tv Erin Burnett Out Front CNN April 8, 2019 4:00pm-5:00pm PDT
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>> to take over as the acting homeland security secretary. what should that mean to people watching the relationship with the president? >> well there was already someone to take over. instead the president has picked the commissioner of customs and border protection, someone he does not have a great relationship with. though he did travel with pruchlt to the border last week. i'm told president trump did notice him after he said essentially immigration
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enforcement was at a breaking point. now he also has some fans in the west wing especially in jared kushner. two people say jared kushner likes magdalene a lot. kevin is not seen as an some e idealoge. we should note the president hasn't nominated him to be the permanent secretary where he'd have to go through the confirmation process. so it's kind of going to be one of those wait and see things. the president will see whether he likes the job he's doing. >> i want to go straight now to democratic congressman thompson. i appreciate your time. obviously we're learning about the ranting and raving, these
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meetings, a policy the president wanted to expand. steven miller obviously we're learning quite central to all of of this. what do you think of his influence over the president right now? we're talking about 33-year-old stephen miller who was crucial in the travel ban and obviously a huge advocate of separating families at the border. well, it's nice to have young people around, but it's also nice to have people around who get it. these extreme views that mr. miller puts forward are not who we are as americans. so i think what weave to do is to say to the president, mr. president, we're a nation of laws. any time you try to make those laws out to be something than other than what they are, then you exactly have the chaos that we're having along the border now. >> so when we're reporting tonight that the president wants
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to expand the separating families at the border and in fact he wants to do that toallies that come in at legal ports of entry, families seeking asylum, do you think he has the right do to that, chairman >> well, absolutely. you know this family separation issue is what really brought all the conflict and chaos at the border to the forefront. the president has to follow the law. no one is above the law. the courts have determined that many of the policies he's trying to implement are absolutely illegal. the return to mexico policy, the muslim travel ban that he tried. a lot of things that we're involved in is simply because the president wants to have his way. but that's not -- >> do you think he's right on separating families? >> no, no question about it. why in god's green earth would be separate children from their
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families? we are a better country than that. and so to separate them and then not know where the parents are in many instances, we don't know who the children are, and so what i say to this administration, we have to get it right. you're doing absolute harm not to just the people who are trying to get here but to the value of what america means to the rest of the world. >> now, obviously this is something when the president started doing it was roundly criticized on both sides of the aisle. now we're hearing that what he's saying in some of these meetings which have been so tumultuous and ecplosive where he's been ranting and raving, he thinks it works. it will deter people from coming to the united states if you separate families. >> well, if you look at statistics it's having the opposite effect. and so what we have to do is to say, look, you can't cut off the state department, monies to the
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northern triangle countries. you can't meter people who are coming to the boarder. you can't have a return to mexico policy. all these thing vs have been created by this administration. this zero-tolerance thing, putting children in cages. all these things go against who we are as americans. our system of values is more than just that. >> so you do have some republicans speaking out tonight. chairman of the senate homeland security committee, your colleague republican senator ron johnson says i'm concerned with the leadership void, referring of course to nielsen. john cornyn telling cnn, quote, losing senior leadership that's bound to make the president's and administrations job harder not easier. is this enough or all talk and no action from your republican colleagues? >> well, principly all talk and no action. i'm surprised that they're
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saying anything. all the things that have occurred up to this point that has happened to children and all of that, most of my colleagues have been quiet. you can't run a department with over 220,000 employees with part time leadership. and now you're trying to put people in office that probably violate the law that congress has passed. so the president has to follow the law. if he wants to talk to democrats, come talk to us. you can just come right to capitol hill and we'll talk to you. >> you've said that kirsten nielsen was unable to lead and stand up to the president for his misguided wall obsessed anti-immigrant agenda. that's a quote from you. but we're learning that nielsen where she said exactly what he wantsed her to say when he wanted her to say it, she did push back at the president in these meetings. she said the law wouldn't allow
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it. maybe she might try to find work around within the law but she wanted to stay within the rule of law. she's gone. what if her replacement, her full replacement if there is one tries to cite the law? >> we have to have professionals. we are a nation of laws. so to put anybody other than a professional in that position is doing a disservice to the men and women who put their lives on the line every day. so i say to the president, don't send us a puppet to run the department of homeland security. send us a professional. >> all right, thank you very much. chairman, i appreciate your time tonight. and next attorney general bill barr about to testify before congress days before he's expected to release the mueller report. plus forget about being under audit. the white house now has a new reason trump's tax returns won't see the light of day. >> the public has no right to
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break news. just hours before attorney general bill barr we're learning how criticaldomes plan to be about his four page memo that he doesn't want us to call a summary on bob mueller's report. we have some experts coming into cnn. and the appropriations chair woman will say tomorrow, quote, i must say it's extraordinary to evaluate hundreds of pages of legal documents and findings and make definitive legal conclusions in less than 48 hours. even for someone who's done this job before i would argue it's more suspicious than empressive. out front now the former chief of the organized crime section âx a long time friend of r rosenstein who of course oversaw mueller. laura coats and austin evers. so, let me start with you. here we are. this is setting the tone for what this is going to be like tomorrow. what do you think about the
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point that the chair woman is going to make, it doesn't matter how experienced your, to take 48 hours to say i'm not going to charge the department of justice and coming out with summy he doesn't want us to call the summary and withlife othat went into 22 months and tens of thousands of pages is more suspicious or what do you say? >> that's a pretty thin gruel. the reality is this is not something that's been dropped on the attorney general. he's been supervising this and catching up with it. it's not like someone who has a 400-page book dropped on their lap and told give me a four page book report tomorrow morning. he had an idea of of what was coming, he gave a brief summary. it's an executive summary. we get them all the time. >> well, i got to correct you because apparently it's not a summary. but that's a separate issue. i'm saying it laughingly because oats an absurd thing. but laura, what do you think about the point the chairwoman is making?
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it certainly sets the tone what we're going to see from bill barr tomorrow. do you think there's anything more to the substance of it than james does? >> i don't think anyone is going to mention the word issue as barr does. >> the topic of the hearing is supposed to be about the budget and obviously you're saying it won't be. >> it's supposed to be but in reality it'll be about this. and remember while he did provide a 19 page version of it back in what december of last year when he was sending it to rod rosenstein and company. it took him 19 pages to talk about why he thought obstruction was unavailable or unattenable claim. you would think that an exhaustive comprehensive 19 page letter before you know the facts it does seem odd to devoted less than what, a page and a half to this issue. he probably has been up to speed over time but again it is a very quick turn around given the
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total information and all of the classified data he says is there. >> look, we're going to watch this and it's going to be kind of painful because he's going to say i can only say what i can say because the report isn't out, which he's supposedly putting out in the next few days. he repeatedly, austin, that is bill barr said he'll make as much information from the mueller report available consistent with the law, okay? that's obviously the crucial caveat. and the law according to barra has four areas where he would redact, which means we'll never see it. it'll be those big black polls through the page. grand jury material, information about ongoing investigations and information that could harm the privacy and reputations of peripheral players. so if this is before 300 and 400 pages, how many are we going to see if those are the four areas he's going to redact, austin? >> i think we go to his initial statement promising transparency and i think we need to hold him to that and i think congress
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will. if you look at those letters he's been reciting the basic outlines of what doj would normally with hold from congress. so i don't think we should take too much from that rezitation. at the end of the day i hope he redacts as little as possible, certainly with what he gives to congress. and anything he does redact he justifies line byline so congress and hopefully the public can litigate it. they can argue with the department of justice what the public interest requires in this case. if look at precedent, past special counsel, d.c. law and court, there's a lot weighing in favor of disclosure here and i think barr knows that. >> what are you saying, james? are we going to get 300 pages or 400, 30? is he going to justify any of the black mark outs? >> i think the distillation is going to be longer than what we see next. there's going to be a lot of redactions. it's going to be a joke to pretend there won't be because at the very least the federal procedure rule 6e is going to
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dictate that big chunks get taken out. really i think if there's a line or two out people are going to see what they want to see and say there's something wrong with it. >> right. >> but basically no matter what the state of these policy oriented redaction would be 6e requires a court order for release. and it's not really a grounds to say we really, really want to read this stuff. typically what happens the court releases it because there's a l litigant in play. that you're entitled to because you have to be able to assess that witness in front of the jury. that's a very different situation than just saying the public wants to see it. >> it is interesting, though, laura, because anything that is blacked out could be any of the above. basically what i'm getting at is are we going to know much more when we see this? you could say this is blacked out because of sources and methods or it's an ongoing investigation orates blacked out because it's a peripheral player
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and there never was anything to see here, right? are we really going to have any resolution when we see this? >> i think congress should ask for a set of redaction laws that does code in the way you're talking about to give some information whether it's classified. of course congress has already taken issue. there are more than sufficient parameters in place in congress to be able to view classified data without an issue. also there is a precedent that's been set by the gop just last year when they were able to view documents about ongoing sensitive things about this investigation. and also the idea that the grand jury testimony may be extensive but what we know from the actual reporting is that there were hundreds of voluntary informational witnesses and interviewa interviews as well. so there should be a lot of things to look at and chew on. and finally the idea of whether or not it'll be shown to the public is really the last piece of the puzzle. what congress can see and what we can see is the next of the
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battles. when that battle happens, chairman nadler of the house judiciary committee says he wants chairman nadler to testify. and nadler says i want to see the full report first. and there's that whole question, will congress see the full classified version. do you think congress will come to fight or not? >> i don't think so. people like bob mueller typically recognize that as part of public service. but i do think that bob mueller is at heart a prosecutor. he and bill barr share that. and i think he will be highly deferential to doj protocols and the decisions the attorney general makes about what gets disclosed about this report. which makes the first fight what congress gets to see in this report so important. if they cave on classified information or ongoing investigation information, i expect that mueller will also feel that he can't testify to that. so i think nadler needs to gear up, have a big fight over any redactions that are coming, hold bar to his commitment to
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testify, and be trance parent and hopefully by the time mueller takes that share, he will feel comfortable disclosing what he feels is in the public interest. and next, the white house now says the public has no right to see trump's tax returns. who cares what he promised, right? it's totally changed now. plus breaking news. another democratic entering the race for president, making it official. 18. it doesn't count people like biden and we'll tell you who jumps in tonight. next. ♪ ♪ ♪ the matters.ar... introducing the all-new 2019 ford ranger, it's the right gear. with a terrain management system for... this. a bash plate for... that. an electronic locking rear differential for...
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trump has no intention that any of us will ever see any of the president's tax returns. here's the deputy press secretary hogan giddily. >> the president has no right to see and congress definitely doesn't have the right to see the tax returns of a private citizen. but also think about the precedent that sets. >> so now it's about precedent and no one having a right. well, that is total change from one of the original excuses which is, under audit. >> is it time to say once and for all the president is never going to release his tax returns? >> we'll have to get back to you on that. no, i said i'd have to get back to you on that. i think he's still under audit and the statement still stands. >> as we've said many, many times before the president's taxes are still under audit. >> of course all president's taxes while they're president are under odded.
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the ones in the past we have no idea whether they were or wurnlt, certainly doesn't prevent him from releasing them if he wants to. but again, we have no idea if that's true. with this whole guess what, it's not rure right, maybe that's what we should have said to gen with. but the democrats are now fighting, and they're being nasty, giving the irs a wednesday deadline to give six years of trump's tax returns. this is a nasty fight. >> it is. and it's probably going to end up in court. beth sides gearing up for what could be a protracted legal fight that could run its way up potentially to the supreme court, could take months even years. we could get a sense of exactly how the administration plans to handle it this week tuesday and the treasury secretary steven mnuchin testifying before two separate house committees on wednesday. the irs commissioner coming before the senate committee. questions will undoubtedly come up how they plan to handle the
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tax returns. and we'll get a sense whether the commissioner does plan to hand over the tax returns by wednesday's deadline set by the chairman richard neil. there's no sense of movement from the white house. they're flat out rejecting this. they're saying the democrats don't have a right to it even as democrats point to a 1924 law that says that they do in fact, the ways and means chairman can absolutely request it. but this is largely untested in court and both sides seem to be willing and guarding what could be a long protracted battle. >> i want to go now to democratic congressman bill presco of the ways and means committee. congressman, thanks for being with me. so the white house says the public has no right. they're no longer coming up with the president says i really don't want to do it.
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that's all over. >> the president has nothing to do with this. the request was made to the irs not to the president of the united states. you don't say a letter to the presidentsying can i have your taxes? that is not how it works. the law is very specific. 6103 section f, the code, they should read it once in a while to know what the heck they're talking about. this is going to be determined by the irs, which has never turned down a request this way. the president is not above it law. i'm not above the law. none of us are. we want to know frints did the president pay his fair share of taxes? he's been audited so many times in the last 25 years we want to know what's happened. some of these audits wound up in fact taking him to court, taking his organization to court. >> that's true. and he was excoriated in those cases. but do you think given that he has been audited before, given that there's been plenty of questionable or problematic things in there, if it was
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anything hugely criminal or compromising from some other country, wouldn't be already know? >> well, no. what was usually when you do an audit, you're after a specific area of your tax returns. but this goes beyond your 1040. this is not a 1040 discussion. we're talking about his personal accounts. we're talking ability his business dealings. he has business dealings all over. we don't know what that's going to show. there may be nothing here, but what is he hiding? what are the republicans for over two years trying to defend the president when no one's accused oim-anything. we want to see what's in his tax returns. and we're not going to make it public. that also is very clear in the law. the republicans had no trouble and this is what burns my fanny. four years ago they went after -- if you remember they went after the head of the irs,
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elizabeth warner. you remember that? >> yes, i do remember that. >> and 50 individuals because they belonged to quote-unquote liberal groups to prove their point, their taxes -- their tax returns were audited. their tax returns were unfolded, their names, their business. and then what happened? nothing. nothing was found. nothing was illegal. what are they talking about? this is total hypocrisy. i asked the chairman when he was a republican, when the republicans were in charge in 2017 let's do this together so that it is nonpartisan. >> they don't want you all to be able to do this, it's a precedent. i understand it's also a precedent of public policy, and that is release your taxes. they've all done it.
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mitt romney's done it. but a precedent we're talking about now is different. that's you guys in congress can go out and just snatch someone's tax returns like the president. is that a different precedent that concerns you? >> yeah, the president has always thought that the presidency, the executive branch in government is in article 1, it's in article 2. we are article 1. this is checks and balances government. no one is above the law be it democrat or republican. this was done for democrats. this was done for republicans. this president is going to have to release his returns primarily because he's been audited, and that could be the beginning of other research. this is going to be, if you take this to court we're going to win. the law is on our side. >> all right, well, as we know there's a big fight coming up ahead of you. thank you so much, congressman.
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alarming new details tonight about that security breach at mar-a-lago. the chinese woman who was arrested for trying to enter trump's private club while carrying four cellphones and malicious software had even more devices in her hotel room. they said she had a device that was used to detect hidden cameras. she had another cellphone, and keep in mind four were mound on her. nine usb drivers, and that thumb drive. remember that thumb drive with the malicious software on it? a secret service agent says it began installing a file onto an agent's computer right after it was plugged in. the agent said it had never happened before and was, quote, very out of the ordinary. lisa, i mean this is pretty
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stunning details we're getting. there's no question this person was there to do something -- i mean, it cleary seems she was a spy. what do you think, spy? >> sure, absolutely. the question is spy for who and i don't mean in terms of chinese. i think it's clear she's working for the chinese. the division is is it government, corporate? nigh gut and the people i talk to my colleagues agree it's probably government. but, yeah, nobody has this kind of situation with this amount of malware and sim cards and phones and fake stories. it's very clear she was there to collect intelligence. >> and now we find, you know, these devices to detect hidden cameras we're learning about that secret service agents said they'd never encountered before. that all seems very scary and very sophisticated. obviously her behavior coming in didn't seem quite so much.
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how sophisticated do you think her operation was? >> from what we know today i'd say very sophisticated. and some of the clues we're going to really get information on is exactly that malware. once we really start analyzing that. but i think that the approach -- you know, we say it was maybe a little bumbling, but not really. it was appropriate for the venue she was there. she went in pretending not to speak english very well, but then as a secret service agent said she was able to understand very nuanced english. that's the word they used in the complaint. so i think it was well thought out. i don't think it was an error at all. i think it was very well thought out for the location she was. >> so prosecutors say she presented, and this is really, really important, an invitation from cindy yang. our viewers who don't remember that is she's the former massage
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parlor owner. she's accused of sell access to trump ievents, chinese clients and the former owner of the paw, you know, the one where bob kraft is now facing prostitution charges because of his activities there. do you -- when you put all these things together, do you think this is something bigger, a broader network? >> absolutely. she wasn't acting alone. there's no question about it. and as you said this really does raise questions about yang. and it also raises questions ability charles lee. and i think that what's we're going to see over the next couple of months is the fbi and the intelligence services starting to work together to piece this, who was getting what information, who was directing who. i think that she was there to collect intelligence. but i also would not be surprised to find out that there is a link between cindy yang and between other chinese, at least who were interested in getting information. >> wow, all right, lisa. thank you so much. >> you're welcome.
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>> and next, kamala harris, defending her response to was what one of her most controversial decisions as a new district attorney. and for the victim's family it was not enough. >> it felt like she had just taken something from us. she had just taken justice from us, from isaac. >> and jeanne moos on trump's acting cabinet, giving political theater a whole new meaning. [ engine revving ] flo needs help?! [ engine revving ] take me to her! ♪ coming, flo! why aren't we taking roads?! flo. [ horn honking ] -oh. you made it. do you have change for a dollar? -this was the emergency? [ engine revving ] yes, i was busy! -24-hour roadside assistance. from america's number-one motorcycle insurer. -you know, i think you're my best friend. you don't have to say i'm your best friend. that's okay.
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breaking news. congressman eric swalwell of california running for president. making his announcement on the late show with stephen colbert. >> i see a country in quicksand. unable to solve problems from threats from abroad, i'm ready to solve these problems. i'm running for president of the united states. it's official. >> now it's official. >> swalwell is now the 18th candidate to join the democratic primary field. by the way buttigieg counts in there. but biden or bennett or stacey abrams or anyone else who may jump in none of them are in there, so you're now at 18.
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it's huge. swalwell is not the only candidate making news today. senator kamala harris one topic following her on the campaign trail is her record as a prosecutor. this is the decision she made as a young district attorney and it could well come back to haunt her. kyung lah is out front. >> my little girl. >> reporter: isaac espenoza, young father, devoted husband. and san francisco police officer until his end of watch april 10, 2004. >> his captain comes over and i'm just sitting there, and he hands me his star. i remember i walk into this room and he still had blood here. he was laying there with his eyes closed and i saw the blood here, and i walked over to him and i was just like wake up.
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>> just 29 ezpunosa was gunned down with an ak 47 by a 21-year-old gang member. a new district attorney had just been elected in san francisco. kamala harris, her first elected position. three days after officer espenoza's death harris held a news conference pledging to keep a campaign promise, no death penalty. >> in san francisco it is the will, i believe, of a majority of people that the most severe crimes be met with the most severe consequences and that life without possibility of parole is a severe consequence. >> i felt like she had just taken something from us. she had just taken justice from us, from isaac. >> did she call you? >> no, she never called me. i just don't understand how or why she should -- you can't even wait until he's buried. you can't even wait to talk to the family. you can't just wait and, you
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know, have some compassion and check in on the family? >> and i'm standing there and i'm going, oh, my god. >> the man standing next to harris was the president of the san francisco police officer's association at the time. >> you're thinking to yourself okay, what would her motives be to do this so soon after the death? >> the political blow back for harris was enormous. at espenoza's funeral as harris sat in the pews u.s. senator diane feinstein rebuked the da for not seeking the death penalty. the hundreds of officers gave feinstein a standing ovation. do you give harris any credit for sticking to her beliefs?
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>> she was in a stuff espinoza kamala harris a letter. years passed. the family says harris never responded. they say they only had one face-to-face meeting with harris arranged by an assistant district attorney. >> she never reached out to me. never came over and said i'm sorry for your loss. never nothing. nothing. >> why do you as a victim of crime need the district attorney to say those things? >> because it makes me feel like, okay, you honestly do care about what happens. and not only that, but it shows that your compassionate, that you have feelings. it's -- losing somebody and having somebody that is going to fight for justice, come up to you and say i'm sorry for your
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loss. >> the fact that officer espinoza was killed in the line of duty is an absolute tragedy. >> reporter: on the campaign trail harris would not answer why she did not personally reach out to the family, but says someone from her office did. >> we reached out to the family. we reached out to the family. we always did and we did in that case as well, and offered all of the support that our office was able to give the family. >> reporter: and defended her handling of the case. >> i did not ask for permission to make my decision. >> reporter: officer espinoza's murderer, david hill, was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole. >> why is that important to know as president of the united states how she treated you? >> you're going to be president of the united states. that's a lot. are you going to show compassion? are you going to be for the people? are you going to be for yourself? are you really being you? >> senator harris will say about
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her handling of the news conference in the espinoza case, quote, maybe it was just a political novice mistake.ne fei delivered that rebuke her at the funeral would reverse her decision on the death penalty. she no longer supports it. >> maybe it's not the policy but the handling of the whole situation. we'll see how that story is perceived on the campaign trail. thank you. next, jeanne moos on the temporary title that's become a permanent fixture at the white house. >> i like acting because i can move so quickly. >> well, i'm in no hurry, i have acting. other spavoid pain and struggle. we actually... seek it out. other species do difficult things because they have to. we do difficult things. because we like to. we think it's... fun. introducing the all-new 2019 ford ranger
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these trump administration officials have in common? >> acting. >> acting. >> whether they're acting or whether they're not acting. >> reporter: a temporary word has become a permanent fixture in the trump administration. as "the washington post" columnist tweeted, number of cabinet members who will now be acting lends new meaning to the term political theater. or how about being asked to write a sad story using only three words, acting cabinet official. cartoonist ed hall drew a line of acting officials ending in the man acting as president. there's no bigger fan of acting than the director of this production. he gives the acting rave reviews. >> it's easier to make moves when they're acting. >> my actings are doing really great. >> i like acting because i can move so quickly. >> well, i'm in no hurry, i have acting. >> reporter: in no hurry to have nominees grilled in confirmation hearings perhaps. something an acting doesn't have to endure until nominated for
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the actual position. and who wants to go through what acting interior secretary david bernhart did when a masked swamp creature popped up behind him and stayed. >> i catch my breath. >> reporter: and stayed. >> because -- >> reporter: and stayed. stayed even if only one eye remained visible or only its bald head. until capitol police escorted all masked protesters out. it's hard to take promises to drain the swamp with a straight face. when confronted by the creature from the black lagoon, no wonders the president enjoys temporary cabinet members. easier to throw them overboard. >> i sort of like acting. it gives me more flexibility. i like acting. >> reporter: if he likes acting, maybe he'd consider you know who for his next acting cabinet secretary opening. jeanne moos, cnn, new york.
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and thank you so much for joining us. don't forget you can watch why the outfront any time anywhere, just go to cnn go. "acc 360" starts with anderson right now. good evening. it's quite a day when milt sources say the president of the united states told border agents to break the law. that's just color in a larger story. we appear to be in the middle of what one senior official tells cn nervous syst cnn is a near purge of the department of homeland security. kirstjen nielsen is out. her deputy has been bypassed by the naming of an acting successor. the director of the secret service, which is part of dhs, has also been fired. two officials telling "the new york times" the president had been making fun of him lately, calling him dumbo because of the size of his ears. consider that for a second. the president of the united states is reportedly making fun of a man charged with
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