just started killing people and so many remain injured right now. our hearts go out to them. will ripley continue to be safe there. be careful. there could be more we're hearing potentially on the way. erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. "outfront" next breaking news. the white house ignoring tonight's delinquent tor turn over trump's taxes. and now democrats about to make their next move in the high stakes showdown. plus jared kushner making a stunning claim, suggesting mueller's investigation was more damaging nan russia's attack on the 2016 election. and the. 's twitter tie raid, more than 50 tweets in less than 48 hours. what is going on inside the white house? let's go "outfront." good evening i'm erica hill in for erin burnett. outfront tonight" tonight the administration says no, the

administration missing a deadline to turn over the tax returns of the president to congress. the treasury secretary steve mnuchin telling democrats he is consulting the justice department do term if the demand is legal. in response the democrats upping the ante. saying the house ways and mean committee to prepared to subpoena the returns if the white house doesn't comply. and in of course just the latest salvo in the battle over congressional oversight. the white house doing all it can to stone wall democrats's investigations. as lawmakers push back. house oversight kmierm kmarm elijah cummings announcing he is prepared to hold a former administration official in contempt over security clearances. now that official refusing to appear on orders from the white house. all of has democratics issue yet another subpoena for the president's financial records. the president trying to stop that by filing a lawsuit. and new this afternoon, is the white house trying to stop former white house counsel don mcgahn from testifying before

the house judiciary committee? >> on don mcgahn to respond to that subpoena to testify before congress. >> that's up to the attorneys. >> is executive privilege considered here in the house. >> again that's up to the attorneys. >> in same attorneys who told that administration official not to appear. perhaps if it was up to the president things would be different. this is what he had promised just a few weeks ago. >> mr. president, are you going to cooperate with mr. nadler? i cooperate all the time with everybody. >> a pledge to cooperate. and yet the actions of the president and the white house tell a different story. katlyn colins is outfront live outside the white house. stonewalling seems to be a major part of the strategy there. >> yeah, today the white house is essentially testing the power of congress. in in letter mnuchin is pushing the deadline to may the 6th on whether or not to decide to release the president's taxes because he says he is waiting on

legal conclusions from the justice department. but if you read this letter that he sent to the house ways and means committee today, it does not sound -- or it does sound like he is laying the groundwork to deny the request. he cited legal concerns, constitutional requirements, and also the reason the people who want the president's taxes want them. in addition to the letter citing several democrats saying they are seeking the president's tax returns and essentially the treasury secretary is expressing concern that these democrats only want the president's tax returns for political purposes. so watch to see what happens by may the 6th. but erica it doesn't sound likely they will do it. that comes amid what we see white house which they instructed the former security director karl cline shouldn't show up for testimony on capitol hill today. and ner likely to do the same with john gore, a justice department official that democrats want to speak about adding the citizenship question to the census form.

and that is someone they want to speak with. but the white house is saying that they do not think he is going to testify unless he request have a justice department lawyer present. and that's something that we have seen democrats push back against. and of course the biggest thing coming out of this is whether or not don mcgahn, the former white house counsel is going to end up testifying. and right now our sources are telling us from inside the white house that they may seek a find a way where conmcgahn does not have to comply with the subpoena. of course it's expected what they want to talk to him about after seeing what was published in the mueller report last thursday, but the white house is essentially saying there is a chance they could assert executive privilege over certain conversations or memos or anything that mcgahn was involved in. watch for a battle to play out there. essentially you are seeing this stlat on so many fronts. not just taxes and security clearances but even down to the former white house counsel, erica. >> katlyn colin was the latest thank you. "outfront" tonight pop jerry connolly a member of the

houseover sight kme who was set to interview the former white house sfoeshl on security security clearances. the white house stonewalling but as we look at this and as katlyn laid out, democrats casting a wietd net. would you have -- would you have perhaps a bit more luck if things were more targeted? >> well, you know, i think it looks like a wide net compared to the previous two years where there was no net at all. and unfortunately the trump administration is a target-rich administration. there are so many instances of ethical laps, suspected wrongdoing, deliberate abuse of power, that frankly, our six committees of jurisdiction are on full speed trying to get at the facts and get behind the scenes to understand the

narrative that's emerging, which is not a pretty narrative for america. and certainly not one that reflects well on donald trump. >> in terms of getting at those facts let's focus on the security clearances, which as we know it is -- the president has the legal authority to grant them as he wishes. we know that. that's been established. the white house, though, telling cline not to appear before the committee today. because you were seeking confidential information. why do you disagree on that point with the white house? >> well, we know from a whistleblower who went public, miss new bold, that mr. chine was issuing interim security clearances and top secret clearances sort of with immunity. he was overlooking serious allegations, serious negative information in background checks that would have normally prevented the issuance of a

clearance or certainly caused people to pause. and that compromises national security. we're not talking about just any old agency. we are talking about the white house. and if anything should be secure and if background checks should be thorough and complete it ought to be the white house. we want to make sure we are protect nag institution from possible abuse by having mr. cline come and explain his process, his thinking and decision making. >> we should point out the president's deputy counsel argued the subpoena unconstitutionally in their view encroaches i want to get this right on fundamental executive branch interests. as you know but the white house did agree for cline to appear along with an official from the white house counsel's office. that was rejected. why is that not an acceptable alternative? >> it has never been the practice of our committee to have an agency attorney accompany a witness who is being deposed. it can have a chilling effect.

in fact it's designed to have a chilling effect. and that's a good practice. it was a practice under republican majorities and democratic majorities and republican and democratic white house attention aufld this white house doesn't want to play by the rules. we are not changing our house house rules to accommodate this particular president who has something to hide. >> when we look at all the the his attorney saying in a letter with two masters from two equal brafrms of government we will follow the instructions of the one that employs him is it fair to hold him in contempt if he obeys the orders of co-equal branches of government, the one that employs him? >> well, erica, i understand that that's you know a question. but how does congress enforce its will? article 17 of the constitution is about congress's powers, which are awesome and they're designed to put a check on the

executive and for that matter the judiciary. that's why it's article 1 not harley 3 or article 14. the founders saw the congressional power and the role of the legislature as preeminent. and to defy the legitimate operations of congress to try to get at facts and to try to curb bad practices going on in the white house and the administration, that's our constitutional role. and defying the will of congress, i think has to be resisted. and the best way that is to enforce subpoenas is of courts of law. and when the subpoenas are defied to hold people in contempt. >> thank you, congressman for joining us tonight. >> my pleasure, erica. any time. >> "outfront" next, jared kushner downplaying russia's attack on the u.s. election. >> the investigations and all of the speculation that's happened for the last two years has had a harsher impact on the democracy

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tonight, jared kushner with a new take on the mueller investigation and russia. all that meddling in the election, the sweeping systematic interference we learned about, gnat nearly as damning as the resulting investigations. take a listen. >> you look at, you know what russia did, buying some facebook ads to sow dissent and it's a terrible thing. but i think the investigations and all of the speculation that's happened for the last few years has had a much lavern la harsher impact on democracy democracy if you look at the magnitude what have any didden a accomplished i think the ensuing investigations have been more harmful to the dynamic outfront now adviser to form front willing david gergen. former new jersey attorney general. patrick healy. i hear the words may more harmful to the country. that's that's his assessment of the investigations. >> he he has it exactly wrong.

the mueller investigation was a far more serious attack and to think that he would sort of dismiss the indictments of some 25 russians racking in to think he would dismiss "the new york times" as reporting 126 million people likely saw those facebook ads. you know it's part of a overall offense that the administration is going on now. they are stiff argument the congress and all sorts of requests. ordering the bicycle of a white house correspondents dinner. that must be a first sort of stupid and on the attack on the mueller probe. that adds up to one thing, that is they want to bully their way back into this. they dropped 4 points in the polls. and they're trying to rally. i think they are worried about 2020. >> they may be worried. you look at the facts. i know that may not be always perhaps the focus. but ann looking at the facts, the findings were i'm quoting, the russian government interfered in the 2016

preponderate presidential election in sweemg appear systematic fashion. a russian troll group purchased over 3,500 facebook affidavits reaching tens of millions. facebook's own estimates 126 million users likely saw them opinion. and they are still meddle willing and here we are. >> i mean, it is -- it's terrible in my miepd to even equate or have a conversation the about the two things and sort of the way that kushner has done it is to make some equation we could compare these things when we can't. what the russian government and mueller has found is the sweeping and systemic attempts to influence our election. you have talked about the scope. it's extraordinary. when you read 20 oh plus pages of volume one of robert mueller's report it lays out in excruciating detail a foreign adverse, government, took an enormous -- spent enormous money and time to hack the elections and did so by reaching millions of americans. and so nas -- that is incredibly important. the second piece and see it was a completely lawful investigation started by the

president's hand picked attorney general, republican political appointee. and the purpose of doing investigations is to find out the truth of what happened pb. to say that hurts democracies is the opposite. i'm in greemtd with david on that. >> it's fascinating because patrick as we look at jared kushner's statement it's really a clear reflection as david alluded to what we hear from thes white house, and wlat message something. in fact if you put them side by side it process puts it in perspective. take a listen. >> i thought the thoel whole thing was non-zbleen non-cents no collusion no nothing. >> ensuing investigations have been very harmful. >> i think it's very bad for our country. >> the president tweeting afterward great interview by jared nice to have extraordinarily smart people serving our country. he is clearly win with eing with the audience of one. but it is to both points this is more than a political talking point. the the ramifications here are

fast vast, important and downplaying the seriousness of a foreign adversary working to undermine and influence an election can't be ignored. and yet that's the road they continue to go down. >> yeah, absolutely. i mean it's the inner circle of the trump white house that feels the need to parrot back in language that they know somehow helped deeply insecure president, who still worries about his legislate macy and the legislate macy of his own elections and they are willing to diminish and downgrade, the systemic interference by a hostile government in our elections to just a couple of facebook ads, for what's the reason to make the president feel better? make him feel secure in his own skin? there is no real reason which jared kushner a smart guy would get up on the stage and use language like that except to make the president feel a little bit better about the fact that he beat hillary clinton in the

electoral college but not the in the popular vote. and it's so striking this nation that has been, you know at war over centuries that has faced adversity on so many fronts that when it's so clear from our own intelligence agencies, from, you know, almost two-year report by the special counsel, you know a basic set of findings that everyone can simply grow on based on the evidence because the president of the united states needs to feel a little bit better about his election. >> yeah. there is another side of this. i think we covered the ground about why the mueller investigation was so -- what- dsh why the russians attack is so serious. but it's also equally true that the mueller investigation was extraordinarily important to our democracy. because if we really seriously believe in checks and balances we needed a thorough investigation that both sides could say you made an honest attempt to get to the truth.

and the trump -- the trump presidency is stronger than it was before the mueller report came out. but they have allowed themselves to be dragged back into this and making the sense letsless arguments that it's discrediting their victory. >> it's fascinating to your point. ann i'll throw this to you, they do along stronger. the president came out initially total exon ration but not true. but very positive and then this shift now. and it's interesting to watch in shift and how ner play going. because to your point, david they could have said, look it's actually not so bad. before the 448 redacted pages out. that being said, it's remarkable to watch the shift. and that persistens really, persistens of saying i don't like there therefore it must be bad and wrong. >> it feels like -- and the president has done this the past few years. attempted to delegislate myself robert mueller's investigation by calling it a witch hunt,

criticizingmatic mueller personally saving he was clkted. now the fascinating thing is they want to embrace the first half of the report which robert mueller said clearly he was not finding the president or member of the trump campaign conspired with the russians. and they want to distance the second part and discredit the entire part on obstruction. and it really is -- it's going going to be fascinating to watch. because i think they are trying to frame it as a complete exon ration but also that it wasn't that -- we just heard it it wasn't that big a deal. like everybody made way too big a deal about it for the two years. the media, the investigation and nobody should be focused on the outcome. >> it's also, too, part ofway we also heard from jared kushner today is he said in response to a question about russia getting close, why didn't they reject getting close to the campaign. we didn't know what russia was doing. what it was doing. entirely possible, right. but still, no matter how many cus you make for we are not plikens this was our first kban and didn't know what we were doing. if russia comes to you at the

end of the dayna should raise a red flag. >> it should. on the one hasn't presidential campaigns aren't necessarily vetting deeply investigating deeply sore of everyone -- the intent of everyone who comes in. but when it's russian nationals or representatives of russian organizations who are coming to the trump campaign and sort of suggesting as donald trump junior said, you know maybe we have dirt on hillary clinton, you know we'll be able to bring this to you -- you have to wonder about the intent, the desire to influence, and ultimately whether you want these people to be partnering in your political effort. >> it's also true, as long as president of the united states takes a casual attitude towards what the russians have done we are extremely vulnerable in 2020 to them doing it all over. >> and not listening to your own intelligence officials. >> yeah. >> and if nothing else approaching it from that expect, alktly david and patrick appreciate it all thank you. outfrontex next from "the

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tonight president trump sitting down with twitter ceo jack doorsy weighing in on where else? twitter, the president said they had a great meeting in the oval office. one of 58 tweets and retweets since yesterday morning. touching on the terror attack in sri lanka, the mueller report, "the new york times," tariffs, the economy, jared kushner, even golfer earney ellis's charity work. one tweet even an attack on at which time pepper outfront now a member of the re-elect advicery counsel for president trump. and joan walsh. good to have you both here. we know this pattern. a twitter surge from the president and something that has gotten under his skin. ron since you are closest to the

president at the table. what is it, the mueller report, the subpoena for don mcgahn. >> trust me there are a lot of us republicans and trump supporters who want him to be like this because the tweets. >> that's not happening. >> it's not happening. he'll go like that. he learns -- he learned a long time ago to control the pej. and he will tell anyone who -- anyone who tells him not to tweet, you know, you think you're such a geenz i got elected president when everyone told me not top. and search talking about my what i'm tweeting. he is right in that respect but it can drive him off course. i wish he would have vaulted around the mueller report and barn stormed around the country saying look what we've been doing and let's era let the democrats go crazy. >> the thing about the mueller report is a couple of weeks ago he was exon trait rated like mueller, the process worktd it was over. now disparages and tarnishing someone who he claimed

exonerated him. he can't have it both ways. to go back to i was setup witch hunt message means he is skartd. and i think he is scared of impeachment. >> no, i don't. >> i think he is absolutely frightened. >> no. >> and i think he sees -- i don't know what don mcgahn is going to do. but triflg doesn't cover him. i just -- i think we are seeing someone -- i would say he has lost it except he hasn't had it for a sfwhiel ouch. go ahead, quickly. >> no, look, i read the mueller report and i would have been really angry too if that happened to me because when you know you didn't do anything wrong and the fbi director comes in and says you're not the target of this and he says okay well say that so i can get on with my life. he says no. if somebody accused you of murder and you knew you didn't murder anybody and the prosecutor came in said loo look we nope you didn't murder anybody but we're going through the process. >> you're smarter than that. >> no fwhob no he didn't do anything wrong. the first volume was ridiculousness. >> well it wasn't ridiculous bau

he was -- >> should have never led to the second volume. >> but it did. no it's ridiculous. the special counsel found clear and convincing evidence of a pattern of. >> no. >> not collusion, but of a pattern of russian interference and a lot of contact. >> but minor characters. >> he became a target when he fired comey. and then if you can read -- if you can read volume two and say nothing bad happened when he repeatedly tries to get don mcgahn to lie to fire mueller, then to lie about firing moourl, i mean, there are -- there are 12 things he is accused of i think eight are very zbloors here is what is else fascinating i want to play the exchange the president had, brief exchange yesterday with reporters. take a listen. >> are you worried that your staff is ignoring your orders on the mueller report. >> anybody nobody disagree was my order. >> are you worried about impeachment mr. president. >> a little bit. >> nobody disobeys my orders. rob it's laid out clearly plenty

of people did. >> they did. >> they weren't comfortable with what the president told hem to do. >> they did. and thankfully they did. and in some respects, right and president nixon had the whole thing with haldman said i'm telling you at times if i tell you something you shouldn't do do don't do it. that's what staff is supposed to do to protect the country and their president as well. >> do you think -- i mean this is a serious question. >> i think ofo a lot that have was anger. >> do you think the president understands that. >> i think so. but, look, the as i read that, the first -- my first thought was wait a minute, how did -- how did we get through four years of obama administration when they knew that russia was playing games and they didn't do anything about it then the second step is they tried. >> they tried. >> they didn't do anything. >> they did a lot about it and tried to warn congress but mitch mcconnell stopped them. >> they dsh it was their administration their justice department. then candidate president trump becomes president-elect trump he is told about this stuff and he

is not a target. he says all right then say that. and they don't. >> this narrative has been going going on zpl they can't clear you because then they have to come back and say you are a target if you become one. >> and comey explained that to him. >> taking things seriously about russian interference we heard from jared kushner who said listen it's not like a not a big deal. facebook was far worse. the russia -- the investigations rather that stemmed from this. >> a few facebook atds. >> it was facebook that was worse. you're concerned the obama administration didn't take things seriously enough. can you sit here and say you think the trump administration is taking things seriously enough. we know from our own intelligence not it's over. >> it's not over. and i think the administration and congress needs to make sure this doesn't happen again. because it happened once. it happened twice. and i think it can happen again. you know we're outside is the time warner center and they had hillary clinton did you see what she said today? i can't believe hillary clinton of all people said, that this

president was treated differently and probably should have been indicted. seriously, hillary this is why democrats say pleasious go away? a lot of us she isn't in the majority position among democrats if you see the polls among democrats alone 76% for beachment. >> what hillary did and got away with and how she was troeted differently that's. >> i'm not requiet litigating that. >> that's i way sess the last american to say. >> we are not relitigating anything. but i do not do want to get your take on what we learned. reemt retired french ambassador to the u.s. just sat down with cnn and talked about the differences that he saw during his term bus he was here under obama obviously and then also president trump. listen to his assessment. >> in administration is totally dysfunctional, because a lot of offices are still empty two years after the inauguration of

president trump. people are appointed and they leave after a one year. or if they are people in the office, as i said before, they don't know what the president will decide the day after. so it's -- it's in a sense it's dysfunctional. >> he is saying it's dysfunctional. we should say too he called president obama a little bit arrogant. it's not like he had a love fest for president obama. what he was talking about are the vacancies and the work not getting zblun and the acting post. >> and the work not getting done and the impact it has on diplomacy. and see a focus and concern taurl for in administration. >> first of all i would tell the frefrm ambassador i and nobody in america really cares what you have to think about our government. worry about your own yellow vests you got your own problems over there. >> this is one of the u.s.'s most important allies. >> but who care what is the former ambassador says about our country. got your own issues. >> this is what's not working. >> and who is he to judge. >> the approval american of letteredship -- there is a

recent pew poll taken from 2016 to 2018, the approval of american leadership in the world dropped 75% in france, 75% in germany, 50% in -- excuse me in england, the one place it rose was in russia. all ever our allies feel that way. it is a dysfunctional administration and that is also what the second volume of the mueller report will tell you as well. >> we also have a president. >> we don't have a president on the apology tour. >> outfront next house speaker nancy pelosi pushing back against democrats who want to impeach president trump. >> the path of faktd finding there takes us there we have no choice but we are not there yet. >> does 2020 contender eric swalwell agree? he is my guest. plus isis teg taking credit for the easter sunday bombings as the prime minister of sri lanka admits they could have been prevented. so what happened?

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mcgahn. mcgahn was mentioned more than 150 times in the meshl special counsel report which details miss refusal to allow the president's order to fire mueller. white house spokesman responded earlier. >> on the impeach. >> of don mcgahn to respond to that subpoena to testify before congress. >> that's up to the attorneys but what i can tell you is it's clear what jerry nadler and others are trying to get to do. they want to get to the president president not the truth. at this point i don't think what jerry nadler think he is going to get that robert mueller didn't except for political points with the base. >> outfront now exactic presidential candidate congressman eric swalwell from california sits on the house intelligence and judiciary committee. >> thank you. >> have you heard from don mcgahn. >> we are not we are encouraging him to come in. you know he doesn't work at the white house process.

he waived the privilege. i don't think just telling the truth to mueller should be, you know, anything that ke say he has done the right thing so far. if that's the standard just teg the truth makes you hero. no, being a hero would be come in even the when the president asserts a privilege and then raise your right hand tell us what happened. >> in terms if you say the president does exerts the privilege. >> yeah. >> as an attorney is there anything that you can point to that tells you haste he has the privilege on doesn't have the primeval. >> he has waived that privilege. and the president has said he has nothing to hide. don mcgahn he is not kept in a cage at the white house. he can come in on his own and testify and there is nothing the white house can do. so i'm encouraging him. i think everyone on the committee encouraging him do the right thing. he told the mueller team about instances of obstruction. the country should know, you know, how the president obstructed a lawful investigation. and allow us to decide how you hold someone accountable for doing that. >> you talked about talking to some of my colleagues this morning you talked about how you

want to see the redacted version of the report. and hear from ph.d. began as we know. you would like to hear from mueller. there is talk about impeachment, especially among democrats and a question there. you seem to say you're not ready to go down that road. >> yeah. >> is there something that would move the needle for you. >> yeah. >> is there something in particular you want to hear from any of the who sfleem we're on the road to impeachment. it's not a road anyone chose. but we may have to go done it to save our country. when i went to court as a prosecutor before i walked through the courtroom doors i wanted to make sure my witnesses were subpoenaed. pencilled sharpened exhibits ready. only one shot to make the case. that's the case here. getting the full report and understanding exactly what happened having mueller testify. seeing is believing a report is one thing. but for the american people to hear the instances of links between the trump campaign and russians but also the instances of obstruction, i think you're going to see more buy in from the american people and maybe

more buy in from republicans. finally just because trump rushes to judgment and draws conclusions wrout without ed doesn't mean we should follow suit. i think people are counting on us to be orderly and make sure the rule of law stands. >> that's part of what we heard from nancy pelosi. i want to play what she had to say a short time ago. >> i do believe that impeachment is one of the most divisive forces -- paths that we could go down to in our country. but it's if the path of fact finding takes us there we have no choice. but we are not there yet. >> we are not there yet. if the path takes us there, that's where we will go. you say we are on the road. >> yeah. >> you two are maybe on slightly different roads. >> yeah. >> there are a number of people still within the democratic party and some of them fellow exactic contenders who we heard from last niem who are clear they see it laid out already in the mueller report and you should be pursuing. >> what makes me different from

them is i am someone ha has to prosecute that i'm the only one on the judiciary committee. i understand why they feel the way they do. i don't want the president to get away with fwlog happening. i have a 2-year-old i count to three and take toi toys away when he is bad if we don't do that he is going to continue to be bad. we have a bad kid in the white house. it's the emolument violations. possibly telling the commissioner for border patrol. violate the constitution i'll violate epardon you. we have to set a standard for him and future presidents. >> i want to get your take on something jared kushner had to say early yerl today. i'll let you hear it in his own words. >> yeah. >> quite frankly the whole thing is a big distraction for the company you look at what russia did buying some facebook ads to sow dissent and do it it's a terrible thing. i think the investigations and all of the speculation that's happened for the last two years has a had a harsher compact on the democracy nan a couple much

facebook ads. >> that's the first we heard from him since the release of the mueller report. >> yeah russia did more than just bye some ads russia attacked our democracy. the trump team met with russians, never said no. held up green lights. expected to benefit from it. and the mueller report says a lot of things but it doesn't say oh, by the way with these contacts stopped. and so most importantly, what i want to know is are there ongoing threats to our national security? can we expect more of this in 2020? have with he create add per missive environment for other countries to think, well, democracy is open for business. we can all come in and get our preferred candidates elected. and so i think it's insulting to the intelligence community findings but also i think doesn't uphold volume values as a dpkz to say that's all they. >> thank you. >> outfront next, jean jeanne moos on president trump royal treatment. plus heart break as an american father talks about losing two children in the deadly attacks in sri lanka. >> the bomb went off and they

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new tonight, new tonight, isis claiming responsibility for the easter

bombings at churches and hotels in sri lanka. more than 300 people were killed. surveillance video provided to cnn shows one of the alleged suspects entering a church with a backpack just moments before a blast. the country's prime minister also revealing an attack on another hotel failed and that the attacks could have been prevented. and we're now hearing from one american who not only lost two children in the attack but watched as they were hit by the blast. >> my children had actually went down to the buffet before me and got the food for me, filled up my plate. and then i wanted a little bit more to drink. i was going to get it. my daughter said she'd get it, then the bomb went off and they were both running toward me, and i'm not sure if that's what killed them or not, but we started -- and i knew there'd be another bomb because there always is with these things. another bomb went off and -- >> so your instinct was to get out -- >> yes, as soon as possible. >> to move them with you. >> maybe i should have just stayed and covered them with my body. >> "out front" now, former cia

operative bob baer bear. from what we're learning, there were intel officials in india and the united states that warned sri lanka in the beginning of april. there were repeated warnings, memos over the last days, including a memo from sri lankan security that was so specific, there were actually a list of suspects. this feels like a massive failure. >> well, it wasn't a failure on the part of the united states and india because that information was transmitted to sri lanka. it's part of the fault of sri lankan police who didn't act on it. that government is fairly dysfunctional, still hollowed out by the civil war. yes, so, it's a horrible failure. >> and from what we understand, the prime minister saying there is still a threat, there are still suspects out there, quote, on the run with explosives. i mean, just put that in perspective for us. how dangerous is the situation on the ground right now? >> well, if i were -- i wouldn't go in a hotel frequented by foreigners or any public place, train station, airports,

nowhere. if there's still bombs out there and these people are very effective and very dangerous, and apparently, the police do not have a grip on this. this group came out of nowhere. and maybe with assistance from the islamic state, but it's very dangerous in sri lanka. and if i were a tourist, i would get out. >> isis claiming some responsibility, as you know. the president has regularly claimed that isis has been defeated. what should we be taking away from this horrific event from everything we're learning through today? >> well, erica, he was always wrong about being 100% defeated. we knew that after syria fell, after the capital fell, at least people would disperse and go on the offensive. they went underground, which, in fact, makes them more dangerous at this point, and we simply don't know where they're going to strike next, but there are a lot of them out there and they're very committed and they will do a lot more damage before they're done. >> bob baer, always appreciate your insight. thank you. >> thank you. "out front" next on a much

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tonight, president trump set to get the royal treatment. the president, we're learning, will make his first state visit to the uk. mark your calendars. that will happen june 3rd. and when i say state visit, i mean all the pomp and circumstance. in fact, he'll become just the third u.s. president to receive a full state visit from the royal family. jeanne moos takes us on a trip down memory lane with president trump and the queen. >> reporter: the queen and president trump, soon to be back together again. ♪ we can hardly wait. all that pomp and protocol to mess up. remember the last time? >> he broke royal protocol by

walking in front of the queen, but she quickly stepped forward to correct -- >> reporter: but not quickly enough to stop the jokes. >> he's cutting her off like he's trying to beat her to the early bird special. >> reporter: actually, there was a lot of realtime coaching going on. royal gestures indicating where to go. without a rehearsal, no wonder president trump ended up going off into the wild blue yonder. comedians piled on with imaginary protocol breaches. >> during dinner, put his elbows on the magna carta, wore a burger king crown the entire time. >> reporter: but the obamas made their own royal faux pass. michelle acknowledged in her book that she touched the queen first on the shoulder, a no-no, and the monarch reciprocated, placing her hand on michelle's back. president obama put the queen in a bind. she had to ignore him when he toasted her -- >> to the queen. >> reporter: -- because he did it while britain's national anthem was playing.

president trump had tea with the queen. >> this was supposed to last for 15 minutes, but it lasted for like an hour because we got along! we got along. >> reporter: but long before president trump actually met the queen, they were practically inseparable. this is one way to make america great britain again -- face-swapping. a graphic designer made a name for herself by replacing the queen's face with the president's, over and over. there was queen trump in his youth, the donald with a duck -- make that a swan. his first trip to the uk inspired the trump baby blimp. on his upcoming state visit, take care not to make like a blimp, blocking the queen. jeanne moos, cnn, new york. >> thanks for joining us tonight. "ac360" starts right now. ♪

good evening. there's breaking news tonight, the white house saying they may defy a congressional subpoena for the testimony former white house counsel don mcgahn, the attorney who kept notes and already talked to mueller. they are already resisting a second subpoena for another former aide. the treasury department is ignoring another deadline for handing over the president's tax returns, and the trump organization is battling a demand to produce financial records. essentially, the administration is trying to put up road blocks wherever they can. we'll talk tonight about those cases and others and whether they amount to contempt on the president's part, not just for congress, but also for institutions and standards of behavior dating back to the founders. whether or not this is the case is, of course, an open question. it is debatable, and we'll certainly debate it tonight, including with a nobel laureate who believes we're on the edge of no longer being a functioning democracy. we begin, keeping them honest with something beyond almost any dispute, namely, the administration's contempt for the truth to the point of trying to convince the public not to believe their ears and eyes. the word for