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♪ ♪ we'll be doing for tv what fm did for radio. >> we like to call it smurfy. >> they have no problem saying how they feel. >> what are your dreams? >> to rule the world. >> michael jackson is the man of the '80s. >> music did it all beat and talk. it's rap music. >> my life is over so i might as well speak my mind. >> heavy metal, it glorifies sex and violence, it hates authority and adolescent boys love it. >> it's weird, beastly, presentation that was birthed in the pit of hill.
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unknown at this time, white male. >> the world is reacting with shock and grieve to the first rock and roll assassination. >> it was like one moment the '60s and '70s got murdered. >> his life has given more love than most men and women on the face of the earth. we're here to prove love is not dead even though john is. >> you start the decade with the death of a beatle. you don't know where you're going to go from that point culturally or musically. >> for a while it seemed there was nothing new on the horizon. announcing the latest achievement in home entertainment. the power of sight. the power of sound. mtv, music television. >> we are so excited about this new concept in new tv. we'll be doing for tv what fm did for radio. >> at the time, the world was saying, we don't think anybody's gonna watch videos over and
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over, but we knew we had something special. ♪ ♪ >> mtv made you feel like those artists were in the room. you had a personal concert all day. >> when you have the rotation of, say, maybe 100 different videos being rotated over and over on mtv, they do a great job of exposing new acts. ♪ ♪ >> britain was ahead the curve. they had a ton of videos in their inventory. that was what paved the way for this accidental second british invasion. >> if you look at some of the groups on the popular music charts in america today, you can't help asking, whereon earth did they come from? well, the answer is the same today as it was two decades ago, they come from britain. >> the music isn't anything like the famous music that came from there, the beatles.
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>> we're a new generation, a new wave. ♪ you are working as a waitress in a cocktail bar when i met you ♪ ♪ >> they were used to describe sleek dressy cool bands out of england. >> british artists all understood how to use visuals in a way that i think american artists didn't necessarily get that quickly. ♪ do you really want to hug me ♪ do you really want to -- >> do you want me is a good song, a song old people like and young people like, the proof is in the pudding. buy it and eat it. >> mtv actually met with duran duran's managers. we're looking for kind of like james bond videos on location,
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and their managers are the ones that went to the band members and said, look, we really need to up the ante with these clips. we need to give this channel something they've never seen before. ♪ ♪ >> there are some that have accused your videos of being soft porn. >> well, excuse me. >> we like to call them tastefully smirty. ♪ ♪ >> when i first met duran duran, they were saying they thought they looked like rock stars, so why not become rock stars? ♪ ♪ >> why do you think we're so popular over there?
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>> well, i think there is a tradition that goes back over the past 20 years from the days of the beatles and the rolling stones where british bands seemed to be better at it than americans. >> the police have sold 4 million albums in one year. rolling stone chose them as the best new band of the year. taking note of the swirling dreamy soaring quality of the sound. >> it was incredible to see them, and i couldn't believe what i was hearing out of three people. i was shocked. >> i once read you were called the pink employed of the '80s. what do you think of that? >> we're not. we're the cure of the '80s. ♪ ♪ >> the holy trinity of alternative british music is the cure. the pesh mode and the smiths. all three of them started out as
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these fringe bands that by the end of the '80s were selling out stadiums. ♪ ♪ >> what's new audit? computer programmers or musicians? >> i'd say, no. >> what are you, then? >> bank robbers. ♪ how does it feel, you treat me like you do ♪ ♪ when you played your -- >> in the u.k., disco did not suck, it never sucked. and bands like new order combined it with the new synthesizer sound. they gave us these incredible songs that got us out on the dance floor. ♪ ♪ >> i like what's happening to dance places now over the last year or two.
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it has done wonders for the sagging record industry. it has made overnight stars out of rock groups whose records had been gathering dust. >> this year the first since 1978, business is finally up. the reason is music videos. >> we had no idea that music videos would have that much of an impact on the musical culture. it changed the entire dynamic of what you had to do as far as promotion was concerned.
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you had to be a performance artist swl artist as well as a musician. ♪ ♪ >> the intelligent ones recognized that it's a marriage between t between the visual artist and the musician at this point. ♪ ♪ >> the man or the woman who finds the right combination will take it all. ♪ put on your red shoes and dance the blues ♪ ♪ >> when david and i decided we were going to work together, it was pretty clear to me that david wanted to make a commercial bum, like, you know, now i want to go make a pop record, but it was going to be his version of pop. >> my songs always tend to be impressionistic or have a surreal quality to them. on this album is the first time i've tried to adapt to a didactic type of approach.
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♪ ♪ >> artists in the '80s and david bowie, for that matter realized if you want to make it you have to be on mtv. >> there is one group not happy with mtv. many black artists who have been told their music doesn't fit the for matt. >> that's what's happening, we're being sat in the back of the bus television style. if pit man gets away with this, they're going to try it. >> what mtv does exclude is music that's not rock and roll. >> mtv came out with no consideration of how to infuse black music into their mix. >> i'm just floored by the fact there are so few black artists featured on it. why is that? >> we have to try and do what we think not only new york and los angeles will appreciate, but also some town in the midwest that will be scared to death by prince or a string of other
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black faces. >> interesting. >> okay, thank you very much. >> when are we going to see anybody of color on mtv? because you said music television. when are you going to start covering all genres of music? >> music has no color, and it shouldn't have color. i don't believe in that. what i do, i don't want it labelled black or white. i want it labelled music. >> 1983, motown has this big tv special, motown's 250th anniversary. at that time thriller is out, and thriller is doing well, but michael jackson couldn't get billy jean on mtv. >> when the rest of the world was going crazy and he can't get on mtv, michael jackson? come on.
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>> when he does that moon walk, he was sitting on the couch by the end of it, you were on the floor in front of the tv. you couldn't believe what you were seeing. >> i would say that the moon walk was really one of the first viral moments that affected rock history. the next week thriller started selling a million copies a week. >> i like michael jackson because he sings good, he's bad, he knows how to dance. >> he's sexy and so gorgeous. >> he's exciting. >> michael jackson is the man of the '80s. >> mtv starts to get pressure by cbs records which is michael jackson's label. >> rock and roll is what broke a lot of rolls. when you're successful you try to make your own rules. >> cbs said we will pull every other artist on mtv new don't play this. they had to be blackmailed into doing it.
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>> he was the artist that mtv really needed. they didn't know they needed him, but, boy, when we started to see those michael jackson videos, was just unbelievable. >> then there is a domino effect. suddenly you see prince videos from warner brothers do the same thing. ♪ ♪ >> prince wasn't just a materializing out of nowhere. where was he before this video was done? >> prince was a huge star on black radio stations. i mean, people -- he had a real underground cult following. he was a sexy, hot performer. ♪ ♪ >> prince loved the idea that he was taking his punk funk music and turning it onto a white audience and that wouldn't have happened if not for mtv. ♪ this is what it sounds like --
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>> when i was younger, i always said that one day i was going to play all kinds of music and not be judged for the color of my skin, but the quality of my work. >> prince had a great androgeny. he blurred the gender line. he sings, he writes, he plays. every time i see him, it's like, oh, really? okay, i quit. >> when he plays guitar, it's just part of his body in a way that i've never really seen before. and it's not contrived. it's just -- it's just happening. >> what was his music? was it r & b? you know, his music was just straight down the middle mainstream, grab you by the throat and balls pop. ♪ we go down to the river and
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into the river with dive ♪ ♪ >> at this point a lot of it is about being there, which is why we haven't done too much of the video thing. a lot of it is allowed too much distance. what our band is about is breaking down distance. >> bruce was all about credibility and intelligence and integrity. so how would he translate his music and his attitude toward the world to what seemed like this frivolous world of the music video? bruce is not going to be next to a winking model on a sail boat. ♪ ♪ >> he ends up doing essentially an m concert video starring a then unknown courtney cox. it's like this weird recreation of something that organically happens in a bruce springsteen concert.
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billy joel, rod stewart, all famous, all rich, and all men. rock and roll has been pretty much dominated by men until the last few years. >> hot, very hot. three albums in the past three years, all million sellers, and the latest album hit the top of the charts in just one month. her style is defiant, ruckus, tough, and very sexy. ♪ ♪ >> it appears to me the one on stage is what i would pick tire picture to be a woman who has a lot of strength and conviction, and can look good and still have brains. >> you would think that in the era of music becoming a visual form, more than ever, that it would all be about objective i
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indication. there were a lot of strong women on that video screen. >> meet the darlings of l.a.'s new music scene, the go-goes. unlike earlier girl groups, they write their own songs and play their own instruments. ♪ ♪ >> that was as punk rock as it got for me, to see girls up there, you know, not just singing back up o not just standing in some cool outfit in front of a band. like, they were the band. ♪ ♪ >> while the go go's managed to look like they're having fun, they are to be taken seriously. they're the first female group to have a number one album and
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the top of the list of female rock stars in the industry as strong as ever. ♪ ♪ >> i thought her voice was extraordinary. and cindy was a very good visual content creator. i mean, those videos were so colorful and fun. >> this being march 31st, it's also a monday. some of you might consider it a manic monday. you'd be interesting to know there is a hit song of the same name. we are joined by the architects of that song. they are the bangles. you guys are very hot. ♪ ♪ >> when the bangles came out, everyone was like, oh, it's another go go's. the bangles were like, huh-uh, we're not the new go go's, we're the new beatles. >> a lot of people call that a '60s sound. do you think so? >> that's our main influence.
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we don't go in and consciously say, let's make this a springfield song. that seems to be the way the songs end sounding. ♪ just another manic monday, wish it were sunday ♪ ♪ >> there was always a certain amount of people who will never take women as a group seriously. >> it's run by a very chauvinistic industry. >> we concentrate on the music. we don't worry about those things. we keep writing songs. >> there was an attitude that, they're okay for chicks. they can play okay for girls. we didn't understand why our gender mattered. or why it defined us. >> people magazine this week says it will take an act of congress to keep this woman from becoming a megastar. whitney houston. ♪ ♪ >> whether she was doing a dance song or she was doing a
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ballad -- ♪ ♪ ♪ >> it kind of stopped you in your tracks because you couldn't believe that one woman could be blessed with that much, with the looks and the talent. >> this lady started out as a dancer, went do new york, went to paris, worked with bands, came back as a single. and is she hot. this is madonna. >> if you saw madonna, then she looked just like the girls who hung out at a club called the fun house. all the girls there had the mesh thing and they had the boots. it was kind of a mix of new wave punk with this other dance sensibility. ♪ ♪ >> i think madonna was able to use that core of dance music and use the style of the streets that were going on, and evolve that into a pop career. >> we are a couple of weeks into the new year.
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what do you hope will happen, not only in 1984, but for the rest of your professional life? what are your dreams? what's left? >> to rule the world. ♪ ♪ >> all of a sudden there were girls around that had the gloves with the fingers cut out of it and the hair wrapped up in the net and wearing the short skirts. there were like hundreds of thousands of jewish girls around the country wearing crucifixiones because of madonna. >> what do you like about it? >> i like the way she -- she acts like a different attitude that no one else has. >> she dresses how she wants, acts how she wants, singsz how she wants. she does what she wants. >> i think her appeal is that she is feminine, she is herself, she is sexual, but she's strong. she's an individual woman. >> madonna understood the mtv phenomenon. she understood the vibe and the look and the sound. it all came together with her.
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>> everyone on the rest, they keep giving you surprises. if you give them one glance, what's going to make them look again? ♪ ♪ >> when madonna started singing, like a virgin, and started rolling around on the ground, people thought it was a career-ending moment for her. >> in this wedding dress, rolling around on the floor, it kind of stopped everybody in their tracks and thinking, what is she doing and why is she doing it? literally by the next morning she's the biggest star in the world. >> madonna had no doubt she was like, this is happening. get out of the way.
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kind of thing. >> i'm coming out of a gold mold and has a welding iron, and she's this, like, amazon welder woman or something. >> we felt lost in the theater of it. it got to the point where the videos were more important than the songs. >> it did feel like i can't steer the ship any more. where is it going, you know? where are we headed? >> i think heavy metal is the true rock and roll of the '80s, and rock and roll was basically music made by people who were thinking with their crotches. >> heavy metal, it is not something new in physics, it is rock and roll. loud, rude, it glorifies sex and violence, it hates authority, and adolescent boys love it. >> this is it, this is the hot stuff. now turn it off for a second so we can talk. ♪ ♪
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>> you turn on your television set and you see this weird beastly presentation that was birthed in the pit of hill. >> where do they get this information from that i am satan? do i have a picture of horns? i don't speak like that. >> critics say there is something seriously wrong with metal music, outrageous by design, that it may have contributed to a number of teenage suicides. >> has rock and roll finally gone too far? a growing number of people think so. today they took their case to a u.s. senate hearing. their complaint? that rock lyrics and videos are crossing the line into trash and smut. >> we are asking the recording industry to assist parents who are concerned by placing a warning label on music products
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inappropriate for younger children due to explicit sexual or violent lyrics. >> in the '80s, these artists who were pushing boundaries in different ways were bringing those messages and images into our homes, and that provided a political opportunity to push back against it. >> we can say they're senators wives and they're messing around in washington. but they obviously have some real concerns. there is a lot that they do that i applaud because they are taking responsibility as citizens. >> i brought along two videos, which i believe are representative of the kind of presentation which have caused the furor. ♪ ♪ >> who is gonna decide what's a sexual content of a lyric? who is going to decide what is
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obscene? same house wives who are spearheading the movement? >> i can tell you it's outrageous filth. if i could find some way to constitutionally do away with it, i would. >> fans felt, i'm capable of making my own decisions about the music i want to listen to. i don't need tipper gore deciding this is too obscene for me. >> the next witness will be mr. frank zappa. >> you're establishing a rating system voluntary or otherwise opens the door to an endless parade of quality control programs based on certain things christians don't like. >> i think you should leave it up to the parents because not all parents want to keep their children iguodala nornlt. >> you and i are the ones ignorant and educated. >> the women didn't get the ratings system they wanted but they did get an imprinting on albums, cassettes and videos warning they contain explicit lyrics. >> good rock and roll breaks the
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rules. that's the way it is, it's the way it always has been. elvis presley was not good for the children either. >> good morning, everybody. i'm very pleased to announce to live aid, without a doubt, will be the largest pop concert ever held. >> live aid was the brain child of bob and mid, and the two of them were looking to raise as much money as possible for the famine victims in ethiopia. >> when tomorrow's 17-hour fund-raising concert starts, sellout crowds will be joined by a television audience of perhaps 1 billion people around the world. ♪ ♪ >> watching live 8 on tv was my version of woodstock. i watched every second of it.
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♪ ♪ ♪ >> the great thing about live aid, it showed that musicians for me seemed to be the mostal tr aa ltr uistic people in the world. >> the group has never had a problem saying how they feel. >> when u2 play live aid, things changed. rock and roll was getting serious. music could change the world. bono could change the world. ♪ ♪ >> u2, formed ten years ago when its members were still school boys, is now arguably the
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hottest rock and roll band in the world. their last album, the joshua tree, has so far sold more than 13 million copies worldwide. >> u2 somehow in the video age were still developing and becoming a great band and maintaining that kind of connection with people, and not getting the message lost in the medium. >> we spent the last ten years finding out how to be u2 and spent the next ten years seeing what u2 can do.
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with the local dee jay crew, i watched it transition from the block parties to slowly but surely hip-hop taking over. >> the music underneath rapping is called scratching and it's a process of using two turntables and a mixer making new sounds owl of already existing albums. >> the thing that gave life to music for me in the '80s washington wizards hip-hop because the took the sounds of the '60s and '70s to the forefront. ♪ ♪ >> the message was the first hip-hop song that wasn't just a party song. it was talking about what was going on. it was talking about urban decay. it was talking about drugs, crime, prison, all of these things that were hitting these communities really hard. ♪ ♪ >> when a message hit, man, it was like, okay, put that down, what did he just say?
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pull the record back. play that again. ♪ ♪ >> everyone knew the game had changed. and it really opened the floodgates for the next generation of rappers. ♪ ♪ >> when run dmc came out, they were taking rock and roll music and putting it together with hip-hop, and making something brand-new out of it. ♪ ♪ >> run dmc kind of led zepplinized hip-hop because it was fit for an arena, knocking the scoreboard down. ♪ ♪ >> aerosmith had fallen off the map at that point. it brought them to the fore, and breaks run dmc because now you get white kids listening to
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hip-hop. >> run dmc's latest album entitled raising hill has sold more than a million copies in just 13 weeks. a first for a rap record. >> the album is called licensed to l. that's a stupid name for -- ♪ ♪ >> hip-hop was our baby. this was our culture. this was our music. we created it, and here came the beasty boys and we were afraid we were going to lose it. ♪ ♪ >> then when we started listening to their music, they really were funky, and they could really get busy. we were like, okay, all right. ♪ ♪ >> beasty boys come out, what people thought would be a pop hip-hop group. it was straight hip-hop.
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beastie boys was dope, you know what i mean? ♪ ♪ >> it spread like wildfire and introduced a lot of people to hip-hop culture. >> can you give us some definitions of the lls? >> ll stands for ladies, love, ledge end, lean lovers of ladies, looking for a little, listen, learn, you'll like it, a lot of ls. >> the guys only talk about yourself. you're a lover, how women love them to death, how good they can throw down, how they can dance, how bad they are, nobody bet not mess with me, all that foolishness. if they would address the issues, the issues being poverty, the issues being not having political power, you see what i'm saying? all of these issues they should be addressing this with their energy. >> rock m is the guy at mc.
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he single handedly changed the phrasing of rap music and hip-hop. he came to the world like a poet. ♪ ♪ >> i learned different rhythms listening to jazz. i learned different rhythms, so i kind of incorporated that with my rhyme style, not just the regular, tuum, tuum, tuum, i was in between, tuum, ta-tuum-tuum. >> what i'm trying do is set examples for the little kids, you know what i'm saying? got to teach the babies, lead them in the right path. >> the summer of 1987, rebel without a pause comes out. it was a call to arms. it was the sound of anger, it was the sound of something boiling under. public enemy literally said we want to be music's worst nightmare. >> public enemy's extreme politics had almost no air play even on black stations. it's rap for a reason. they call it a mind revolution.
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♪ ♪ >> rebel without a cause was heavily influenced by rakim and heavily influenced by what was going on. it was really a desperate call to have us being heard. >> you talk about black all the time to a multi-racial audience. shouldn't you be thinking about who are the people i've got out here, haven't you got a responsibility to them? >> i have a responsibility to my people and my culture because my people and my culture have been brutalized and ignored for years. ♪ ♪ >> ice-t is the first west coast gangster rap, reality rap dude. 6:00 in the morning police at my door. ice-t did it way before mw did it. ♪ ♪
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koleidascope. you open it up and it's like a little bit of everything. it was a time when everybody was getting involved and everybody was expressing themselves, loudly. >> we are having the best time ever. ♪ ♪ >> every audience seems to get fed. we fed the pop audience, but where's the rock and roll? ♪ ♪ >> bon jovi comes in with a huge record. deaf leopard, fantastic record. and that begins to bring that kind of music back. >> at the end of the '80s,
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everybody came to the same conclusion simultaneously, something new needs to happen here and it's got to be real sounding, more garage. less produced. >> this music that was bubbling out of places like portland and seattle, and bands like nirvana that weren't looking to fit into what was being played on mtv or what was being played on radio. eventually radio and mtv came to them. >> the seeds of what will happen in the next decade are already all there by the end of the '80s. college rock like r.e.m. was something new entirely. ♪ ♪ >> the way that peter played
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guitar and they sang, the voice was incredible but you couldn't quite figure out what he was saying made it more alluring and more mysterious. you could get why that band would become huge. >> it wasn't new wave. it wasn't a new romantic. they started calling it alternative music. ♪ ♪ >> you know, this is the thing about the '80s. everyone thinks it's about crazy haircuts, lots of makeup, insane clothes, and it was. but the thing about this music that lasts is that their songs were so good. you can go back and listen to those records from the engineering to the musicianship to the writing and to the
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performance of it. it surpasses most music. >> everybody had a story and they wanted to tell it. the artists that were coming through the tv and into your lives. >> i'll say that the music of the '80s is more effective than what came to us in the '60s simply because all of us were included this time. no decade was more effective in dance music, in politics, in different genres than the '80s. there will never ever be another decade like it, ever. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪
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