it"suation room." you can always follow me on twitter and instagram at wolf blitzer. you can always tweet the show at cnn sit room. thanks very much for watching. erin burnett out front starts right now. >> out front next, trump tripping up his own party leaving the gop scrambling to come up with a new health care plan. is he hand agnew election gift to democrats. and asking for a court order to get their hands on the full mueller report, 300 plus pages. is the attorney general general, bill barr dragging his feet? >> pete buttigieg rising in the polls, telling democrats to keep the faith. let's go out front. good evening. i'm erin burnett. out front tonight, trump fumble, a republican congressman telling cnn trump is blowing it at a time he should be celebrating what's come out of the maturity

investigation so far. trump spiked the football in the end zone when he got news in the end zone but the damn ball came and hit us in the nose. that's a quote. they are stunned by his decision to ribatle obamacare instead of racing to the end and celebrating bob mueller's investigation. >> though obamacare has been an absolute disaster we will have a plan far better than obamacare including very importantly, pre-existing conditions which i've always been in favor of. >> if trump kills obamacare, obviously, you have tens of millions of people who don't know what they will get for coverage and you have to replace it. pre-existing conditions easier to talk about than do something about it. hundreds of millions of americans have benefitted from pre-existing conditions required to be covered by obamacare.

if you come out and say these things, you think you have a plan ready go, spike the football, here's my plan. no, the president does not. it is not clear if he has anybody working on one. most republicans are looking to the white house in fact. senator john kennedy saying, i'm anxious to see what the white house is going to recommend. senator roy blunt, i'm eager to see what theed a increasing proposes. senator john cornyn, we're waiting with baited breath. i guess you can take some snarkiness in that statement. the president says, no, guys, it's not up to me to come up with the plan. instead out of of the blue he rattled off a few republicans names, they're going to come up with a plan. ouch. one thing republicans know slamming obamacare did not work for them. they lost the house in the mid-terms. according to the exit polls healthcare was the number one issue and 75% of the people who said it was the number one issue voted for democrats.

in fact, the president is about to speak at a rally in michigan. take a look at those numbers. he barely won michigan, 0.2 of 1 percentage point. democrats flipped two congressional seats and picked up the governor's seat. the number one issue, healthcare. who did those voters pull the lever for? 74% of them democrats. live where the president is about to start speaking where you are, literally, kaitlyn. republicans, are they the only ones who don't want trump to have this fight? >> reporter: no. they're actually not. i talked to several people inside the white house today who do not think this is a wise fight for the president to get into. instead, they wish he would focus on the russia investigation because that's been such a great week for them and watching the news play out and instead healthcare has become the leading story. the president said he tasked the

three republican lawmakers coming up with a healthcare proposal but that is not what we're hearing from our sources at capital hill. capitol hill is pointing at the white house and the white house is pointing at capitol hill saying they're the ones to come wake up a pro-s so sal here. it seems they are having a messaging problem with this new healthcare fight and why you've seen the president doubling down on his push for that and the vice president of the united states calling for new healthcare proposal and press secretary, sarah sanders going after democrats on healthcare. you can expect the president, when he's on stage behind me in grand rapids in a few minutes to also continue to make that push for healthcare. >> thank you very much, kaitlan. we'll see what the from has to say since he picked this by himself. a member of president trump's 2020 re-elect advisor

counsel and david gergen, advisor to four presidents. >> the president spiked the football and okay they're okay with that with the mueller investigation being over. then quote the damn ball came up and hit us in the nose. >> classic. >> is this a big mess for the president? >> yes. in many ways it's a dangerous and i believe reckless gamble on his part. he may pull it off. he surprised us before. we have to give him that. having said that, what strikes me, it's very similar to what happens when presidents win a second term. they can get very arrogant and over-read their power and make big mistakes, just when you think everybody will lay down in front of me, i'm king tut and waters will part. >> pick the hardest thing because you just had the mueller victory. >> he overrode a lot of people.

i think the democrats have to be careful as well here because the medicare for all is an expensive proposition if you go pure medicare for all. i would think this would push some of the democrats into saying we're for a public option on healthcare. if you want to come into the public system you can but it's not for everybody. >> rob, look, i think some of these people are big supporters of the president in most cases. john cornyn, quote we are waiting with baited breath. you can only imagine the tone with which that was delivered. he's an ally of the president. basically, what the beep are you doing, buddy? >> the timing was really bad on this because he came out of this mueller report with a lot of -- he was completely exonerated, most people think. he could have moved on to other things. i believe david is right. this is risky in that my party

dropped the ball. complained for eight years under obama. >> obama is a disaster. $50 billion a year to prop it up. 30 million people still uninsured. obamacare itself has become unaffordable for a lot of people. the issue is, what will we do about it, if you're going to criticize if they don't have a plan. most people say, i antioxidants have health insurance or don't. if i don't, can i get it? is it pre-existing or a given. >> it is obamacare. >> and they won't change that. or you will lose. >> the big challenge -- let me play a little bit about what president trump said today about getting rid of obamacare. >> the cost of obamacare to people is far too much. the deductibility is ridiculous. it averages more than $7,000,

meaning it's unuseable. it's been a disaster and we will take care of pre-existing conditions better than they're now. >> how hard is that going to be? get pre-existing included and bring costs down. that's not easy, i imagine you know better than anybody. >> it's certainly not. i lived through months and months and came wake up plan even we didn't think was perfect but better than before because millions of people were covered with pre-existing conditions. donald trump is not a detailed guy or policy guy. we think he's completely miscalculating in this case because of all the points you've already made about how popular the democrats positioning on healthcare is in comparison with the republicans. i will say, even the affordable care act has become a lot more

popular over time as the individual pieces have been broken apart. there is agreement and effort, i think, by many democrats to improve, to build on it. that's how policy making should go. we should do more to bring down the costs and should be more options in the system and where the conversation should be. >> let's just say, david, the best thing the president has going for him right now is this medicare for all point. you look at democrats, become popular to say that. people like bloomberg will come out and say, what are you guys talking about? this is not affordable. point of debate. vice president pence is saying, the boss is doing this, i'm getting on board. the reason you're doing it because you're a bunch of socialists, here he is. >> as obamacare fails you should know democrats are continuing in their request for a government takeover of healthcare openly called for socialized medicine

under the guise of medicine for all, leading to rationed healthcare, as president trump said just recently, soon, the republican party will become known as the party of healthcare, and we're going to have a great healthcare plan for all of the american people. >> he's on board with the messaging, we will have a great plan. put aside this great plan. who knows what they will come up with no one has come with in 10 years. the point, will they be able to stick this socialized medicine for all so negative for democrats that helps democrats? >> i don't think so. i think we're in the preliminary stages on the democratic side. are there democrats who favor medicare for all and have a very expensive program. of course there are. i do not believe the nominee of the democratic party will be up there asking for a trillion plus kind of spending on healthcare. i don't think they will go there. nancy pelosi has read this party

and politics of this very well. she's pulling the party back already. joe biden is going to do more of that. i think there's a danger for the democrats. i absolutely understand why pence is going after it. the best defense is a good offense. in some ways, doesn't this remind you what's going on in britain with brexit? it's been a pit for conservatives, theresa may and no one solution. with healthcare there is no easy solution to this. why we don't have it. >> on the economy he's going to win on that. in immigration, he's going to win in the end. the choices people have to make is, do i want obamacare changed, fixed improved, he said he would do or do i want this government run i don't have a choice who my doctor is. kamala harris is out there if she's the nominee. >> people have choice under medicare for their doctor and under obamacare for their doctor. i don't know anyone -- >> private insurance, kamala

harris has said, get rid of it. >> there was some when they thought there would be none. very very few. it's not just true. >> you have far less of a choice. far less of a choice. >> i've looked at all the democrats healthcare care plan. i will agree with david. the only person dug in is bernie sanders. the other democrats, kamala harris, even elizabeth warren have ko sponsored many different options. what we're looking at in terms of how the american people see it, not different bills, who will do more to make access more affordable and more accessible. right now, democrats are winning on that because they've done more on that. that is a very high hill for donald trump and the republicans to climb. >> david. >> the real quick issue is who will take away my healthcare coverage. 20 million people will lose their coverage. 20 million people in this country have pre-existing conditions. >> that's where you define it

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new tonight, nancy pelosi demanding, attorney general bill barr give it up, the mueller report and for writing a so-called arrogant summary. >> no thank you, mr. attorney general, we do not need your interpretation. show us the report and we can draw our own conclusions. we don't need you interpreting for us. it was con descending, it was arrogant and it wasn't the right thing to do. >> that coming as democratic staffer tells cnn quote the primary obstacle to seeing the full report is grand jury information. the house judiciary chairman, jerry nadler, has asked barr to get a court order to release it.

barr so far has not committed to doing that. out front right now. former u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york, former assistant secretary for department of homeland security under obama also. the full report, to be clear, to get all these terms, the full mueller report, 300 to 400 pages of it contains grand jury information. the court has to approve that release. you can't, even if you're attorney general, go here it is, you have to get a court to approve it. how difficult is it to get this court order? is this a way for barr to drag his feet? >> it shouldn't be a way to drag feet. it's not automatic it gets granted. it was granted in watergate when jaworski, the special counsel asked for it to be unsealed and when ken starr asked for it in the clinton investigation. the idea if it's an insurmountable obstacle, if

that's how barr is portraying it, is completely wrong. you have to go to a judge and have to take a week to draft the application and judges may take a week doing it. >> if barr wanted it, in a few weeks we should get it. >> it shouldn't be an obstacle. >> it shouldn't be an on on stackling but barr hasn't committed to doing it. if i were nadler, i would release what you can now and what's fought over release later. in other words, don't hold up the release or whatever barr is envisioning the release will be. get as much as possible. from the outside, i cannot believe how bad barr is fumbling this. they had a story of no collusion on sunday. by tuesday, the story is the cover-up, if barr wants to release and have people read this, it's only going to get worse.

people are filling in the rumors and gossip. people have no idea. barr is fumbling this if he is a political beast that wants to protect the president at this stage. >> the polls can change. but still 56% of the american people felt there was collusion even though barr made it clear his summary was mueller said that did not happen. this is barr's summary that was based upon. when it comes to barr's summary, how do you sum up 3 to 400 pages in 48 hours in four pages? >> it's very hard to imagine how you could create an accurate -- i don't mean he's lying in it, but a fair summary of what is in the report. >> how do you show every nuance and it is black-and-white as it's portrayed. >> i've written reports of internal investigations, the first 25 pages, maybe 20 pages is an executive summary and

seems consistent with what juliet said, the priority should be start with releasing the executive summary that does not have a lot of grand jury material and move on to releasing the rest of it as soon as you get permission. >> do you think attorney nadler is worried that bill barr will not feed into a narrative saying there was no collusion is not the same thing as establishing no collusion an all of this? >> i just think that -- i don't think nadler, democrats or republicans who want to see the report need to buy into the narrative of trump supporters, collusion or bust. they created that narrative. that's not the narrative of the report. we already know this from the barr memo, talks about russian influence in the campaign, talks about behavior of trump people that may not be up to the level of criminal activity. so, if you buy into the collusion or bust, yeah, i'll

take a four page summary, i know what the answer is. that's not what mueller did. 300 pages later suggests -- i guess an easier way to put it, you can say everything is fine a lot quicker than 300 pages. >> i think that's actually a very good way to put it. for complete exoneration you wouldn't need 300 pages to do it. you'd need three words. thank you very much. next, the mastermind behind obama's victory, david axelrod and why he says pete buttigieg is worth a look. >> what about economic fillet? >> i do not approve of their politics but i approve of their chicken. >> and then the governor of puerto rico makes a thinly veiled threat. not in the not thinly veiled. >> puerto rico has been taken better care of by donald trump

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new tonight, the person rising in the polls, pete buttigieg. he's ahead of cory booker and many others well-known on the national stage. he is now talking about his faith openly as a gay episcopalian. >> reporter: pete buttigieg wants democrats to claim the faith. >> i think we've been too susceptible where the path has said the right claims religion. >> reporter: a democrat, afghan veteran, episcopalian married his husband in their church last year. >> a day like this was not even possible not very long ago. >> reporter: now, exploring a run for the white house, he sold cnn's van jones, his faith and family keep him grounded. >> the imagery of christ when the divine comes to earth as being in a servant mode, it

comes from my community, a community i think just wants you to keep your feet on the ground. it comes from my relationships, my husband who will never let my head get too big because we have laundry to deal with at home. >> reporter: his faith is in contrast to that of many conservatives who oppose gay marriage on religious grounds including mike pence. >> please don't judge my faith by our former governor. >> is it that he stopped believing in scripture when he started believing in donald trump? i don't know. >> reporter: he says he draws from his faith a sense of humility and commitment to community. >> what could be more different than what we're being shown in washington right now, often with some people who view themselves as religious on the right cheering it on? >> reporter: white evangelicals and churchgoers have been a key part of the republican base in

recent elections and key supporter of president trump. buttigieg is trying to appeal to people who may feel left behind. >> if you're conservative from an older generation and you were brought up by people you trusted to believe it was morally wrong to be for example in a same sex marriage, and then the pace of change has happened so quickly, i benefitted from the pace of that change. i also understand how disorienting it must be for people to have gone through that. >> reporter: his message of unity doesn't even stop there. it extends to chick-fil-a whose president voiced opposition 0 same sex marriage. >> do like chick-fil-a? >> i do not approve of their politics but i kind of approve of their chicken. >> you're my kind of guy, man. maybe if nothing else, i can build that bridge. >> buttigieg will have his work cut out for him with voters. in a recent general society survey, the number of americans who now identify with no religion is about the same as

both evangelicals and catholics. erin, when you think about it, pete buttigieg is going out trying to connect with voters on faith. that number who identify with no religion has only risen dramatically over the past two decades. >> fascinating. thank you very much. i appreciate it. now, former senior advisor to president obama, david axelrod and host. what i think is interesting is that you are a person who knows who is who well before the rest of us do. you have note buttigieg for a long time. you were a guest at his wedding and don't just know him peripherally, personally. you say he is truly a person of faith. >> there's no question about it. as he said in that interview, it's something that informs his politics. he's not ostentatious about it but clearly something he says

keeps him grounded. the fact he's so grounded is part of his appeal. you look at the president we have today. if you feel like the likely thing voters will turn to someone who is the antithesis of that, in many ways buttigieg fits that bill because he is a person of faith and guided that way. >> you heard him openly questioning mike pence's faith. it is political because of the state they come from. is it smart politics for buttigieg to bring up mike pence and question his faith. >> yeah. i saw that during that town hall, he was responding to a question about it. it's obvious that question would come up because he is a gay man in a state where pence's opposition to homosexuality was

very much central to the political debate there. you know, i think what he was saying in that town hall, as i read it, that pence's support of trump, who buttigieg called the porn star presidency, talked about the porn star presidency was inconsistent with the persona that he projected in the state of indiana and in his politics. on a slightly different point, it's interesting to me, when you think about the last three democrats who got elected president, jimmy carter, bill clinton, barack obama, all of them, in some ways, called upon their faith and their religious beliefs as part of their presentation to voters. it was something that broadened their constituencies and perhaps it will have the same impact for

buttigieg. >> it does broaden the appeal. you spoke to buttigieg before he was known to voters in 2017, talking to him about ax files about where hillary clinton went so wrong. here's a clip of your conversation. the whole theme of hillary's campaign, i'm with her. we had t-shirts and buttons, i'm with her and then when it became clear he was the nominee, i'm against him. the person at home, okay, who's talking about me. >> do you think he has what it takes to win the nomination? >> that's a very hard question. he has a long way to go. you point out, you say, i knew him before other people knew him. a lot of people still don't know him. there was a poll in iowa he did relatively well. he still is only known to less than half the voters there. in terms of intellect and temperament and unique range of experiences he's had, i think he has something to sell that may

be quite appealing. he is also 37 years old. he comes from a small community in the midwest, and those things are going to raise questions. he's going to have to show, through his performance and his ability to put together and organization that is up to this task that he -- that people should look beyond that and consider him as a guy who can sit in that office. >> david, thanks. i appreciate your time. for those that want to hear from mayor buttigieg, you can this weekend, on the van jones show at 7:00. tonight, puerto rico's governor, very tough words directed at the president. >> if the bully gets close, i'll punch the bully in the mouth. >> president trump undermining his own education secretary. she'd been doubling down on funding cuts on his budget to the special olympics. >> i have overridden my people.

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tonight, tensions escalating between president trump and puerto rico's governor as the island pushes for more disaster relief funds. >> puerto rico has been taken care of better by donald trump than by any living human being, and i think the people of puerto

rico understand it. but do you have a mayor of san juan that frankly doesn't know what she's doing, and the governor, they got to spend the money wisely. >> that was kind of restrained, i guess, coming after the puerto rican governor told our jim acosta this today. >> if the bully gets close, i'll punch the bully in the mouth. >> out front now, former democratic congressman from illinois and steve rogers, member of the trump 2020 election advisory board. the president, you heard him there, says he has done more for the people of puerto rico than any living human being. your response. >> the truth is at the moment, the inspector general of hud is conducting an investigation because alleged attempts of this administration to stop the money that's been appropriated to the people of puerto rico. let's remember, this is the same

president of the united states that when he visited the island, threw paper towels at people. and then he said they were lazy. he said the reason things aren't going well on the island, they expect the government to do it all for themselves, basically blaming the people for the worst catastrophic. as you remember, he said, give me an a, i've done such an excellent job, only 15 deaths. we learned from two renowned universities, one over 3 thousand the other over 4,000 deaths making it more deaths in puerto rico than katrina. what a devastating effect. yet the president of the united states yesterday was meeting with senators, the senate leadership saying, don't give puerto rico any more money. >> steve, let me ask you about this. this issue of appropriations.

congress has aappropriated $20 billion. only $1.5 billion approved for spending. that is a huge gap. can the president really say he has done more for puerto rico than any other living human being? >> not only the president says it himself the governor you just rolled a video on the air praised the president of the united states when all this was happening for his effective, listening to the petitions of the people. along with the governor was a congresswoman named jennifer gonzalez cohen, who took a lot of time praising the president's response and the amount of money, time and effort he gave puerto rico. if you want to talk about some facts, those are facts. this is ongoing. this is a fluid situation. billions of dollars are going to puerto rico. people are taking it out of context. >> $1 billion approved for spending to be clear. >> $14,900 they've only spent?

the point is this, puerto rico's $120 billion in debt. all right. the president of the united states wants to make sure when money is sent to puerto rico, that they will send it appropriately. by the way, fema has declared puerto rico as a high risk -- a very big high risk when it comes to managing government grants. those are facts. he's a businessman, remembe, not a politician and he's doing this in a very business fashion way. >> congressman, let me give you a chance to respond to what the puerto rican governor has done. he originally was playing nice with the president for quite some time. that has obviously dramatically changed. the governor of puerto rico came out and said this. let me play it again. >> if the bully gets close, i'll punch the bully in the mouth. >> congressman, is that appropriate? >> the worst recent catastrophic

we've seen -- no, i don't think it is appropriate. i think we need to keep our moral compass. we don't use the language of donald trump and language he uses at his rallies he says punch somebody. violence is not the answer to inhumane treatment of this government to the people of puerto rico. you know where you punch? you punch at the ballot box. i will say something. in florida, there are over a million puerto rican, hundreds of thousands of them displaced because of this catastrophe of this hurricane. and probably more coming. the inhumanity of the people. if he isn't picking on transgender community or muslims or taking on reproductive rights of women, he has to pick on someone. today, his inhumanity is being shown to the government of puerto rico.

a 40% cut in nutritional assistance. that means people in hospitals dying of aids getting cut nutraceal value. senior citizens bed bound. nutritional value. this is not the america i grew up in. >> the congressman just opened up a door. i will walk right through it. congressman, you said the president is picking an issue. what happened between the time the governor of puerto rico praised the president and time he met the democrats. i know what happened. poof, russian collusion went away and the democrats needed something to tag the president on. this is all about your political agenda and your party's political agenda. the president of the united states has done a darned good job and people appreciate it. we have a big hispanic community here in new jersey and i haven't heard many criticisms of the president. in fact, the unemployment rate in the hispanic community is the greatest ever and people are praising him for the job he's

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by. devos is responding in a statement, and she's playing ball, playing the party line. i am pleased and grateful the president and i see eye-to-eye on this issue and he has decided to fund this special olympics grant. this is funding the problem wit that's what she really felt, this is totally different than what she said just earlier today. ryan nobles is "outfront." >> betsy devos, under fires for days for her agency's proposal to slash $18 million in funding from the special olympics, starting with a viral moment defending the position. >> do you know how many kids are going to be affected by that cut, madam secretary? >> let me just say again, we had to make some difficult decisions with this budget. >> i'll answer for you, that's okay, no problem. it's -- >> but then today some hedging.

>> did you personally approve? i think a yes or no will do the $18 million cut of the funding for special olympics? >> no, i didn't personally get involved in that. >> well, i want to tell you, whoever came up with that idea gets a special olympic gold medal for insensitivity. >> reporter: the education secretary wouldn't say whose idea it was. >> you said you were not the person that proposed this funding change. can you explain who in your administration did? madam secretary have, you spoken to the president about this at all? >> reporter: the cuts are a tiny part of a 10% reduction in the $70 billion department of edge budget. devos has claimed special olympics gets enough funding from private donors and didn't need federal funding. she then turned the tables on democrats, claiming they were playing politics. >> let's not use disabled children in a twisted way for your political narrative.

that is disgusting and it's shameful. >> reporter: but late today, in the face of nationwide outrage, the president turned the tables on her. >> i just told my people, i want to fund the special olympics, and i just authorized a funding of the special olympics. >> reporter: the stunning about-face by trump comes even as fellow republicans were criticizing the proposal. >> do you support the administration's request to cut funding to the special olympics? >> no. i fully support special olympics. >> reporter: today's switch should be welcome for supporters of the special olympics who were taken aback by the proposal. >> it's a bit shock for me. all i can do is pray for special olympics. >> reporter: but it marks another public relations blunder from the education secretary whose had a series of difficult and uncomfortable moments. >> the public schools here are doing worse than they did. >> michigan schools need to do

better. there is no doubt about it. >> have you seen the really bad schools? maybe try to figure out what they're doing? >> i have not -- i have not -- i have not intentionally visited schools that are underperforming. >> maybe you should. >> maybe i should, yes. >> it's important to point out that even though this was in the president's budget, it never stood any realistic chance of actually happening, despite what the president said today, he's not the person that authorizes funding in the federal budget. that job is here in congress. they are the appropriators, and there are no republicans or democrats that you can find on capitol hill who said that this should happen. we should point out congressman mark pocan, he is the one who originally questioned betsy devos about the special olympics funding cut, he put out a statement tie "today" saying he is glad the administration changed course. and by the way, can someone pull betsy from under the bus? erin? >> thank you very much, ryan. and next, jeanne tries,

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