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victim of another hate crime. >> someone comes in with a rifle and starts shooting all over the place and you see your friend and family member not surviving, it's not the feeling that you want to feel on a daily basis. >> much more of that in a bit, but we begin this hour with a capital test of wills and a big question now that lawmakers are back at work. just how far did against want to go? the tine mick is the defining question in congress today and how the house democrats answer on three specific issues which will dramatically shape the next 18 months to two years look like. on infrastructure whether they will cooperate with the president at all is worth the price of progress. on impeachment, the question, again, is about balancing what the base wants versus what speaker nancy pelosi fears, a bad verdict from voters 2020 who

say that democrats crossed the line, betz but the urgent question this very hour. will democrats subpoena the president's attorney general? william barr says he won't show up for hearings if the democrats don't adhere to his demand and keep the committee lawyers away from the microphone but the chairman of the judiciary committee said yesterday barr doesn't get to dictate the terms of his own testimony. >> and the witness is not going to tell the committee how to conduct this hearing, period. >> what does it say if barr doesn't appear? >> then we'll have to subpoena and him and use whatever means we can to enforce the subpoena. >> let's get straight to cnn's manu raju on capitol hill who has been following this story. i've been watching this saturday night late when the rest of us weren't trying to work. the negotiations between administration officials and committee members is not new and with this degrees of contention, that is. you've got new reporting and

what's the actual status? >> democrats are going to demand that he appear and say that -- if committee lawyers want to question the attorney general, they are allowed to question the attorney general. tomorrow the house judiciary committee is going to vote on a democratic motion to allow for an additional hour of questioning at thursday's hearing, allow staff attorneys, if they want them to question, to be allowed to do so. the republicans are likely to oppose this effort tomorrow, but with democrats in control of that committee, expect that to pass. that will essentially set up a game of chicken, if you will. democrats plan to move forward with thursday's hearing, and they have not yet heard back from the attorney general about whether or not he will actually appear, but i'm told that he warned the committee that he would not appear at thursday's hearing if they go forward with this plan. he's objecting not just allowing to committee staff to question, but also democrats want to allow the full committee to see the unredacted report, sections of the report that were blacked out

that was released by the justice department. so far bar has only allowed 12 members to see a less redacted version of the report. he's not agreed to allow the full committee to see everything, so on multiple fronts this clash coming to a head, but we do expect to see barr before the senate judiciary committee led by republicans on wednesday even if thursday's appearance is still in doubt. phil? >> manu raju on capitol hill had. the clock is ticking. game of chicken, pretty anti-description. here to share their reporting an insights, julie pace with the associated press, sunkman kim and mary ball with "time" and nia-malika henderson. >> again, the negotiations aren't necessarily rare on something like this, but the degree to which they have reached to point of acrimony with a statement saying the attorney general aid period to apeeve before congress and therefore members of congress

should be doing the questioning. he's not too happy to engage with judiciary committee counsel and you are our resident hill ace. how does this end given what is supposed to happen on thursday? >> this week is going to be such an excalculation scalation betw and the administration. do democrats have to go ahead and subpoena for his testimony is really going to mark the turning point in how aggressive or how much more ramping up that democrats do in oversight and perhaps even in those impeachment proceedings and you'll recall that the quarterbacks is very much divided on the impeople of question even after the redacted mueller report was released, the conduct and the contact between the russians and his campaign. however, there are so many other areas in which the president has -- and his

administration have declined to cooperate all together with congressional democrats. the barr testimony and everything related to the mueller report is the main focus, but a week from today is the third deadline for the president to turn over his tax returns to the house ways and means. lawmakers are going to be questioning the white house's former personnel -- director of the personnel office, though we'll see how much details mr. carl klein will be willing to give to democrats, so it will be quite the week to watch. >> yeah, look. it's a great point because the context of this is important. the framing of what happened in the two-week recess that essentially wasn't. every other day the white house was saying no or being defiant saying we'll agree to democratic requests. julie, what's your sense from the white house perspective right now? is this a hard and fast line, or is this part of a broader negotiation on all oversight basically? >> the administration is basically taking a just say no strategy to all of the investigations. it's pretty amazing if you think

about the level of tension that we have over something as relatively straightforward as the attorney general going to capitol hill to testify. imagine that when we start talking about some of the folks who are -- who are administration officials who are mentioned in the mueller report. the taxes is another perfect example as mentioned. anything that congressional democrats ask for right now, whether it's relatively straightforward or quite detailed, the administration is going to say no. they went back to the bill clinton white house in the way the clinton white house handled requests from congress at the time which was similar. they were quite defensive. they tried to resist most asks for in-person appearances, for documents. they think that worked out well politically for bill clinton, and as they eye the president's re-election campaign they think this will set him up in a similar position making it look like the democrats are doing nothing but launching politically motivated attacks, politically motivated investigations and requests. >> yeah. it's a good point because i

think legally the question is whether or not this is a dubious strategy but legally it will take months if not years message-wise and take a listen to how white house press secretary sarah sanders handled this today. >> look at the outrageous behavior of the house democrats who are asking for things that they know they can't have, that they know they have no legal authority, have and frankly they are just acting really childish. it's almost embarrassing. >> so nia, one of the questions that i have is how do democrats respond? we've seen letters and threats and they are back now. this gets real now. what's the next step for democrats now more broadly? >> it's unclear. it's unclear how this all plays out. it's unclear if the escalating threats around subpoenas and in contempt of congress actually work or are even sort of calling out republicans falling in line with this white house. the white house is essentially saying that congress doesn't have any oversight ability or

oversight authority, and it's not just with mueller, with the sort of documents that you hear sarah huckabee sanders talk about. it's calling somebody stephen miller before congress to talk immigration policy. it's about this idea about adding a citizenship question to the census without national security in terms of the really seems to be a pretty hard and fast line, not only with documents related to mueller, documents related to the president's taxes but any number of issues. it's unclear what had the democrats can do other than issue these threats around contempt, issues threats around subpoena and the republicans seem pretty dug here. donald trump among this, of course. >> one of the things i've been seeing in the last couple of weeks is there's a tension that nancy pelosi is trying to make

sure her caucus stays in line, that they can investigate through a number of means and yes, there's a majority of democrats that want to lean towards impeachment but when you look at the broader numbers and under penalty they are not quite there yet. what is the management practice like now that democrats are back on capitol hill? i would expect a lot of democratic freshmen in town halls saying we're not hearing anything about impeachment and there's got to be frustration. >> interesting to see that the number among democrats has been so low. it has been higher at certain points of the trump administration, the number of rank and file democrats in polls that want to proceed with impeachment and that's really testament to the messaging that speaker pleasy in particular has done thus far. she's drawn a very hard line and been very aggressive in coming and saying she does not want impeachment to be a priority. never taken it off the table and she's taken this hard line and that's convinced a lot of her party's base actually to cool it a little bit, and certainly so

far she's been able to keep the caucus in line. we did see after the mueller report that there were a couple of more members who were willing to say pubically they favored impeachment, but what you don't really see is the members who want impeachment pushing hard for it to start now. they are saying we want to get there, and some of them are saying we don't, but they are not -- they are not criticizing the speaker for not -- for not moving faster, and that's when i think you would really see a fracture is if there was a group that thought they needed to be more aggressive especially syringes as julie was saying, the white house has forced the democrats into a much more aggressive posture than they originally planned to take. the plan was to cooperate as much as possible and only issue subpoenas when they absolutely had to, but since the white house has determined that they are going to stonewall everything, that's going force the democrat to subpoena these witnesses, and these fights will end up in court, and we'll see how the d.c. circuit interprets

the congress' subpoena power and the precedents there, but those fights are going to -- are going to have a disposition in court, and that will determine who has to come before those committees. >> yeah. that's right. a lengthy process, but a real important point there for all the bold kind of headline grabbing, people who want impeachment and are pushing impeachment. not a big number. up next, a return to somber breaking news in california where a synagogue prepares to bury their congress gant killed at a weekend shooting.

who could imagine this. our thoughts and prayers are with the victims. >> somber moment on capitol hill this morning. the beginning of holocaust remembrance week and the tragic shooting at a synagogue in sega.

lori kaye who was killed blocking the rabbi from the gunman will be remembered at a funeral service today and what was a tragic day may have been worse if not for a combat veteran who ran towards the gunshots. >> as soon as i ran to the lobe i didn't see anybody except for the shooter and i let out a scream that was unbelievable from what i understand. people said they thought it was like four people, a chorus of men screaming at once. the priest at the church next door said he heard this scream, you know, and i don't even know how i did that, so as soon as i saw the gunman he discharged his rifle twice and i was going toward him and when i got to him i screamed in his face and he dropped his weapon to the side. he immediately took off running. >> two others who were wounded in the attack are all home now from the hospital. president trump said i spoke at

length to rabbi goldstein and sent my warmest condolences to all those affected in california. the rabbi says the president's california was, quote, so comforting, and the politics and the president and all of that in a minute but that's a broader discussion to have about the anti-semitism and the rise of these types of terror attacks of people across faith across multiple different reegz and we'll start with a person of faith who goes to church and doesn't really think about safety. i think about the fact that i'm in church with my family and the fact that this has become such a dangerous issue and we're trying to figure out how we're supposed to think about this at this moment. where do you come down on where the country is right now on this issue? >> yeah, i think people are afraid and we should be afraid. if you look at what's been happening, the synagogue shooting.

black churches have been burned in louisiana. i think there were three or four arrested there and obviously what happened in new zealand. it's a frightening time. there does seem to be a question of is this a rise in white nationalism? going against people of jewish faisst, black worshippers and in particular you've seen some of the presidential candidates come out and talk about there needs to be a look at the rise of white nationalism and white supremacy and more on gun control. people i know who go to church and go to synagogue, they want to know what is going on and what it means for people's personal safety as they are going to houses of worship during the week?

>> this has been spread on to the campaign trail. think about what democrats had to say about this issue broadly. >> this is our moment to define how we will be defined, by calling nazis and klansmen very fine people. >> no. >> no, we're going to be defined by a smallness or pettiness or hatred or racism. >> i agree that that this comes out of hate. hate that has been most pure in the last two years >> there's particular statistics on the rise of white nationalism, and there's anti-semitism on both sides, and there's -- how do we work through this issue in a political context? >> well, i think that the idea

that the president is a divisive one and not a unifying figure is going to always be a main theme of all the democratic campaigns, and you saw that with joe biden's announcement, right, which obviously preceded this attack, but which focused on the charlottesville march and -- and the bloodshed there, so i think that was something that -- that the democrats were already focused on. it's not a particularly divisive issue among democrats. they pretty much all agree that the nation needs healing and needs a president who will do more to bring people together rather than push people further and further apart, and you mentioned guns as well. we've seen a dramatic turnaround in the politics of gun control just in the last few years, and part of it is a well funded and more and more active gun control movement, but part of it is that feeling that there are so many more places that people don't

feel safe, although sending your sending your child to school, something you ought not to have worry about, or walking in a church or synagogue, something you ought not have to worry about and the feeling that americans have despite a low crime rate and booming economy people sense there's instability and danger out there in america. >> no question about it. much more on this to come throughout the day on cnn. up next, joe biden prepares for his first launch into the campaign with the preview of a message. i landed. i saw my leg did not look right. ♪ i was just finishing a ride. i felt this awful pain in my chest. i had a pe blood clot in my lung. i was scared. i had a dvt blood clot.

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joe biden holding the campaign trail in earnest. he'll hold his first rally at at union hall in pittsburgh and then to pittsburgh and south carolina and take a look at biden's deputy campaign manager and see if you can pick up what the campaign wants to focus on. >> today he's here in pittsburgh to roll out his vision for an inclusive middle class to make sure that everybody who works hard in this country gets built into the deal and to remind people that, you know, it's the middle class that built the country. it's not ceos or hedge fund managers or bankers. it's the middle class. >> subject the middle class. joining his fellow democratic

democratic contenders rejecting money from super pacs. to speak the middle class we want to reject the super pac system. that's two days after the biden campaigned announce it had made $6.3 million after announcing. that's the biggest amount in all of the one-day amounts collected by his rivals in the democratic field. the former vice president will speak in pittsburgh in a few hours. another snapchat, what about americans, and what's this like outside the biden camp? >> well, after months of will he or won't he run, i think what joe biden and his team are eager and happy to finally be part of the deal and today they are focusing on the message that you heardcati hea

heardcating bedingfield talking about strengthening the middle class and one of the things he might talk about at the union hall. he tweeted saying i am sick of this president bad-mouthing labor, bad-mouthing unions. they have talked about minimum wage, overtime and the 40-hour workweek. i lost the tweet for a moment, but basically biden is going to be trying to promote this second pillar for his entire candidacy. we're here in pennsylvania, a key battleground state that democrats lost back in 2016. joe biden and his team believe that he could be someone that can win over the working class voters and bring them back to the democratic column going forward in 2020. >> from the campaign trail where she will be for a long time. thanks so much for your great reporting. i want to talk about pennsylvania and the democratic field and all that type of stuff and i want to talk president president's twitter account because if you pull up the

president's tweets this morning, it also appears that joe biden is living rent-free currently in the president's head as you see in one, two, three, four. what's going on here, julie pace? what's the strategy here from the president? >> i don't think it's rocket science to figure out what's going on here. i mean, joe biden is on the president's mind, and we know this from talking to advisers, from talking to about the people who have talked with the president about 2020. he and his team see biden as one of their biggest threats, and that's in part because of a state like pennsylvania. you know, trump's path to victory in 2016 and again in 2020 is actually pretty narrow. he is going to have to basically repeat what he did in beating hillary clinton which is picking off states like pennsylvania and wisconsin and michigan, these states that have leaned towards democrats in recent elections, but you saw white working voters who sided with trump. liked that economic message and the populism that they had and they think joe biden is someone who could pull those voters

back. certainly a state like pennsylvania, biden, you know he's from scranton. he mentioned it all the time. they feel like that, you know, joe biden could take that state back and perhaps repeat what he could do there in a place like wisconsin and michigan and then suddenly trump's map is gone, so trump i think is going to be pretty aggressive going after the former vice president in this primary. today is a taste of what we'll see for months to come. >> i want to pull up "the washington post" poll about where things stand. who is the front-runner and who is up and who is done and apparently the front-runner is from the state of no opinion. it's 43%. it's early, and i keep trying to tell people it's very, very early, but these are obviously important moments. northern-of-money is important and issues are important, biden focusing on the middle class and what's your read on where things stand broadly in this primary?

>> clearly democratic voters are shopping around for their options and checking out every candidate that they can. a lot of biden's front-runner status likely has to do with the name recognition. virtually everybody knows him. he served as the vice president for eight years, and he had a pretty good first couple of days with those eye-popping first-day numbers and clearly making a clear contrast with the president and particularly appearing to make president trump a little bit nervous, again, if you look at his twitter account, but sometimes, know, the first day of your campaign might be the best day and even the first days of the former vice president's former campaign was rough. we talked several times about his interview on "the view" where he stridently refused to directly apologize for his handling of the anita hill hearings and some other issues as well, and you are already having his other -- his other challengers make really direct and sharp contrasts with the former vice president on the campaign trail. they are not attacking him over

anita hill. they are not attacking him over other issues, and they are really trying to draw these sharp contrasts on policy. i thought what elizabeth warren was saying when it comes to joe biden on the first day of his campaign was really striking when she said that joe biden was on the side of credit card companies and i wasn't, and that is about as big of an insult from elizabeth warren as you can get. >> no question. and nia, that's one of the things i've been wondering. obviously the president has elevated this fight with his tweets and comments. democrats are also going after the vice president. does this help him, sore that going to be a serious problem for him in the weeks and months ahead? >> you know. in some ways it helps him because he wants to see this as joe biden and everyone else, joe biden and the left wing of the party and joe biden against donald trump, donald trump doing him that favor, getting drawn into the charlottesville conversation but then repeatedly going after him, coming up with his nickname that he thinks

highlights his age even though they are both senior citizens. donald trump and joe biden, i guess about four years apart there, and so that's one of the things he's obviously trying to do in that union message trying to essentially say, listen, the leadership of unions might say one thing, but he's got the rank and file, and we did see that play out in 2016. the leadership going with hillary clinton in many ways and rank and file folks often going with donald trump. so we'll see. we'll see what kind of candidate joe biden is. we have seen this before, him obviously launching for the presidency and not doing so well and esentially stumbling out of the gate. he'll be talking to robin roberts at some point and we'll see if he's able to clean up the anita hill non-apology apology. a lot of people think he needs to. he doesn't think he's her an apology, but in a primary that

rubs through the south and through african-american women and women in particular you wonder about the high-profile fight with anita hill doesn't do him really good with that skwensy, but he does do well with a fair amount of the democratic constituency which is older voters. going after that aggressively. >> not a story that's going away and it's also very, very early. >> exactly. >> all right. up next. what exactly did the united states promise north korea in exchange for the release of otto warmbier? one key u.s. negotiator speaks directly with cnn. phones down. just wont putr we need a solution. introducing... smartdogs. the first dogs trained to train humans. stopping drivers from: liking. selfie-ing. and whatever this is. available to the public... never. smartdogs are not the answer. but geico has a simple tip. turn on "do not disturb while driving" mode.

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topping our political radar today, more confirmations that the state department did in fact agree to pay north korea $2 million for otto warmbier's medical care before his eventual release in 2017. national security adviser john bolton saying sunday an agreement to pay was signed but that no money has been handed over as the president insisted on twitter on friday. this morning the former u.s. special representative to north korea told cnn bolton is correct and explained how he was involved. >> well, as soon as the north korean side told me that his bill for $2 million would have to be paid, of course, i contacted my boss, then secretary of state rex tillerson, to ask him, and he got in back to me very quickly thereafter to say, yes, go ahead and sign. >> is it your understanding that secretary tillerson had the president's approval for that? >> my understanding.

i never asked him, but that was my understanding. >> warmbier, you'll recall, had a aboutp had been in a coma and died just days after his release. tributes are pouring in for longtime republican senator richard lugar of indiana who died sunday at the age of 87. former president barack obama called lugar a problem-solving who always worked for the good of the people and he's been called one of the greatest statesmen to ever serve in the united states and president trump is being criticized and fact-checked after making incendiary remarks about abortion at a campaign real. the president was talking about a state bill in wisconsin and the democratic governor is planning to veto it that would mandate doctors and nurses do all they could to keep a baby alive if it was quote, unquote born alive. critics say the bill is problematic because it would apply in rare cases even when the fetus is not viable and could not survive outside the

womb. the bill will penalize anyone who let's a baby die and here's what the president claimed on saturday. >> the baby is born, the mother meets with the doctor and they take care of the baby. they wrap the baby beautifully and then the doctor and the mother determine whether or not they will execute the baby. i don't think so. >> his claim there that mothers and doctors are permitted to execute a baby after it leaves the womb is simply incorrect. there's one thing i wanted to quickly check on and that was north korea. julie pace, you are very in tune with all of our foreign policy coverage. what is the deal here? was this is a promise made that was supposed to be kept? is it supposed to be kept? may this kept at this point? >> it's a little confusing as we try to unravel what happened with the situations for the north koreans. we know there was a request from

the north koreans for the u.s. to pay for otto warmbier's medical treatment. even though that sounds so jarring, actually not completely unusual when you have these hostage situations, and i think what we're piecing together from the administration side is that the president authorized the u.s. to at least say they would do that in part they wanted to get warmbier back. it was really unclear what his condition was at the time. obviously he ended up passing away after he was returned to the united states. so it's really peeling back the curtain on some of the more unsavory parts of the negotiations over trying to get hostages released. >> yeah. you talk with people who work in any capacity in north korea and says this kind of stuff comes up on a regular base which is it happens and money obviously hasn't been repaid and would theo warmbier did return home. up next, the president's handling of some key issues and how it may factor in his re-election chances. of credit card payments? it's time to get a personal loan from sofi.

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the president's political team courtesy of a new "washington post"/abc new polls. let's start with the not so good. commander chief's job approval rating stand at 42% approve and 54% disapprove. among registered voters a whopping 52% say they would not vote for the president in 2020. that would seem to be problematic but if you believe in the theory that presidential elections are about the side of the american wallets, then this is a number you can probably cake to the bank. 42% of the voters say the president's handling of the economy makes them more likely to pull the lever for him in 2020. that's the stock market and gdp and job numbers, all very, very good, but there's immigration and what the president believes versus what the polls actually show. 42% in this poll say the president's handling of the immigration makes them more likely to oppose him and the president still thinks it's his best issue which is why you hear

this from him on the campaign trail. >> the radical left democrat party would drive our nation into economic and financial ruin very quickly. nothing is more dangerous than the democrats' crazy immigration agenda. their entire party has been taken over by far left radicals who want to nullify and erase american borders. they want open borders. they want open borders. they want people to pour in, and they think that's going to be votes ultimately for them. >> you wrote about this, seung min, and you're batting lead-off for us, whether you like it or not. look, you can campaign on two or three issues or four issues or five issues at once. that's not a new thing, but big thing is the president focuses a ton on immigration which obviously he believes is crucial for his base when you have every

other republican in town and the country saying the economic numbers right now are extraordinary and polls actually back that up so what's the disconnect? >> i mean, immigration and so many other issues is just something that the president has fixated on and you're absolutely right. i don't know how many times republicans on capitol hill have told us, you know, they wish that the president would just focus on the economy so talk about the tax cut and how about deregulation has helped the economy and put down the phone and stop tweet, but yet it is his economic message and a lot of the good economic news gets drowned out so often when he pivots to immigration or surprises republicans like let's do another effort to repeal the affordable care act. because those economic numbers are pretty strong for republican voters in our poll that was released this morning, it's by far the clearest motivator for republican voters to get out again and support him. 78% of republicans say it makes them more likely to support him and there was a ten-point margin

of voters, all register vote, who say the economy makes them more likely to support him. there's also a ten-point margin among independents which is a really important number but, again, the president has tendency to veer off into controversial stances or remarks about immigration or healthcare, and that's something that people around him really want him to just kind of set aside and focus on a very strong economic message which they believe will help him in the blue states, michigan, wisconsin and pennsylvania that he needs for his re-election bid >> you mentioned he canary, the poll numbers clearly make clear that healthcare as an issue for republicans make republicans more likely to oppose him. is the president going to campaign in 2016? the team is in a very different place, a real a ratus, but does their message follow in line, this is who he is and what we're getting and how it's going to be in. >> the trump campaign is far

more built out and professionalized for 2020 than it was-ins 2016, and obviously the president did not conduct his 2016 campaign according to or at least in obedience to what he saw in the polls. he went by gut instinct and that gut instinct turned out to be right or right enough to capture the electoral college which he would certainly like to repeat. when you see the trump campaign building for 2020. it is an apparatus and an on-the-ground organization and they know better to build out a messaging operation that tries to steer the president in a particular direction because it's abundantly clear that nobody tells the president what to say. when you get to immigration, democrats would like to see a repeat of 2018 when the president abandoned his handlers' preferred messagesing on the economy and go after the wall and care advance front and

center and democrats believe that only helped them recapture the house of representatives, even if, you know, republicans gained seats in the senate so we'll see what happens in 2020 and which of those messages is successful, but even to be at 42% on the economy is not great for a republican president who is a businessman whose signal achievement is the tax cut. >> if he talked about it more, it might help the process and the numbers. he's the president of the united states and pretty much decides what he's going to do. new polling shows democrats are decidedly, as we showed earlier, undecided. ♪ applebee's bigger, bolder grill combos. now that's eatin good in the neighborhood.

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breaking news this hour. proof of life for the rarely seen terrorist who leads isis. isis media released a new propaganda video showing its leader abu bakar al bahardi, the first to show him on camera in five years and we know the video is reese rent because he mentioned battles in syria which took place in march of this year. more on this development at the top of the hour. when it comes to 2020 democrats are decidedly, yes, undecided n.gnaw "washington post"/abc poll half of all democrats and democratic leaning independents didn't name anyone who would get their vote if the election were held today. as for those who did name one, joe biden leads the pack with 13% of voters picking him and bernie sanders is second with 9% and south bent mayor pete buttigieg makes the top three with 5% and there's kamala

harris and elizabeth warren rounding out top five. by far the biggest number in the poll, 47%, who have no opinion whatsoever and nia, because you were the expert in all things you'll be our closer, mariano rivera, for the last few minutes of the show. you've been on the trail and have talked to people. what's going on right now in the democratic primary? >> they are waiting. they want to hear from the folks and hear what their policy proposals are. they also want to know who is going to beat donald trump, but they won't know that until they see these folks perform, perform on the trail and perform in television interviews and perform on the debate stage so that's what you hear. go to any of these rails, even if you're going to a beto rally or a kamala harris real. some people have committed but very few have. they very much want to test everybody out and very much pace attention and they are very much in wait and see mode. they are basically going to volume these candidates and see who is the best person in 2020

to beat donald trump. >> what had a novel idea before picking and actually deciding. still nine, ten months away from the iback caucuses. thanks for joining us on "inside politics." brianna keilar starts right now. >> i'm brianna keilar live from cnn's washington headquarters, and we begin with breaking news. isis has released a video purported to be of its leader abu bakar al baghdadi who has not been seen for five years, since 2014. i want to start with clarissa ward at the pentagon and barbara starr. how do you know that this is something that's timely? >> reporter: well, we know it's timely because there's a