as pastor mike says, it is not what jesus do, it is what jesus will do. these churches are empower and shape the world we live otherwise -- when we first did the show, you should know the whole idea of this show. a place where a black guy going to places he should not go. where should he go? i don't know, maybe we should go talk to the ku klux klan? that was their reaction and it got quiet. it may be good for raining. when i pitched the ku klux klan idea, i didn't think they would

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kku ku klku klu ku klux clan. my first is what the hell am i thinking is to meet with the arkansas leader of the kkk. according to the kkk rhetoric, there are a new clan in town. they're no longer antiblack, they're just prowhite. nothing says clan like hanging out with the black dude. here is a quick refreshment. the clan was founded after a civil war by a group of confederate soldiers, da. since then when ever it looks like black folks were getting into it, the clan came back. after the great depression, during the civil rights movement, and recently after this act.

>> barack obama, 47-year-old will be the president-elect trump tru of the united states. >> that black guy is not headed down the road in the middle of the night. i am here to meet with the arkansas leader of the k ku klux clan. >> how come this can't happen during the day again? all right, that's him with the head lights. >> this guy says he was coming alone. why did i believe him?

camera crew or not, this seems loo i c like a bad idea. >> i want to let you know, i am your crew. >> imperial wizard of the k ku klux klan. >> thank you for meeting with me. my question, the klan historically has been a group associated with violence. >> i am not associated with violence. >> i know, i am saying historically. >> don't you think why wearing the same robe is hard to separate those klans. >> i have the opportunity to wear a klansman's robe. why? because i am white and i believe in it. i was raised that way. the klan has a purpose in life

to recruit, qualify christians. so we understand each other. >> what means qualified? >> must be white or a christian. >> we are white. >> i am proud to be black. >> are you married to a black woman? >> i am married to a white woman. >> where is an original marriage? >> is it equal to that? >> so it is worst than murder. >> all right, i wish we can have this discussion on a sunny day where i can buy you a piece of pie where you did not have a mask on and we can talk about these things on a regular level. >> that's not happening. >> all right, you will stay

there. >> what dos the future of america the klan has to say. >> it is a part of history. >> it is going to be hard for me to get involved. >> the only way you are going to get involved of the ku klux ku klux klan. >> one thing i hope it will involve, it is thoord understha understand you maybe cut your mouth open a little bit. >> one step at a time. >> i am ikkk.org/5k. >> all right, have a good evening, drive safe. >> yes, i just told a klansman

to drive safely, i should have said y'all don't come back now. ya hear? >> let's get out of here. >> it was weird for me because they used the word "evolve." >> we evolve but people don't evolve. it is like you know -- i feel like the klan evolve from like this to this and now they're down here. it is a series of angrier monkeys upset with the rest of us walking around their hind legs, you know?

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the original member of temptation -- he dances hi his -- off. i can't just judge the klan by just one dude. i got to talk to more klan members. that's the first time a black guy says that in life. [ laughter ] >> my next stop on where are they now klan edition is dawson springs kentucky. walking the street, for decades, the kkk and near neo-nazi buddies have used the property outside for their rallies. the klan invited me to witness an actual cross burning. yes, i am the kkk vip. first, let me talk to the locals and see if they know that the ku klux klan is still in the hood.

>> it is a good place to live and raise kids. it is close to modern mayberry as you can use. >> would you recommend a black guy like myself buy a house here? >> sure, sure. >> yeah. we have heard there is a kkk president, does that happen here? >> it totally disappears. >> it is been over years. >> do you see black folks around here? >> when i was growing up, the kkk, it is right down the road. i have seen them around town. >> it is funny because you are the youngest person we talk to and we talked to some old people in town. >> they were not open about it like in the past. >> what if i was going on that road today, do you think it is a good idea? >> i would not be scared over it. >> i am saying me.

>> just like that i am off to sea the wizards. i am meeting with the ku klux klan. these guys claimed to be progressive. they let a black man watch the burning cross. crazy? but i can't let this go. as i turn onto the klan's property, i am greeted by a semiautomatic rifle. >> right up there. right around there. >> okay, thank you. >> i said thank you, i mean

thank you for not killing me with your big gun, sir. thank you. i had some dumb ideas. >> nice to meet you. kamau bell. >> nice to meet you. >> nice to meet you, too. >> no, not really, we may as well start with some small talk. >> this is kentucky. >> it is hot. >> yes, sir. the ku klux klan. >> now, i would imagine it is especially hot in these robes? >> oh, it is horrible. it is a sacrifice. the whole premise behind the mask is to show that we are equal. the mask makes it all equal in

each other's eyes. >> what do african-americans think of the klan? >> obviously, black people in the klan have had issues to put it lightly. me coming out here to talk to you guys is not something that my mother dreamed of. obviously that's a thing and i respect the fact that you let me come out here and i will show respect the fact that you let me leave. >> i can tell you -- >> it is a direct action group. if you come at us, we'll come back at you. we are not plolitical correctnes or something. if you try to hurt our one of our members, we'll hurt you. >> i understand. >> we only work on our race. the other mud races -- leave us alone. that's all i got to tell you, just leave us alone. >> mud races? >> there is got to be a funny come back for that? i got nothing. maybe try talking to the other

imperial wizard here. >> jim sheelly did not cover his face. >> have you had any black person here? >> no, you are the first. the first man or woman trying the join the group is hi to burn the cross. >> don't burn it by cross lighting. >> how often do you do this? >> you would not want to do it -- it makes it less special. you can have champagne but not everyday. >> the nicest time to do it is in the full moon. >> that sounds like a klan's postcard. >> yeah, it does. if i am going to send out postcards for christmas, i would want something like that. >> if you do that, you don't have to give me credit for the idea. >> why these guys are lighting,

what do you love about the white race? >> god created us. it tells us not to mean of the beast of the field. >>s you don't take a race force to and make it to a meal. >> do you feel like our iqs are in an even place? >> i believe we are having a great dialogue. >> please don't double down it for me. i will try to keep up. >> we follow the teachings of the lord. if the lord says it is bad then we'll say it is bad. >> now, i know the bible says you are not supposed to eat lobster and i violated that one. >> i violated last night at red lobster. >> you went to the house? >> i had the ultimate feast, all shellfish. >> so i am going to hell. >> oh, okay.

>> everybody has a place in this nation. i would just like to see a separate -- taken by the skittles. there are different cloolors in that bag. you can mix the color, it would still taste okay. if you separate the colors and taste the individual flavors, tl it would be better. >> eveso you are telling me whe you taking a bag of skittles, you separate it? >> every time. >> you cut down trees for the cross. >> yes, sir. >> some people do metal crosses. >> it is like having a plastic christmas tree. >> what about going down to home depot and buy the wood? anybody do that? >> we tried that before. the wood goes up fast. don't get your wood at home dep depot. >> we are not racist against

home depot. >> i love your sensitivity around home depot. >> absolutely, man. >> dude, you are going really fast, you are going to lose a lot of fuel. >> most of the robes i have has carosene on them. >> you are going to be on this ceremony, let's go. >> it was almost time for the cross lighting. >> let's keep this cross up here. >> hanging hard. >> i know what you are thinking. is it rude of me not to help? nth will be the least of his worries. because he uses polident 4 in 1 cleaning system to kill 99.99% of odor causing bacteria. polident. clean. fresh. and confident.

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first, if you search the internet for kkk, some of the top stories you will find is about a small town that you never heard. i am headed back to arkansas. the town of harris has a population of 96%. it is known for still having active ku klux klan presence. what kind of bible will i get here? will i see some kind of sign of modern day racism? >> the da. ta-da. >> people say this billboard reminds them of unpleasant time in their town's history. >> i need to talk to somebody about the billboard and this lady will be. president of the harrison chambers of commerce. >> well, it broke my heart. after i cried a little while then we started working on what

do we do? how do you counter a billboard that does not have an author? >> there is no website or name or nobody is claiming credit, there is no address. >> it is just a billboard. >> now, the people of harrison don't know who's responsible for this sign? if i am placing that, i guess this guy. >> harrison became a dark place to live without its negroes. pastor thomas rob is the leader of the night party of the ku klux klan. a powerful group with the kkk group with the large internet presence. rob had been known for years to soften the image of the kkk. it is a stab of the 21st century of rebranding. >> i don't hate black people. >> he replaced the white hood with a suit and a tie but the message is still the same. >> think about your ancestors.

look at the blood that flows through your veins. it >> for many years, nobody said anything against him. the assumption is most people must agree because we never said that he does not speak for us. we don't think he's perfect. >> no more or no less. >> this is what he does 24/7. guys, i want to introduce you to our guest today, this is kamau bell. >> i am going to hug. >> even better. to discourage anyone who's not white or not moving to town. >> as i am driving into town, there is a sign that's telling me to turn around. that's a victory for them. that's exactly what they want point. >> they did not even have the

bravery to put their name on it. it is almost cowardly. >> who do you think it is? >> this man thomas rob. they not only know who he is, thomas rob knows all about the force, too? >> we have been attacked a as group and personally and individually. the main permsonality -- it is this guilt that'll take your spirit. >> if you meet him in town, he's mild and he would stop and have you change your pack. >> let me rephrase that. he would stop and help me change my tire. his job is hate speech. that's what he does for a li living. they have several businesses they run out of their hometown, i guess. >> hometown never sound like a

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harrison, arkansas, a town of a reputation for racist.

is that reputation fair? i am going to talk to the people about this. >> wait a minute, i have to talk to you. please, just say it again when you saw me. >> so nice to see a person of color in my town. >> oh my, can i give you a hug? >> what do you think of this town? >> i like this town. >> would you say this is a warm and welcoming town? >> we welcome you it is like we welcome anybody else. the way that this world is coming to. >> i appreciate your passion and appreciate you putting your arms around me right now. i would put my arms around you, i appreciate you. >> it is appreciate to have a black out in my life. >> how do you feel in this town? does it bother you? >> no, not at all.

>> no racism or weird? it is all friendly? >> yes. >> i have heard about this gentleman in town, thomas rob, he talks as if he's speaking for harrison. >> 99% of the people that live here -- >> thomas rob. have you heard of that name before. >> don't say it three times, he may show up like beetle jeatlej. >> this town is very peaceful. >> here i was in arkansas, i heard of this guy thomas rob. this is the kkk. i got to meet this guy. i had to call him up, hey, can i come up to your creepy compound.

i didn't actually call him up or called him creepy calm pound. i had my producer calling him up. my white guy was like what's up brother? nobody buys that. >> why don't you come to my compound? now i am in a weird position where i am going to lunch with a ku klux klan member. well, race is not about me, you know? >> nice to meet you. >> thanks for coppinming. >> oh, no problem at all. >> appreciate you showing up. >> i hope they picked a good place to eat. >> i hope so, we'll find out. >> this guy did not seem so bad for a klansman. >> i know you continue to be

apart of the new klan. >> the klan is a tool to reach people. it is the biggest bang for the bucks. that's why i joined the plan. but, my belief is that black people can maintain under lawyer order. >> really? >> that's my personal belief. white people have an inner drive -- >> all white people? >> no, not all white. >> some are really trash. >> okay, all right. >> i sincerely believe that people of my character and racial intelligence were in charge, your community will be safe again. we come from different world. you are happier, i suspect among

your own world. >> i am happy among my own people but there are multiple races -- >> you are comfortable of multi racial society? >> yes, absolutely. >> absolutely. >> and i am not. i love my heritage without somebody calling me a racist or hater or a bigot. >> how do you feel about that? >> why did they want to do that? >> many place is about multi-cultural. i think for the same reason you have been here for so long. they like this community. >> why do white people can't have a community? >> i think white people have a lot of communities there. >> if they want to preserve it or have to have minorities in. >> if i move into this town and

double the black population, how do you feel about that? >> i am nice. >> how do you feel about that? >> if that's what you want to do, go for it. >> i am seizely, go for ieasy. >> i am kidding. how would you feel about that? >> would you feel we'll get along or have a good time? >> i would invite you to dinner. >> would you come to my house for dinner? >> -- oh. >> i like being around my own kind. >> what if i have white people there. >> i have no desire. >> anyway. >> the bad news, i completely lost my appetite. the good news, pastor robin invited me to visit his compound. >> wait, that's good news?

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so i passed the audition, i get to go to the compound.

yeah skpl yeah! >> why are all these klan people all down the creepy country road. i feel like i am in season one of "true detective" 15 miles down the road. >> i wonder if a black man ever been this far down the road. in addition to pastor rob, i have been promised time with his daught daught daughter, the co-host of kkk internet show. >> i am rachel, welcome to another edition of "this is the klan." i am going to get to meet billy roper. in recent years -- >> a lot of this is working with jobs with mud. how are we going to make sure those babies never have to go to

school -- [ bleep ]. >> if i had the answe answer -- [ bleep ]. >> i am never going to watch that. what's an old school hater billy roper doing with mr. rob? what have i gotten myself into? i hope this is the right klan compound. look who's waiting for me? former neo nazi billy roper. y . >> yes, we did, we got a little lost. >> kamau bell, nice to meet you. >> here is appropriate setting to discuss this, a kid's playground. >> how did you get involved with

pastor rob? >> that's right, the man who said this, if i had the answer -- all my [ bleep ] would be dead. >> yes, he's now teaching dikid. >> can people who look like us still be enemies? >> of course, we believe that homosexuals are wrong. there are all these people are traitors and believe it is right. >> it is crucial that people in my position do everything we can to educate white youths about our perspective on american history. all of our founding fathers were white. america was not established to be a melting pot. >> why did they bring so many black people here? >> if they had not brought us in the first place, you would never have this problem. >> i agree. >> you and me both, sir. >> that we can agree on.

>> the only way to undo that original sin is rep-patriation. >> all right, well, i am up here and i see this beautiful playground and i think my daughter if she's with me, she would like to play at this playground, would it be acceptable? >> there are millions of majority black neighborhoods in the united states that my daughter can't play in today because of violence and because of the drugs and the color of their skin. so no. sometimes it is better for people to have their own places to play. >> all right. >> not just racist but also kind of a jerk. >> this is the church, welcome. >> thank you. >> we'll have an opportunity to join pastor rob and rachel inside. >> great. >> come on in. >> hello.

>> hello. >> how are you? >> how are you? >> rachel. this is kamau. >> hi, nice to meet you. >> this is our conference hold, we do have church services here. we offer nice families and a lot of young people and children and so forth. >> what else do you do up here? >> well, we operate our internet television and news program. >> oh yes, rob. not ready for primetime or any time. >> you and i are in a race war today and the blacks and minorities are winning. the white people are not going to walk quietly wait into the night. >> now, i got to watch the actual taping right there. that's rachel young. they gave permission to show his face but we'll blur him away anyway. >> i still have hope for him.

>> hello, this is thomas rob. >> i am rachel, welcome to another edition of "this is the klan," there is a lot of news going on in this week. there is an attack on law and order in general, i noticed that seems kind of humorous to you. >> cut, just for a second. you guys are doing great, i think if you guys talk more to the camera right here. you are just talking to -- i hope my black presence is not disturbing. >> that's not okay. >> that's all i am saying. >> we can officially say that this wonderful black man has given a technical advice to make our show everyon better. >> see, you are talking right to me. it is like i am right there in the tape with you. >> let's do this, invite me in. ? it . >> it is a family event for white pride. >> we need to feel the white pride. just a little more that's all. >> until next week.

>> remember this is the klan and this is the truth. >> i like the subtitle. this is the klan and this is the truth. if there is a jingle that popped in there, it would be amazing. >> what did they have to say about my friend on race relation sns. >> what they're trying to do is diversify our community. >> we want to understand that they don't have to feel pressure of being bullied by the task force. >> how do you mean bully just to be clear? >> for instance, somebody putting the sign up on the highway, antiracist is a code word for antiwhite. we don't know who put the sign up. >> can we all disagree it is friendly? >> i don't see it that way. >> should the sign come down? >> absolutely. the sign has been a success. when i drive-in to town,

antiracism, makes me feel like a guy who's not from this community, i should drive through. >> when i say racist, can you also tell me you don't see a white person? >> i can honestly tell you that. >> i have black relatives who are >> then i would say that you're probably in the minority of african-americans. because when people think of racism they have been programmed to think of white people. so therefore, anti-racism really is anti-white. >> for one person turned off by the ad there might be 100 or 1,000 who said hey, i think i want to come to harrison and maybe even move to harrison. >> did you guys put the sign up? >> yeah. no. >> did you say yeah? i think you said yeah. are you sure? this is my hard-hitting question phase. are you sure? >> i didn't put the sign up. >> okay. fair enough. >> hmm. pastor robb's pretty firm. but what about billy? i wonder if he knows who put the sign up. >> they say they're anti-racist. but what they are is anti-white.

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your church. and you know, next week i'll bring my friends and we'll have a barbecue. >> probably not. >> okay. all right. >> bye-bye. >> drive careful. >> thomas robb and his new klan may not be as scary as the old klan, but i still wouldn't want them living on the outskirts of my town. by wearing a suit and tie, by presenting hate speech as folksy news, he's trying to take the kkk mainstream again. and that's way more dangerous than any group wearing a hood and hiding in the shadows. but unless he picks up some ryan seacrest tv skills, i don't see it happening. this here is the real story of harrison, arkansas. it's the story of people like these who are fighting back against the ignorance of racism. i didn't think this town would be embracing of the ignorance, but i didn't know there would be

such a spirit against it. >> when you can see our hearts, that helps more than anything. >> yeah. >> after all this i've learned that despite what we think, the klan is real. they're out there. they're not the same as they used to be anymore. they're not as strong as they used to be. the klan is at this point kind of like myspace. [ laughter ] like it's still out there. they're still recruiting. and they're always like we're going to be back to where they were. but they're not. they're not. [ laughter ] and i found out that the ku klux klan with all their talk of rebranding is still basically the same klan and they're still doing things that are scary. like sometimes they gather in the woods and burn a cross while a black guy watches. >> klansmen, surround the cross. >> klansmen, do you accept the light of jesus christ? >> i accept the light. >> klansman, do you accept the light of jesus christ? >> i accept the light.

>> klansman, do you accept the light of jesus christ? >> i accept the light. >> klansman, do you accept the light of jesus christ? >> i accept the light. >> klansmen, march. klansmen, halt. face the cross. for god. >> for god! >> for country. >> for country! >> for kentucky. >> for kentucky! >> the klan claims this is a symbol of god's love. but i'm not feeling the love right now. >> klansmen, approach the cross. do not turn your back to the cross. >> holy shit.

>> klansmen, behold the fiery cross. still brilliant, though history has failed to quench its hollow flames. it shall glow as bright as the morning sun, for all decades to be held in the hearts of all klansmen. it shall light from sea to sea. the cross is an inspiration, a sign of the christian religion. it's a symbol of faith, hope, and love. we do not burn but light the cross to signify that christ is the light of the world and that in his light it destroys darkness. beneath this fiery cross we glory in its sacred glow. this is where my oath was made. as long as we give thanks to god every day, we shall never perish from this earth. we shall never die. they may try to destroy us, but the ku klux klan has been here for 150 years. i want to go for another 150 years. let's go. white power! >> white power!

♪ >> i realize this new kkl arks nrks isn't as powerful as the old klan. but there is an undeniable power to this image that is even more undeniable when you see it up close. i actually feel lucky. unlike most of the black people in the history of this country who have been present for a cross burning, i get to leave.

northern norway, it is a frozen, desolate landscape perched above the arctic circle. and for three months of the year, it is shrouded in darkness. but if you ask the people here how happy they are on a scale from one to ten -- >> i'm a nine.