white house at this stage still doesn't know. that is why you're seeing this wait-and-see approach and that is why the president is being so quiet in response. >> cnn is now learning about yet another allegation, serious allegation being leveled at the former trump campaign chairman paul manafort, who's about to spend 7 1/2 years in jail. >> yeah. this is a bit of a head scratcher, wolf. what prosecutors say, there was a new court filing. they're saying in the forfeiture, in the money they're demanding that paul manafort as a result of his guilty plea and convictions is now forfeited, millions of dollars. >> $11 million. >> they're trying to get it. so a shell company, some company has come forward and said, hey,
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we're entitled to a million dollars of that. prosecutors are now saying they need to investigate because they think this shell company may be associated with paul manafort. it was created during the investigation as mueller was investigating paul manafort. now they're trying to figure out whether or not paul manafort is behind this. >> that's a very serious allegation indeed. don't go too far away. i know you're both working your sources. also tonight, house democrats are wrapping up the threat of subpoenas after holding an emergency conference call on the mueller report. manu raju is up on capitol hill. democrats are demanding full disclosure of the entire mueller report. they want it all made public, nothing classified. what are you hearing about the strategy they discussed today? >> reporter: yeah. they want everything public, including the underlying evidence. nancy pelosi made clear to her members in this private conference call that she wouldn't even accept a
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classified briefing over the sensitive information in the mueller report. she said that any briefing needs to be unclassified, they need to have public testimony to grill some of these officials and they need to see everything that mueller found. now, one thing the democrats made very clear in documents circulated to their members today, that they would potentially even go as far as issuing subpoenas to demand all that information. this is what they said in their talking points. they said if necessary, democrats would be prepared to use its subpoena authority to maintain the full report and underlying evidence, as well as to obtain briefing and testimony from the special counsel, the attorney general, deputy attorney general and other necessary officials. these 11 democrats including six house democratic chairmen sent a letter on friday to heads of various agencies including the justice department demanding they preserve those record, warning if any records were
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destroyed, potentially that could constitute a crime. the question is what democrats will do if the justice department does not ultimately comply and they are unsuccessful in pushing forward on their subpoenas. nancy pelosi made clear that a summary of the findings would not be sufficient. she said that in a letter to her colleagues today, she said the attorney general's offer to provide the committees with a summary of the report's conclusions is insufficient. congress requires a full report and the underlying documents so the committees can proceed with their independent work including oversight and legislating to address any issues the mueller report may raise. a lot of anxiety, but the buildup is intensifying. if democrats don't get what they want, that's going to be a fight that could consume weeks and months here on capitol hill. >> certainly could. if the report effectively vindicated president trump, do democrats run the potential risk of pursuing the president too
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aggressively? >> reporter: that's certainly a risk democrats have been aware of for some time. nancy pelosi has been trying to tamp down calls for impeachment. you have not seen democrats issue many subpoenas even though they've been in power for three months now because of the fact they're worried about the prospect of overreaching. they've been trying to build the case for what they believe is white house intransigence and eventually move forward with subpoenas. they believe they can push forward in things where the public is on their side such as the disclosure of the mueller report. democrats and republicans want to see the report. but if they're viewed as overreaching in things mueller has already looked into, that's where they run the political risk. that's why it's so important for democrats to see what mueller found so they can see what holes they need to plug, what they want to investigate further. they have to sell to the public what they're doing. that's going to be one of the
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challenges in the weeks ahead. >> let's get some more on all the breaking news. senator richard blumenthal is joining us. he's a democrat who serves on the judiciary and armed services committee. thanks so much for joining us. as you know, the principal conclusions from the mueller report could be made available to you, to congress, to the american public as early as tomorrow. many lawmakers want to see the underlying facts as well. why is that evidence so important to you? >> we understand the plan is currently to provide those principal conclusions from william barr to us sometime tomorrow afternoon. but those conclusions are completely inadequate if there's a institute fsubstitute if the d evidence. the american people really deserve the mueller report, not the barr report. they paid for this
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investigation. they deserve to see all the findings. the reason is, quite simply, first of all, the mueller investigation has already revealed deeply serious wrongdoing. there may be no indictment of the president. >> by the way, we're showing our viewers bill barr just arriving at his home. he spent more than nine hours over at the justice department reviewing the mueller report. go ahead, senator. >> the fact that there's no indictment of the president is probably dictated as much by the policies that the department of justice has adopted as a result of the office of legal counsel opinion. it's not binding but mueller probably decided he couldn't indict a sitting president. but there has been deeply serious wrongdoing here that goes to our national security. there was an attack on america. it was by the russians and there's evidence that the trump campaign benefitted from it, in
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fact, colluded with it. that evidence deserves to be made public and the questions answered that are on americans' minds. >> senator, there's no indictment of the president's son donald trump jr. or son-in-law jared kushner. there are no guidelines that say they can't be indicted. >> and there may be indictments in the future, not necessarily in washington, d.c., as a result of the mueller investigation by the special counsels himself, but there could be in other jurisdictions. what's been revealed, for example, is that the president encouraged the release of hacked e-mails stolen by the russians, derogatory to hillary clinton that he provided and directed that it be provided to the russians polling data while they were conducting this social media manipulation campaign.
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he was negotiating a trump tower moscow with the russians at the same time as he was denying it to the american people. and his son and son-in-law, donald trump jr. and jared kushner, were sitting down with russian agents they have were promised derogatory information about hillary clinton. so these examples -- and there are only a few examples of the kind of facts that the american people deserve to know in greater depth. there are a lot of questions about these instances. we owe itreallytothe great credit of the press that there was a lot of great reporting that enlightened the american people, but they deserve to see all of the facts and findings from this investigation. there need to be transparency. >> if there were hard evidence, senator, of a conspiracy between the trump campaign and russia, why didn't robert mueller prosecute the participants in
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that conspiracy? >> he did prosecute 13 russian agents. he prosecuted paul manafort and michael flynn. >> we're talking about american citizens, but manafort was charged and convicted. he's going to jail for 7 1/2 years, but not for conspireing or committing collusion illeg illegally with the russians, all sorts of other issues. >> their lies and many of them were convicted of lying either to a congressional committee or to the fbi, concerned dealings with the russians. in fact, roger stone was accused of lying about his contacts with the russians in the documents recently filed. manafort, the same after his conviction. so there were clear relationships between those issues involving their convictions even though they were tax fraud and other kinds of fraud for paul manafort.
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but the lies that they told were connected to this attack on america. and the reason that this investigation began was a counter intelligence inquiry. that kind of counter intelligence inquiry is directly related to our responsibilities in congress, oversight responsibility and obligations to reform and enhance the law to better protect america from these kinds of attacks by the russians in the future. >> we're going to see what happens. let's see if those principal conclusions are releeased as early as tomorrow and where we go from here. thanks for joining us. the breaking news continues next. we're told the trump team isn't panicking about the mueller report. but is the calm belying a storm ahead once details are made public? and how soon will the attorney general reveal the gist of mueller's findings. heyi'm craving somethingkin! we're missing.
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the attorney general william barr just wrapped up a full day over at the justice department, spend more than nine hours there reviewing robert mueller's report on the russia investigation. as barr was working, house democrats meld emergency talk h. they're demanding full disclosure of the mueller report and they're threatening subpoenas if they don't get it, warning the trump administration to preserve documents from the
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probe. what does it tell you that this report, at least the principal conclusions, could not be released today? >> i think there's a lot more work to do. clearly there is a lot to go through. they're sitting probably in a skiff. it's a secret compartmentalized area of the justice department, going through this, going through all the classified information. they're probably trying to figure out lots of lawyers involved, lots of aides are involved trying to figure out what they can release. it does sound to me like they do want to release as much as possible, which i think is a good sign. >> that will be encouraging, although the democrats want everything released. we saw the president playing golf today down in florida near mar-a-lago, his resort down in palm beach. what are you hearing about the white house's attitude toward what's going on? >> it depends. some people feel really good about what they heard yesterday.
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they feel confident that the president is vindicated here. some people inside the white house are a little more cautious than that. that's why you've seen the president be so silent today. he went and played golf today. we saw him in his car reading the newspaper. other than that, he has not tweeted at all. not only does the president tweet every day but especially on saturdays. today we haven't heard anything. today he was out golfing with kid rock, who posted a photo, the president smiling as he stands next to the singer. other than that, we have not heard much from the president or from the white house. though they were feeling good about the fact that there were no more indictments, i'm told the president has been pretty anxious waiting for this investigation to come to an end. he's been quizzing his legal team the last few weeks when is this going to be over. >> i think in contrast last weekend he tweeted some 50 separate times in the course of
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last weekend. what big outstanding questions need to be answered from your perspective? >> we have some sense of the big outstanding questions that remain. i think one of the biggest mysteries is related to paul manafort and his relationship with russia and ukraine and potential ties to the actual election interference. the special counsel's office has left these fascinating bread crumbs in their filing regarding manafort sharing polling data, referring to manafort calling constantikonstantin kilimnik as the heart of the investigation. the report is going to address that phone call with sergey kislyak during the transition period. whether or not donald trump directed him or was otherwise aware of that phone call at the
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time. that's a factual question but it's not a crime, it's not illegal, it's not collusion, it's not obstruction. if trump knew, it would put all of his later conduct in a different light. those are the questions. they really aren't legal conclusions and yet might prove really politically devastating for the president. >> even before the release of the report, the mueller investigation has been a pretty fruitful one over the past nearly two years. look what the special counsel has done over the past nearly two years, 199 overall criminal counts. look at the number of trump associates who had russian contacts that have now been detailed. all that is very significant. >> it's impressive. i think two things. first process and then substance. on the process side in terms of
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how they went about this investigation, it's a rare occasion where you don't have leaks every day. they've been able to keep this under wraps. i think from a prosper speck tiff, they've been able to do their job. from a substantive perspective, there's a feeling of wanting more. the report comes out, didn't come out, but we know it is out as of yesterday. and what were the big conclusions there? number one, it's over. number two, no more indictments. while these people lying to investigators, lying about that contact to russia with the investigation, process crimes, process crimes. these don't have anything to do with the issue of collusion, but i think everyone wanted to see to what extent was the president of the united states involved or any of his children involved. i think that leaved a big -- you know, it's undone and perhaps some dissatisfaction as it
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relates the democrats. >> you expect to hear directly publicly from robert mueller at some point? >> no, i don't. unless he appears before congress. mueller doesn't want to go out there and talk about his work. you never saw him. there were press conferences. he never stood by the deputy attorney general when they announced the indictment of the russians. he was nowhere to be found. and time and time again his office during this investigation almost never commented on anything. so, no, i don't expect him to say anything publicly. however, if members of congress want to talk to him, that's going to get tricky. >> we hear so much talk about that being a potential, them issuing a subpoena to get mueller in front of congress, but i have talked to people who say they have a hard time believing that mueller once in front of congress is going to put out anything more than bill
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barr would put in congress, because he doesn't want to supercede the attorney general there. >> you know who could potential potentially appear before congress? rod rosenstein, the deputy attorney general. he was overseeing the investigation. so i think an argument could be made that he should be the one. what pamela brown has been reporting is that one of the reasons rod rosenstein has stayed was to take some of the heat if there is going to be any heat once parts of this report start being released. >> there's a distinction between having the manager of something come forward than the practi practitioner who actually had their hands on the pulse of everything. i think congress would want to hear from him as to what the specifics were. >> in the hillary clinton e-mail investigation they were calling in not just comey but every single person who worked on the investigation. as we get into that fight about
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for the attorney general's summary of robert mueller's key findings. william bar left the justice department just a little while ago after spending this entire day over at the justice department working and reviewing mueller's report. it looks like there could be a battle involving what's called executive privilege, the white house citing that and demanding that certain aspects of mueller's report remain confidential. >> the president's legal team has been preparing for this for several weeks now, especially over the last three weeks or so as they've known mueller is wrapping up. they don't think that conversations the president has had with some people should be public. i think the president's legal team is ready to have that kind of a fight. the white house otherwise was not fully prepared to know how to respond to the end of the investigation. that's why you heard such a muted statement from sarah sanders yesterday, because they
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really didn't know what they were getting here. the white house really did not know what's going to be in this report. >> executive privilege doesn't cover all aspects of this mueller, russia investigation. >> the lawyers are making very, very broad executive privilege claims. executive privilege only plausibly ap plplies from the period of time after trump becomes president, only applies for conversations between and with government officials. so it might plausibly apply to say the elements of the obstruction investigation. that alleged conduct took place while trump was president and it mostly involved his communications with other government officials. but the entire inquiry related to the conduct of the trump campaign russian election interference, that all took place well before donald trump was president of the united states. executive privilege just on its face would not apply to any of that material. >> the democratic majority in the house of representatives are threatening to use their
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subpoena power to get this th information. how successful will they be? >> i think they'll have limited success. if they want people to come before them to testify, whether that's robert mueller, the deputy attorney general or others, i think they'll be able to compel them to appear and answer specific questions. on that issue i think the supreme court will do it. remember we're talking about coequal branches of government. the president obviously having the executive authority, that's a fight that ultimately will be resolved by the courts as they i evaluate. >> is there any sense that congressional democrats, the majority in the house of representatives,they've got the subpoena power. they're going to be able to uncover certain information that
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mueller was unable to discover? >> no. because when you think about all the classified information that mueller has, all of the intelligence gathering that they've done, all of the people they've interviewed, all the documents they've received -- >> the grand jury information. >> certainly, very good point. a lot of this did go through a grand jury. no, there's no way they're going to do anything more than mueller has already done. some new witness could come forward and say i was afraid to come talk to mueller, but i'll come talk to you. that is a possibility or some new evidence could come to light. but when you think all the about the time the fbi as spent on this, special counsel's office and they're going to continue to look at russian collusion. >> can the congress get their hand on some of the grand jury testimony? >> potentially that is the information that barr might have a real claim to not be able to share. they have more powerful tools
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including the grand jury. congress is very unlikely to come up with different answers that he did. that said, mueller was looking at a very, very narrow mandate. she w he was very strict in sort of staying in his lane. >> in watergate some grand jury information was made available to congress. >> exactly. whenever there's an argument for the compelling public interest for the disclosure of materials -- again we're getting five or six steps down into the legal fight. >> you have to remember this all started really, i think, from what the intelligence community was seeing. there was an enormous amount of intelligence indicating suspicious activity between people in the campaign and the russians, contacts, phone calls, communications, human sources talking about this. that is what sparked this interest. that is highly classified,
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highly sensitive. members of congress are probably not going to be able to get their hands on. that is what started this investigation. that has been the key here for investigators. the question is does this mueller report address all of that. >> that's important to remember, that if the public isn't seeing something it's not always just because president trump or the white house doesn't want it to. if it's related to some kind of intelligence source, that's why that would not become public. it's not all just because of executive privilege or grand jury or something the president says. >> ongoing investigations can matter too. >> certainly. that said, the group for whom the classified information argument will not work is the gang of eight in congress, that small group that is entitled to see everything. >> nancy pelosi said she wants everything made public. everybody, stick around. there's more news we're following including a closer look at the man behind the mueller report. your mornings were made for better things than rheumatoid arthritis.
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breaking news this hour, washington and much of the world are waiting for the attorney general william barr to share what he calls principal conclusions of the special counsel robert mueller's report on his russia investigation. our chief political analyst gloria borger takes a close look now at mueller and the key roles he's played over at the justice department for decades. >> reporter: after two years
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leading the russia investigation, special counsel robert mueller remains a mystery man, perhaps the most private public figure in washington. but he's still become a political pinata. >> there should have never been any mueller investigation. there was no collusion, there never has been. >> reporter: it's hard to remember that at the start -- >> i think he's the right guy at the right time. >> reporter: -- mueller was a bipartisan favorite. >> he would have been on anybody's list of the top five people in the country to have taken on this responsibility. >> reporter: the resume is long. at 74 he's been involved for decades in some of the justice department's most celebrated cases. mobster john gotti, manuel noriega. and the pan am 103 bombing in scotland in 1988, a case that still remains personal.
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>> i'll never forget the visit i made to lockerbie where i saw the small wooden warehouse in which were stored the various effects of your loved ones a white sneaker, a syracuse sweatshirt, christmas presents and photographs. >> he's been effectively the same bob mueller in every place he has ever worked, whether that was the us attorney's office in san francisco in the '70s, whether that was the george h.w. bush administration in the '80s, whether that was the d.c. homicide prosecutor's office in the '90s or the fbi in the 2000s. he is hard driving. he's tenacious. he is incredibly thorough and has a very strong sense of right or wrong. >> a registered republican, but it's hard to tell. >> 4 1/2 years of whatever, 2,000 meetings, i didn't hear him say anything political. >> how would you describe his
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politics? >> not. >> as in there are none? >> he's apolitical. >> ladies and gentlemen, the president of the united states. >> reporter: which is partly why president bush picked him to run the fbi in 2001. >> the fbi must remain independent of politics and uncompromising in its mission. >> reporter: mueller arrived at the fbi just seven days before 9/11. he served most of his term under bush. and when president obama asked him to stay for two more years, it required an act of congress. the senate approved 100-0. his m.o., a by the books guy even after hours. >> people told me after that christmas party, while we're going to the director's house, that at the end of the party he would flick the lights. it's going 7-9. at 9:03, light's on. >> he's in the office between 6:00 and 6:30 every morning.
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he would always plop his briefcase down on the chair opposite his desk. not sit down and shoot the breeze. immediately what's happening, what's going on. >> there's not a lot of back and forth. very quickly you're going to go through the details of the case. >> would you assume he is managing the special counsel's investigation the same way? >> heck yes. i wouldn't assume it. it's not like a professional choice. that's his dna. what's going on today, what have you got. i don't want to hear a lot of noise. i want to hear what the facts are, what's your judgment. let's move on. let's go. >> reporter: showing up at the special counsel's nondescript office at the same tie every day. spotting mueller anywhere became a bit of a washington parlor game. mueller grew up in philadelphia and attended an elite boarding
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school, a classmate of john kerry, then to princeton. but the combat death of college friend david hackett in vietnam inspired mueller to join the marines, he w marines. >> he was wounded in combat, shot through the leg, received a bronze star with valor, purple heart and was right back in the fight a couple of weeks later. >> in some sense you feel you've been given a second lease in life and want to make the most of it to kribcontribute in some. >> reporter: mueller soon found his way to the department of justice and remained there for most of the next four decades. >> my colleagues here at the department of justice -- >> reporter: and two short breaks to give private practice a try. >> bob mueller has been notoriously unhappy every time he has tried to be in private practice. he just can't defend guilty people. he'll meet with a client. they'll explain the problem and he'll say, well, it sounds like
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you should go to jail then. >> so he'll tell his client -- >> sounds like you're guilty. bob mueller is someone who sees the world in very black and white terms. >> reporter: by 2004, mueller was running the fbi when his phone rang. it was james comey, then deputy attorney general. it was the first time mueller and comey would find themselves in a very controversial legal drama. >> i was very upset. i was angry. >> reporter: comey was worried the bush administration was determined to keep a warrantless eavesdropping program that mueller, comey and their boss, attorney general john ashcroft thought was illegal. but ashcroft was in the hospital recovering from surgery, leaving comey in charge. >> i was concerned that given how ill i knew the attorney general was, that there might be an effort to ask him to overrule me when he was in no condition to do that. called director mueller. he said i'll meet you at the
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hospital right now. >> reporter: they had to race administration officials to ashkroas ashcraft's bedside. >> director mueller instructed the fbi present not to allow me to be removed from the room under any circumstances. >> reporter: in the end ashcroft backed mueller and comey. >> he backed mueller because he knew that bob mueller had this incredible nonpartisan reputation in washington. >> reporter: now trump view's mueller's relationship with suspicion. >> his best friend is comey, who's a bad cop. >> reporter: mueller loyalists deny it but it's all part of the landscape as the special counsel's work ends and the country waits to see how the long silent bob mueller will finally be heard. >> bob mueller believes in american institutions. so i think he wants to set the institutions up to make the best decisions they can. >> gloria borger reporting.
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excellent report there. the decision on who will get access to the mueller report, that decision is far from settled. >> no, it isn't settled. while mueller cares about institutions, i think what we're going to see is these institutions on a collision course with each other. it could be the congress, the justice all fighting over just how much of bob mueller's work they'll get to see. >> it will be very, very intense. gloria, good work. thank you very much. we have more breaking news just ahead on the mueller report. including reaction from the kremlin about the end of the investigation that has been so focused on russia.
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russian media. we have to mention that in russia, most of the media, especially television, is of course, state-run. we've been in touch with pretty much all the players here in moscow. we got in touch with the cemetery religion, with the cemetery religion and they haven't gotten back with us. she's commented on the mueller investigation so many times shelf doesn't want to comment what she calls another fragment. you can see how russian officials are waiting low, waiting to see what sort of principle conclusions will come out. we've been checking with the members of parliament that we normally hear from. many very often active on twitter. so far, complete silence from all of them will which goes to show the message control that you do find very often here in
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moscow. of course, all of. quite surprising considering that of the 37 entities and people who have been charged, after the mueller investigation, and because of the mueller investigation, 29 are russian. now of course, you have some members of rushl's military intelligence service. the gru, especially when it comes to hacking as well. and one of the big complexes you have is the internet research agency and all the affiliates. leading trying to start that disinformation campaign. >> thanks very much. to our viewers, thank you for watching. cnn newsroom is coming up next. flonase relieves your worst symptoms including nasal congestion, which most pills don't. flonase helps block 6 key inflammatory substances. most pills only block one. flonase.
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