welcome to "inside politics." i'm john king. thank you for sharing your day with us. today's biggest question. could the attorney general be part of a cover-up? members of robert mueller's team are grumbling that a.g. william barr's sum over their way is way too kind to president trump. plus, house democrats add to their oversight demands and their latest push is personal. the democrats want six years of the president's tax returns and say the law makes clear he has no choice but to turn them over. and make room for tim ryan. he's a house democrat from a blue collar ohio district, and as of a few minutes ago he's

officially in the very, very crowded democratic 2020 presidential field. >> i'm going to run for president of the united states, and we're going to make something happen. >> all right. >> so you're going to run. all right. >> i love that you'll make it official right here on "the view." there is something to "the view" bump. not this the bump but a campaign bump. >> we begin the hour with a messy dispute over the mueller report and worers from some on special counsel's team that the attorney general is deliberately misleading congress and the american people. last hour the justice department pushing back forcefully defending attorney general william barr and his four-page summary of the mueller report's bottom line findings. that statement from justice coming in response to new details reported today in the pages of the "new york times" and "washington post" and now confirmed by cnn. sources who have spoken to some on team mueller quote them as saying they are frustrated with and angry at barr for a summary they see as far too kind to

president trump. the grumbling includes members of team mueller telling associates barr left out derogatory information about the president's actions. the reporting offers a very rare glimpse inside team mueller which did its talking during the investigation only through court files, and these reports only add to the pressure now on the attorney general who says he'll decide soon how much of the actual report can can be made public. democrats say these reports suggesting barr somehow sugar coated the findings only adds to their case that the entire report be made public and that congress also get mueller's working papers. the flip side is this. team trump rushing to say these new leaks prove team mueller is biased and was biased against the president. today the president again on twitter calling the investigation a hoax and saying democrats are, quote, fighting hard to keep witch hunt alive. the president's tv lawyer says this. >> they are a bunch of sneaky unethical leakers, and they are rabid democrats who hate president of the united states, and i can't tell you how much

false information they have leaked during the course of the information, and i can absolutely confident that the report will bear out the conclusions, the conclusions no obstruction, no russian collusion of any kind. it will bear that out. whether they can take some facts and twist them one way or another, we're ready to rebut that. >> with me to share their reporting and insights kara skinell and shime owen propez and karen demerjian. what is the main gripe from team mueller about barr's four-page summary? >> this is reporting from our colleagues who have learned that mueller's team is frustrated that some of the derogatory information they learned related to the president's obstruction of justice was not in the summary. this was a 400-page report and within 48 hours barr released this four-page summary.

there's frustration and now there's frustration that this letter is shaping pluck opinion about the report's findings, and we've seen the opinion says he's been exonerated even though that's not what the four-page left said. on this issue of obstruction, you know, there's the question of, you know, mueller's report as quoted by barr says that he did not reach a conclusion. you know, there was evidence on both sides, and i think that there's some frustration among the mueller prosecutors that it was summarize that had quickly and that neatly and that it didn't go into additional details and one other point of frustration is mueller's team had written some summaries around this report and those summaries they anticipated would be something that barr could use to be made public and it wasn't so there's frustration there. they anticipated that there would be a question about redactions and wrote the summaries in order for that to be their way and their voice and their tone to shape what their foundings were and that was made public. there's frustration really about the public's perception that

have. >> to that point, you knew this would be controversial. you knew there would be sources and methods and that some would have to be redacted to a degree anyway. how much is the perception from team mule their the attorney general somehow trying to put his thumb on scale and unfairly tip it towards president, or how much is it the frustration you see all the time in investigations, where investigators spend years doing something, they can't prove it or their boss decides we want prove it, can't take it to court so tradition is, if it's a bank robbery and assault and in this case the president of the united states you say we tried and you put it away and no one ever sees it. >> that's kind of where my thinking is on this, that i think people are on the team -- we saw this during the hillary clinton investigation, too. there were people on the team that were investigating her that felt she -- there was criminal behavior there, and that she should be charged, and i wouldn't be surprised if there are people on the mueller team that feels this way. that's the whole point. you have a team and everyone has different opinions and ideas, but i think in terms of what the attorney general is trying to say is, look, i had "x" amount of time do this. i tried to get out as much

information as i could in the limited time, and i'm going to do my best to give you more once we're doing with the review process. i did find it interesting that in the statement that they put out today talking about the summaries, because there's been reports indicating, you know, these summaries that the mueller team put together were made to -- were supposed to be made public. that's why they put them together. well, the attorney general says, well that's not quite true because everything that was in this report was marked as grand jury material, potentially grand jury people, 6e material that needs to be reviewed perhaps even by a judge. i don't know. there's a lot of talk and discrepancies here. it's not surprising that there would be frustration, but we don't really know who these people are that are raising these frustrations. we just knee there are frustrations. >> i'll read a little bit from the "new york times." certainly the legal questions there. eats institutional questions. investigators often disagree, you're right. happened in the clinton email investigation. happens every day in law enforcement. cops go out. the investigators go out and the boss says nice try.

i believe you, too, but we can't prove it and you put it away. how much -- how does that play into the political environment which the democrats say, okay, this is even more evidence to us. we need to see it you will all. we don't trust the attorney general. appointed by the president. we want it all. this is from the "new york times." we're not saying -- i'm sorry, this is one of the reporters who speaking this morning. >> we are not saying that every member of the mueller team is frustrated by this. we don't know what bob mueller himself thinks. he remains one of the black boxes at the center of this investigation, but there are members of the team who were involved in the decision-making around these issues that we've been talking about who have watched and been disappointed and angry about how it's being characterized. >> if urlt democrayou're the de you control the house you say let's have witnesses and see the who whole reflect. >> there's no way to resolve the

dispute unless you see what the dispute is over. it's not surprising that you would have a difference of opinion in mueller's shop just like in congress as we're waiting for bated breath to see what they are talking about. all of this is happening in a political sphere and the question is what is barr doing and trying to shift the balance of this so everybody thinks no big deal even if it turns out there is a big deal once the report comes out. so we're basically in the same boat that we were before, waiting to see if mueller -- as -- to see if barr does put out the full full extent of the report. how many redactions, is it something they are willing to show lawmakers, and i don't think you'll be able to actually resolve what the frustrations are, what's maybe missing here and what the intentions were until we see what you're talking about. >> but we are in the same boat. however, what's changed to the point you made and you saw rudy giuliani at the top of the program, you saw the president's tweet today. they believe that they can spin this in a very favorable light based on the left. there's stuff in the letter damning about the president,

saying the special counsel would not exonerate him on obstruction of justice and would not exonerate him. you saw rudy giuliani spinning, it don't believe what you hear from those people now. that's what the president said throughout investigation. mueller is out to get us. i'm sure they will try to put their foot on the accelerator there. >> the mueller team had to have known that the president was going to spin this as much as possible and take whatever conclusions they made and basically say that this is complete exonration, total vindication so they h to have written the report knowing that's the case and that's part of the frustration that you're hearing in some of these news reports that the president has taken not the mueller report but the barr summary and used that to make it total and complete vind skies a vindication and it makes it easier if the mueller sorority far more damning than the barr report. that makes it easier for the president and the team who came

out strong saying the collusion delusion is dead and no on strufnlgts multiple times speaking in front of big crowds he said the mueller report says x, y and z. this is part of the frustration that you're seeing from the mueller investigation. >> i think it's interesting that people are raising the whole thing about derogatory information, that there wasn't more derogatory information. to me that's the whole thing that got comey in trouble in all of this. >> right. >> when he went out ahead and put out derogatory information about hillary clinton and her involvement obviously in the server issue, so now we have people on the mueller team who are saying, well, we want more progity information out there about the president and on the obstruction issue, and william barr, the attorney general has been resistant, that this is something he does not want to do, not something that the department of justice and also the deputy attorney general rod rosenstein. they don't want a replay of the james comey episode so it's going to be see what in the end obviously happens. people now are complaining, on

this team that we need to put out more derogatory information. what does the attorney general do? he has said this is not something that i want to do. >> this is the precedent problem, right, which is we could have spent years criticizing what the fbi did before, what the doj did before and when the political tables have flipped, if they don't do the same thing again, we're going to be very satisfied because they set the expectation that this is what you get to learn. cooler heads are not going to prevail on this. >> and they set the expectation because the president leaned on his own justice department to give them the working papers of the hillary clinton email investigation, hard to say now that you have a new attorney general, oh, no, no, no. we're at the early stages but these leaks don't happen by accident. people out there trying to nudge the attorney general to make more of this public and we shall see. a big question now. what's next for the mueller report and for the special counsel? >> i think it's inevitable that mueller is going to testify at some point, but the first thing we need is all -- is the release of the report and the documents.

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the white house today is labeling as all politics a new democratic demand, one that we know gets under the president's skin. house democrats served notice they want six years of the president's personal tax returns and the tax filings for eight trump-owned entities. will the president turn them over? that was the question to the white house press secretary. >> look, we're not interested in playing a bunch of political games like the democrats in congress clearly want to spend their time doing. the president's focus on actually solving real problems like the crisis at the border, dealing with healthcare and a number of other fronts. we're not engaging in that, and the president commented on it yesterday. i don't see any sense that that's changed since then. >> take that as a no. cnn's lauren foxx joins us live from capitol hill. the ways and means chairman richard neal knows he's got a fight on his hands, right?

>> reporter: he's been preparing for this fight for a long time, john. i talked to him the day after the election and said he was going to make this request and it's taken him several months to get to this point. the reason is he knew this would be an arduous bat. moving forward he knows the president is not going to hand over these tax returns willingly, that the irs is likely to put up a fight. here's what he told me about why it took so long. >> this is likely to wind its way through the federal court system it, and we wanted to make sure that the case that we constructed was in fact one that would stand up under the critical scrutiny of the federal courts. the last eight presidents have released their tax forms, and we think here that there is a mechanism where these forms could be reviewed in a non-partisan basis and then we would have a chance to decide from there what to do with them. snore george the deadline here is very tight. there is only a week to reach his deadline for the irs to turn over those documents related to the president's taxes, both his

personal tax returns and his business returns, so it's unlikely that the irs will meet that deadline. what comes next, neal said he'll send another letter, but the question, of course, what comes after that? >> and the question i think coming soon to a court near you is most likely the result of that. lauren fox on capitol hill. appreciate that report and bloomberg's margaret at allon and nia ma li ka henderson join us now. this is an issue that gets under the president's skin. >> he's been unwilling to release this. this is a mart of -- there's the history public disclosure and obviously a reason why he doesn't want to release it. we don't know what the reason is. the way the democrats see this, if you don't pursue it, you won't get it, and if you do

pursue it you'll at least get a message on it. maybe it will turn republicans. a couple of republicans say we think this is an important tradition of disclosure also so what's the downside in pursuing it? >> i mean, more argument for the downside would be democrats are overreaching. democratic voters want to focus on bred and butter issues and when i'm out on the trail no one brings up the president's tax returns. nobody brings up the mueller report necessarily, but at the same time this is why voters voted in democrats in 2018. it was all about oversight. it was all about putting a check on this president, and we've been talking about this. i mean, way back to the president's -- when he was a candidate claiming all the time that he was under audit, so it's not a surprise that it came at this point. >> right, but initial message was i can't do this while i'm under audit and now he assumes he'll always be under audit. someone with that much money is

always under audit. >> the only man in america who wants to be constantly under audit so he can have that excuse. not just the president personally. the president wants all the holding companies, where the money comes from. the holding companies, the donald j. trump revokable trusts, you see all the names, a lot of this is involved in the trump business. sells his name and leases his name for building projects around the world and other projects around the world. democrats want to see where the money comes from. the irs falls under the treasury department and steve mnuchin knows the boss is watching and is watching you closely. >> i have discussed with the legal department in the treasury that we will most likely receive this request, and as i've said based upon the request we'll examine it and we'll follow the law. i'm not aware that there's ever been a question for an elected official's tax return, but we will follow the law and protect the president as we would protect any individual taxpayer under their rights. >> follow the law sounds to me

is likely there's never ban request like this before so let's go ask a judge. let a judge settle the law. >> the democrats knew they would be in for a court battle on this one, but like nia was saying, you can't not do this. there is so much criticism of trump during the election. there's been so much scrutiny on his businesses, and -- and, look, they are going to want to have more information about the businesses than just what the tax returns can show, but you can't go after deeper financial records and ignore the tax return issue so this is the gesture that they have to make and the court battle they would always have to fight. whether it means that they have to get their hands on the return before the 2020 election that's really anybody's guess and potentially not even that likely, but they have set this as meeting the promise that they made and frankly the -- the other potential downside risks that you were talking about is this has now set the standard for any of the bajillion democratic candidates getting in the race. >> bernie sanders. >> bernie sanders among them

saying soon. president trump, the day is still young, senator sanders. we know again you're steve mnuchin, the irs commissioner and you're talking to the lawyers, but you know the audience of one as we call it here in washington is watching closely. this is the president over the past two-plus years when this issue comes up. >> i'm audited every single year, and when it's under audit you don't discuss anything. i'm release when we finish with the audit. the irs has been very professional. >> when the you had a sit complete i'll release my returns. i'll have no problem with it. >> i'm not releasing the tax returns because as you know they are under audit. >> they are under audit. have been for a long time. extremely complex. people wouldn't understand them. >> the first one of those from 2016, i'll release them when the you had a sit over. this is the longest audit, if there is such an audit. the longest audit. >> yeah. >> and one of the questions and one of the things that chairman neal asked for is whether or not that is actually true. the irs would no whether or not an audit is taking place and

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welcome back. moments away from hearing from the president of the united states. he has a meeting at the white house in the cabinet meeting at the white house with the economic development council. the president has several members of his cabinet on hand and several officials from the meeting. he's taken questions from reporters, and we know those questions include negotiations with china on a big trade deal. the president will announce later today at a separate event. he's planning a summit with the chinese president xi jinping. we know that from administration officials and voicing optimism in some session that he can get to a deal with china. other issues coming up during the conversation at the white house. remember on the table right now what about release the mueller report are. the conversation we just had about the president's taxes. a lot to ask the question about. he's in the cabinet room. let's listen. not quite ready yet. sorry, we're waiting for the

president of the united states. again, the president meeting with the opportunity revitalization council. he went around the room with the cabinet and the q&a with reporters will feed now. >> thank you very much. >> thank you very much. >> thank you so much. >> trade is coming along well. we're have a big meeting this afternoon. i think you folks are going to be at it for a little while at least. the vice premier is here and lots of top people from china. they very much want to make a deal. we'll see what happens. got to be a good deal. it's got to be a great deal. look. we've been losing over many years $400 billion, $500 billion, $600 billion a year. a few years ago we were lose 200 routinely. can't do that. if it's not a great deal, we're not going to do it.

it's going very well. top officials are here, and -- and, you know, we're very well along on the deal. it's a very complex deal. it's a very big deal. one of the biggest deal ever made, maybe one of the biggest deals ever made. it will be a great deal for our farmers. technology, intellectual property theft, everything is covered. there's not a thing that's not covered. we could have made a quickie, but we're in a very good position. our economy is way up. china's not way up, and -- and we're looking to make a very good deal or we won't make a deal at all. it looks like the deal is moving along nicely. i think you'll meet me in -- we'll say hello to the media for a little while sometime after 2:00. great. thank you, everybody. >> thanks, everybody. >> thank you. >> a lot of good things are happening with mexico. mexico understands that we're going to close the border or i'm going to tariff the cars. i'll do one or the other and probably start off with the

tariffs. that will be a very powerful incentive because mexico has the strongest immigration laws anywhere in the world. they don't have courts like we do. we have a stupid system of courts. it's the craziest thing in the world. we could be the only country that has it. you put a foot on the property, you put a foot into the united states, congratulations, go get perry mason to go rip. you end up with a court case and then they relies, and you come back four or five years later but nobody comes back. 2% come back. the not so smart ones come back. it's the most ridiculous system anyone has ever seen, and we have catch and release and we have chain migration where somebody comes in and brings the whole family. bring them all, your grand parents, your brothers, your sisters, your cousins, the greatiest thing i've ever seen put in by democrats, and the democrats are going to straighten it out. if they don't straighten it out, and i predicted this. i mean, i hate to see it, but at

least i can say was right. i told everybody. this is -- you have a national emergency at our border, and nobody even talks about drugs. the drugs that are flowing in. so for the last four days, and you actually have covered it to a very minor extent, mexico has been capturing people and bringing them back to their countries at their southern border. they have been taking people under their very powerful laws. they have the right to do it, and they are bringing them back to where they came from. that's -- that's about three days now i guess frankly since they haired was going to clothes bothered, but before i close the border, if mexico and -- and -- we love mexico. we lost country of mexico. we have two problems. we have the fact that they allow people to pour in to our country. we have to stop them. border patrol has been incredible. i.c.e. has been incredible. law enforcement has been incredible, and the other problem is drugs.

massive amounts of -- large, most of the drug, much of the drugs coming into our country come through the southern border in all different ways. much of it where we don't have walls. the wall sunday construction, by the way, large sections. we're going to be meeting i think on friday at a piece of the wall that we've completed, a big piece. a lot of it is being built right now. a lot of it is being signed up right now by different contractors. it's moving along very nicely, but we need the wall, but we need lots of other things, so we need help from mexico. if mexico doesn't give the help, that's okay. we'll tariff their cars coming into the united states. the other thing is because mexico is such a big source of drugs, unfortunately, unfortunately, and now we have china sending fentanyl to mexico so it can be delivered into the united states and it's not acceptable. the second aspect of is that you

haven't heard before is if the drugs don't stop, mexico can stop them if they want, we're going to tariff the cars. the cars are very birks and if that doesn't work we're going to close the border, by think that will work. that's massive numbers. dollars, so if -- if we don't see people apprehended hand brought back to their countries and if we see these massive care advance coming up to our country right through mexico, coming right through mexico, like nothing. buses are even given to them. the last three days it hasn't happened, since i said we're closing the border. the only thing frankly better and less drastic than closing the border is tariff the cars coming in and i will do it. you know i'll do it. i don't play games. we want to stop people. we want to give them a one-year warning and if the drugs don't stop or aren't largely stopped we're going to put tariffs on mexico and products, in

particular cars, the whole ball game is cars. that's the big ball game with many countries, it's cars. and if that doesn't stop the drugs we close the border because mexico last year, and over for many year, just like china, except china numbers are very bigger, and i don't blame china and i don't blame mexico if they can get away with it. i blame the people that used to sit in this seat because they should have done something about it. around i'm not just talking about president obama. i'm talking about many presidents. they should have done something about if. so if mexico doesn't do what they can do very easily, apprehend these people coming in, and they can do it in a much more humane fashion. why should they walk up 2,000 miles and then be brought back? they can stop them right at their southern border, right where they come into mexico, and they have unbelievable immigration laws where they have the right to do it, the most powerful in the world, as good

as can you have. and they are going to do it, and if they don't do it we'll tax the cars, and if that doesn't work we'll close the borders, but we're also going to do something having to do with tariffs on drugs because not only are hundreds of thousands of lives a year being ruined in our country, but numbers of people are dying that you wouldn't believe. we'll lose one military personnel and it's a front page story and yet we have 100,000 people -- people don't even know the number. they say 77,000. they say 72,000. any number they give you can guarantee to raise it, and if the drugs don't stop, we're going to put tariffs on. it also costs our country at least $500 million through our southern border, $500 billion, so we will put tariffs on -- if they don't apprehend and ultimately we're going to give a period of time, but if in a year

from now drugs continue to pour in, we're going to put tariffs on. now, we have a deal. usmca, it's all done. they are going to have to live with it, okay? i'm not trying to be unfair. they are going to have to live with it. the usmca is a great deal for everybody, but this is more important to me than the usmca, so they will have to live with it. thank you very much. thank you. thank you very much, everybody. >> thank you very much, press. >> thank you. >> thank you very much, press. >> thank you. thank you. tell you one thing, it's a great deal. if they don't pass it, it's purely police camp the usmca, everyone wants to see it passed, but we'll see. whatever they want to do is okay with me. thank you. >> thank you. >> president. united states in the cabinet room taking questions from

reporters. most of that conversation about relations with mexico and with china. trade tensions, immigration tensions, drug smuggling tensions from the president. let's try to translate what we just heard. to me the most significant thing, the president didn't say it this way, but that he's backing away to close the border. backing away. saying he'll shut down ports of entry, wants to take the resources by shutting down the ports of entry, take the resources and put them off to fight illegal border cross and the president saying he's warning mexico that if they don't do a better job stopping migrants from coming to the north he'll put tariffs on their car. >> in it a year. >> in a year. >> he says the problem is the flow of immigrants and the flow of drugs. his solution, connecting a whole different issue, trade issue putting teartives on the car and said he would give them a year and a warning which tells me, we began the week thinking on friday he might announce a closing of the border. members of congress and other members of his party said that would be a disaster and he's

backing off >> exactly the way i heard those comments also, and it's been very important in terms of the president's thinking to have so many republicans inside his own administration as well as inside congress and in the business world saying if you do this, this will hurt you because it will hurt the economy and that will hurt you as you head into re-election so what we heard him do that, and the white house is to shift the focus over from that closing the border debate into the tariffs debate and then give it a year which will put us right smack in the next -- i know we're already in the middle of the next presidential election, but who is going to remember had a year from now that the magic date is april the 2nd, you know. >> who is going to know if he says the same thing tomorrow, the president, one of his strengths and frustrations for his own team he often makes up policy on the fly. if you listen to that conversation, he did say -- did give mention cope some credit saying the government of mexico because of his threats to close the border is doing a better job in durning migrants around but the president there at the end

saying the usmca was done, not completely done. said another couple of things, the percentage of those who are cap toured at the border and who come for their court date. seems to be look for a way out after saying he would close the border. republican senators, including the two republican senators from texas saying pubically it would be a disaster and calamity for our state. >> we've seen this president for so many different times, amplifies a cries, mix a big issue out of something, quickly declares victory and backs down after he gets a lot of pushback from members of his own party and said since i said i'd shut down the border everything is getting better, the mexican government is doing their job. i don't think we're seeing that in the march and april numbers, i don't think we'll see any difference in the numbers coming across illegally. the president wants to be able

to declare victory and say even though i'm backing down on the threat to shut the border i got something out of it. a pattern we see from the president. >> the president is planning a summit with xi jinping, a huge deal. if you're a republican member of congress and the president has often not listened to you and frustrated you, mitch mcconnell says we're not doing that. a lot of people right there on the bothered said, mr. president, stop talking about closing the border. this is a calamity. this is the second time in a word the president, a pick your word, blinked, backed down, depending on your view of the president, you'll pick your own word about that. >> if this frequency keeps up between now and 2020 this will be a big problem between now and see what trump is staying or do they follow it or do they spent time trying to hold them back?

>> this is not the first time we've seige that dynamic. not usually no issues in a week that happen. look. this is not necessarily going to be the biggest policy season to begin with in terms of making things happen in congress because we're heading towards an election. >> and we have a divided government. >> and we have a divided government. however, if you wanted to do anything in congress other than getting judges through the senate you'll have trouble doing that because the senate republicans don't like to move until they know the president is behind them. they can't say that's an area of basic things to say there's no place for them to go except to try to straighten things out as quickly as we can, but we see that split happening and that raise questions for whether they will be behind them going forward. >> so odd to see him so pubically kick the can down the road for a full year right, i mean this, idea on the one hand. he's talked about this with such urgency, this is an imminent tlerkts basically an invasion

from the southern border, 100,000 people are dying a year he said of drugs, and so to say, oh, they have a year and we might put tavaras on cars. at some point he said he'd put tariffs on drugs as well. >> okay. >> i'm not sure how that works. >> but that was really odd to give that long of a time. >> again, again, this is just one of the things that have to be fact checked. he said 2% or the stupid ones return for their hearings and other sources say 6 0s to 65%. what the president says in these frays often turns out to be very different from the facts. >> a summit will be announced with xi jinping which tells you they are close to having a final agreement the president said he wouldn't do it unless he got a big deal. he won't take an easy deal and he said it would include

intellectual property which has opinion a source of contention between the united states and china essentially since china's economy become -- >> do you think they will get that deal? >> i don't know. we hear so many mixed signals from the white house and the people close to the president in the world of trade about how close they are and the president likes to reach agreements and he's been wanting to meet with xi for a couple of months and the day keeps getting bushed further back and even as recently as this morning we heard mixed signals on how ready they are really to go forward so i think he does want to have this meeting and he's ready to have the meeting, but there's still a lot of, you know, questions about whether this will be like soybeans with a ribbon on top or something real, really real and we just don't know yet. today's discussion could be important. >> vice premier is the number one official on trade. sometimes setting a deadline is what -- sometimes a deadline helps you if there's big hurdles

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joe biden says he gets it, but he isn't saying he's sorry. the former vice president tweeted a two-minute video yesterday responding to several women who have come forward to say biden touched them at events and what he described as innocent gestures of friendship and affection made them uncomfortable. >> social norms have begun to change. they have shifted, and the boundaries of protecting personal space have been reset, and i get it. i get it.

i hear what they are saying. i understand it, and i'll be much more mindful. that's my responsibility. my responsibility, and i'll meet it. >> is that enough to quite the controversy? will tim pact biden's standing way atop the 2020 democratic field? let's discuss with the co-hosts of the pollsters podcast. he say top the pack. he does this video. most people think of joe biden as a good guy. just first impressions and then we'll get into some data. is that the best way to handle this and give people a chance to say -- do we know anything about how the public processes this info? >> i don't suspect you'll see poll numbers move a lot. a lot of polls are being driven around by name id and things. the fact that joe biden is known, vice president for a very popular barack obama which is why this one issue alone is not going to be necessarily make or break but it talks about some of the kills that he needs to get

better at if he wants to be a strong contender. one is speed. this story could have been a one-day one news cycle story. if he would have done that video a few days ago and said, look, i'm so sorry, i didn't realize my behavior was feeling that way it would have been a up or two-day story. where's that statement? where's that statement. >> has joe biden's moment actually passed, not just the age of me, too, but everything, social media and being more nimble, being more quick? what are we learning from this? >> first, i give him credit for going on camera. other folks when they have had an issue they send out a tweet. he went face to face. clearly he's taking it seriously or thinks it may be serious. i think that -- well, first of all, i think we just need to

take a step back and not look for tiny bumps in national primary surveys as a sign that something is happening. there's a lot of like clicky stories about tiny, tiny of movements out there about all the candidates. there's a pollster daily plea for that and rights now i think biden has advantages because he has ire name i di as a lot of conned dates. the field is not set. we may see some changes because of this story or other stories or what people are learning about other candidates. we don't know yet. >> that's the hard part to dissect. that's hard to know about any poll. want to take it over time and that doesn't always work but there's 17 candidates. congressman tim ryan getting in. some people's numbers go up and others come down. i want to look at joe biden. look at the polling, poll at

number one, it's from earlier in march. the 21st through the 25th. this poll taken before anybody processed this. the new allegations. there he is. 29%, among all democrats. it's a national poll. not iowa or new hampshire. that's a good position but some think being a front-runner at this particular point is curse. now this is the number that's signature to me. among female democrats, the vice president 11 points ahead of bernie sanders so he starts with all democrats and democratic women in a very powerful position. does that strength help him get through a controversy like this? >> i think so. i think in part because there are a number of democratic voters where the number one issue is with demom nate -- is there someone that can beat donald trump? are we making it harder on joe biden if he goes on to be in the

job election? the electability question is really important to democratic voters and how do they look at this story? is this stuff going to dog him for the next yore and a half and do we need to find somebody that's a fresh face as well? >> it's always tough to ask people to play political consultant saying you may think this and what are other people going to think down the road? i think primary voters are looking for who do i want to see defeat trump? democratic primary voters feel very united around the fact that they want somebody different than the current president so they will be looking at what they find appeal. it's important to mention that democratic primary voters are disproportionately female and, that you know, women voters, think about a variety of different things and prioritize a variety of different issues but being able to able to demonstration you can -- >> to that point. let mow show you this other date, a. democrats are better off were

biden or berp. democratic voters, without sanders here and with biden 51. democrats enter this race thinking biden is more electable than bernie sanders. the president is in the space on this issue, back in the news. if the electability his calling card is there a reason to think that this will didn't it a little bit. i think voters are looking for voters that will kite them. who unwho can bring people together for what's next. >> i think for republicans they are mostly looking for -- how far to the left will democrats move? how will they define electability? will it be defined by someone who is more moderate and can appeal to a section of the middle or is it someone that can

go toe to toe with trump and fight him even if they are more ideologically to the left? >> see if the vice president speeds up trying to get off the sidelines to try to answer. brianna keilar continues the news right after a quick break. have a great afternoon. california phones offers free specialized phones... like cordless phones,

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i'm brianna keilar live from cnn's washington headquarters. under way right now, attorney general bill barr defending his summary after members of robert mueller's team say the findings of their investigation were more damaging than revealed. congress wants to reveal trump's biggest secret, his tax returns. why this battle could go all the way to the supreme court. five more democrats either jumping in or signaling they are close to jumping in to the 2020 presidential race. that would bring the candidate count to a whopping 20, and a prelim