>> we all appreciate their time and their opinion. the news continues. i want to hand it over to chris for cuomo primetime. >> thank you, anderson. i am chris cuomo and welcome to "prime time". as the trump folks celebrate not being felons word that 300 plus pages of findings from mueller will soon be released should chill the mood. you don't have to be a criminal to be exposed as having done things that were wrong. and lied about the same. not a felony. will the american people think it's all fine when the full story comes out. a senate judiciary member fighting to take on president trump in 2020. speaking of people that weren't indicted but are not in the clear, jared kushner was called back by senators today. i wonder what they were curious about. our guest says she knows plenty of reasons why. the author of kushner ink is here. she has a new scoop.

the real crisis at the border. plus, we're going to dispose a deception that should matter every bit as much as anything that mueller was looking into. what do you say? let's get after it. >> president is jubilant tonight, whipping up a crowd of supporters moments ago in michigan. you can imagine what he did right off the top. >> the russia hoax is finally dead. the collusion delusion is over. total exoneration, complete vindication. >> just because it rhymes doesn't make it true. in fact, we know it isn't. he won't be prosecuted for helping the russians. that's it. four pages from his attorney general's summary of a report didn't clear this president or those around him from all wrong doing and material deceptions. that was about criminality. it's not the only standard of behavior.

the proof is in the profit. we now know he wrote up more than 300 pages of findings. if they're so in the clear, why are they dragging their feet and letting the facts come out? democrats are getting tired of asking that. >> we do not need your interpretation. show us the report and we can draw our own conclusions. we don't need you interpreting for us. it was condescending and it was arrogant and it wasn't the right thing to do. the president says the same. i want it all to come out. leaves it up to the a.g. we'll see what happens. with me now, another prominent democrat, welcome to primetime, senator. amy klobuchar. good luck in the race. i wish it to all of those seeking the nomination and i wish it to you as well. >> thank you. >> let's do a little lawyering

here. what is wrong with the trump teams and the gop's ma joir sy -- majority feeling. they did the probe. they found no criminality with respect to russian interference and any conspiracy with the president or anyone around him. that's it. none of us will ever vote with you and impeachment is not going to happen. move on. >> my count is that the house of representatives voted this will be public. as we go into the coming years, we want to make sure that our election and democracy are protected. there must be tons of stuff in that report you can tell on the four page letter of what russia did. we had to make decisions about back up paper balloting. audit elections. what kinds of things social media should do in terms of who they are and who is paying for

them so there's serious security issues but we can do two things at once. when the president right after the attorney general issues a four pages. when the justice department says they'll get r of the affordable care act. people looked up and they said no matter where we are on the mueller investigation the one thing we do know for sure is we don't want anyone to take our health care away and we don't want to be kicked off our insurance. for preexisting condition. we have to do two things at once. safeguard the democracy. read it and figure out what is in it and focus an on optimistic economic agenda for this country. >> you have time. if they go the route of fighting it in court, either it winds up the way it has before. we have two cases. at the supreme court level, you lose. or if it goes the other way, you have time.

there's a circumstance going on. i hear none of you talking about it. the president talked about it in the rally tonight but he talked about it in my opinion the wrong way. the brown menace is not the problem at the border. it's kids and family units, the people in charge are overwhelm and crying for help. i hear none of you talking about it. am i missing the reality? are you asleep at the switch? >> no, we would love to see comprehensive integration reform doing something so we have security at the border and we also work with countries in central america and change that policy in terms of making sure that those families are safe and health together. i think you have seen a focus on this and our problem is every time we try to move on a sensible policy the president uses it as a wedge. i think about immigration reform as an economic issue. 70 of the fortune 500 companies are headed by immigrants. 25% were born in other countries

and that bill we passed would have brought it down by $158 billion and would have given a path to citizenship to people. i think you have to see it as a comprehensive plan and that's what the american people wanted years ago and once you have a president in place that talks about it in terms of not just the border but economics, we're going to have the people with us. >> here's the problem. i hear you and we'll argue that insure infrastructure plan. but you have an emergency right now and as somebody that wants to be the leader of this country, they need help now. they literally, metaphorically have their back against a wall. they don't have the resources. they're doing case and release like they have never done it before. the stories i'm hearing we can't even believe them. we sent a reporter down there because i can't believe it. i was just there a few weeks ago.

isn't there something that can be done now to give the men and women keeping us safe, more? >> well, of course we just put aside over a billion dollars for security at the border but the problem is the president doesn't want to work with us on some sensible ideas. instead he wants to put it in the wall and instead of using it for projects and military projects and helping the personnel he just wants to b the wall and keep using it as a rally at his campaign rallies as a chant back and forth with supporters and i don't think it's a way to govern. i'm not surprised. i think it's horrible that not just the workers but the families involved in this have to have it on their backs. the way you solve it is putting someone -- i have a law enforcement background and i understand the challenges they face that's what they have been doing.

when you have needs of people and workers at the border. you meet those needs. you don't immediate them by building spending $8 approximately on a wall. >> i see opportunity for leadership. not because you're responsible for it obviously although you have a very interesting and diverse issue of your own you're trying to distinguish yourself from the field as you should and you put out a comprehensive infrastructure plan and you also go into how you think you can get it done. here's any question to you. nobody wins because they're for intrastructure i have lived through generations of cuomos fighting for infrastructure and never being rewarded for it. but here's the thing, senator, why do you lead with that and how do you get it done when you're facing a culture of

opposition day one if you get in? >> i lead with this because it's a bread and butter issue. it means jobs and getting ourselves out of traffic jams and getting our goods to market. of course as you know at my snow globe announcement i talked about health care and work force training and immigration reform and so many of the challenges. our place in the world that we face right now but i chose to announce my candidacy in front of the mississippi river, in the middle of the river on a beautiful summer day a mile from my house. 13 people died and the world was focused on our state that day. what did we do? i got the money to build that bridge in a little over a year but there's more bridges like that. there's subway systems and rural roads. ize -- iceland is completely outfitted.

it's not an old fashion plan. it's a way to move our country forward to export our goods and the schools in baltimore this past winter some of them didn't even have heat. so if you ask did people vote on it, they vote on the economy, they vote for the future of our families. they vote when they want to have a country they're proud of. this president has been promising infrastructure from the day he started running to the day he got elected to now. and hasn't delivered. >> a little bit of a nod to easy to say hard to do but it's a proper ambition. quick thing. very early. in the polling right now your relative position is not great. people are deciding who to back. what do you say to them about why to give kolbuchar a nod?

even though she's in the low single digits? >> there was a poll in iowa where i was in the top five, six, seven. there is a group of us that are in the same range and clearly registered with voters but it is early. let me give you why i want to be president. as i have said, i am tired of governing from chaos. i want to govern from opportunity. i'm from the heart land and i like to get things done. i have a very strong record in the united states senate for passing bills and working across the aisle and some people may think that's out of vogue to actually get things done for this country, i don't. and i'm also able to win in hard areas where maybe it's not comfortable to go and it can be uncomfortable but i have three times now won every congressional district in my state including the one formerly held by michelle bauchmann. we need someone that can bring people together, find common ground and get things done and go to a higher plane in our politics.

>> i did get to see myself grow old in 20 minutes. as the snow mounted. >> just wait until the end of this campaign and let's see how you feel about yourself then. as i offer all the candidates. >> thank you for that good advice. >> as i offer all the candidates, we'll chase you as appropriate but see this show as a forum when you can come on and be tested about what happens to the people as the campaign goes on. we make that offer to all of you and certainly you. senator klobuchar. >> thank you. >> be well. >> you saw the chairman of the senate intelligence committee right here on this program last night firing back at the republicans. adam schiff. since then he got this infusion of emotion and opportunity. he was face to face with his critics today and he looked them in the eye, many of them didn't look back and he left them have it. wait until you see this. and i'm telling you it's the most important story that no one is talking about. at least not enough.

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that was not what they needed to deal with what that he were worried about. and now here they are. the men and women that keep us safe have their backs up against that wall literally and figuratively. numbers of people coming. uniquely vulnerable with unique needs and a lack of federal resources to deal with it. it's a recipe for tragedy. court the people in charge. according to the people many charge. ed is in mcallen texas being exposed to who is coming across is there dire representations? do they match up with what you're seeing on the ground? >> yeah. i think the numbers that we're hearing from administration officials and the department of homeland security and customs and border protection, there's no question that they're seeing numbers at levels they have not experienced in quite some time.

and that processing centers are full and because of that, customs and border protection officials say they're having to start releasing families, migrant families. specifically probably sooner than they had wanted to. and that is definitely something we're seeing. >> in terms of what you're seeing, what the is the bad hombre factor versus vulnerable populations of frail children. of families. >> this is the question that i get asked repeatedly and i have spent 20 years traveling the southern border reporting from here and interviewing migrants in shelters. i have seen how this migrant patterns have evolved. the different types that you see. this is a unique time. you're seeing parents coming by themselves with children.

in many ways the word has gotten out that crossing the border with a child right now is the safer way to go. there are reasons for that. but this idea that they're criminal and rapists and drug dealers simply does not match up with anything i have seen for months and months of reporting down here on the border. today i was struck by how many women with their children have come and you ask them the question, why are you coming? and they immediately break down into tears. one woman came with her 17-year-old daughter because she was beaten by police officers. and a gang killed her own mother. a year ago. she felt like this was the only option she had to get away from that these are the stories that we hear over and over and over again. not to say there isn't a criminal from time to time caught up in this. but it's by far the minority.

compared to what we see over and over again. >> i know you have been working around the clock but that matters and that's what fuels you and fuels the team. thank you. i appreciate it. let me know what you find. we'll come back. thank you very much. something for you to keep in mind. when he says they are releasing them sooner than they want to, you know what he's referring to, remember zero tolerance? no more catch and release said this president. on his watch, they're doing it in ways they have never done it before. you have the other parts of the agencies releasing people. they don't have angle bracelets. they're giving them notices to appear that aren't even filled out. they're tbd. so the policy he put in place he has undermined by not giving them the resources they need. that's the reality. okay. now this president has mastered manipulating reality in more ways than one. he has absolved himself of wrong doing.

not just on the border. but in anything that has to do with the mueller probe. even before it's out. >> the democrats have to now decide whether they will continue defrauding the public with ridiculous [ bleep ]. >> i want to see that. why does he say it's ridiculous. 300 plus pages. the guidelines call for a summary that's confidential just to the ag. why did he put together 300 pages? what's in there? shouldn't you know? you paid for it. let's put it up to grate debate, next. ♪

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yes, i think it's corrupt. an evidence of collusion. i don't think that conduct, criminal or not is okay. and the day we do think that's okay is the day we look back and we say that is the day america lost it's way. >> here's the big problem, they're arguing over something other than criminality and we whether or not anybody helped with russian interference. don't know anything. we just found out today, this isn't some little thin thing that mueller sent over to the ag so it was easy to sum prize in four pages. it's more than 300 pages long. how can a president that hasn't seen the report, and doesn't know anything about what is in it claim to be completely vindicated? just because he's not going to be pursued for a felony? come on. that's the start of the great debate tonight. general grap and rick santorum. and jennifer granholm. i saw rick in the elevator or the hallway on the day this came out and we were going back and

forth on whether or not this was handled and there's room in there for criticism. i'm fine with that. both of you heard me go on much too long about i don't see the criminality. it doesn't end the mt. presiden. isn't the easy answer let the report come out? go to the judge and find out what grand jury system they're worried about having come out, redakt it but let it come out. so the intrigue ends. >> well, look, the first thing is is that everyone is for the report coming out, i don't know a republican that doesn't want to see the report come out but we want it to be handled properly and hearing them talk about how it's an outrage that it's taking this long. it's a huge report. a lot of information could be sensitive and it takes time for the legal analysis to make sure that it's done correctly. it will come out in plenty of time so this is another overblown reaction to mueller.

the second thing is that everybody for the last, what year and a half has been saying wait until the report comes out. wait until the report comes out. finally we get an analysis report and it doesn't say everything -- >> how do you know? >> i don't think attorney general barr is going to issue a summary like that if there's some smoking gun -- >> no, not smoking gun. you know how i feel about this. but for the audience, it's not about a smoking gun. it's not about whether or not he's simply a felon. it's about who did what that was wrong and what did he know about and why did they lie about it what does that instruct and how do we make ourselves safer going forward. >> keep speculating without any evidence. that's all this has been. the american public is tired of it. >> to bring you in, how am i speculating when we know as a matter of fact repeated by the

ag that he couldn't make a call on obstruction. that has to mean there was enough proof on each side of the ledger that he didn't know what to do. he gave it back to the ag. how is that speculation? >> i don't think it -- well, it's only speculation because we haven't seen the report. the words you described are just as you said. about we paid for it we should see it. that's so true. we don't anything that has some sort of grand jury testimony that would compromise an individual and sources and methods but as you say you can take it to the court or give it confidentially to congress. they look at confidential information all the time. >> that's a good one. it's leaked all the time. >> but they understand the importance of not revealing stuff that compromising the united states or individuals. >> unfortunately they don't. a lot of them.

>> i don't disagree. it's obvious to mistrust the congress is kind of an easy thing. you were saying, why are we speculating. >> every republican doesn't want this out. mitch mcconnell continues -- >> he's referring to the house vote. mcconnell is waiting on the president. >> mcconnell doesn't want to vote. mitch mcconnell wants to see the report just like everybody else in it's proper form. >> see, proper form winds up being a little speculative. but the democrats handed the republicans one. there was an excitement and about a set of expectations. i get my butt whooped on a nightly basis. by mad dow. she was out there. wait until the report comes out. some of that we don't know the answers to yet and she has a good team and they do good scrubbing but there were expectations set up by people on the left. there is no criminality. do you have to be careful about what you set as an expectation?

>> no, there is no doubt about that. but i encourage people to go watch that clip because he lists in it 18 specific pieces of evidence that are out there in the public that lend credence to the notion that there's some evidence, maybe not beyond a reasonable doubt but there's some evidence. maybe not 90%. of conclusion and unanswer pd questions. this i will agree with rick santorum on. everybody is tired of talking about russia. people want to talk about what's important to them which is health care. just before this you had a focus group talking about what they care about. the economy and health care. in this moment, where he's taking a victory lap, he has poured gasoline and lit himself on fire on health care. >> i don't know that. let's say he go the legal route and he wins. i don't see that happening. i have to be honest.

i have been doing my homework on it. for like 72 hours. the supreme court made some pretty close ended decisions but let's say he's right and they win. >> on health care now? >> yeah. and it's unconstitutional after all. he wins because that's all his party has been asking for is to get rid of it. they never had a replacement. they never work with the democrats on a replacement. you can shake your head but you read that they did not have something to replace the aca. >> subsequent to that they did and they do now and i have been working on it. >> they're telling him go slow. we're not ready. >> there's a plan that works take that money and get it out to the states -- >> and then what happens?

>> the legislation that we're working on requires them to spend 15% of that to actually pay for people with chronic illnesses. people with pre-existing conditions. >> it will lower rates and will take care of the most chronically ill. >> no. >> yeah it does. we have actually run the numbers. >> jennifer, you get the last word. i'll give it to you. you'll finish. >> i know the way they calculated. i have people in the business of scrubbing the numbers for the private sector. republicans say they know what they're doing. you're defining it in the most limited way you can that will certainly expose people that the companies will be able to exploit and not give policies to. there's not enough money put aside for it. you could have put more but it's not right. >> we're talking about the same amount of money currently being spent. >> final word to you.

>> well, that's the problem is the president's budget cuts $1.5 trillion out of medicaid and 800 million out of medicare and social security too and you cannot do it with that level of cuts. you are cutting people off of health care. you're cutting children on their parents off of health care. you're cutting people with pre-existing conditions off of health care. that's not what america is going to want. i'm telling you this is an issue we won on in 2018 and we'll win on in 2020. >> one final point and that's that the center for health and the economy which is a nonpartisan organization that scores things like the congressional budget office does in congress they said it would reduce premiums and costs by a third and would maintain the same coverage under the current obamacare. >> but not for the same number of people. >> this is a good debate to have. we'll see what the ideas are.

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>> the headline is a second interview for mr. jared kushner. before the senate intel committee. he's the main player, certainly one of the top two in the middle east. what do they want with him there? what did he say? what are they looking to learn. let's get after it with vicki ward. a new book focused on him and

his daughter ivanka and their the influence look at the administration. signed here. so i can sell it some day. let's see what you can tell me. security clearances. there's no issue. they don't like this guy. he's financially sophisticated. >> stop, stop. i'm rebutting. >> so the president said let him just have it. that's all there is to it. he did nothing wrong. what's your suspicion. >> so rex tillerson thought jared kushner went from being annoying to dangerous. >> personality conflict or more? >> no. far more. jared took the whole middle east portfolio from rex tillerson very early on and jared was the one pushing after the u.s. first official visit to there.

not a country we share democratic values with. it was all about cooperation in the gulf. saudis come around and make a mockery of it ten days later because they blockade qatar. they have had a long feud. it has an american air base. that's our security. james mattis, he knew nothing about any of this. they knew because jared kushner controlled the relationship behind this blockade that he had given the green light. from the white house. >> hold on, how do you know how they would know that and two, why would kushner want to do that? >> the theme of the book is that the middle east is a casino in which jared kushner runs around for his private financial interests. hear me out, what they didn't

know back then is that at the end of april, charles kushner, jared's father desperately needing investment into a money pit in new york, 666 fifth avenue meets with the qatari finance minister. i have spoken to someone in the meeting. they turned them down because it was a bad investment. jared kushner, and here's the breaking news chris, went before the saudi summit and he reamed the qataris. reamed them for not doing a private business deal. the next thing is they're made to feel very unwelcome at that summit. in saudi arabia. the day of the blockade have very strong sources saying the troops were on the border. >> because jared kushner wanted them to be. >> nine months later, a canadian

firm whose largest investor is qatar bails out 666 fifth avenue this building in a deal that makes no financial sense. nobody does. paid up front. you don't have to be in real estate to understand that that's not an economic deal. the qataris felt under threat from jared kushner. >> so the suggestion would be that they turned down the deal because they thought it was just about business. then the saudis show up on their doorstep and they realize it's about more than business. then they decide to give the money, which is almost like a blood money payment. this is a heavy set of allegations. do you believe you can back it up with proof? >> i do. >> how so? what kind of proof? >> well -- well, stand by, there is documentary proof. >> that's going to be key. >> yes. >> we only know what you can show. land of allegations. >> but i did call my sources in

the state department that confirmed the troops were on the border. >> why were they there? >> we also confirmed that there's been secret negotiations about sharing nuclear technology with saudi arabia. we know. look at what happened the house intel committee has asked for documentation to understand what an earth went on with jared's last visit to said rab. if you read the letter nobody knows what hotel he stayed at. let alone who he talked with. this is diplomacy in the dark. thinks should have a security clearance because he's got financial issues. >> his background is sophisticated in a way that they're not used to seeing with people in the public service. that they vet. that's why he had to keep revising it and that's why they were holding it up. it confused the process.

it was bureaucratic. it wasn't because of legitimate concerns. >> i report in my book that he pushed for james comey to be fired. why? because he left all the meetings with the russians and everybody else that is a felony and the press got wind of it and james comey was leading an investigation in between collusion with russia and the trump campaign. in public in front of white house colleagues that completely disagreed with him, he said to the president please fire james comey. the democrats don't like comey and the fbi doesn't like him and the base will love it. that was not reported. why was he so keen to see james comey go. >> you're saying what you saw is with mueller is about russia and you're saying that's not the part of the world he needs to worry about. >> no, that's a big distraction.

it's about the middle east and the threat that takes us back to the kushner building. it's about the troubled building that no american investor would touch with a 50 foot pole. the crucial thing to remember is that jared kushner entered this administration with an albatros around his neck. >> having to get funding for that. >> and it's a family investment. this is the business he is going to inherent and leave. there's no way he can wall himself off from it and that's why no security expert thought he should have security clearance and the president had to lie for him. >> did his wife know what he was doing to advance the fortunes of 666 fifth avenue. >> i show in my book very clearly that ivanka and jared's finances are tied together to a certain degree. they are peas in a pod. they have very like minded. they think they can message their way out of anything but you know what, chris, the senate

intelligence didn't interview him today because he was getting a white house employee of the month award. the house intelligence committee they're not asking him for documents because he's so sophisticated. there should be accountability. i hope it lies ahead. >> well, listen, as i said again, you're welcome on this show at any point. >> thank you. >> good luck with the book. >> thank you. >> listen. nothing ruins a trip like a cancelled flight. it turns this into something that's a growing concern for all of us. we're getting more and more worried about air travel for a good and bad reason. one minute were flight is cancelled. the next minute the entire carrier is gone. a story that lives up to the name of the airline. it's just a wow story, next. last years' ad campaign was a success for choicehotels.com badda book. badda boom. this year, we're taking it up a notch. so in this commercial we see two travelers

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>> i'm 70. he makes me look like this. he says he flew wow to paris last year. 300 bucks round trip. he said it was fantastic. he loved it. i don't know how you make money flying people to europe and back for $300 -- >> obviously you don. >> i feel bad for the folks but airline industry is a tough industry. in the back of my head i would think something may not be -- >> here's my concern about it as we learn more about how this went down and we will. people, money is tight. people want to travel and live their best life. they're seeking advantage. these airlines are a way to get it. but who is watching them? who is making sure they have that reserve. >> took the words out of my mouth. >> we put a lot of faith in these airlines to do the right

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xfinity, the future of awesome. no one in government should be surprised by the catastrophe happening on the border. the story that isn't getting talked about enough. he was told a wall, it will help us in places. they came to congress, they came and told the president we have a different set of needs to deal with what is coming. the president did what helped him politically. selling fear and a quick fix over caring for tiny faces like the ones we'll show you during this closing. the president knew months ago. what's the proof? here's the commissioner, noes ago. >> from the experience of our agents and officers on the ground it's a border security

and humanitarian crisis. now the majority crossing are family units and unaccompanied children. >> like what? asylum rules. accommodations, manpower, judges, medical and transfort. if you look at the declaration of emergency the president talks about these problems but all of it is geared toward getting the wall built. it's out of proportion. the wall versus all the other needs. so now the president has to find something else. he doubles down at a rally tonight even though he knows it's not the reality. listen. >> they want to set violent offenders free and directly they will be coming into your communities. we're not going to have it. we're not having it. we want our country to be a

sancti sanctuary for law abiding americans and not criminal aliens. >> he is vague. they want to release. no, this is your i.c.e. this is your cbp. they don't want to release anybody. they have to you put them in this position. wall, wall, wall. the wall is all. it never was. now they are forced, forced to round people up, many of them are coming and presenting themselves. they're not sneaking across like they're a bunch of rangers. they're coming with their kids and they're releasing them because they have nowhere to hold them and these people they see their mission as humanitarian first. they are afraid what will happen. show the kids and the places as much as possible during this. that's what matters, okay? the false emphasis on just the

physical barriers were a mistake and we're paying for it right now and it happened under this president's watch. catch and release is happening like never before out of need. not they. they is him. they're being let back into the country. not only that, they're being given blank notices of appearance. to be determined. why? they're overwhelmed. the president knew this was going to happen. now is this behavior by a president a crime? of course not. but is it okay? of course not. that's the point. he's not a felon. he didn't help the russians interfere. great. that doesn't mean he's not stro wrong. he's lying you to. their kids and families presenting themselves to ports of entry.

i'll close the border. mexico's the problem. your own secretary of homeland security said the mexicans are helping. they're great partners. you're not telling the truth. just because you beat a felony wrap doesn't mean that you can run rough shot. that's the reality of the border. we'll keep talking about it because it matters. i hope they're wrong about how pad it's going to be. you can't care once you have a body count. it's too late. >> what you just said applies to so many different issues when it comes to this president and administration. what is the truth? and what's not? people are confused about it. they don't know. the people at that rally cheering them out saying they want to release these criminals -- what lawmaker, what person in their right mind wants to release criminals? what lawmaker democrat or republican or otherwise wants th