give his successor on how to handle the trump administration, he said, quote, i think i'd prefer somebody who doesn't have heart problems. joining us -- join us at 11:00 p.m. another live edition of "ac 360." chris. >> i am chris cuomo and welcome to "primetime." from total exoneration to total bs. president trump continues to attack everything and everyone that threatens to expose his perfety. he he wants revenge, threatening to bring justice to the people involved in the report. what does that threat mean? and what does this report mean for him? we'll take it up in cuomo's court. if impeachment is not realistic, what's next? democrats are all over the place, so let's try to pin them down. my guest tonight a democrat on the powerful intel house committee. last night rudy giuliani told me to stop using the word "lie."

the president can't stop lying and the attorney general misled you. i will take the evidence from the mueller report and cut through two years of spin from team trump. it's good friday. it's the start of passover. may all observing be blessed. let's get after it. so look, the big question is do things get better or worse from here? this president seems to seek to destroy the people and places that pointed out his perfety, bad faith, lying, the facts. he tweeted this. it's now finally time to turn the tables and bring justice to some very sick and dangerous people who have committed very serious crimes, perhaps even spying or treason. now, the opposite objective is what democrats are wrestling with today. you had senator lelizabeth warrn this afternoon calling for impeachment proceedings. he said mueller put the next step in the hands of congress.

the correct process for exercising that authority is impeachment. later today, rashida tlaib's office told cnn fellow freshman ill has been omar and ayana presley will sign on to her impeachment resolution. most democrats, way more reluctant certainly to make a move with that kind of reality. so where are we headed and why? sean patrick maloney sits on house intel. it's good to see you. the best for easter. blessed rebirth and renewal for you and your family. >> thank you. and for those watching, it's a beautiful season of family and i hope everyone is enjoying it with the ones they love. >> and you know what, i think mr. barr released this report hoping it would get lost in the occasion, but i think it is the perfect occasion given what we focus on and they think about to examine what we have learned in this report. but now let's talk about the political realities. i don't understand where you guys are.

oversight, we have to look, we're going to look, we want to get through the redacted material, fair point. then what? >> look, i'm not one of those people saying we can't form an opinion about this. i've got one. but there's not going to be one opinion. we're not some central committee. there's going to be a bunch of different views on this. here's mine. i want the president held accountable and i want that done in the best way. i'm not sold that impeachment is the best way but i'm not letting up on him. i want to beat him in 2020, i want to beat him badly. i want him held accountable legal legally. if there's criminal liability iet it investigated by the southern district or elsewhere. that can continue past his presidency, by the way, the trump organization as well. i want the president held accountable. but i want to be smart about it and tough. i want us to use our whole brains and to weigh all the options. >> the desire for the redacted material, i get it. a lot of it is on the counterintel side, may explain something about the president's feelings about russia, his

leniency in terms of his language with putin. but it can't be a smoking gun, otherwise there would have been some action taken by mueller on the same, no? >> yeah, look, it's important that we listen to what bob mueller is telling us. i think what he's telling us is that there's no prosecutable underlying crime of conspiracy. that's very important news. and that does put the other conduct in a certain conduct -- context, excuse me. but the president's conduct is appalling, and it is inexcusable. he must be held accountable for that. but i want to play chess, not checkers. i want to do it in a way that's good for us, not that plays into his hands. and i do think we've got more questions to ask for sure. we've got an oversight responsibility, that's right. there's more to do here. but i do think on the big question how to hold this president accountable, put a stake in the ground for what matters, integrity, honesty, you know, not obstructing federal investigations, not acting like this is something to celebrate when this is chapter and verse

detailing everything that's wrong with this president, but our response is critical because there's a lot at stake in 2020 and i want to win. >> so, look, impeachment to see only seems feasible if you get something you want very much and something you probably want nothing less than this, which is he'd have to win in 2020 and you'd have to take so many seats in the senate that you'd have a shot at impeachment and removal. so you probably don't like that trade. but what i'm saying is i totally get what you're saying. i think it's silly for people to say the democrats can't talk about how to hold him accountable. you've got to be afraid of impeachment because it doesn't poll well. maybe if you show you're willing to talk about something, maybe you get some points for integrity and having a message that says what your party is about. what about that? >> yeah, it's possible. i wouldn't bet the mortgage on it. i think people are pretty sick of this whole subject. i don't think it has a lot to do with what is important in most people's lives. those of us who do this for a

living, who watch these shows every night and talk about this all day long, need to have some perspective on what is most important to the people we represent and who we want to help. where we want to take the country. what i'm telling you is if i thought impeachment had any prayer of resulting in accountability, meaning removal from office, then i'd be up here championing it. there's not one republican senator, let alone 20 that come out with any room on that. so what are we talking about? what i'm talking about is how do we hold the president accountable and how do we win it? and that to me looks like we win this election and fight it out on the issues most important to the people who we hope to lead. >> i'm glad you said that. we both hear the sounding of silence and that's the republicans saying they're disgusted by what's in the report. they're afraid of this president and he punishes them in their primaries. so they have made their bed. my concern on your side is testing the idea of how do you beat him? i keep hearing from democrats in power, we can walk and chew gum

at the same time. we can do this and we can -- but i don't see you getting anything else done. you're not even happening what's happening at the border where i see clear opportunity for you guys. you need to show that you moved the ball in order to people to believe you're better. >> in fairness, the house has been pretty productive. we're talking about violence against women act, hr-1, corruption in government, universal background checks. we will move a major infrastructure package, i will predict to you, and that can become law. we have passed the most important criminal justice reform, the first step act, working in a bipartisan way with this president in just the last few months. the fact is, is that we can still get some things done while we also approach the 2020 election, which is the core of our democracy, right? the future of our country, putting it out on the table for the people we want to lead. we put our best argument forward. i'm not sure driving the country through impeachment when there's no underlying criminal conspiracy according to bob

mueller will be effective or get us inanywhere. i'm not ruling it out or closing the door, but i think this is going to be about the election in 2020 and we better put that best foot forward. >> isn't that best foot going to be health care? showing that you have a plan that you pushed through the house and denied by the senate and shows a cost structure and shows there was hope for what you had in place before? >> our best foot is saying we can make this work better for all of us, not just a few of us. that we've got some real ideas. we can make this government work again. we're not just going to have political and partisan conversations until the cows come home, we're going to build roads and bridges and broadband systems and better airports and better climate for our kids and we can provide better health care at lower costs. we've got good ideas on that. yes. these are the things that matter to the middle class family making $40,000 a year in orange county, new york, the people i

hear from every day. i want to talk to them about that, not just about what's in the mueller report or what's wrong with trump. but i want the president held accountable. i'm not giving up that side of the street. >> i just don't know what that means. >> well, what it means is there's a couple of ways to do it. we can spend two years doing impeachment and that will put a stake in the ground, you bet. i don't think we're going to win it, but we can make a point and that might be the right thing to do. i understand people who say that. i'm not recommending it. there's another way, which is criminal liability and that may yet come to bear when the president is out of office. and the third way is to hold him accountable at the polls, to beat him and beat him big. so we send a message that this conduct and this kind of leadership is not what we're about as americans and we're going to go in a different direction. and that, i think, is the best way to send a message. the worst thing we can do to donald trump is to beat him big in 2020. i want to be smart about how we approach the next few months. >> congressman, appreciate the candor, appreciate you being with us on good friday. i know that this is not an easy

sell to the family, so thank you for taking the opportunity. it matters. >> thank you, sir. >> all right. so that's where the democrats' heads are. you're going hear different takes. they'll have to figure out and get on the same page. if they're thinking about how to win in 2020, that may be their best bet but may not feel the best right now. sources close to attorney general bill barr say he's not in the pocket of the president. let's do this. you judge that proposition after i show you what he has said and done in this process. and, you know, there is a part that we still haven't seen that i was just talking about with the congressman. what is behind mr. barr's black bars? the redactions largely in the counterintelligence portion. could there be an answer in there into why potus plays so nice with putin? let's take it up in cuomo's court, ahead. ♪

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from me before but it bears repeating. it's shorthand for potential bad behavior. mueller doesn't even use the word because he says, he actually goes into it. he was looking for crimes. collusion is not a crime. nor is it a term lawyers use. why did the a.g. use it? because he's playing trump's game. that's also why mr. barr cher cherry-picked this lie. >> investigation did not establish that members of the trump campaign conspired or coordinated with the russian government in its election interference activities. >> now, that is true, and it cleared the president and his campaign of criminal conspiracy. but context is key. mr. barr ignored the first half of the line. the investigation also identified numerous links between the russian government and the trump campaign, and this line, the campaign expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through russian efforts.

to that point, contacts to try to benefit. those would be collusion, and mueller found plenty. many of the same acts were lied about repeatedly. on obstruction, barr's four-page letter made it seem like this was a close call. instead we get into exhaustive detail of various attempts to mess with the investigation, get people to lie, and fire mueller himself. the report says if investigators had anything that could clear potus, they would so state. the a.g. doubled down on this theory, that the president might somehow be immune to the law on this issue. listen. >> the special counsel's report goes on to consider whether certain actions of the president could amount to obstruction. >> no, that's what he wants to consider. the report is clear in a different way. the constitution does not immunize a president from

obstructing justice. instead, what were mueller's hands tied by? rules from the department of justice's office of legal counsel against indicting a sitting president. something that mr. barr repeatedly tried to downplay. >> he was not saying that but for the olc opinion he would have found a crime. >> that can't be less accurate. page 1 of the mueller report says point blank, this office accepted olc's legal conclusion for the purpose of exercising prosecutorial jurisdiction. what does that mean when you strip out the lawyer speak? mueller knew he couldn't indict the president. he went into this knowing he couldn't indict a president. also, the a.g. bent over backwards to pat his boss on the back for being transparent. >> the white house fully cooperated with the special counsel's investigation.

>> now, he is saying that because it would make it harder, therefore, to subpoena the president under what is believed to be controlling precedent. but how do you say he fully cooperated when the president said i don't remember one way or another 30 times in just ten pages of written answers. answers, by the way, that mr. mueller called inadequate. fully cooperating doesn't sound like refusing to sit for an interview, which this president did. now, as for where we go from here, mr. barr says -- >> special counsel mueller did not indicate that his purpose was to leave the decision to congress. >> then why did mr. mueller say, quote, congress may apply the obstruction laws to the president's corrupt exercise of the powers of office according with our constitutional system of checks and balances and the principle that no person is above the law. the attorney general showed his no-holds barred style in trying to defend this president,

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probe. but these are uncommon times and mr. barr, we get what his agenda is. okay. so when we look at what we think there is there, mr. goodman, do you expect that there are issues of this investigation, this probe, this counterintelligence effort, starting as rotten? >> not really. in some sense the mueller report already kind of indicates to us what the origins of the investigation were and it was national security advisor george papadopoulos having been approached by the russians and then revealing that information to a foreign government. that's what then led to the information being fed into the fbi and they launched the investigation. so i don't think anything in terms of the origins of this are going to spark anything. the idea that carter page was some precursor of this is a deep problem for them. cnn reported as well as other news networks that carter page was already under a fisa warrant in 2013-14. there's no there, there as far

as we know but if there's an i.g. looking after it, that's a potentially good process. but not to politicize it with the a.g. stepping in with already suggesting that he has preconceived ideas about it. >> miss hennessey say it's the dossier, that's what this was. hillary clinton paid some people to go and play with russian sources and get a bunch of poison against trump and that's what they used, that's what started it, and they weren't honest with the fisa judges about it and it will all become clear when the fisa application is revealed. do you believe it? >> i think that the one thing that the mueller report is a pretty thorough investigation of is that this was a properly predicated investigation from the beginning. this was an investigation not into the trump campaign, this was an investigation into russia. this is an investigation that established a conspiracy on the russian side. to the extent that it ever looks at the trump campaign, it was only because that campaign was

the target or the subject of those efforts and because they were so receptive to it. and so i do think that the report itself lays out with quite a bit of detail and should put to rest the notion that a dossier or anything untoward sort of made the basis of why this investigation was opened in the first place. >> so you have the substance and then you have the players. phil mudd, comey didn't like the president, mccabe, he's got that wife who's a democrat, strzok and page, they're part of the deep state. they're probably meeting in your basement playing dungeons and dragons. you're all out to get him because you're all democrats. >> we're missing a point here. we're confusing what we see as investigators. i would agree with what everybody said here, with what will happen politically. let me give you one specific example and this is only a judgment, it's not a fact. there's going to be an investigation. there is an investigation, i think, into the legitimacy of the carter page fisa. something we heard about a couple years ago that was

significant. if you look at the report, the carter page fisa was not significant in the report. i'm going to predict, though, chris, that the inspector general says that some of the intelligence activities, like the carter page fisa, were not that well done. that's going to then become for republicans, look, this was all predicated on bad stuff, forgetting that none of it was the basis of the report. the i.g. is going to come after some of this. that's going to become the center of a political debate. i don't think it's significant, but it will be. >> phil, help me understand this. you and many others, and we joke, but you know how much i respect and i trust your judgment on these things, have said you know how hard it is to get a fisa application? they keep calling it a secret court. do you know how many layers you have to go through? fisa applications are as thick as my huge pinata head and it's gauze you have to have such great documentation. they didn't even have the original one on page, they had subsequent ones so it had to be a massive conspiracy. is what you're saying true or what you're saying now true that

they could have botched it? >> if you are looking at an investigation with thousands of pages of documents, think of it when the irs looks at any tax raurn return and says, look, on page 36 we've got a mistake here. i'm not suggesting there's a conspiracy. i'm suggesting that in the look to the origins of some of these efforts by the department of justice, the fbi, the inspector general will find ugly stuff and the white house will say look, we told you all along, this was dirty. and then you look at what happened in the report and none of that stuff will be significant in the report, it doesn't matter, the white house will play it up. >> so miss hennessey in terms of this type of review, we're waiting on the i.g. but mr. barr says there was spying. the president wants to go after the investigators. what do you see as likely potential steps? >> i think attorney general barr's comments were pretty shockingly irresponsible. >> especially for a by-the-book guy. >> exactly, and in front of

congressional testimony to use this term with the s"spying" an walk it back and say he was talking about unauthorized surveillance, maybe just ordinary investigative techniques, it's hard to believe that somebody as sophisticated and experienced as bill barr is didn't understand that by using that loaded term, a term that lawyers do not use, people within the justice department do not use, that what he was doing was fueling a set of conspiracy theories. to the extent there was any question about whether or not attorney general barr sort of views himself as the chief law enforcement officer of the united states or the president's personal attorney, i think those questions are pretty definitively put to rest by his performance at that press conference yesterday morning. >> two more quick things. mr. goodman, one of the most surprising things to me in looking at the report where i didn't know there were this many other cases that had been referred and we don't know what they are, do you have anything that you can kind of glean from

what may have been farmed out and what it may involve in terms of are we thinking about the president, are we thinking about people around him or is this about russia and other satellite organizations that got caught up in this? >> it's difficult to know, it's really in the realm of speculation. there's one thing that we can think about. there's a bit of a preface to the list of blacked-out referred cases. the preface says that the special counsel referred these cases out because they did not fit within the scope of his jurisdiction. >> right. >> so there's some speculation could be shot down. some think it must be jerome corsi, because how could he walk free after he entered into a plea agreement which suggested that the prosecutors were already primed to indict him. maybe it's him. but jerome corsi fit within the four corners of the jurisdiction of the special counsel so that's why it's hard to predict or speculate about it. it wouldn't be anything you would think would be russia related and it might be things like michael cohen with hush

money payments. that's one of them that's not redacted. >> phil, you have a much better eye for this than i ever will. i was trying to figure out what the redactions may be about. there was a significant amount of russia talk going on in there obviously, how they're the main ma malefactor in all of this. in terms of what has redacted, what do you want to settle as the level of expectation if we finding out what it is? >> i don't think it will change judgments. a lot of redactions relate to the fact that the president talks about and his team talks about this is obama's fault. we heard in last midterms that the russians are still meddling. there's a counterintelligence investigation. that's redacted in the report. there's private information about u.s. citizens who should not be public in the report. that's redacted. there's ongoing investigations like roger stone. but the stuff about russia and the fact that they're still intervening in the u.s. electoral process, that's a lot of the blackouts because the investigation is ongoing and they'll do it again next year.

you can't reveal what you know because they're still doing it. >> two quick things to clean up for me, phil. the idea from rudy giuliani is the president isn't denying russian interference, he just has a difference of opinion. he may know things that you don't. your take. >> excuse me, can you explain to me how many times the president in his role as the speaker of the american people has told us how we have to be cautious in looking at social media information before an election? you fault president obama for not doing enough and you can't speak once in two and a half years about how we need to protect ourselves against russian interference? you tell me, chris. he's the spokesperson in chief. he says nothing. >> mr. barr, talking to some of the people around him now, they're saying, hey, go easy on barr. this was about whether or not the president committed crimes. he didn't commit crimes. mueller couldn't make the call. it's a no-brainer that he couldn't obstruct justice, because he's president and you can't indict him anyway. this is just about cleaning this up and moving the country on. >> i trusted this guy and now i question what i said on cnn and

to my friends in person. let me give you one specific example. his repeated focus on cooperation by the white house. cooperation. how many lies do we have here? manafort, cohen, flynn, convicted of lying. we had sarah sanders, not significant, admit she lied repeatedly, which she called a slip of the tongue. the president, he didn't cooperate for a year plus. he said let me talk. he told us publicly he wanted to talk. he didn't. the report specifically talks about evidence that was eliminated, erased, for example, from hard drives by people who didn't want to see investigators read it, and that's cooperation? why did he say that? why did barr sacrifice his integrity? he didn't have to. why? i don't understand it, chris. >> sarah sanders said slip of the tongue. tongue can't slip it that much if you were using it as a zambo zamboni. miss hennessey, we just laid out all the contradictions. it is pretty clear mr. barr gave a representation of what we would see in the probe that

didn't match up with the actual matters asserted. why did he do that and what do you take from it? >> yeah, look, barr's statements may have been technically accurate in a very narrow sense but they were unbelievably misleading and he had to have known that the report was going to come out just a few hours later and everybody was going to see it. i think that does raise sort of the specter that what he was doing was attempting to get out and shape a narrative early. the more that you read sort of particularly the obstruction section that mueller lays out, it's quite clear mueller says that the president cannot be indicted, but that he can commit this crime of obstruction of justice. in at least a few instances he walks through 10 separate episodes. some of those he says quite specifically it meets every single statutory element of the offense. he refutes any possible rebuttals to that or defenses to that. the only thing he doesn't do is

have that final statement and, therefore, the president has committed a crime paubecause he doesn't want to accuse the president of committing a crime, because the president cannot be indicted and is not going to be able to defend himself. so it's quite clear that the olc decision that the president cannot be indicted was essentially the most -- the single-most significant animating feature to mueller deciding not to render that judgment. and so for barr to come out so strongly in saying that mueller did not rely on that in forming his opinion, it really does read as close to a lie as one can possibly get. >> it is literally on page one of the mueller report that, hey, look, in layman speak, i can't indict this guy so we're going into this knowing i can't do this to a president. you three are very generous to be with me on such a special night for so many people across the country. thank you 2for doing it, phil mudd, remember the ugly rash you

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at theexplorercard.com. so what do we know about what we can expect from the democrats at this stage of their kind of vetting for 2020? we know that the democrats see the mueller report as damning, pointing to trump's lies and all the ways this president tried to subvert the investigation by pressuring those around him. but the party is of a mixed mind about what to do with this information, how to shape it into what they want their message to be. so let's discuss that with one of the young, bright lights, andrew gillum. good to see you, sir. >> hey, chris.

man, you must be on hour 40 of being on the air. you've been doing a terrific job and appreciate you sticking through it. >> thank you. that's why i look like me and you look like you, because one of us is getting sleep and the other is me. so i wish you a blessed easter for you and the family. i don't know -- >> thank you so much. you too. >> -- if you heard with sean patrick maloney. i get the outrage of this 100%. i just don't know what you do with it because we see in polls the american people are not on tenter hooks about whether the president will be impeached. the polls are much higher on what you'll vote about on other topics than this. so what do you do? >> well, i mean in all honesty, you get elected to congress, a co-equal branch of the united states government, not to do the bidding, not to get there and do always what it is that is popular but to do your job, your

constitutional duty. and so this idea of sort of playing and gaming the politics of it, i understand, we want to get rid of donald trump in 2020. but the truth is, is this man ran around the country running for president saying he wanted to put hillary clinton in jail. and what we're simply saying is that we would want our members of congress to follow the constitution, execute it to its fullest extent. he's already demonstrated he has obstructed justice in this investigation, and quite frankly that's cause enough for impeachment. >> but if you go down that road, you don't get the removal because you don't have the numbers and we don't see consensus. let's just be a little cynical for a moment. politicians have a tendency to act out of consequence more than good conscience. if there's not that motivation on the right, you shouldn't expect consensus. so can you win in 2020 if the thing that people have heard most from your party is the functional equivalent of lock her up, which is throw him out.

>> well, listen, donald trump is not a threat just for the next two years. and beyond. donald trump is a threat to democracy. so we know that the president breaks the law. he breaks his constitutional oath. but we're going to sit this one out because we may have some fear or trepidation around what it means for the outcome of an individual election. listen, 50% of the people who are registered in this country aren't voting. those folks haven't heard a voice. they haven't seen the champion that will move them to action, move them from the couch to voting in these elections. i think we leave too much on the field with a bunch of political calculations that don't reflect honesty and trust and faithfulness to their duty and to their responsibilities to the american people. not just to an individual election cycle. >> so do you think that senator warren played it right saying today i think he should be impeached and we should go down that road?

>> i would say anyone who is speaking up and looking seriously at what their job and their responsibility is, they can't help but draw that conclusion. and i don't mean just for democrats, i also mean for republicans. if you run to be patriots to your country, you take an oath to the job that you're there to do and you cower from the task. >> but you have to look at from it their perspective. you don't even have a felony, you don't even have an indictment. yes, high crime and miss dmoode is a nonexistent legal thing but they have better clearance from the mueller report than the president did frankly in thames of what it means. >> well, you've reported about this. mueller did his part of the job, followed guidelines of the department around whether or not a president can be indicted and

delivered what he could by way of the facts that were made available to him. >> right. >> which at least on ten separate occasions in my opinion would come -- would reach that standard. >> right. now, the big news of potential next week. let's say that joe biden, former vice president, gets into the race. how big a change? >> i mean we've been watching for him for a long time, chris. i think very few, if anybody, will be surprised with regard to his entry. but there are a lot of people that have been waiting for joe biden to enter this race. we're all watching to see is this going to be the scrappy, scranton, pennsylvania, joe biden that gets out there, tells the truth, speaks like it is, but will also cast a big vision for the future. will also introduce policies that are moon shots to some extent and inspire a generation of people who want to believe in

him. >> is that eloquent gillum speech moved to the left? >> no. >> it's a little bit of gillum speak, you've got to move to the left. moon shot? that means move to the left. >> i just mean he's got to make sure that he's showing he's up with the times, that he recognizes the democratic party that he wants to lead and is willing to lean into that in a way that allows for those voices throughout the party and a sizeable constituency within the party to be heard. >> move to the left. >> move closer to me. >> andrew, you have done such good work in establishing that you understood where your party would be in a state that was never supposed to be even close to accepting you in that florida governor's race. i was wrong about you during that primary. i didn't think what you were doing on the ground would resonate against the money that you were against and the networks of contacts they had. i was wrong.

i trust you when you say you think you know where your party is. so we'll see. >> listen, i came closer than any democrat in 24 years. i don't hold it against you that you didn't believe. but the truth is, that i ran and i was one of the first out saying that we needed to impeach donald trump. >> you've been strong on i, you've been consistent. let's see how the field follows that advice. be well, mr. gillum. blessed easter for your family. it's a night heavy with meaning for millions of americans. and the a.g. was hoping that that mueller report would be lost in our observance. but i argue the timing for the release was perfect, next. ♪[upbeat music]

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about it. this was never going to be decided in a court of law, even mueller knew that. and said as much on page 1. this is about you and what your representatives demand from here. this president is not a russian agent, according to mr. mueller. good. his campaign was not part of russia's massive efforts to mess with our election. good. but they did collude. read the report. mueller explains he doesn't even use the word. why? he was looking for crimes. but if you want to talk bad behavior, what collusion can be, he spent 100 plus pages laying out facts of the same. be clear. this campaign did sneaky things that they knew they shouldn't and the proof is that they lied about the same, repeatedly, all the way up to the president, repeatedly calling fake what you now know was all too real. he lied to you about his business. about his payoffs. about his efforts to obstruct.

about his efforts to get the fruit of russian interference. about what people around him did and what he knew about what they did. how has he handled it? as expected. first, he expected the report as good. because he wasn't being charged with a crime. but as the other aspects have come out, he says total b.s., he may not be a felon, and i say may because it's pretty clear. mr. mueller believes that if he weren't president his actions were actionable under law. but he's not acted like a man of integrity or a leader. you can't read the report and think he has behaved as we should want. so what? too many of you will shrug, not because you like what he did but because you just don't expect any better. i get it. i'm 48. i've been steeped in the best and worst of politics since i was 7. i was raised by a man who believed serving his state meant being his best, a three-term governor.

people didn't agree with everything he did. he had his fights and his weaknesses but he was a man of integrity. he told people the truth and he did not try to multiply his support by dividing people. there are others like him in public service. but the culture has changed. we reward the wrong things and we have stopped demanding better. my argument is that with the mueller report we should make a change. we cannot allow criminality to be the bar for acceptable conduct. we can't tolerate anyone, democrat, republican, who abuse the truth and condemn any that call them out for the same. service is about doing for others not serving yourself. and yes, this applies to this president. he tried like hell to mess with the search for truth because he didn't like where the answers may lead and what they may mean to him. so now what? all this talk about impeachment, i don't see that as a realistic outcome. the democrats would have to win the senate in the next election,

to even have a chance of removing this president if they were to win again. they can and should dig. they should demonstrate the depths of deception. but ultimately this has to be about you and what you demand. ironically, as i said, mr. barr released this report, i believe, to let it get lost in our vacations and holy days but i think the timing is perfect. this is the time we get with family. we get deep. we examine articles of faith. and i argue it is the time to do the same about our politics. as i said christians define this time as about rebirth and renewal. so let's do that. when it comes to our political culture. let's think about wanting the best from these men and women, picking the best of these men and women, surrendering nothing of value to us as we weigh in on other aspects of our life. don't have the person you vote for be someone that you wouldn't want at your dinner table, that you wouldn't want around your

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