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entirely unfactual about his father being born in germany, which he wasn't. but he said republican should be, quote, more paranoid about vote counts. and i'm quoting again, i don't like the way the votes are being tallied. i don't like it, and you don't like it either. you just don't want to say it because you're afraid of the press. the president offered no specifics. he also claimed that the sound from wind farms maybe causes cancer. you may not be surprised to learn there's no sound science about that wind claim. >> they say, anderson. >> they, i know. yes. >> very convenient. >> they may say i'm a dreamer, chris, but i'm not the only one. >> you're not the only one. i am chris cuomo. welcome to "prime time." who is the chinese lady at mar-a-lago, and did you see how close she got to our president? is it relevant she's a chinese national? the suspect was apparently jacked with devices right out of
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a bond movie. but the question for us is did china really spend a spy to the president's house, and what happened to his bold claim of let's get it out there? we're going to have a bold great debate. and we showed you what's happening at the border. the president's best idea is still to shut it counsel to help fix the system. the pros on the border can't justify that notion. the white house is scrambling. will this party stand up? the call continues for congress to stop waiting on this president and do its damn job. why haven't left and right done anything reasonable to address the real emergency on the border? we're going to demand answers from another lawmaker. what are they waiting for? what do you say? let's get after it. a thumb drive with malicious software. we know it as malware.
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that's what prosecutors say a chinese national had on her when the secret service arrested her this weekend for illegal entry at mar-a-lago. of course the president's resort in palm beach. now, did you read this thing here? i want you to read this stuff for yourself. you have to. it's only a few pages. it's the affidavit from the secret service agent that was there. it's like something out of a spy movie but it's 100% real. the woman is now charged with making a false statement. the president was not there for any of this, but it raises very serious concerns. did president xi over in china send a spy to our president's playground? let's bring in intelligence guru mike rogers.
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couldn't ask for a better guest tonight. could you back this aside that this lady was a spy? >> honestly you can't right up front. there would be a series of things you'd have to get through to make that determination. listen, the chinese in the past have run some really poor espionage operations. they're like drunken fraternity brothers trying to break into your living room to get the last beer. they've gotten better over time. in the last few years they've actually gotten good about recruiting assets that can get in and steal information. this looked really sloppy to me. the fact if you were trained nld never deviate from what your story was at the security checkpoint. the malware, i'd have to know what does it do? what was its intention? was it just to get in and disrupt, meaning if i plugged it into the a device anywhere in the system in the hotel it would
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cause them problems, or was it spy wear, where it was disciped to sit and wait and collect information and get it back. and then what was on the other devices? i guarantee you if there was malware deliberately planted on that thumb drive there is likely malware or spy wear on those other devices. >> several phones, a laptop, a remote access hard drive, and this thumb drive you're talking about with the malware. so what's your take? what do you think this woman is going to turn out to be? >> if i had to guess today it's someone who thought they might be currying favor back in china, thought they had some way into mar-a-lago, and clearly they did at least getting through the first gate and was trying to curry some favor. and so that malware could have been anything as simple as when i connected on the device at the hoteal, remember the business center, other things that's one way you can breach the security in the hotel system, and maybe that's what they were trying to do. it just doesn't feel like a spy
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effort to me given how sloppy the cover story was. >> right. >> you know, her story changed, she didn't seem trained. she kind of fessed up halfway through she wasn't supposed to be there. that is not a typical spy operation. >> sure is bizarre. and i have to tell you i want people to read this criminal complaint because i have to tell you if it wasn't for -- here's my take. if it weren't for the receptionist, this lady may have gotten where she wanted to go inside of mar-a-lago. the secret service people who interviewed her, they're like we can't read this in chinese. these look like chinese passports, let's get her into mar-a-lago. she's here to swim. she doesn't have any swim clothes on her, you know. and then the receptionist starts going at her about what event, why are you here? and the events don't check out, she then goes back to the secret service and they wind up pulling the string on her. thank god for the receptionist.
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>> and again this could have been one of those probing operations as well, how could we get in with a simple story and what could the story be? remember it doesn't have to be the golden egg kind of operation where you go and steal the crown jewels in the first effort. some of these things are processed over time, and this could have been one of those operations. it may have shocked her how far she got into the operations, where they could just collect enough information, say this is what i used at the front gate, this is what i used at the second gate and go to bed well on her way. and busted by had receptionist at mar-a-lago. so again, it seems odd to me because it was really poorly planned, but it doesn't mean they couldn't have made the effort. and you won't really know i will you go through all those electronic devices, do a little research back there with our embassy and their folks to see what happened. >> let me ask you something else
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about planning and whether it's working organize not. the democrats are worried they're not going to get disclosure. what do you think of the political play of the subpoena ini know they're legal documents. in latin they mean under penalty, you have to respond. but this is political play. do you think it's the right play, and what do you make of the desire for disclosure? >> listen, i think disclosure is fine. there is a process. i think they should have waited for the process to take hold. the attorney general is going to go through and do the redaction. >> they say no redaction. we look at this stuff all the time, mike. and mike rogers as you guys should know was in congress for a long time. we look at this stuff for a long time, we take an oath, we won't reveal the secret. >> i hear you, but there are people in that report third party noninvolved. i think they have a right to be protected. i'm an old-fashioned guy. i don't care if you're republican or democrat, the law shouldn't club you because you
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got caught in the cross hairs. we should never let our government on either side do that. this has happened lot in this process from both sides. i think that's terrible. so we ought to protect the things we know are deserved of protection. there is going to be classified information. remember it was a counter intelligence investigation. some of that will be redacted for sources and methods protection. that's the appropriate thing. keeping people out of this fire storm -- i almost said something else storm -- is probable in their best street. if they had nothing to do that they were just interviewed. as a former fbi guy i go and talk to your neighbor and say tell me about chris cuomo, and they oh, my gosh, he's terrible, he does whatever, so i write that down. it doesn't mean it's true. so when we do a further investigation you determine that wasn't true, there's no merit to it. and that information gets in these files, and so somebody takes the 302, the document that the fbi agent does and says, oh,
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look, this guy is terrible guy because of this. you could ruin the guy's life. >> when it's just an allegation. >> an allegation that was unproven. >> but you know what happens on the flip side, mike. if the stuff doesn't come out then it seems you're worried about it. >> i think the report should go to congress at some point, i do. underlying materials i'm a little bit -- honestly i don't know if sitting right here that's the right decision. it depends on what the redaction looks like. and if they can justify it i think the attorney general should come up and justify the redactions. i think in classified settings that would be appropriate to get beyond the redactions. that's all fine to me. but i just think we have to be careful. the whole notion here -- people are in a frenzy, and that's when real honest good citizens get hurt in that stampede. and again, the law is designed -- lady liberty is blindfolded for a reason to protect people from that
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stampede. and i just think we ought to be cautious here. and the thing with the democrats doing it now, it makes it look like they're trying to pick a fight and find -- if they would have gone through the process and said, you know what, this is not acceptable -- >> you're right. but some of them cannot believe that it wasn't more damning, what came out from mueller at least in the summary. the a.g. is now saying this is an initial set of conclusion. but some of them don't believe it. and the others believe well if you're so confident about it, let it come out. i get your transparency, and you're a journalist, we'll always want more. boy, i got lucky having you tonight with what happened at mar-a-lago. i've never heard of that before.
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threats and lies. you know what that could be, a title for the trauma if someone ever writes the movie about this presidency. but it does seem that our president seems to revel in misleading you. and we in the media, let's be honest, it's hard for us to escape the cycle. and yet no matter how common it gets, no matter how frustrating we cannot let truth abuse go. what the president says about the border, about his own father, the facts matter and he can't keep them straight. and we have the one man who has made it his job to do nothing but stay on top of what the president says and when it isn't true to the point of deception. plus he told you, our president, i want the mueller report to come out, i'm completely exonerated. now he's telling you something else. why? let's debate what mike and i were talking ability. we'll have people come in and here and make the case for what you should see. places in america.e windit and home to three bp wind farms.
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only from scotts. our backyard is back. this is a scotts yard. once again lots to check from the president as he sat down with the nato secretary-general. everything from the asylum seekers at the border to where his father was born. what is fact, what is fiction. here to set us straight on all these claims the washington bureau chief at the toronto star, daniel dale. in all these things, who's around when the president's doing this. it's not just locker room talk. he's like standsing neing next putin, next to the nato secretary-general when he says these outlandish claims. so let's go through a few. the border. the president had started with the idea of closing the border
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as an economic boost to the united states. now he's saying something different. do we have it to listen to? here it is. >> sure it's going to have a negative impact on the economy, with the deficit we've had with mexico and have had for many years, closing the border will be a profit making opration. >> which is it my brother. is it profit making or is it bad for the economy? >> it's obviously bad for the economy. the claim this would be profit making because the u.s. has a trade deficit with mexico is simply nonsensical. you know, a trade deficit is not equivalent to a loss. a trade surplus is not equivalent to a profit. >> let's go to asylum hearings. for the 23rd time the president falsely claimed nobody comes back for an immigration hearing. it's only like 1% to 2%. listen to this. >> so what they've done over the years they release them into the
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united states and they say come back in four years for a trial and nobody comes back. i guess 1% to 2% on average come back, and nobody can understand why they come back. they're the only ones that come back. >> look, everybody should know this nonsense. the backlog of cases, it's like 800,000 plus cases are already there, that is something that's a real impediment for people. but in terms of the idea who comes back. >> well, you don't have to listen to me. the data has that in 2017 81% of asylum seekers showed up. it's not even close to 1% frch for the entire population having immigration hearings it was 72%. even the anti-immigration, the conservative center for immigration studies says about two thirds of people have come back.
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again, you should make the argument it could be more but oats not even close to 1% 2%. >> about puerto rico, that country is what was said by one of the president's team. here it is. >> they have not come to $91 billion with all we've done in that country. they've had a systematic mismanagement of the goods we've sent to them. >> just to make it clear to all the folks at home. >> puerto rico is part of the united states. it has been since 1988. puerto ricans are american citizens. >> now, what do you see here as why the president persistently tries to make puerto rico an other? >> it's hard to get into his mind. we know that he has personal animus to many of the politicians there. we know that he was aggrieved that he's been accused of
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mishandling the response to hurricane maria. we also know he's gone after women of color and people of color on many occasions in a way that he hasn't always other people. it's hard to know which of those it is in this particular case. >> well, someone he should know is his fathers. listen to what the president said about his father. >> my father is german, right, was german and born in a very wonderful place in germany, so i have a great feeling for germany. my father's from germany. both of my parents are from the eu. both of my parents were born in eu sectors, okay? >> where was the father of the president born? >> he was born in new york city. his dad was from germany, but he was from new york city, and we have the birth certificate for any trump fans who demand birth certificates.
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we have birth certificates of the president's father who was born in new york. >> we have vote tallies, and i think this one is really good example of what the president does when it comes to fact and fiction. >> we're going to watch those vote tallies. you know i keep hearing about the election and the various counting measures that they have. there were a lot of close elections that were -- they seemed to every single one of them, went democrat. it was close. they say the -- there's something going on -- hey, you got to be a little bit more paranoid than you are, but we have to be a little bit careful. because i don't like the way the votes are being tallied. >> i had to create a third category for this. this goes onto the what, you know, category of this is all full alex jones. this is full alex jones. he went on this. how do you even find a path through that? >> bell, you just say there's no
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evidence of deceitful fraudulent counting of votes. the president has made these allegations since before his election. then evfr he won he said 3 million people voted illegally in california. that didn't happen. and now he's insinuating fraud in the mid-term tabulation. this is simply a figment of the president's imagination. i think he uses it as an excuse why his party didn't do better in the mid-terms. >> straight up alex jones. i'll tell you, you picked the right job. daniel dale, always a pleasure and thank you. >> thank you. all right, now another thing in context. the truth matters. let it come out. let the people see it. i was totally exonerated. remember that? came from our president. now less than two weeks after that -- well, i don't know about full disclosure. i think giving it to congress is ridiculous.
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nadler, anything we give them will never be enough. it's hypocrisy and a disgrace. >> what is this? is this like i'll testify under oath, i can't wait. sounds strong but then hide. here's what i don't get in a matter of debate, what better closure is there than the truth coming out? that's the start of our great debate. steve, why the change? >> well, look, i don't know that he changed, by the way. to me this isn't binary. correct, chris. he's saying let's be as transparent as possible whereby but at the same time he can also say but shifty schiff will never say it's enough. i will still say i want as much revealed as can possibly be reveer revealed because the facts are exculpatory to the president. what they cared about was this false accusation, this insidious
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smear for the last two years that our president was a traitor. we know now conclusively that he was not a traitor, that he did not conspire, that he was not beholden to a hostile foreign power. that's what matters and that's the conclusion that's going to be taken away be any reasonable person not obsessed with resisting this president. >> by the way, i give you a point for using good language there. you didn't say there's no proof of collusion. we've talked how collusion is a behavior not a crime. not a traitor, no crime of conspiracy. good for you. because when you drift into the waters of collusion you start creating the need to see more because then we have to understand the behavior, not just the criminality. however, the president did say the notion of letting it come out now is ridiculous. well, that's not the same as saying let it all come out. how do you take it? >> i think this president has a pattern and practice of saying one thing and doing something
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defer. not in a matter of weeks, chris, but sometimes tha matter of minutes. it's interesting for me to hear steve saying he's being trance parents. to me this is the most inauthentic least transparent administration in history. i think the other thing we would really have to consider. i know we talked about collusion, but there also hasn't been enough wading into the waters of whether there was obstruction and whether that existed. so often your party likes to tow the line of fiscal conservatism and the price of responsibility and all of this greatness. but when it comes time to talk about who pays for these things, all of a sudden we get amnesia, there's a double standard that exists. >> angela, wrong. i don't disagree with you. with just said i want as much as can legally, practically, there are national security concerns perhaps -- but as much as can be
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revealed, i want it revealed. you know what else i want to be transparent about? the fisa warrants under president obama and the doj and the -- >> time out. >> no, not time out. i'm talking. >> hold on, hold on. >> you don't get to go down a road -- >> guys, i'll end it. not on this show. this is disagreement with d decency. answer that, do you want the same disclosure on fisa? >> i want to make my own point, chris. no, i want -- >> one step at a time. >> on the entirety the way the obama doj and fbi was used -- the mechanisms of the united states were used as a political weapon to attack -- >> what i'm saying is it's --
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let her answer it. so would you we in favor of the fisa documents coming out as well? >> what i'm in favor of right now is what the subject of this great debate is, and that is the mueller report. and that's what is amazing to me. it always goes back to president obama. it always goes back to anything except the president of the united states. right now, his responsibility. all of the fact there were so many criminals around him, so many people committing crimes and yet and still he must be innocent somehow, he must be ethical somehow. we're forgetting about the whistleblowers that exist with the security clearances. so we can talk about obalm. i have never been the type of person who will absolutely be a yes person no matter what on president obama. but i resent the fact we're coming onto a program to talk about one issue that's dealing with this specific report and somehow we're back into the obama administration -- i'm not
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done this time. >> i agree with you. >> i'm not done this time. you had a fit to go down the road on fisa. my point is very simple. and that is it's not adam schiff. and by the way, his name is congressman because you called him shifty schiff at the beginning of this. congressman schiff is saying all of these things you may agree with, i don't. and i think history will be kind to the members of congress and american people that stand up and say this is nonsense and we've got to do something about it. >> fisa, you're guaranteed to have confidential information, classified information that's going to become relevant and that may come out. so if you know that as a certainty going into it, i don't think that's a fair caveat because you're asking for classified information to come out that you believe would be in your interest, so you should want all of the classified information to come out. >> no, in both cases i'm saying
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as much can be safely meaning regarding the national security of the united states, as much as can be released in both cases i want sunlight and transparency on the mueller report and i want it on the obama, doj, fbi and fisa. i think that the sunlight will be disinfecting. and i think also what's important is i don't frankly care about the details of the mueller report or if they're embarrassing slightly to the president. what matters is the macro conclusion. for two years and -- >> that's a criminal threshold. >> correct. and we have determined that was demonstrably false. >> we need to know what he looked at and why, and on obstruction he did something that none of us saw coming. a guy in the business of making tough calls wouldn't make the
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tough call because there was so much proof on both sides. now you have to look at it because the threshold for presidential behavior being criminality. so we need to know what was in there that made mueller, the guy who was duty bound to make a call, feel that he couldn't make a call. >> but as a prosecutor he does not make a call of exoneration. prosecutors charge or don't charge. they don't have a third option. >> i totally agree -- >> it was a cheap shot for him to even include it in the report -- >> that's why you've got to figure out, why did barr include it? >> barr did to cover his rear end because he didn't want to look like he was hiding it because mueller said it. >> the report is not released and the one thing that i think is important -- >> and i want it it released. >> the one thing i think is
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important is the standard you kept going to is whatever is legal, whatever we can possibly do, that's still a subjective standard. so much of what is considered classified in this country is still subjective. and the president still has the opportunity to claim executive privilege. that also, sir would be legal. so you might have ran circles around somebody, but it wasn't me tonight. >> by the way, the president also had the opportunity to fire mueller and he didn't. so, yes the president could have stopped this but the point is he didn't. he allowed the truth to be known. and the truth is -- >> if he wanted the truth to be known he would have gone under oath and done it on tape just like bill clinton did. if you want oto go look at a president's past -- he was subpoenaed. >> president trump was never subpoenaed. >> that's true. but he started this by saying i want to go under oath, i want to talk to him, i have nothing to
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the president says he has a solution to what's happening on the border, which is to close the border. here's his suggestion to you the american people. >> if we don't make a deal with congress the border's going to be closed. 100%. and it can be changed in 45 minutes if they want to change it. let's see what they do. >> all right, no mention of the reality of what's happening on the border. and i think there's a reason for that. and also no real reflection of what he's being told by the men and women around him who understand the realities of the border and the way the president
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arguably does not. however, he does have his supporters on this. congressman lance goodin, republican from texas, welcome to primetime, sir. so milwaukee the case, why is closing the border a good answer? >> you know, closing the border is not something anyone's excited about. the president has said several months ago we need a wall. congress didn't give him one,ee shutdown the government. they still didn't give him one and he said i'm going to do it myself, declare an emergency and he's doing that. countries south of mexico have done nothing to police their borders and we've got caravans of folks coming into the country, drugs, out of control immigration policy and the president is simply saying we've got to shutdown the border if no one is doing anything else. and i i think he knows this will
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be painful, and it's a sad state of affairs for our country. >> well, let's start with the premise the president knows it would be bad. he said it would be a boost to the u.s. economy. was he lying or does he think it would be imminent? >> certainly the california avocado industry would be boosted. i've heard a lot about avocados this week. but i think the president believes this nation is at a crossroad and we've got to do something. and the president isn't just making a statement to congress when he says i'm going to shut the border down. he's making a statement on behalf of this country to other nations that your policies of the past are not working and we're prepared to do something even if it's painful today. over the long-term it's going to be worth it. >> why is his dhs secretary who's certainly loyal to him, right, she went out of her way to say mexico has been a good partner, for the amount of resources they have, for what
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they're under in terms of their own government duress, that they have been helpful. that contradicts the president. who's right? >> the people that run the administration under the president i think they also leave those big statements to the president. they say if the president wants to go out on a limb and shutdown the border then let's let him make that decision, and he's prepared to take the bullet for the american people. he doesn't mind the bad press. he doesn't mind whether it's this shoal or any other saying how ignorant he is. that's a belief the media shares. but he's willing to do what's right -- >> i think you just gave us the key, congressman. this sounds good to the base. sounds like strength. harshness and strength sells with a population of your state
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and many states around this country. so the president can say things that may not be accurate -- >> for these other countries who are saying come on up through our country, we'll let you through america. the last guest for anderson cooper was stating how countries south of mexico have open borders and then they're telling their citizens they can get into america. and let's not just talk about immigration, this is drug issue as well. one of the things you said and many others when we were talking during the shutdown and people were saying we didn't need this border wall, they said well the border wall is not going to solve your drug problem, but we're talking about shutting down the ports of entries. we're going to shutdown the border, and the experts will tell you what we've been doing isn't working. i know you were there yesterday. there was a great video you put on your show's website just today and you were talking with an agent. everything he said is true.
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congress hasn't agreed -- the congress and the president, we need to work together. the president -- >> but you're doing nothing. >> -- to shutdown the border if that's what it takes. we've got to send a message to other countries this won't work. >> let's answer that last one, okay? why aren't you doing anything? >> the democratic house won't even acknowledge we have a border control issue? >> why aren't you willing to give the men and women on the border who saw you say you care about, to give them what they asked for? >> i don't know if you recall the democrats have the majority in the house and -- we have got to do something in this country, but the first thing you've got to do is acknowledge there's actually a problem. democrats won't even acknowledge
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it. >> and here's the political mix on this. what is the crisis? if you go down there and talk to your men and women and i know you do this -- but forget about going there. it's good to go. you don't have to go to know. you will hear we cannot handle these kids and these families. our rules don't allow us to, our resources don't allow us to. we've been telling these people for months. yes, fencing helps in certain ways, it doesn't help us with this, and they know it and you've done nothing. >> i want us to encourage other countries to send everyone this way. that doesn't make any sense -- we've got to increase funding for border security. we've got to build meaningful walls, fences, whatever you want to call it. we've got to have this in the areas where crossings are easier. >> if you close the border the men and women there will tell
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you the migrants keep coming, congressman. >> that's because these other nations encouraged them to. >> if you cut their funding it'll encourage them more. >> we need to close the border if the president believes that's what it takes, but we've got to send a message to other nations that enough is enough. we're not going to open our doors if you encourage other nations -- >> i don't understand how punching yourself in the face encourages other people not to hit you. making your border hard to pass and process effectively is different than closing it, and that's what the president says he's going to do. we'll see -- >> the president is sending a message and i'm prepared to support him and i do. >> congressman lance goodman. so there was a lot to fact check with the president. i actually had stuff leftover, and one is worth talking about because it's about windmills and cancer. but it also raises the question, where's the hot air really
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to save 30% on all the medications we carry. so go directly to petmeds.com now. the president says he's a counter puncher. now he's taken a swing at windmills. >> if you have a wind mill anywhere near your house, congratulations your house just went down 75% in value. and they say the noise causes cancer. you told me that one,
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so he attacked them. he lost so he is bitter toward wind mills. >> you're talking about his club in scottland. turnberry. >> yes. >> then he got hit with costs so he had to pay. so he is angry with wind mills. as you have learned personally, if he doesn't like you or what you represent, this is what you get. you cause cancer. >> as they say, you mad? you bad, bro? he's mad at wind mills. i'm paraphrasing. he said, i don't want to see wind mills, i want to sew the ocean. he said all these crazy things about wind mills which, again, there is no evidence there. so he's mad. so he lost, right, he sued them. he tried to get to block the wind mill farm off of his --
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and then he lost legally, then >> so, guess what. >> what? >> he's a perfect, perfect -- >> you have a windmill on the show tonight? >> close. i have a windmill on the show, but i have someone who has a closer account of this who will tell us about the conspiracy theories and the lies and if you want to get to know this president, you got to play golf with him. it's called commander in cheat. right? >> yeah. >> yeah, rick reilly, he says "how golf explains trump." >> you hear what the mick name was that guys had for him on the course? >> what? >> the guys who worked on the course? >> they saw him kicking the ball back on to the court. >> two years under scotland, never saw much of anything, no trump -- that's the page in the book that talks about the wind mills and the cost and all that. that author is going to join us. go play golf with him. commander in cheat. >> it's destructive. we keep seeing the same pattern of behavior. d. lemon, see you in a second.
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gig-fueled apps that exceed expectations. comcast business. beyond fast. here's mainly what you'll see on the border. mothers carrying kids to safety. fathers doing the same. too many of them with bad info or acting on lies from cartels, coyotes, sometimes wishful thinking. the reality is while there are bad guys mixed in, the overwhelming majority are people who are desperate for a better life for them and their kids. the president doesn't get this. but border patrol does. >> these folks have done nothing other than cross the border illegally and most of them are economic migrants. they're looking for a better way of life. >> so, truth, it's a crisis but it's not the one the president sold you on. not marauding hordes of ms-13, drugs, terrorists, mules. that's a gross exaggeration
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matched only by the fact that the fix to the fiction is as simple as a fence. now, i get why our president plays you like this. scaring people and offering them a simple solution to what scares them sells. this president knows xenophobia is contagious, that's why he uses it to demonize people who are not americans and even those who are. isn't that was pummelling puerto rico is all about? look at the barrage of bs tweets. "puerto rico has already been scheduled to receive more hurricane relief funding than any place in history." the pols, pols, greatly incompetent. spend the money foolishly and corruptly and only take from the usa. $91 billion to puerto rico. the dems want to give them for. taking dollars away from our farmers and so many others. disgraceful. cannot continue to hurt farmers and states with massive payments. so little appreciation. let's take it piece by piece. it's a u.s. territory. calling it a place, he's otherising it, right? that's what he does. for those who argue, this is
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potus not being great with words, his team is running the same game, listen. >> all we've done in the country, had a systemic mismanagement of the goods and services we've sent to them. you've seen food just rotting in the ports. their governor has done a horrible job. trying to make political hay in a political year and trying to find someone to take the blame off of him for not having a grid, not having a good system in that country. >> these are things -- >> white house spokesman hogan gidley referred to puerto rico as "that country" twice. he said it was a slip of tongue. puerto rico's been part of the u.s. since the 1800s. back to the president's tweets. $91 billion to puerto rico and now the dems want to give them more, taking dollars away from our farmers and so many others. disgraceful. can't continue to hurt our farmers. massive payments. so little appreciation. remember that part? i want to keep the record straight. the $91 billion is not the whole story. money for pr is not stolen from farmers. $11 billion has been sent to puerto rico. not $91 billion. $11 billion. $91 billion is the estimated
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cost of recovery over two decades. see the difference? you see what he's spinning? for comparison, what did it they spend on katrina? $120 billion. didn't have the same number of dead. i'm not saying it wasn't worth it. i'm saying he's twitting it. he's misleading you again. one thing seems direct from and about our president. he's not about compassion. have you ever heard him reach out about the nearly 3,000 dead in puerto rico? if he does care, why does he deny the fact that of the death there, bitterly to the point of absurdity then when the deaths become a matter of fact, a reality, what does he do? he ignored them. lucky it was only 16. if there was death in puerto rico like katrina, that would have been really horrible. so we did great. when the death is worse than katrina, he ignores it. just like he ignores these faces. all right? why do we show you the faces? because you're not going to sell fear on that kid's face, are you? the president expressing compassion, being about the kids and their families. go look for it. good luck.
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i'll bet you whatever you want. the real open question is why he doesn't do it. one obvious reason is that caring about kids like i said doesn't sell fear. doesn't sell a wall. does it? he knows that acknowledging the reality gives him ownership of it. this system is failing and it's on his watch. it's epic and it's dangerous. our president can blame the democrats. he can blame mexico, migrants, blame anybody he wants. wall is all, that was his mantra. he ignored the cries for different rules and resources that those in charge are really worried about. they've been telling him this for months. they told me that, themselves. his administration heard them. continues to not come close to answering those cries. that's the truth. here's the bigger truth. just know what this is about. harshness is strength for this president, but it's not the only kind and it's not certainly not the signature trait of our country. it has not and will not solve
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the problems in puerto rico, the border or beyond. know that and judge it any way you like. thank you for watching. "cnn tonight" with d. lemon starts right now. >> it's exhausting. we have to do it but it's exhausting to fact check this president. it's something, you know, i'm glad that there are news organizations that are people who are devoted, that's their job, they're devoted to doing it because it's really exhausting. >> i think that the tedium of catching him when it's really pretty obvious, you got to be careful not to let it get tedious. not to let it get tiresome because you have to pick the ones that matter. 78%, your house went down. i don't care about that, with the windmill bs. even the windmill thing to me is more funny if nothing else. funny in a ridiculous way about him. >> right. >> you have is to keep track of it because he uses it as a sales tool for people. it worked on this guy from texas we had on tonight.
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