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>> i am a young vibrant man. >> reporter: a young vibrant ham, there someone fixed it. jeanne moos, cnn. >> you need tremendous stamina. >> reporter: new york. >> thanks for joining us. ac 360 starts right now. good evening. we learned today it doesn't take much to bait president trump even to doing something self-destructive which is revizzing 1 of the the all-time low points of his presidency. and he continues to believe there were very fine people on both sides of the alt right nenazi unite the right rally that took place in charlottesville two summers ago. the president claims it was a rally about confederate statues. it was billed as a unite the right rally. and on the first night white
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nationalist and nenaughties by the hundreds marched with torches and hate in their hearts and in the their words. late that weekend one of them use their car to ram a counterprotester heather heyer. the idea there were fine people there on both sides, i want to show you what this rally was about. >> jews will not replace us! >> they carried torches, then chanted jews will not replace us. that was one slogan. blood and soil is another, which was originally shouted in german by nazis. how many fine people arrived with combat boots and clubs and picked up torches and chanted nazi slogans? that's the question. and anti-celtic ones as well? how many fine people who you
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know would do that? how many fine people would look around at the nazis and the skin heads that they were marching with and say you know what, yeah, these are exactly the fine people i want to march with and carry this burning torch with? what do nazi slogans and anti-jewish chants have to do with the statue of robert e. lee because that's where those nazis right there were heading. that's what the president is revisiting and relitigating today. it's the wound he's reopening and the history he's once again trying to relight. keep in mind it was bad enough by torchlight and no better by gaslight because that is what the president is doing. asking us to believe something contrary to what you and i and everybody can see with our own ears -- excuse me, with our own eyes and hear with our own ears. this all came up today as president trump was responding to joe biden's campaign kick off
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video in which biden talked about the president's fine people on both sides statement. here's what he said today when he was asked if he still believed there were fine people on both sides in charlottesville. >> i've answered that question. and if you look at what i said you will see that question was answered perfectly. and i was talking about people that went because they felt very strongly about the monument to robert e. lee, a great general. whether you like it or not, he was one of the great generals. i've spoken to many generals here right at the white house, and many people thought of the generals they think he was maybe their favorite general. people were there protesting the taking down of the monument of robert e. lee. everybody knows that. >> okay, those white sum pr
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supremacists. and this was days after the murder. he could have talked to some of the people in a moment who were actually there, but this is what days later the president was claiming which by the way undercut the teleprompter statement in which he did actually say racism was evil and mentioned the word kkk and nenot nazis and white supremacists. >> you look at both sides, i think there's blame on both sides. and i have no doubt about it, and you don't have any doubt about it either. and if you reported it accurately you would see that. and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine
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people, on both sides. >> so that line as you might imagine setoff a storm at the time and reportedly sparked joe biden's decision to run. >> those words, the president of the united states assigned a moral equivalence between those spreading hate than those with the courage to stand against it. >> well, biden's video certainly got under the president's skin. and whether you see it as the former vice president's moral outcry, political jujitsu or a  little of both, mr. trump's response speaks to it a lot. keeping them honest, his habit of re-imagining history including remarks he himself made what others might regret the president rewrites, which he was doing even back then. since then he tried to suggest he wasn't really talking about the marchers you saw a moment ago. no, he said he was talking about others but just called them history buffs, apparently very quiet ones.
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>> there were people in that rally and i looked the night before -- if you look, there were people protesting very quietly the taking down the statue of robert e. lee. i'm sure in that group there were some bad ones. the following day it looked like they had some rough, bad people, neo nazis, white nationals whatever you want to call them. >> that's the night where the e neo-nazis and hundreds of them were marching. there's no argument on both sides of that and an argument we've had on this program, that said if there were in fact any quietly peaceful very fine people among the neo-nazis in
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charlottesville, well they were too quiet to hear. if there were fine people, just good people just concerned about statues, they would have seen the tiki torches coming and they would have heard the chants, and the next day they would have seen the nazis with shields and clubs and helmets. and fine people seeing all that would not have stuck around. but the truth is this was never planned to be a civil war statue appreciation weekend. it was as the poster clearly states, a unite the right rally. the names on that poster, by the way, are a prominent white nationalist. i'm not even going to say their names. ones a neo-nazi, one a slavery advocate. not very fine people. nor the type that any genuinely fine people who might support keeping confederate statues up
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would want to mingle with or carry a tiki torch with. and if there's any doubt about the fine people who actually did show up, here's what a white supremacist organization wrote just four days and i'm quoting here. quote, although the rally was initially planned in support of the lee monument which the mayor it has become something much bigger than that, now a historic rally which will serve as a rally point and battle cry for the alt right movement. those are some of the fine people the president claims were there. joining us now is someone who knows all too well who was in charlottesville and what happened, the mayor at charlottesville at the time. as the mayor of charlottesville during the rally, first of all, just what went through your mind when you heard president trump essentially doubling down on his very fine people on both sides?
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>> he doesn't know what the hell he's talking about. it's not just delusional, it's very dangerous to choose to see this event through that lens that he is offering again. i mean this was already a disaster the first time it happened, as you said. this is what led to steve bannon who was the architect of this populous strategy where they decided to include groups that had always been on the fringe of american politics in their coalition to create this political strategy. there were make america great hats, the red baseball caps around this unite the right rally, like you said. what the president seems to be very stubbornly and dangerously trying to mislead the country about was this was not about history enthusiasts. we have a lot of that in virginia. we call them flaggers. those people really care about the rebel flag, confederate
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statues, that is a debate. but that's not what this was. there was a very small fraction of people at this weekend who were there about the robert e. lee statue itself. there were many more who were there for the purpose of violently enforcing white supremacy and white nationalism. there were 12 militia groups with the word militia in their title who came to try and intimidate and terrorize people. and there were actually a terrorist act. and you've got to tell me, mr. president, if this is really about the robert e. lee statue, why are people chanting jews will not replace us? >> yeah, it's ludicrous to think a chant of jews will not replace us and blood and soil has anything to do with robert e. lee. i've taked to people on all sides of the issue and there's arguments to be made and there's been plenty of rallies and stuff. that is not what this was.
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they may have used it as a rallying point, but they weren't even use tg as a rallying cry. they were using anti-semitic slogans as a rally cry. >> and i think the thing to really concentrate on, and why i appreciate it the way the vice president framed this issue when he said we really do face choices as a country, this really did illuminate the stakes is there really are stakes of this delusion that the president is offering, so let's be clear. they made a choice to create a populist political campaign to include white nationalist groups in that coalition. hadn't done that before. now at the same time we have seen the anti-defamation league has put out a study, 148 violent white nationalist groups now exist in this country. 71% of the deaths that have occurred through domestic extremism have been at the hands of white nationalist groups. there was a front page "the new york times" article, "the new
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york times" magazine last october that came out, the title was u.s. law enforcement failed to see the threats of white nationalism. now they don't know how to stop it. and there was lots of evidence in there because they have been deciding to ignore white nationalists and focus exclusively on foreign-born terrorists, they have actually taken off their foot on the gas of just this threat to everybody. and meanwhile we see the tree of life massacre and we see three african-american churches just burnt down in new orleans. we have seen in new zealand, this threat has been metastasizing around the world. in countries very similar dangerous fascist type rallies. and on top of all of this you've seen an authoritarian type that's refused to intervene in this activity the vice president is seeing that's reminiscesent
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of the 1930s. >> appreciate your time. with us now someone else who was in charlottesville that week. and cornell west. dr. west, thanks for being with us. you were there. you witnessed -- i think you were in a church at one point while these nazis were marching. is the president just rewriting history here? >> well, no, i mean he's lying again but anything i say today is in the spirit of my former teacher and mentor who just died two days ago in the legacy of martin luther king, jr. the president is lying. we know president trump is a sick vanilla brother with deep xenophobic sensibility not just against black people, against muslims, mexicans, against jews. and at times we wonder if he's got both paddles in the water because it's just so far remove from reality.
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you're absolutely right. i'm standing there, there's groups coming, they're looking us straight in the face, they're cussing, demonizing, they've got guns, gas masks, some got ammunition. they're not thinking about robert e. lee. they're thinking about a hatred of black folk, hatred of muslims, jews, gays and so forth and so on. and then their question is brother biden because brother biden also has his own record he has to come to terms with. in 1994 he's calling precious young folks prejudice just like hillary clinton and we also know he's voting against -- he has an amendment that goes through that ed brook says is the most anti-civil rights bill since 1964. but when you have a liberal biden and a sick white brother
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trump who's got neo-fascist sensibilities we have to keep the larger framework in place. in this particular instance biden is absolutely right, but we also have to recognize if we're really concerned about the rich humanity of black people, the rich humanity of poor and working people. we've got to have a certain critical sensibility against both of these brothers because we need somebody who's going to build on the legacy of martin luther king, jr., martin luther of harvard who's trying to keep track of what's beneath the discourse, not just the two talking but what's beneath the diskrs. all the poverty, all of the legacy of racism and then try to muster the moral and spiritual courage to tell the truth. >> obviously the concern is a politician uses this example in a video announcing that they are running for president, and
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that's it. then they can, you know -- they wrap themselves in it and then they move on without looking at -- there's a long record that he does not seem to -- i don't know if he's reflected on it or not but he's not really directed it or not. >> i think it's a challenge of each and every one of them because we all fall short. integrity, moral, courage, constancy, that's what we don't find among much or many of our politicians. who is willing to be a stateswoman, a states man, a states person and try to actually get at the real structural institutional issues of racism of the ways in which and in the ideologies that unfortunately lead us to lose
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sight of the humanity in the body body be they palestinians, mexican, black, white, yellow. that's what we have to be focused on as well. >> and there is also this kind of moral equivalency that the president is arguing, oh, there's good people on both sides. it's all kind of just balances out in the wash, according to him. >> no, i think i would agree with brother trump that it's human beings on both sides. because nazis are human beings that girbles and himler, they were smart strategists, and they
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were nazis. nazis are human beings. they can be smart. robert e. lee, he was a very smart and strategic general for a thuggish and a gangsterrish cause, trying to keep black people in slavery in perpetuity. that's the constitution of the confederacy he pledged allegiance to. so that's what he needs to focus on and that's what he needs to really zero in on. it was a violent insurrection to overthrow the u.s. government in the name of keeping black people in slavery forever, forever. that's what the confederacy was about. but as human beings, and this is what's so very important because human beings have the capacity to be wretched. we have the capacity to be wonderful. >> and it's a choice. >> it is a choice that all of us have to wrestle with on the battlefield of our own souls each and every day in the lifetime that we have in space and time. >> dr. cornell west, always
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appreciate you being with us. thank you. coming up -- next for us breaking news, new reporting that sheds fresh light on rod rosenstein and the political tightrope he walked as he scrambled to protect robert mueller and as well his job. the promise to the president, i can land the plane. and later the case of the missing press secretary, what our white house correspondent has to say about that. sam donaldson joins us. yesss, i'm doing it all. the water. the exercise. the fiber. month after month, and i still have belly pain and recurring constipation. so i asked my doctor what else i could do, and i said yesss to linzess. linzess treats adults with ibs with constipation or chronic constipation. linzess is not a laxative, it works differently. it helps relieve belly pain and lets you have more frequent and complete bowel movements.
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the day after comey was fired the deputy attorney general had suggested wearing a wire to surreptitiously record president trump. the report continues rosenstein who by one account had gotten teary-eyed just before the call in a meeting with trump's chief of staff sought to diffuse the volatile situation and assure the president he was on his team, according to people familiar with the matter. according to "the washington post" which sites an administration official with knowledge of the call rosenstein told the president, quote, i give the investigation credibility and, quote, i can land the plane, end quote. it's a pretty remarkable account. it's worth reading and sharing the byline on it is "the post" josh dossy and also a cnn political analyst. this is fascinating article that one phrase rosenstein telling the president it almost sound like a parody the justice department would say to calm down an angry president. can you explain the context of
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it? >> certainly, over the past two years we've seen the president repeatedly get frustrated by the mueller investigation, how it was going. on a number of akaegzs the deputy attorney general over seeing the probe reassured the president he was not a target of the investigation, he understood the president thought he was being treated unfairly and he would make sure the investigation came to an end as expeditiously as possible. rod rosenstein was there to assuage and calm him down. >> you also write at one point in this whole saga rosenstein actually got teary. did president trump ever find out about that? i remember hearing in woodward's book the president told giuliani he needed his diaper changed. >> that was on the evening it was reported in "the new york times" that rosenstein offered to wear a wire and meet with the
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president. he was summoned to the white house by chief of staff john kelly at the time to talk about the article, and he grew very emotional and for about ten minutes he begged for his job and said i'm happy to go, i'm happy to resign but i don't want to be fired via tweet, i don't want my reputation tarnished, but at the end of the day the president didn't fire him. >> when you read the mueller report president trump tried to get rosenstein to hold a press conference and claimed that he, rod rosenstein, was the one responsible, who came up with the idea of firing comey and pushed for it. and the white house press office also tried to get the department of justice to issue a statement to that effect. and rosenstein said, look, the press conference isn't a good idea because if they ask me i'm going to tell the truth. what's your response then to the article for rosenstein? >> we had a bunch of conversations with the justice department before this story
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printed. rosenstein in some ways, anderson, is one of the most mystifying figure in all of this. he was at the beginning wnlss to some of those episodes. he was obviously so concerned about the president's behavior he was willing to say he was going to wear a wire. he pushed back in that episode you talked about and said that would be a false story even when the white house tried to pin it on him. he became someone who liked to brief the president, someone the president saz as on the team over the course of two years. and where this has fixated a lot of observers and his friends is what was he thinking, what was the modus operandi for how he behaved. >> with that, let's look closer at the implications. joining us for that -- renato,
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would it make sense for rosenstein to be telling the president he would land the plane in term of the mueller case? why was he assuaging the president's fears? >> i have to say it's kind of screwed up, anderson, to be frank with you. the deputy attorney general is supposed to be representing the united states of america and the american people not the president of the united states. as you point out the president's supposed to be walled off. and he shouldn't be as to josh dossy's article wrote, be trying to convince the president that he was on his team, that he's supposed to be on our team, on the american people's team, not on the president's team. elliot, the idea he was telling him on more than one occasion he agreed the president was being treated unfairly, josh said it wasn't clear if rosenstein was referring to the media or what. was it appropriate in your opinion? >> no, not really.
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it seems there's a little element of flattery there. we have enough data to find out what it takes to survive in this administration. and you have to be willing to flatter the president even to the expense of the rule of law. so if you look at jeff sessions or john kelly or even secretary nielsen, they're all folks who pushed back on the president on these rule of law questions and don mcgahn, they're all gone and they don't survive. and it seems the folks willing to flatter stay around. if you're going to challenge the president, you seem you have better job security working the crypts in "game of thrones" because zombies are coming for you because if you're going to stand up to the president. >> i'm not sure the crypts are a safe place to be. >> that's my point. >> rosenstein begging for his job and trying to assuage the president's fears with rosenstein suggesting he wear a
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wire and the president invoking the 25th amendment? >> yeah, it's very odd. rosenstein is a tough person to pin down. i will say, anderson, at some point you got the sense that rod rosenstein understood his place in history, that he was witnessing events that were very disturbing and he needed to be concerned about doing the right thing for the american people. and that makes it all the more disturbing and bizarre that at other times he seemed to have forgotten that. so very bizarre behavior by rod rosenstein. >> elliot, i don't know why i'm so obsessed with it but the president tried to get rod rosenstein to just lie in in a press conference that he was the one pushing for comey to be fired and the white house press office was trying to get the same thing. >> as we learned the president tried to do a lot of things that were not appropriate even if they couldn't be charged with a crime. it's just a pattern of inappropriate behavior, even if
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it's not explicitly criminal. he tried to get rosenstein to do a bunch of inappropriate things, even to a point of using an expletive which is don mcgahn's assessment of it. here's the thing, all these lawyers and senior folks in the administration need to ask themselves is this the name i want associated with myself and my career for the next 30 or 40 years? it's almost like folks who were in the white house in 1974 who are forever tied to richard nixon and that pattern of misconduct and bad behavior, and to some extent we're seeing that now. you carry that reputation. >> renato, the other thing after all of this to consider is the president still -- he went to all these lengths i guess to assuage the president's fears and keep his job. unclear the victory for him is that he didn't get himself fired. >> i have to say i think that
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rod rosenstein whatever he's gained from this, maybe he'll get a judgeship or some favor out of this. i don't know what haze angle was. i thinkinate end as elliot was mentioning, i think he'll pay the price in history when these actions are examined. it's really sad that trump after all this doesn't even realize rod rosenstein paid him a big behavior by at times exciting with actions that i disagree with, elliot on this point. i think they were criminal and unlawful and i think he'll be judged for that. even if you can't charge them. >> rosenstein can have lunch with don mcgahn, they can all talk about how they're hated by the guy they saved. joe biden addressed the subject today that's come back to haunlt his newly launched presidential campaign, his handseling of the 1991 clarence thomas hearings with anita hill. he's still declining to directly apologize to her after speaking
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the front-runner of the democratic presidential race september jaus isn't just on top of the polls. hauling $6.3 million. one of the most pressing questions for biden, will he directly apologize to anita hill for his handling of the 1991 clarence thomas hearings. here was his answer. >> i'm sorry she was treated the way she was treated.
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i wish we could have figured out a better way to get this done. >> i think what she wants you to say is i'm sorry for the way i treated you, not the way you were treated. >> if you go back and look at what i said and didn't say, i don't think i treated her badly. >> so congresswoman, are you satisfied with vice president biden, what he said? does he have having to apologize to her about what he himself did and how he treated her? >> well, i think what anita hill herself has said, what is so wrong about saying i'm sorry? i can't figure why he wants to dig in? does he not recognize that he's in the me too era? doesn't he know that he's in the
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post-kavanaugh era, that these issues have new life? i can't figure out why he thinks saying i'm sorry will make it look like there's something that is so wrong that he should have done at the time? i think people might be prepared to forgive him for something he did at the time. remember it is decades ago, if he said something like i didn't know what i should have known, for example. how this would resonate. and i the reason i would say he should have known is he's a public official. he's supposed to know what others do not know. i think joe biden is a hurting himself by not bringing himself up-to-date. and when anita hill has essentially said that, for him to continue to keep the words
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i'm sorry out of the picture is to make sure that this issue is going to continue to haunt him for the rest of the campaign. >> you know, the day he's announcing this is story, he could have stopped it from being a story very likely or at least lessened it in a sense. i think what you said is really interesting. i don't know understand why so many people political especially do not just apologize. i apologize all the time for stupid things i've done or said. i don't think it's a sign of weakness. certainly president trump believes it's a sign of weakness. but i think if you've said something or reflected on something or learned something there's no harm in apologizing for it. i think people respect that, no? >> yeah, we're taught since kindergarten say i'm sorry.
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and when aneepita hill is essentially inclined to say, essentially she didn't accept his apology because she's had no apology. >> in terms of where things go from here, obviously it's very early in the campaign, there's a lot of candidates. i'm not sure if you've endorsed anyone at this point, most people have not. there's a long way to go obviously. if joe biden becomes the long nominee for president, could you see yourself supporting the biden campaign? >> look, he's got to say i'm sorry, and if you look at what happened in the house and we were able to capture the house because of how people were beginning to feel about women. there's no question he is hurting himself in the primary. now, we don't see that yet. waiting for the polls to come out. his front standing may largely be based on how well-known he is and his association with president obama. that is going to fade as people
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are all out here talking and, you know, longer is the front-runner because he isn't in yet. so he is blowing his top running status as i speak because of two words he can't say, sorry i should have known better, i know better now, let's move on. >> congresswoman, i appreciate it. thank you very much. >> my pleasure. when we return the white house keeps -- only some children were allowed to ask questions yesterday. most transparent administration in history they continue to say about themselves. we'll take a look at that dubious claim. sam donaldson next. centration of hyaluronic acid visibly plumps skin and reduces wrinkles. bounce back! new revitalift hyaluronic acid serum from l'oreal. thanks to priceline working with top airlines to turn their unsold seats into amazing deals, family reunion attendance is up. we're all related!
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day 46, still no white house press briefing. there was a reenactment yesterday. it's the longest period ever a white house has gone without a daily press briefing as they're called. clearly not so daily anymore. white house press secretary sanders made a viewing on take our sons and daughters to workday. that comes as president trump said this again today. >> there has never been a president that's been more transparent than me or the trump administration. >> he's not being ironic. unclear if he believes it, it's not true but he's not being ironic. want to bring in sam donaldson. you heard the president once
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again today saying he's the most transparent president. i mean, just on the face of it that just doesn't make any sense unless you are tournameinterpre as he is trance apparently lying. he reveals himself unintentionally, so in that sense he's transparent. but in terms of intentionally being transparent, that's just simply not the case. >> that's right. if you've never heard of donald trump before, he ran for the presidency and then won the presidency and then you had to take a look at him because the president of the united states and then watched him for the last two years and read his tweets for the last two years, et cetera, et cetera. he's transparent. you know exactly what he will do, what he will say, how he will lie. it's very difficult for me to see people who don't see that. either they're not paying attention or they don't see it. >> usually with nixon one had to
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wait until you heard, you know, all the tapes that have now come out to really get a sense of exactly what was going on inside nixon's mind. with president trump he's transparent in the sense that he's tweeting and giving away a realtime look at the inner workings of his thoughts and mind and desires to grab attention. but in terms of actual openness, in terms of actually being honest and that which is true transparency, that doesn't seem to exist. >> it doesn't exist because i think he doesn't want it to exist. look, i've had the pleasure of working with almost every press secretary beginning with john f. kennedy's administration. and except for ron ziegler who lied for richard nixon i've never seen anything like this with sarah sanders. and there's a difference. ziegler lied about one thing, the question of whether the president of the united states was covering up the watergate particular and all the questions that had to do with that. but if you asked him a question
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about foreign policy, domestic policy, he would try to say what he thought the facts were and would often be truthful. on the other hand, sarah sanders simply lies about everything taking a cue from her boss. not just one thing. i think she's an oscar, a lifetime achievement oscar for lying. and let's face it, i don't know her. i feel a little sorry for her because it's the boss who does it. she takes the cue from him. leadership begins at the top. so it's all the bad things that happen in the administration. >> one has the sense also that the president can lie to his attorneys. the president can lie to sarah sanders, and so she may not even be on firm ground at times. she may often say i've not talked to president about that as a way of not answering a question. buts what's so fascinating is, okay, so she's caught in this lie about the fbi agents and all the countless ones she's talked
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to. she goes under oath and then she's trying to walk it back on abc and in other interviews. but also the press office in the white house tried to get rod rosenstein to lie and accept responsibility for being the person who meantwanted to fire and the one who motivated it. >> if you're the top liar you want people to support your lies and not argue against them. and when it comes to making up things ron ziegler made up things in support of his president. ronald made up quotes on a, new york they have the big ships on the fourth of july, and he would say to us and the press well the president said this is manifestation of the american spirit. when he left the white house he lost his job when he admitted he made up quotes. but making up hundreds or many
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fbi agents called her, complaining about comey, saying they were so happy he was gone, that's a different kind of lie. that's a different kind of quote. speaks was inoc ws but should never have done it. they fester and they serve the public's not interest but disinterest in learning the truth. >> lastly, you hear about whether senator sanders and president trump should factor into the race. when you cover president reagan he was at that time the oldest person to take office. should age matter? >> well, of course it shouldn't matter. biden makes it 21 i'm thinking about making it 22. maybe i'm a little too old. i don't think age matters from the standpoint of looking at a person, what can they do? how is their mind? how is their understanding of
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the world. the problem with age is today it could look okay but in two years or four years or five years not so much so. but it's going to be the factor but i don't think it's going to be the deciding race in 2020. >> great to talk to you. >> and to you anderson. >> up next, what the special counsel said about russians hacking at least one florida county ahead of the 2016 election what the fbi plans to do about it, next. drowsy claritn and relief from symptoms caused by over 200 indoor and outdoor allergens. like those from buddy. because stuffed animals are clearly no substitute for real ones. feel the clarity. and live claritin clear. ifor another 150 years. the fire going ♪ to inspire confidence through style.
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investigation. that came from the mueller report. so this meeting was sparked by information in the mueller report? >> right. this is a meeting that florida leade leaders, senator rick scott and ron desantos has been demanding from the fbi. essentially what the mueller report is saying is that we know that the russians are suspected of targeting all 50 states in the 2016 election but the fbi by the mueller report is saying that one county was successfully ha hacked he wrote the fbi believes this enabled them to gain access to the network of at least one florida county government. we don't know which county. that will be among the many questions they'll be asking the
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fbi. >> but county officials were never alerted. is that right? >> no, they weren't. what's interesting here is former florida senator bill nelson raised this during midterms. he said that the russians were inside the voting infrastructure and that causes frenzy along with many other reporters they said they didn't know what he was talking about. this was never confirmed. florida election officials said they didn't know what he was talking about. they demanded answers not just from nelson but the fbi and even at that time the fbi didn't say there was any evidence, at least in 2018 that the florida election infrastructure had been compromised. >> what are florida election officials saying now? >> they're maintaining that line but they don't have any evidence of hacking. we did get a statement from the florida department of state, a spokeswoman said upon learning of the new information released in the mueller report, the department immediately reached out to the fbi to inquire which
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county may have been accessed and they declined to share that information with us. the florida governor has been more blunt. they won't tell us which county it was, are you kidding me? >> more to learn, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> there's a lot more ahead including president trump doubling down on his comments about charlottesville when he said there were quote fine people on both sides. we'll get reaction to that and much more when we continue. everyone's got to listen to mom. when it comes to reducing the sugar in your family's diet, coke, dr pepper and pepsi hear you. we're working together to do just that. bringing you more great tasting beverages with less sugar or no sugar at all. smaller portion sizes, clear calorie labels and reminders to think balance.
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