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put people here thinks are more pliant on the fed. >> thank you for being with us. to be continued. the news continues. i want to hand it over to chris. >> thank you, and welcome to prime time. we have several big stories for you tonight. what is going on with the president's taxes? did he really say he doesn't want to turn them over? his lawyer says that. we have a great legal mind to take you through it. the president we believe to the border today. instead of seeking to help people, he accused asylum seekers of perpetrating a hoax on manager. now, his fence fund finding emergency declaration is being challenged in california. its attorney general is here to explain. we'll take on those two situations. and we're also going to double down on what will really happen when the democrats look to get the president's taxes. preet bharara who i referred to has a new book out.
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it takes us through whether this is a part of breakdown in justice. forget the questions about biden's past. his real question is whether he fits into the presence of the pardon. great debate. let's get after it. the president knows the emergency is kids on the border. not killers. so why didn't everything to the shelters? why didn't he see the kids and families? instead he said this. >> the system is fulfill can't take any more. asylum. i look at some of these asylum people. they're gang members. they're not afraid of anything. and they say, i fear for my life. they're the ones causing fear for life. it's a scam. okay? it's a scam. a hoax. he know about hoaxes. i just went thank you ohio valley. >> it's called selling a fence
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as a farce. look at the numbers. the bad guys are not what collapses the system. it is the kids and families. so now enstead of using his emergency declaration to harness military and family to help with the flow he'll be leading it in court. the attorney general haljavier bester filed it. good to have you here. >> what did you see today? what did you see today that sheds light on why you're suing him? >> i only saw vintage donald trump. who is a showman and doesn't really care to speak to the real facts. being there at the border, he could have seen the real facts and come up with real solutions. that's why we're having to file this motion for a preliminary injunction and the lawsuit we
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filed all together to try to to that this charade of a national emergency that requires a border wall. >> let's do a little dialeck particular here. the law says he can file it. there are no conditions on when he can and when he cannot. >> any time you have a law, you have to meet the conditions of the law. there is no reason to try divert funds. even if he tried to divert funds, a federal statute doesn't override a u.s. constitutional provision. it says it is congress that determines where taxpayer moneys will go. not the president of the united states. >> so the statute doesn't define what an emergency is. so how will you articulate to the court what it is that he did wrong here? >> well, we've seen the use of this statute on national emergency before.
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>> many times. >> many times. 9/11. george bush declared a national emergency. the iran hostage crisis. president jimmy carter declared a national emergency. we've seen the cases where it makes sense to declare a national emergency. most of these emergencies that have been declared relating to a foreign government's activities where we try stop what they're doing through, for example, some teach of boycott. something where we impact the economies to try to send a message. we don't do national emergencies when you don't succeed getting what you want out of congress. >> has anyone ever successfully sued a president for declaring an emergency? >> i don't believe a president has ever been sued. >> that's correct. >> so what does that give you? as a blessing and a burden? >> the blessing is that fortunately, the first time a president is being sued, it is donald trump. we've sued him 49 times.
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we've had mostly success. >> what's the burden that you have no press denial? this will be a case of first impression. >> i'll take benefits. even though the president gets latitude in terms of exerting executive authority, special when i there is a statute designed to do exactly that. >> no one is above the law in this country. that's what the constitution provides. >> true. the provision that says, a lot of the statute, people could read it but they won't. it talks about yes, you can have the authority. you have to report to congress. what if argument is made. there are a lot of checks and controls even though he declares it. congress gets the power back very quickly. they can shut down the funding that he can declare very quickly. >> here's the problem with that argument. there are military families who are sending their kids to school who have been promised decent
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schools for their kids. some of the money donald trump plans to take to build this border wall could come from the funding that's there to upgrade or to fix these schools. some of it is used for drug interdiction. they are doing everything they can to keep drugs from infiltrating their states. that will hurt a lot of people. there is money being taken by donald trump to build his unauthorized border wall that would otherwise be spent by local law enforcement agencies throughout the country, including here in california, that will no longer get through treasury funds, asset forfeiture fund that would give us the dollars to go after criminals and racketeering organizations. people will be hurt. how many times and how many ways? 6.7 billion ways. that's the kind of money that donald trump wants to divert from legitimately authorized programs to his unauthorized border wall. >> so you'll make a constructive
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argument that the end run around the provision. also has an injury. and the injury is that where he's undoing congress's appropriations will create an arguable harmful. >> correct. he doesn't have the power to change the constitution or violate the constitution. he also doesn't have the right by fabric it aing this emergency as you've mentioned many times in the program. it is not helpful to build a wall along the stretch of the southern border, when most of the folks today are trying come in through ports of entry. saying i would like to turn myself in because i would like to apply for asylum. >> this may be an answer against interest. if the president were using the emergency declaration, to
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address the humanitarian crisis on the border by giving an immediate and emergency infusion of resources, to cvp to do the things they need, to take up the security operations where necessary. to the side, the law that says you can't use them on he said force your laws. and to build a tent city, to keep them in accommodations where they could be processed through human an. would you be upset? >> the trump administration doesn't have authority to swipe money from one program in a different agency and send to it a different agency. it would be unconstitution aleve if i might like it. i will tell you this. the most logical way to use resources is to help reduce
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backlog of these asylum cases. the more cases that aren't adjudicated, the more people are hearing at home, guess what, the person got into the country, claimed asylum. six months later, as far as we know, they're still there. if we adjudicated those cases. and many won't qualify for asylum. they would be returned. >> you don't have say over that. not yet any way. unless you decide to get into a different type of office. the rules aren't working to meet the flow right now. if you come in illegally and you say you want asylum there after, it triggers the line. how they process the cases. they have an 800,000 case backlog. it is about congress and how they make the rules. >> it has become a massive backlog. donald trump has cut the resources needed to process those cases. we're sending a terrible signal
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to the countries in el salvador, guatemala, honduras. they're not looking at the political fight. they're just look at whether the folks that left are in the u.s. if they saw they're returning back to the home country because they didn't qualify. the message would be clear. why would i spend whatever money to find a coyote to get to the u.s. if i have to go right back. >> my sources at cbp agree with you 100%. they want to ajod indicate quickly to send the message that it is not as easy as they think. we knew this was coming. it is interesting that california is heading the way with 20 other states. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> we've got some fact checking to do. spoiler alert, our country is full. hard to verify but it is only the first serving on a tasty menu of truth abuse.
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fact check chef himself. and a proud bar tender is firing back at the president. she accuses him of mocking his final profession. is she right or too righteous ♪ pardon the interruption but this is big! now at t-mobile buy any samsung galaxy s10 and get a galaxy s10e free! it's been a long time since andrew dusted off his dancing shoes. luckily denture breath will be the least of his worries. because he uses polident 4 in 1 cleaning system to kill 99.99% of odor causing bacteria. polident. clean. fresh. and confident.
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who see the efficient shape and design of the ocean's wonders as the future of aerodynamics. at dell technologies, we see it too. if you'd like to transform your business, talk to us. and we'll show the world what impossible looks like... when it's made real. . we've got a fact check for you. there is so much bmp s going on about what the truth is. the perfect person to do it. daniel dale, washington bureau chief of the toronto star, makes his business checking the president. first, i have a lot to get through. don't rush but rush. here's the first one. the president saying, no more. the system is fulfill. >> the system is full. whether it is asylum, anything you want. illegal immigration.
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we can't take you anymore. our country is full. our area is full. the sector is full. >> he can't just undo asylum. what about the basic premise in too many people. >> this is one have those where trump takes something that could be reasonable and turns it into something absurd. there has been an increase in unaccompanied minors and families. so the system is strained. come on. our country is full? america is not fulfill there is room for people once they make it through asylum process. >> in fact, countries dealing with the diminishment.
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here's what they're doing. >> the. a drugs, human trafficking, a terrible thing. they come into the areas of the border where you don't have the wall of they come into areas where you don't have the wall. >> the reality. >> it is simply false that human traffic victims do not come through legal ports. i talked on six experts in human trafficking who stay majority did come through legal ports. they're not tied up and bound and taped like trump has said. more often, they are deceived or coerced into coming into this country. they believe they have a good job waiting for them so they don't need to be ferried through. they come through on international visas. 80% of trafficking victims have
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a journey that involves a trip through a legal port. so it is simply false. >> and the drugs seized among all the different categories are taken across the port entry. not on foot. if you look at criminal apprehensions, i'll put it on. you will see the number has been going down. the only spiking situation is kids and families. >> next, mexico apprehensions. >> i'm totally willing to chose the border but mexico, the last four days, has done more than they've ever done. we were talking about that. their apprehending people by the thousands. >> what does mexico say? >> the mexican foreign minister did a press conference and said he had no idea what trump was talking about. >> that's because he's making it up. >> mostly. there was a fact check that went
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up an hour or two ago that showed that mexico's apprehension has incrementally increased from the beginning of april. they apprehended 1,300 people from the beginning of april. that would put them at 19,000 over the course of the month. that's an increase from 13,000 last month. it is not true that mexico was not doing this before. that this is a dramatic sudden change. wroef se we've sustain increase. >> all right. one more. the reason for going down today was to commemorate the first new section of wall that has been built by this president. listen. >> we would like to present with you this piece of the first 30-foot border wall installed along the united states border with mexico. >> what is the reality of what fence that plaque was put on? >> this is comical to me.
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last year, at the beginning of last year, the assistant chief patrol agent for the border patrol took pains, went out of his way and approached the local newspaper and said this is not part of the president's border wall. this is replacement fencing along the planned project that was planned as early as 2009. the beginning of the obama era in which we will replace the old fence with a new fence. then later in 2018 the trump administration said we haven't built any new wall. we'll just claim that this replacement fencing is a new wall. so they erected a plaque and gave him a plaque but this is not new miles of wall. this is a replacement project. >> he said lies when the truth is good enough. how dare they put people who worked their heart out right now to be a part of that. you do your job very, very well. thank you. all right. joe biden all but admits he's getting in the race. he hasn't, but he says he will.
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moderate democrats in the traditional sense. the progressive left. we should have a debate about these things. the idea that the democratic party woke up and everybody asks, what kind of democrat? i'm an obama-bide yep democrat. >> obama-biden democrat. >> howard dean is here. do you like that answer? >> yes. i do. it's true. i'm neutral and i like all the younger candidates. but this is a big thing about the media. they've got totally wrong. because they had three very liberal women, who were very successful. aoc being the one with a tremendous amount of ink. we picked up 40 seats. most of those were in orange county, california, texas, oklahoma, kansas, central
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pennsylvania, the vast majority of the democrats elected in the last election are liberal/centrists. so that's just a fact. biden is right about that. >> so we'll use that as the first metric. we'll move on. but niger, what do you make about dean's argument? >> the problem is people like me and people like you who are trying to fuel a false narrative that this party is further left so you can may the socialist card. >> well, forget me and others that might try to do that. look at 2016 when a identify who was a registered socialist for most of his political life, bernie sanders, got nearly 50% of the democratic voters to vote for him. the heart and soul of the democratic party, and howard makes a good point about the number of congressional speets were won in purplish districts.
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they're going to be very vulnerable. the rock stars, bernie sanders, for that matter. and more than that. you've got these folks defining the narrative, they're defining what will be the presidential contest. i can't wait. >> he's putting the bernie bros up your nose. >> i think the terms, left and right, are being somewhat, they're somewhat obsolete. i love aoc. i think she's a fantastic spokesperson. and the reason for that is not because she said she's a democratic socialist. she's going in there and kicking the most conservative with a small c. institution in washington that resists all change right in the butt. i think the american people love that.
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i am not the least bit worried about people saying our party is too left. it is not the fact. bernie sanders didn't get all those votes because he was a left wing person. he got the votes because he was telling it like it is and people like that. i'm in. i'll take you all on. i like our party right where it is. the voters will decide what they want and i think we'll come out in the ticket with a good ticket and i think it will beat the living day lights out of trump. >> quick follow. where does biden fit in that? when he says an obama-biden democrat. he does not argue the same way these new women warriors in the party do. i agree with you. you've got pelosi in there and steny hoyer. he doesn't, a to you same argument. >> they may, i think what people, look. i have believed, i've said this
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before, the democratic party is being taken over by the younger generation and that's a good thing. that's the future of the country is that the republicans are 55 years old and about 98% white. that's not the future of the country. >> i don't think there's any guarantee any of the folks more experienced and have all that name recognition will win. he may. bernie may. i think this is very much up for grabs and i think we'll go through the first four primaries into california, there will be five or six people around and one or two will be these young upstarts that nobody has ever heard of. >> i was sleeping on the initial premise about 2018. i wanted to get into the debate. mr. dean is making, he's making a strong point because he's done his research. the people voting are younger. they are browner. they are more female.
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and they are more about social justice. and the democrats got them. if they harness that in the general, how do you compete? >> i don't know that they've got all of them. i've had the opportunity. >> if the metric is like it was in 2018. the president to the extent that he was on the ballot, got a whooping. >> right. >> and that's not unprecedented. obama got a whooping in his mid-term elections disaster clinton. lost the house of representatives for the first time in decades. that's not unprecedented. with this economy booming, you have basically darn near full employment that is taking place. and taking place. with the federal reserve, kept interest rates near zero. >> he was coming out of a crisis. >> a bunch of republicans. >> i'm not saying it's right or wrong. you have a booming economy that
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is truly booming. basically, full employment. african-american employment, unemployment, has gone down by 25% since trump has gotten elected. so a lot of those brown and black faces and younger folk and women, i think, will want to keep the course of the country. the way the country is going right now economically and are not going to want to go and support what i call the maduro chavez wing of the party. >> what wins? the pocket book politics or the people who listened to what donald trump has said? and they vote for him because of the pocket book. >> i think, i see the pocket book people are voting for us this time. he gave a 2.7 tax cut to the richest people in america. you ask farmers how they're doing. they're second wind. trump has a problem with his own base. and yes, he will get the people
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all riled up about immigration. the smart trump voters may not be well educated but they're not dumb. they're people working hard for a living. their wages are not going up. >> being educated and being smart are often two very different things. >> that's true. >> god bless you both for being with me on a friday night. enjoy your weekends. >> does the president's lawyer have any say in whether the government can see his taxes? what does this fiasco say about where we are in the pursuit of justice? legal guru preet bharara. coming on prime time. the perfect guest who has good answers on both of these vexing questions, next. jackson hewitt and get all the benefits of a tax pro. with jackson hewitt you get 100% accuracy and our max refund guarantee. so, switch to jackson hewitt. open late and weekends.
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with a lot of other young couples. then we noticed something...strange. oh, could you, uh, make me a burger? -poof -- you're a burger. [ laughter ] -everyone acts like their parents. -you have a tattoo. -yes. -fun. do you not work? -so, what kind of mower you got, seth? -i don't know. some kid comes over.
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prosecutor, now a best selling author. the book dove tails perfectly for us tonight. his book is doing justice. >> the president's lawyers says, don't do it. does that mean anything? >> it may. the letter sp terrible. the constitutional prohibition that's the congress can ask for information. it has to be related to legislative goal, not just an oversight goal. i have doubts over whether they stated that but they make arguments. the question whether they have standing to go before the irs doesn't really seem to matter. the irs can take what people say. including individual taxpayers who think the tax documents should be provided to congress or to the public. so we'll see.
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another example of one of those where there will be a fight. once lawyers get involved, and i'm a lawyer. it can muck up the works. >> true. on mueller. i get why that's mucking up the works. you don't have a lot of clear law. you know, bob barr can say i'm sticking by the rules. on this, the 1924 statute, whatever it is, '24? that says here are the three people who can ask for this. it says if one of these people asks, the irs shall give it over. the question is whether or not the whole committee gets it. where's the leeway? >> you can make arguments. i will say that the letter that the democratic chairman sent, you know, arguably, it is political. it looks like it doesn't relate to a specific legislative
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function. if that's the standard. i don't know if that's the proper standard. they have an interest figuring out how the irs audits and deals with others, the narrow read. what i find interesting in the request. i think it is much more narrow. request number five. the committee asks the question, which of donald trump's. at a returns have been under audit and for what period of time? you might say that's a matter of privacy. individual citizens are not supposed to be subject to prying. the president of the united states has said every day, i can't release my tax returns because they're under audit. >> he said he thinks the reason he gets audited so much is because he's a devout christian. >> because the numbers are so big. that's why i have not been audited, they're so small.
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>> my numbers should be much bigger. i appreciate you making that argument. >> do you think they get taxes? >> i think there mean an argument about it. there is a chief cowboy. we've seen in certain circumstances, with bill barr who i've never thought of as, he's giving shield with respect to the summary about the mueller report. the laws are important but there are people who serve the function of interpreting they will. congress or anywhere else. and it largely depends on them. >> there may be more heat than light and overreach. so you segued. so one of the main ideas in this, and it is a much more clever narrative. he's such a serious guy. there's a lot of interesting, witty stuff in there.
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the examples of how they help to control. the idea of what the rules are. versus who the rules work for and who used the rules to their own advantage. where are we today? >> a great place. i don't talk tub about donald trump or about his policies or about the people around him. we do it all the time. >> it's not an attack. >> no, not at all. we do it on twitter and other places. when you have people around the president who say there are alternative facts. or truth isn't truth. that is a time for sort of taking stock of first principles and figuring out, what does truth mean? and telling stories about it. i think you get a sense of ways you can get it wrong and ways you can get it right. but focusing on the discretion
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asserted by real people. it is not just for lawyers. in fact, it is probable more relative to people in journalism or work in a bank or teachers or any other institution you can imagine. villone has to make judgments. the truth about an event. >> you talk a lot about different ways of the integrity of the system. he says let's not deal with the facts. this bharara guy, whoever the prosecutor is. the judge named florida hees did the flores settlement. they're liars. they're sneaky. that's an effective way. that is the trust we need to have in our system. >> i make the point in the book of the it is par for the course. you're a prosecutor. people don't like to be investigated. people are now at a prison and want to attack motives, incentives. you deal with that as a prosecutor. the difference is, when the
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party involved has the largest mega phone on the planet. when it is the president of the united states doing it, it has a different impact. the president says every day that bob mueller directly or indirectly is a bad person. even though he's a vietnam veteran and a marine. he served in an honorable way. when democrats got together, instead of the 320 million in the country, and his fbi term was over, they changed the law unanimously to let him spend another two years. even a guy like bob mueller can be swift boated if you have someone with the biggest mega phone on earth attacking the prosecutor, the people who have the temperatuerity to go after . if he likes what he says, then you're an enemy of the people.
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that has an effect on the public, people who are not paying attention to it. and i think it undermines people believe in the system. >> it gives insight into these types of systems. they probably haven't thought of it before. >> i appreciate everything you do. >> congratulations on its early successful. >> from the obvious truth to the hidden meaning. two headlines. >> a fledging member of congress, alexandria over
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it has limitations. but so is her vulnerability earning back a may know policy situation like this right off the bat. but there is something else there. the headlines that came out of it were starkly different in the left and the right media. take liberal huff post. hailing her words. look at the conservative washington examiner. aoc documents southern drawl to talk to black audience. let's bring in d lemon. not to type cast you. >> as soon as i take a sip. who am i? let's go to the black expert. our senior black corn. >> i just want you to be an affect expert tonight. let's listen to what she says. and first, see if we do perceive an affect. if so, we'll get to whether we like it or not. here the tape. >> i'm proud to be a bartender. ain't nothing wrong with that. there is nothing wrong with
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working retail, folding clothes for other people to buy. there is nothing wrong with preparing the food that your neighbors will eat. there is nothing wrong with being a working person in the united states of america. >> affectologist? >> so here's what we're talking about. we're talking about code switching. you do it. we all do it. >> no. >> you say, this is for -- >> that's italian. >> you're talking italian. >> but i am italian. how is it code switching? >> she's from the bronx. >> but the allegation is she's affecting a black-sent. >> are you saying all black people speak southern? >> no. >> listen. there is a difference between mocking someone, or a group of people, and knowing your audience. >> yes. >> and reading the crowd.
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she's speaking to a group of black people from new york where she is from. she's at al sharpton's event. she's from the bronx. >> the boogie down bronx. >> you have hung out with black people and that's not the first time she's used that accent. trust me. >> that's what she says. she says so people know, as much as the right wants to distort and deflect, i'm from the bronx. i act and talk like it. especially when i'm home. >> i did not even know that she responded. so i said the same thing. i felt the same thing. i did not know she responded. i don't think i followed her on twitter. i don't follow the president. but can we talk about it? so he called her a bar tender? >> his attack was, a bar tender wrote the green new deal here. like she's beneath it. >> a young bar tender. she called him an old real estate agent. let's talk about the policies.
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what she talked but was really important. he is saying, there is nothing wrong with being a bartender in america. >> and ironic given the man supposedly for the regular working man, yeah, i love you but you're stupid. >> a young bartender is part of america. >> i'm 100%, agree with everything you've said so far. >> it's coat switching, everybody does it. i do it. you do it. you may not realize you're doing it. >> what's that big word you just threw around? >> die glossia? >> somebody gave you that. >> are you trying to say i don't know that word because i'm black? >> no, because you're dumb. >> no, that is not -- so i don't see anything wrong with it. she knows her audience. listen, what i have to say about her -- >> please. >> i've been watching her, i've met her here, after she won, she's here in new york and she was here at cnn.
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i talked to her. didn't feel one way or the other about her. just observed. the writer's obsessed with her. >> obsessed. >> obsessed. it's unbelievable. so anybody who touches a nerve like that, i think it's a -- i think they're worth watching to see why she touches such a nerve. >> i'll tell you what, where she surprised me thus far. >> yes. >> because the media loves her. everybody's giving her a big boost and she's got to be careful. the media is not your friend, builds you up, tear you down just as fast. but she seems to win most of the spats she gets into. it's not like she's just running her mouth. when you came at her -- sean duffy came at her in -- >> the smartest questions during the cohen hearing, i thought -- >> she's on her game. >> she's pushing an agenda, far left, and will her party adopt it, how does that mean for them in the country? we'll see. >> that doesn't mean she's not smart. >> practicality is not the same
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thing as -- >> the former governor of colorado on, john hicken looper, talking about all these issues, talk about joe biden, alc and on and on. is there a circular firing squad going on with the democratic party? >> good metaphor. see you in a second. >> die glossia, google it. >> the biggest word he knows is mayonnaise. trump to the border, he did the opposite of what i recommended, the results were exactly as expected. what he surrendered and where the battle of the border is headed, next. the latest innovation from xfinity
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a get your questions answered by awesome experts store. it's a now there's one store that connects your life like never before store. the xfinity store is here. and it's simple, easy, awesome. so my argument was simple and strategic, mr. president if you're going to the border don't just look at a fence and extend a farce, the justification for this part the fencing went to isn't new construction, you can say it is, doesn't make it so, it's replacement fence, planned before this potus was even elected. the exception of reality is fitting if you think about it, the fence farce was a re-do to begin with, pretending to build something. my argument was it would have been a great opportunity to shift and embrace the humanity that is the actuality. he's demonstrably wrong that the
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crisis is fixed by a wall. you see the numbers. you heard cbp, take a look at your screen. you heard the dhs secretary, kids and families and flow at the points of entry. fence doesn't fix it alone. if he went there, looked at the faces, showed he cared, that would put him in the right space, and there was a second stage, use the emergency declaration to send resources to the border that they need. in one stroke you go where almost no one in congress has, show that you care and do something about it that puts congress in a position to have to act. but as many of you guessed, that was not a move that could make it into his head, nor certainly into his heart. now, look, i'm no fool. if i am, i'm a fool for hope. i believe in change. i'm about redemption and doing better. instead this potus did his least. he faked the fence. he didn't visit the video. when he did decide to address the devastating dynamic of kids and families flooding our border, he said the worst thing
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he could. >> the system is full, can't take you foreign minister, whether it's asylum, whether it's anything you want, illegal immigration, can't take you anymore. we can't take you. our country is full. our area is full, the sector is full. can't take you anymore. i'm sorry. >> it's like the opposite of the statue of liberty, no compassion, no conviction. no connection to reality. he is right, the system is overwhelmed. but now what? you can't end asylum, certainly not himself, no more than he can change the 14th amendment and end birthright citizenship by himself, even alex jones knows that. here's the regret. when given a chance to show his best to make congress see there is someone, there is something to work with, that it's not all lies and fake solutions and shows of pretend strength he reenforced every dark notion about himself. but before you say i told you so to me, don't be so quick to embrace the cynicism that powers
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our president. democratic members of congress went down, they're there today. i hear a hearing is scheduled. calling out power to do their job and exposing need is not a pointless act. i argue it is the point of my job. if nothing else, you allow, you guys, you can listen, you can see what's wrong, and to our leaders who are looking for an opportunity, you can create one to do better. lord knows when it comes to handling the crisis on the border, anything that anyone gets done in government will be an improvement. so while some, like don, say step back, he's never going to do it, i say step up. i say we know that we can do better. he has to know he can do better and that's why i say let's get after it. as we see, with our fear-loving leader, left to their own devices, our elected leaders cannot be counted on to act as we would like. but here's my pitch to him
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again, i'm trying again. you already have all the people who bought into the fence out of fear of this brown menace. you need more. people care about these kids. they care about their families. show that you do too, and there's a win in it for you. how about that? thanks for watching. "cnn tonight" with d. lemon starts right now. >> did he go visit the kids? >> nope. >> oh, just checking. >> you feel good about yourself? >> no, i'm just telling you, i just -- i've just come to realize he's never going to change, he's not going to do -- it's great that you're so positive about it. i would love nothing more than for him to do that, but he's not going to do it, and it is a -- you keep wishing the same thing over and over, you know what that means. >> you don't have to throw the french at me. >> all right. >> what i'm saying is that even though i like polyanna, i like the books, i believe
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