quick programming note, next thursday may 9th at 8:00 p.m. i'll be hosting a live town hall with james comey. looking forward to. the news continues right now, immaterial to hand it over to the colbert cuddler chris cuomo. >> heavy charge, anderson, and i accept it. welcome to prime time, this president told vladimir putin today that the mueller probe was a hoax. he then joked with the media about how putin disrespected the probe. he also refused to address any future interference with the man who was still actively trying to interfere with our democracy, and he decided to accept putin's claim that he wants to have nothing to do with venezuela despite the united states

secretary of state saying the opposite just days ago. how is any of that okay? we have a foreign affairs committee member who may breathe some fire tonight, the democrat is also on the committee that has set monday as the new deadline for the full mueller report. what happens to the a.g. if it doesn't happen. and let's get after it was supposed to be our thing, now it's just becoming a thing. >> chris cuomo, let's get after it. >> how did that happen? the story behind the wackiest appearance of my life. only in america, kids, let's get after it. >> the president of the united states was asked if he confronted the man who was actively trying to interfere in our democracy like right now. here's his answer.

>> we didn't discuss that. really we didn't discuss it. >> now, more troubling may be what they did say to each other. we have congressman david sis lee knee, member of the democratic leadership on the foreign affairs and judiciary committees. great guest for tonight, thank you for making it happen. if people knew the communications chaos that has been going on and yet it all worked out, thank the lord. it's good to have you. >> great to be with you. >> so you know, you can't make it up sometimes, congressman. he says to putin the probe was a hoax. they joke about how it started out as a mountain and became a mouse. he didn't talk to him ant not interfering anymore, and he says that he believes that putin wants nothing to do with venezuela despite our own intel people and our secretary of state telling him that's not true. how do you explain it?

>> well, i think, again, chris, this is another example of the president of the united states appearing to sort of cozy up to vladimir putin trying to make excuses for his bad behavior, unwilling to confront him when he skrurundermines american nat security interest, and you have to wonder why. here is a report from the special counsel that details a very extensive sophisticated campaign led by vladimir putin to attack american democracy for the benefit of donald trump at the expense of hillary clinton, and lays out in a lot of detail how they did that. they continue to do it. the president of the united states, this is his first conversation with vladimir putin. you would expect he would say how dare you attempt to interfere with the american democracy and with the presidential election. don't you ever do it again and assert that there would be consequences. but instead, he's sort of using vladimir putin's talking points. it's a hoax. it started out as a mountain. now it's a mouse or whatever he

said. just undermining the intelligence of national security communities and the seriousness of the threat. it's very disappointing but not surprising. >> senator amy klobuchar was on tonight, obviously she's running for president, senator out of minnesota. listen to what she said. >> we have another presidential election coming up, and this president has every reason not to protect that election. >> that is a heavy allegation, senator. what are you suggesting? >> because the last way this was handled appeared to benefit him. >> i'll tell you what, i wouldn't ask it with as much gusto tonight after what he said to the russian president. her main point was, you know, we had a bipartisan bill here. she and jim langford put it together. the white house pushed back on it. they didn't want to put in place what these two bipartisan senators believed were necessary to secure the next election with paper backup ballots just in case the poaching of any votes

works. how do you explain that? >> you explain it because chris, the president has made it very clear that anyone who raises the issue -- remember secretary knenielsen anyone who raises th issue of russian interference in our democracy, the president reacts very badly to that because he perceives that to question his legitimacy of holding office instead of saying whatever you think about me i'm going to lead the effort to make sure we secure this democracy, make sure no foreign adversary gets involved in in way, but the president hasn't done that. and you're right in the mueller report the special counsel says although he may not have proved conspiracy, the trump campaign understood they would benefit electorally from the misconduct and the attack from the russians. >> that's what mueller found. >> there's no question the president understood that. >> i'll give you that on russian interference. he has to talk this way because if he talks about it too much, if he indulges it too much, he believes it's bad for him. >> i'm not saying he has to talk about it that way, i'm saying

that's why he has failed to provide leadership on this issue. >> i'm with you. >> because he's so insecure. >> you're not providing an excuse. you're giving an explanation. >> that's right. >> but it doesn't work for me on venezuela, and i'm obviously i'm asking not because he's a democrat, he's going to have to figure out what to do about this. on venezuela, listen to what he said. >> we talked about many things, venezuela wastopics, and he is not looking at all to get involved in venezuela other than he'd like to see something positive happen for venezuela and i feel the same way. >> he feels the same way? he doesn't want to do anything, he doesn't want to interfere. they've got 100 troops on the ground. the secretary of state just said the opposite. what do you do about that in your capacity? >> first of all, i have actually introduced legislation that we've already passed in the foreign affairs committee that would prevent the president from engaging in a military action in venezuela without congressional

authorization. the last thing we want is another war without congressional authorization for a long period of time. this is a real example of where the president's fondness for vladimir putin, hard to explain why, is really affecting the national security interests of the united states. the russians have helped to prop up nicolas maduro, a brutal dictator in venezuela. if anything but for their involvement he would have been long gone and there would have been a transition to new leadership. the president saying vladimir putin saying he wants what's best for venezuelas. if you think the brutality of maduro is what's best for venezuelas, i guess you can believe vladimir putin. this is naivety or something worse. it's an effort to explain way the thuggish behavior of vladimir putin and somehow believe him over your state department officials, your intelligence community. this is a pattern. you have to wonder why. why is the president so willing to excuse the conduct and give the benefit of the doubt to a person who attacked our democracy.

>> now let's bounce the ball the other way. if on monday the a.g. does not give you the full unredacted mueller report, what are you going to do? >> on monday if the attorney general does not give us the full unredacted report, the judiciary committee, i expect the chairman will make this final decision, but my expectation is we will file a contempt resolution or notice of contempt resolution. the committee will find the attorney general in contempt of a lawful subpoena. that actually would go to the floor of the house. that would then authorize not only a finding of contempt, but authorize a court action for enforcement of the subpoena. >> that could mean the sergeant of arms like going and arresting him. do you really want to do that? do you really want to put the a.g. in jail over a political dispute? >> it's not a political dispute. let's be clear about this. this is about a central function of congress. our oversight responsibility is completely dependent on our ability to compel the production of documents and to compel the appearance of witnesses to testify under oath. if the executive branch is allowed to just say no, then it

will effectively extinguish congressional oversight. our founding fathers did not contemplate that. it's an important constitutional responsibility. we have to do our job and collecting evidence is essential to that. there would be a court proceedings in which case mr. barr would be in contempt if he didn't comply, and the court would have the ability to impose penalties and ultimately take the witness into custody if they fail to reply. no one wants that. what we want is the production of the documents, so my hope is that the attorney general will think about this and will understand his obligation to share those documents with congress as has been the past practice. it shouldn't get to litigation or anything like that. we've got to get this information. we need to have these documents, and we need to have witnesses come before the committee and testify under oath. >> look, i get it. i get the need for oversight and accountability. you've got to get the caution of overreach because the last thing we need is for the temperature to get any hotter than it already is. congressman, on a friday with all the drama that went into

your hit, thank you so much for making it all worth, an important time to have you, be well. >> you be well also. the president looked at this new report from the "new york times" about how and to what lengths our intel agencies went to surveil papadopoulos when word came to them from the australian diplomat about what he was talking about about what russia had. he looked at it and he said spying, it's over. the worst i've ever seen since watergate except in reverse. is it? we're going to test what they told us happened, what the facts are with phil mud, former intelligence boss for this government next. last year, the department of veteran's affairs partnered with t-mobile for business, to help care for veterans everywhere. with va video connect, powered by t-mobile,

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claritin-d relieves 8, including sinus congestion and pressure. claritin-d relieves more. wheel we've been in commercial we've gotten some breaking news. cnn can report that north korea has apparently fired, tested a short range ballistic missile. now, let's bring in phil mudd. we're lucky to have him tonight. he worked in the government with the fbi and the cia. he understands these things were very thin on information. i can't even tell you what direction they sent it in, but do what you're best at. give us the right questions to ask on this news. >> the message isn't about the missile, it's about what kim jong-un, that is the leader of north korea is telling us about future negotiations. we go through a failed conversation he had obviously in southeast asia with the president recently. kim jong-un comes out after saying he's going to freeze his nuclear programs and pops off a

short range missile. that's not a threat to america, he's not trying to suggest he's going after alaska or hawaii or guam what he's sending a message to the white house is look, you treated me as an equal, if you want to talk we better talk. if you don't want to get serious, i've got options. my first option is a short range missile. maybe the second option nuclear test. he wants to come back to the table and he expects the president to treat him as a pro and an equal. >> the only other piece of information i have right now for you is they say it came from the east coast, which obviously the waterside coast. did they ever come from the west coast? is that relevant? >> no, i suspect they're just shooting it in the ocean. an indication, and we have very little information, i understand that, an indication that they're not threatening a land mass popping it off into the ocean. maybe they'll say it was a test, but after that failed meeting with president trump -- and remember, kim jong-un was just on a train to see vladimir putin. >> right. >> complaining about his

conversations with president trump, you cannot view this as a missile test. you've got to view this as a message to washington saying show back up to the table and you better bring your a game this time. a-game means if you want us to give something up in north korea, you better prepare to give something up on sanctions. you give, we give, it's not a one-way street from the north korean perspective. >> so how do you figure the idea of the president meeting with putin, they said they talked about north korea the same day kim jong-un does this? what does that mean? >> i think there's a pretty simple story here, that is putin wants to remerge on the global stage. he's got a lot of friends we don't like, the venezuelans, the iranians, the syrians, the north koreans. he wouldn't have known about this, i guarantee that, but he's got a simple game here that involves the president of the united states. that is when kim jong-un comes to the table, he's going to have his team behind him. that's the chinese, and that's that emerging player who wants to counter us.

that's putin. what putin's doing in his conversations with kim jong-un is saying forget about the fall of the wall. forget about the decline of the soviet union, forget about you guys dising us for 25 years, we're back in the game. one of the pieces of the game, we're going to be there with kim jong-un when he talks to you about nucs and missiles. >> if they give me any more information, i'll come to you on it. listen, "new york times" comes out with a report. your ex-brothers and sisters in the fbi were so worried about what they heard from that australian ambassador about what george papadopoulos was telling them that some russian had told him about what, you know, they could have on hillary clinton or on the democrats or whatever that not only did they enlist the help of an informant that professor in the u.k., but they brought an investigator from the united states over to the u.k., and of course you know how involved that is but the people who are watching should know that ain't easy, so it had to

involve british intelligence as well, and she posed as someone named azra turk, an assistant to that professor who's also an informant for the u.s. and met with papadopoulos and tried to get information that turned out to be unsuccessful. the president heard this and said spying. there it is. is it as simple as that? >> no, i'd go almost 180 degrees. in cities across america, phoenix, los angeles, atlanta, miami, since the beginning of time politicians including this country engage in corruption. let me give you an example of corruption. you sit on a city council and you send a construction individual, we'll steer a contract towards you to build sidewalks, to build roads, 50,000 bucks. that's the cost. some businessman walks into the fbi in any city across america and says there's political corruption here with the mayor's office with the city council, what does the fbi say? we're going to put an informant in there with the city council

member who appears to be corrupt that we have information on and see what we can find. i realize this is the president. i realize it's a sensitive case, but if you want to tell me that putting an informant on a political corruption case is somehow weird, i guarantee not only has that happened a million times in the fbi, but it's happening today in america in some city related to city council or state corruption. i guarantee you that's the way the business works. it's not uncommon. >> you're not supposed to lay off when it's a presidential campaign and it's an american citizen on foreign soil? >> no, i think there's a fair question here that's going to come out, and i think this will be painful. the question is not whether you can use an informant. the question is was the information from the foreign diplomat significant enough, clear enough, concise enough, hard enough for you to take an incredible step to say we're going to conduct an investigation of presidential campaign. if the information was good enough, yeah, you put an informant on the case. i think the question is going to be was the information good

enough to go down that path in a presidential campaign. boy, that's going to be a tough one, chris. i think it's going to go ugly. >> why? >> because i think there are going to be questions from the inspector general that the fbi is saying are you sure that information met a standard for looking into a presidential campaign. anytime the inspector general looks at a complicated case like this, they're going to find something wrong. the white house is going to then twist this and say the whole thing is dirty. i don't think that will happen, but as soon as the inspector general finds one speck of dirt, the white house is going to be on that like white on rice. >> you've got more experience with these things than i do, but when does an inspector general find absolutely nothing? they always find something that, you know, required for their questioning or maybe a little bit of a referral for more review or to look at how procedures went down? >> well, i think we've been around since 1776, and i suspect we're about 0 for 250 years.

inspectors general are there to say -- and we didn't like them. i mean, they're there to say this is how you can do something better. again, you look at this case, you look at the number of intern view -- interviews, the amount of data from e-mail, phones, financial data. you look at how the issue was handed with the white house, should you or should you not have interviewed the president of the united states. you look at the criticisms of james comey and what he was doing, and you think the inspector general is going to say this was a clean slate? no way. the question is how significant are the problems he finds, not whether he finds problems. he will. >> as i told people to get use to the phrase abuse of power about five months ago, and now we're starting to hear that on the political side. something else for them to hear, fruit of the poisonous tree. they're going to start hearing about that if this i.g. returns anything that raises significant questions about how this was done because that will mean that can you argue that anything that came out of this investigation is bogus because of how it

started was poison in the beginning? we'll see. phil mudd, thank you very much on a friday night. thank god you have no social life and were available. appreciate it. >> thank you. >> i'm just kidding. phil's a great guy. he wears so many different hatsment hats. he understands so much. he has been so important to us for so many years, and he's not on twitter, smart. the president is calling a female opponent nasty again. what is this going to mean for the waning number of women who support him? does nasty woman mean something that the president should get and not go there? that is the start of a great debate next. mom, what's for din-ner? just water. lots and lots of water. you wouldn't feed your kids just water, so why starve your plants? feed their hunger and get twice the results. new miracle-gro performance organics.

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horse face, low life, fat, ugly, nasty. you know what those are? words our current president uses to try to degrade women he's threatened by or just doesn't like, and yet one of them, well one of the many 2020 democratic candidates is now using that word the last one, nasty, to her advantage. that is senator kamala harris, and she's doing what she can to take on the president while other contenders like joe biden are taking heat for potentially insensitive comments as well. we'll get to that. this is not just one side tonight, but let's bring in our great debaters, van jones and niger. hasn't the president learned his lesson? why would he call kamala harris nasty? didn't he learn from the

campaign that that's seen as code as how he speaks about women? >> not necessarily. he was pretty straightforward when it came to his opponents be they men or women in 2016. you recall even carly fiorina he said would you wanted a woman like that -- >> i remember. >> you remember what he said about her, nevertheless at the end of the day he ended up getting a majority of white women's vote including a majority of college ettducated white women. i don't know that the president needs to pull back at all, from comparing i.c.e. to the kk to the way she went after barr, to the way she went off jeff sessions before, and because she happens to have a gender that is a woman, happens to be a minority does not mean that she should be admonished or not admonished for those things. she's running for the highest office in the land. >> van jones is in redemption mode as we know from his brilliant new series he's doing to try to show people can come together. what do you see in this one my friend? >> if we're going toe talk about

the female vote, 96% of african-american women voted against donald trump, the majority of women of color voted against donald trump, as long as we're going to talk about that. look, the reality is that, you know, kamala harris is a tough prosecutor. she's not nasty. she didn't call anybody any names. she didn't raise her voice. she was a tough, professional, disciplined prosecutor who rattled the attorney general and had his stumbling and stuttering and asking for help from his mom. it was just embarrassing. to call that nasty, i think is wrong on the facts. but there's this pattern wh whenever the president feels like somebody can pose a threat, especially a female he has a particular vocabulary for them he doesn't have for men. that's the reason people began to ask this question. you don't hear him using these types of word, used all kind of bad words against all people because that's his thing. i do think there's something there when it comes to gender.

>> i don't buy that. >> listen, i don't know what matters and what doesn't matter. i know what's right and i know what's wrong, and it is right for a sitting u.s. senator to use her prosecutorial skills to ask tough questions, and it is right for the president -- and it's wrong for the president of the united states to call people names all the time. >> i will do it one more step this way, i hear you that he's an equal opportunity offender. he doesn't do it the same way. you won't find him calling men the kind of things he's calling women. in fact, there's more of a playfulness to what he calls men than when he goes at women. he is just raw and hard when it comes to women, whereas with men it's like, you know, little marco, you know, and cheating this and sleepy that. with women it's ugly, horse face, blood coming from wherever. it's really ugly stuff. why? >> i don't think you want to ask jeb bush about how gentle donald trump was -- >> low energy jeb? >> low energy versus a horse

face? >> not only that he said his mother should be the candidate and not him. i mean, he was brutal to his opponents. that's the way donald trump rolls. that's the way he's rolled for many, many years. i don't see a double standard. >> you want a double standard? i'm about to contribute to a double standard right now, okay? and i'm aware of it, and i'm not really that happy about it, but i'm doing it anyway. in part because i've got two african-americans on the panel tonight, and i want your take on this. i'm just saying, just for the record and for the audience, i don't believe that what joe biden said should be mentioned the same way as what trump said about women and about kamala harris, but in the interest of fairness, he was talking about what he has done in the past to help women, and this is about what he said and how he said it. listen to the soundbite. >> through a program we had through community colleges we said, look, put together a program for us where we can teach people how to code so they went out literally into the hood, and they found, turned out

54 all women, the vast majority were women of color, no one with more than a high school degree. >> now, niger, in the interest of fairness, i'll even start with you first. do you believe that what joe biden said there and the way he said it was offensive to people of color? >> look, on my side of the line ideological line we are not politically correct, nor are we obsessed with identity politics to the same degree that my friends on the other side of the line are, and the problem is not from folks like us, i mean, you know, we may try to score a few political points because joe yet again has put his mint flavored chew in his mouth on this on china and the campaign has just got started, so looking forward to it, but no, it's not a big deal. i don't see it as racist. i see it as him trying to be lax. the question is, though, that radical hardcore identity

politics wing of the democratic party, which might comprise a majority of the base, do they find it offensive? >> i don't know about that. we just had a study that twitter left is not democratic party left. it's about 83 to 87% center left as opposed to more progressive or far left. van, what's your take? >> we'll find out soon. >> look, i don't have a problem with it. it's become like very, very common in the vernacular. wasn't it bernie sanders who said ghetto or? then everybody said no, we don't say ghetto we say in the hood. i think biden is probably closer to what people say on a daily basis than ghetto. so look, here's the deal. what we can't miss out on is that you've got a guy who cares about kids in an urban environment. he recognizes that they need to be red dady for the jobs of tomorrow. here you got somebody who's doing good work to help kids, and you know, i'm prud oud of w

he did. i don't care how he described it. >> i tell you what, if it is biden that gets the nomination, it will be a marriage made in heaven in terms of for him and the president, it will be a dream because the other one will say, well, look, i'm making gaffes but i'm not as bad as that guy, but you'll see this all day long. anyway, my friends, thank you so much, i was talking about the redemption project and i'm mentioning it again. van jones this sunday he is trying to tap into what is hardest but also often the best parts of humanity. 9:00 p.m. eastern and pacific. watch the show. it is amazing. the unemployment rate, 3.6%, lowest rate since the '60s. gdp growth good, a lot of people got a tax cutme.

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the president took a victory lap via twitter, writing unemployment rate falls the lowest since 1969. you know what? that's all true, and this will be the ninth straight career that the economy adds at least 2 million jobs, that's right, the ninth straight year. so what does that tell you? well, that's great, and this president has been in office for

two of them so this has been something that's going on. it's still good. there are a lot of good metrics, unemployment at that 50 year low, stocks soaring, where is the room for democrats to make room on the economy? former u.s. ray labor secretary, professor of public policy for the university of california at berkeley, mr. robert reish. >> hi, chris. >> with that, you will now start attacking my arguments, what do you say in response to what i lay out? >> the economy is good and undoubtedly trump is going to be trumpeting the economy, and to the extent that presidential elections won on the official economic statistics coming out of the dmt epartment of labor a the department of commerce he has a big advantage, but that's not where people are actually seeing the economy, i mean, when you look at the data, the aga aggregate data, it looks good

but most americans worried about health care costs, copayments, deductibles soaring, they're worrying about the cost of higher education. >> who will they blame? >> obviously they always blame whoever is in the white house, but they're also going to be attracted to democrats who have answers, who say look, we have a housing crisis. here's what we do about the housing crisis. yes, we have child care. you need child care, here's what we're going to do about it. democrats who have answers and a republican in the white house who only gives big tax breaks to corporations, that's the contrast that's going to be meaningful to average americans. >> let's step through it a little bit. one, are you with me in as much as while they can make that case, what joe biden did in front of that union crowd who said you didn't get a tax cut, you didn't feel it, did you? i know it depends on where you live and how much you make and how you file in which state, but to say nobody got one is just not true? >> no, some people did get one,

but the big tax cuts we know -- this is not something that is controversial, chris, the big tax cuts went to very rich people and to big corporations. >> true, $0.83 out of the dollar. >> the other thing about this that's very important is when corporations use the tax cut to buy back their shares of stock creating a kind of sugar high for the stock market, that helps the people who own a lot of stocks, and those are very rich people. >> true. okay, on health care costs, now, you could argue -- and i will for the sake of this, that the president won in part by saying that aca didn't deliver. it's still really screwed up. we can do better than this. people voted for it. why doesn't that continue through into this election. look, we've been trying to fix the aca and get rid of it. they won't let us these democrats, give me another four more years, give aus a bigger majority. >> in 2018 the american voters were very upset about even the possibility that the republicans were trying to take away the

pre-existing conditions part of health care. the republicans had years to come up with a replacement for the aca. they did not. they just -- they couldn't even repeal it. they talked about repeal and replace when donald trump was running for office. they didn't repeal it. they didn't replace it. i don't think there's any credibility there at all. >> medicare for all, is that going to be the best message for democrats? >> well, again, look at recent polls. 70% of americans are in favor of medicare for all including almost a majority of republicans. that's not a far left idea. >> they don't know what it costs. they don't know what it costs, rob. >> well, they don't know what it costs, but they know that they're paying huge amounts of money for copayments, deductibles and insurance, so even though it may cost the federal government a lot, in terms of how things average out, they are going to save more than it costs the federal government. >> but where is -- you know, look, we know this, i've been following you my whole life, and politics is simple, not

sophisticated in terms of messaging in campaigns. if he's coming and saying look at growth, look at the stocks, look at wages, things are good, how do you come at him on this issue? >> i think very easily, and i remember in the clinton administration in 1996 when bill clinton was running for re-election, actually, all the economic indicators were positive, but bill clinton when he went out and said everything's great, a lot of people said back, wait a minute, they're not great with me. you are out of touch with me and my personal economy. i think it's dangerous for republicans to go out and say things are wonderful, the economy is great, because so many americans are insecure. they are worried about their own personal economy, and it's not just health care and education and housing and everything else we've been talking about, it's also that more and more jobs are becoming insecure. they are not solid, the kind of old steady jobs we used to know in this economy, and therefore you have about 80% of americans, 80%, who are living paycheck to paycheck. this a new economy, and this is

not a -- what people would say a great economy for me. >> you know, it's interesting, based on what you said earlier in the segment, i wonder if -- and please give me your take on this, last thing i'll ask you -- if it's better for the democrats if they want to make advantage is focus on health care, focus on how people are being forced to spend their money and leave the battle over how the economy is aside. that's his highest number. the highest number for this president is about 56% approval on the economy. so stick to health care, don't fight about the tax cuts and the economy, you probably won't win. that's not your best place. >> i think that's right. i would not go to the aggregate statistics. i'd go down to kitchen table economics, health care, education, housing all the things people care about in terms of security about their own jobs. the public is not in the aggregate statistics coming out of the bureau of economic analysis or coming out of the bureau of labor statistics. >> you know what's so interesting, i remember when mr. trump, before he was president

trump, i used to interview him during the 2008 great recession, and he used to make those points. why do you keep bringing up the unemployment rate, it's about under employment, why do you keep bringing up the stock market, that's wall street. >> i hope you have those tapes. >> they're there, "good morning america" they are on. appreciate the insight, lets do it again. >> good to talk to you. you know what this show is about, right? we get after it every night. stephen colbert, however, a little skeptical last night, a little bit of a bully. wanted to test me, oh, yeah, that happened. that happened, and he said that he'll do the testing, and he thought that he'd get a little testy, and i think we need to test that, and let's do it with my main testadura. that means hard head in italian. d. lemon next on how this happened. mascara from l'oreal. the original brush separates every lash. our creamy formula, builds 5x volume.

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watch. >> what do you bench? what do you bench, chris cuomo? >> i bench colbert. >> i bet i could do more push-ups. >> i bet you could too. >> lets get after it. let's come on. >> 15, 16, 17, 18. >> it could have gone either way to be honest. it could have gone either way. let's bring in d. lemon, and before you -- >> 98, 99. >> before you speak. >> 100. >> what's the matter? you allergic to the ground? you only got to go halfway? >> i was just getting ready for the show, sorry about that. >> you allergic to the ground? >> sorry about that, i was just doing my preshow warmup there. >> how are your pants? >> i actually ripped them. >> yep, that's what i heard.

and no, don't show me. >> i was like wait, did i just rip my pants? >> that's what you get for buying those off brand suits. >> i'm not even going to say anything. you've got to stick with me. >> you know that ain't true. >> how did i do last night? >> i thought you did well. i thought you did well. i'm not going to tell stephen colbert -- i won't say on this program what you said about stephen. >> what did you say? >> you said man, he's heavy. >> he was much bigger than i expected him to be, and he's also much quicker and much smarter. you know, you see it on tv. you watch the clips, it's one thing, but watching it live is amazing how much material he goes through in his facility with the facts and what's going on. >> he's good. >> it's really impressive and funny and nice. >> do i have time to tell you, i had two experiences with him, once on the colbert show i did a skit with him. i did something on vampires and he called me in and brought me to new york and we did this

funny thing about vampires. this is way back. when then i guess six to eight months ago, i forget how long it's been, you're right, he challenges you, and he wants to know. i enjoyed the experience, but he was -- he's formidable, let's put it that way. >> he had a lot of fun with let's get after it. he insisted to know what the "it" is. >> i love you guys, you're like twins. did you guys see the uniforms, you're both in the white shirt and the dark pants? >> you have a white shirt on and dark pants too. >> no i have gray. he has on gray too. >> that's what i'm saying about you don, you're always looking for these kinds of things. >> is that when you threw your back out right there? >> i was worried. i'm a wreck. >> listen, i know you're joking but you know you had some issues recently. >> i have issues, they're like ongoing. >> i meant back issues. i could be making fun about you about the real issues you do have, but you have some back issues, and i have them too. >> i'm okay with my issues, especially this month, i'm okay with my issues.

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giving a pass to putin and we all know it. here is an arguable point. the president tweeted last night something that really deserved credit. here it is, excuse me, now republicans and dps must come together for the good of the american people. no more costly and time consuming investigations. let's do immigration, border, infrastructure, lower drug prices, and much more and do it now. you know what? good for him for encouraging progress, showing he wants to get into it with the other side, there are important issues and that's what a president should do. presidential right message. so why didn't you hear more about it.alof that potential virtue was defeated by what came

before it in the same tweet which is this. okay, so after two years of hard work and each party doing their best to make every party make the other look as worse as possible, the mueller report said there was no collusion and they were rebuffed at every turn. the parties are about opposing the other side, that aim is rewarded by many of you as voters. you get what you ask for. fair enough for the president to say it. the next line is not true and the president knows it. mueller never uses the word collusion because it is not a criminal law term. he found there was not enough for a reasonable doubt to keep them from conspireing with russia. that is good news that this is

not a russian agent. that the people around him were not actively working on those in the election. the president knows it because hes part of it. meetings that should not have happened, and not only were they not rebuffered at every turn, they were sought out. his son, son-in-law, campaign chair, they were all over russians, fact, many of them

lied about it. so, how can the call to come together be respected when it is predicated by a pompous pile of poppycock. this is the right hand being extended to shake after the left hand has smacked you. this is why the left won't work with the president. he engenders the animos by doing things like that. if he wanted to work together with anything, he never would have included the first part. but let's be honest, this is who he is. that is fine, he can placate putin, he can throw the country under the bus, and about venezuela. after his secretary of state appointee said that russia was helping miduro. >> we talked about many things, venezuela was one of the topics. he is not looking at all to get involved in venezuela other than he would like to see something positive happen for venezuela. i feel the same way. >> why does he keep taking this

guy's side. to get mention you need to own this other huge part of the reality. the president cut taxes, regulations, scuttled trade deals, and there are pluses and minuses to be debated there. now it is diplomats in epic and unprecedented fashion. he is given cover to one of america's biggest foes and he is doing all of that to help himself. you are surrendering, "cnn tonight" with d. lemon has lots to talk about tonight. >> you're going to be shocked and surprised. >> stop. >> i don't disagree with anything you said. >> only explained by you not listening. >> mark this down on your calendars, everyone, we agree on everything he said in his