i'm in seattle washington, hanging out with the gun club. i'm talking to white people who want to end white supremacy. right now they're protesting at a tattoo shop.

>> what can i do? that's the question i hear a lot in my travels, but if i'm honest it's mostly a question i hear from white people. specifically well meaning white people. we don't ask what he with can do to help. we're figuring out ways to mike it through the day. some white people starting to realize that no, things are pretty efed and those white people have taken to protesting,

donates and a little crocheting. but some white people are 2nd amendment. specifically these white people. not to be confused with these white people. i know, it's confusing. they're the red neck revolt. they're actually red necks revoemting against the red noeks revolting against us. it was an armed community defense which means these people are exercising their second amendment rights. you can basically identify the red neck revolt enemy and it's a community whose core belief that whitoidty is understood attack.

>> they're marching with tick ki torches as a way to keep away white people and black people. it extends all the way to the pacific northwest. the revoemt has spread to the pacific northwest too. the pew jet sound club, doing their thing. >> today the united states of america, this is happening.

we're taking a break from the shooting this gives me an opportunity to bring aside the members. >> so what made you decide to want to join up? >> you know, it's sorts of always been a hard thing to find a place in the world because it's you're either against guns or against guys and humanity. that's the sort of trade off. i think this organization, felt like a place that matched my politics and my history. >> john brown certainly you not right wing as we define it now. let's talk about john brawn. john brawn was a 19th century abolitionist that he decided to take out an arnlry in virginia

with 21 of his friends. needless to say it didn't go well. he tried to get more people to go with him but even harriet tubman and doug ras were like i'm good on that. but the example continued to resonate today. >> 11 or 12? i joined a year ago. i'm a semiobservant jew. >> okay, wait, white jewish guy, white woman, i needed toe talk to a regular white guy. >> he was really white. i live in seattle. it's like norway. right? but my neighborhood is like 80% plus people color and around the election time it's white power slogan at my kid's park and you know, all this stuff just starts

swirling. this african american couple, a few painted an n word on their truck and that's messed up so i was like well, time to get off my ass and do something. >> why aren't more white people here? i mean here in this frame of mind. that's part of what we're doing is can we create a space of people who are trying to fight back against the elements of oppression in society. they have the space to do it. >> good job, white people. >> so this is my membership card. >> so can i see it? >> yeah. so what happens this is out of spite. >> these are bullet holes that red neck revolt member shot

through his nra card in protest. >> so they're required to shoot at person ranges. i begged them is there any other 2nd amendment organization i can join, they said no, this is the only wuchb. i hate them. i have no respect for them. that's clear. >> even from the standpoint of gun rise? >> yeah. >> thaey felt to and the stand p for kas tile. >> i'm from morocco, i've got to be honest. that's why i'm like i think you're a double agent. i didn't want to say anything from on the of your friends. most to chapter is white men. when you look at guns at least gun culture in the united states it's rely dominated by white males and we want to change

that. i didn't know the range was as high. excuse me for one second. the range hot again the group squad me if i wanted to shoot some of their big guns and i was leukono, not really. a gun punched in me in the nose so i will be filing charges. >> when you're in there it's hardto remember. it's a good white folks. they are, but after eight years, it's done historically if you know what i'm saying. (paul) great.

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>> oh, rudy, is there anything you know? >> the way in which the media twists her work is a monomott to white supremacy. we're take l it down. >> this is awesome. >> i'm always happy to see you and talk to you. >> this is good. there's so many places i could go. for a lot of people it's against white lives. >> it's interesting whenever black people declare unity in the midst of unmitigated chaos, white people be like oh, but you hate me and it's like isn't this an opportunity for you to declare that you always believe that black lives matter? >> the matter is limited. >> so it shows us a lot about

where we have to go. >> so you get pointed at being anti white. >> my dad is white. what are we doing right now? yeah. >> so i saw you at an event and there was a woman on stage. she was confused about the definition of racist. >> it would have been ease fi for you. >> it was like a jedi without knowing what a light saber is. >> and white people have to disinvest from the stuff and they're not going to. every time there's some hectic stuff going on you have to pull out the light saber because at the end of the day they're not going to come back. for the most part i think that what's real white people are not taught about how they've been

put in a position of power and that's exactly how it's allowed to continue. and then from there you don't stop there and ju see the most conscience and still not do shit. >> some people do that. now that we've done this, we need to actually get in the trenches. >> so then what is your reaction when you hear about groups like the red neck revolt. >> they must be in a long tradition of anti racist organizing amongst foreign working class white folks. i'm not as familiar with that work but i the tell you that more groups like that are needed. we need cospirits. we need allies.

coupon sp cospir tors go to jail with you. >> i know a lot of white people are watching the show right now. that was a great segment but i don't know if i'm ready to get a gun. lucky for you she brought one of her coconspirators with her. >> you're only here because of her. >> i know that. and i don't mean that in a bad way. >> the organization is taking a lead on our deep rooted social issues often targeted by the white supremacist movement. >> talk about your organization. >> it's a multiracial multiworking class organization.

we're the biggest rural organizing protest in the u.s. what we do is go out and knock on doors, listen to people, figuring out what they're doing. and we do that in big cities and rural communities and we build enough power to actually change things. >> so what's the conversation that you're having with people about whiteness? >> we're not going to knock on a buchblg of doors and say hey, do you want to come to a organizational need meeting. that's what what we're doing. >> we just finished knocking on 2 no dollars and what is it you want to change and whatever the issue is and move people into a campaign to win and then along the way then we start to have that conversation and around race, did muslims crash the

economy? black people pushing opioids entothis part of the state or did undocumented states stash a bunch of money? no. we found it's like let's focus on the real villain in this story but we can only do that i believe if we start with where people are at, work on what they want to work on. build a foundation and a relationship and then we can have a relationship. what's actually going on. >> it's really hard to imagine until you go there just how bad it is and it's like a different kind of poverty. it's like ghost town poverty. it's like the buildings have gotten knocked down but not taken away. we've got a desperate nst pness to it. >> folks that are like considering the condition and the environment we're living in, most these communities are mixed race just to say --

>> wait, wait, so you're thing me that there are folks of all different races living together in these communities that are dealing where ghost town poverty? because we don't hear that story. >> the primary portrayal of poor white people is like the people that are with us in these communities, hey, if you don't want me on the team i'm going to stop drying out. i feel like y'all don't want me on the team. i've got flyers that people have sent me that are hey, you struggling with opioid addiction? it's not your fault. we can help you, give us a call. the white nights of the kkk and there's a local phone number there. >> so we're totally being

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at the bun -- gun range, the people of seattle are changing. it's declined to its lowest point of modern history and ever since donald trump started making america great again hate crimes are doubling. >> you ever see that coming through seattle? >> you do and they're not always regular people. sometimes they're people of power. >> let's be clear, she's talking about the cops. >> so you seem like a person if i say the word white supremacy, you didn't really flinch.

you just nodded. >> it's always been and we need to work on dismantling it. >> the melting part of all culture. so when they say we -- they also -- >> i'll tell my kids. >> love that sweater. >> yeah. >> now, there are people out there who are willing to going further to stop the red neck revolt. i'm headed across the sound meeting up with anti fog it gets all the one very big difference, anti fog we wish a nazi world.

they very specifically wanted to meet up at the japanese exclusion memorial. you're feeling a nervous jolt of anticipation as i'm about to sit down with one of these activi s activists. not what we're ex-pexing. lucky for us, she's here to help us learn. >> so labeled me a leader on anti fa in the bay area. bell is a supporter and none of that is coming out. you are peddling hate. >> the pronunciation, which way

do codo you go? >> the way i describe it is more like this. like, do you approve of fashism? no. >> so if you're opposed to fasci fascism so it's anti fascism that could be a lot of things. maybe they're a great programmer. and do you think people deserve love? anti fa. >> so the political compass is more like a square. go down to the bottom left. >> no immediate leaders like no hierarchy. >> where's like i'm with her

hillary democrat. >> >> like the left of center as opposed to right of center. i think of it as moderate republican. >> now let's talk about stuff you see on the news and you've add times had to get out there and mix its up. what was it like? >> so i went to visit this protest in portland. there was like the proud boys and this group called act and anti islamic and this guy just ran at these two girls and so they were both wearing and he looked like he was going to jump on them. i jumped at him but i picked him up like off the ground and i threw him on the ground and i

jumped on him and punching him. >> this is what i'm expecting and right now it's not like what i imagined. >> oh, i love that these are -- >> i know. i like that. >> can i take one? >> wow. and this is -- >> i usually have a couple of those on me just in case. >> i news it for what i need to use them for. >> stay in line. i get it. so you have a bag of things. >> and including your mask. >> so this is good for masking up. it's just a black bandana, you wear it like this. >> my heart elevated just as you did that. >> is something happening? >> here we go.

so these are some of the flyers. >> so this is what you put up around neighborhoods. this is a guy that works for ice. it's basically like you post people's public information or you make them known to people. >> are you not afraid from somebody from the other side are saying i'm going to do that to you. >> you should have shown up today so that we don't see your face. >> i could have. it's never made me stop before. >> so i'm going to block out this person's face. have you seen this person getting coffee in your neighborhood? this person is from the privatized immigration system. some people say that that kind of saying they're modern day

nazi it's inflammatory. concentration camps it's over the top. >> it is inflammatory because it's extreme. the people on the left are going to be like these are people who have jobbed and they're trying to support their families. >> but the thing is, white transgender, you know, heterosexual men, but fascists will come for you too. your privilege won't protect you forever. >> i want to say, this looks awesome.

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>> i think our role is explicitly in spain though. we call ourselves if you don't they will or we call our collaboration that and a big part of our work is generating and holding our spaces. >> wow. to cultivate anti fascist

dreams. i want to do this. >> we can be creative, there's so many ways to say no. everyone can do it, you know? >> it can be like no. yeah. >> so meaning like the -- when we went to this little no it's no, this is bad and not ever is really recognizing there's a social movement that wants to take over. >> so this like i voted a straight democratic ticket and this is like we've got to hit the streets. >> the very least we can do is say no to white nationalism. >> this is a very intense message putting a very little fun package. >> the pamphlet offers insight on things like white supremacist. and activists in the pacific

northwest. and why they may not identify as such, there's two of my favorite words in this. they start the whole thing off. how do we sol the problem. >> >> we think of white nationalism and we think of a man. women are totally invisible and white women they've gotten a pass. >> white women really tapping into what white power and supremacy offered them. >> and even a coin that nobody cared about but the woman's suffer ram movement was about white women and some got the reishurns that white sue people si would only be strengthened if they were given the right to vote.

just because white folks say it don't mean they play it. >> how do you feel about the red neck revolt? progressive people who are willing to take up arms. >> hey. one of my favorite things. fighting for our civil rights. seattle's longest story coming to fight racism can provide more to those just showing up to the party. these two have spent decades together fighting for the cause of justice. >> i don't want to go too far

without noting there's a narrative that the black panthers didn't want to be around white people and you two were already working together. >> malcolm x traveled not just around the world but parts of america, he began to real these that this struggle was not just about black people. that this struggle was for the right of all people. >> it was an enduring ol darety and it's a sense of duty for me in the sense of owner and we're going to look out for each other and if fact that black americans such a small population, how could we talk about changing this system in america. rev nugs in america when we're such a small part of the pie. >> in the late 60s the panthers

banded together who organized poor white people in the south and the northwest. other organizations were the young lords out of chicago and the young patriots organization out of shchicago. >> we carried our weapons everywhere we went. the black panther party was violent, we weren't violence. >> everybody had a loaded weapon but during that whole period is when the fbi got active and they found a way to bust me so i ended up being charged and being convicted of a sawed off shotgun. they gave me ten years. no priors. i'm a graduate student, man. >> long have they been able to keep us divided and fighting amongst each other, the longer that this racist capitalist

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don't embarrass me, white people. >> wait a minute. come on. >> did we get that? >> you better have gotten that. >> it is an honor to meet you. whenever we do actions out we wear black lives meatatter. >> thank youer for saying that. why guns? why is guns the organizing principal? there's something to be said for being able to show up and primarily violent far right activists and they don't do shit when we're there and everything

is able to speak their mind and you showing up at a rally is different than me showing up at a rally with guns and it is an obligation for me to -- i feel like i need to go and put my body in front of their guns and i'm okay with that. >> you know, i have my speed on the highway or i can put my bd day in front of other people's guns. >> white people's guns showing up like you to speak other people's minds. >> you know, black lives matter already gets arkt characterized as people carrying guns. >> i've never held a gun in my life. >> it allows us to start a conversation with them. >> so we put out literature at a

second amendment rally that it's racist and we identified and explained all the different ways that gun control laws have been used to target black men specifically. all gun laws have been about disarming black males. it's the southern patrol until now. >> before we wrap this up i want to invoit you to give them somethings to take to your white people. >> i think y'all are going it. keep embedding yourself in communities that people don't go to kbeexcept for a the alternat right. a rally outside of a nazi owned

tattoo schott shop ahop and it shut down. >> you're going to go check it out? >> you're a gangster. >> put that this your bio. >> my wikipedia page. we' we wrap it up there. >> the red neck revolt provides the community defense in many ways. taking a pace in the black panthers and by teaching gun safety courses like this one. watching this power point presentation makes me want to pea my -- pee my pants. >> how did you get involved in this? >> this so there is a local

tattoo parlor that is run by confirmed neo nazis. it's really important to me that we have a group of people that stand up and just send a public message to say that this is a place where we're not going to put up with this. the banner across hammers which is a logoacross the hammer skin. on their shirts is what's called the wolf angel sign. they've got a lot of ways to show you they're nazis. >> we've had two protests and the second protest, things got

pretty heated. a few moments could have escalated into violence and these guys shut it down. so much about what we're trying to do is build a coalition and inspire people to actually take action and we plead to recognize everyone but we need to all link our arms and agree >> i have a question, you have a wedding ring, are you married? >> i have a baby. >> a baby, wow? >> looking at you, you don't look like a nazi fighter. >> are you afraid? >> there is like a level deeper, it is called eight chant. i learned that in the summer. >> four chan and eight chan are internet message force that

attracts friends and groups. >> there are spreads on eight trend, like they'white supremac trying to hunt down my address. my husband and i are nervous, you know we have a baby. we are not trying to be reckless. the risk that everyone else didn't get to choose. >> taking that risk and with your skin, your white skin. >> i am here to show my white face and to show them that i am here and i don't like what they are doing. ♪ i'm just a normal person who got an awful skin condition.

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to the races. >> this is potentially violent route. we'll have a fun day, just be safe. >> have fun and be safe. >> i will stay with my brother and husband, join us right after the protest at the house. my husband is cooking his own birthday dinner. well, honey, i have to fight nazis, you have to take up some slack. ♪ strangely and you know, does not matter who you tailgated, nice. so you really got a full like shot of let's do this. yeah, put your sign up in the air to protest all the nazis.

if you like it then you got to kick the nazis out. i think i wrote copyright violation. >> maybe. >> it is covered under parody, i don't have to pay for this. >> i thought i would be across the street with the nazis. we are about to walk across the tattoo shop right now. >> who's town? who's town? >> what's up, man? >> how are you doing? >> good. >> they got people coming in from the back and they went down the alley and they're coming down the back. that truck came over here. >> oh. >> so you are seeing some action happening. >> well, they're just showing up. let's see how it goes. >> looks good.

>> it is a great crowd. >> nazis come. >> nazis come. >> while i was afraid something bad may happen. apparently when you show with a bunch of members, the white supremacists take a knee. >> how is this going? >> fantastic. >> amazing. >> yeah, what do you think? >> it is weird, it seems good when i was told earlier in the week, going to a nazi protest, oh, that should be fun. >> it is fun. >> people love getting rid of nazis. >> what feels better than this, right? >> this is like an all time picnic. >> everybody in america should take a day off in the weekend. it should be a thing. >> it is so cool to me to see the broad base of the community support. we have the moms and i am representing the moms and we have a couple of neighbors

saying oh my god, i didn't know a lot of people cared. >> i think people of color are surprised of white people like this. >> co-conspirators. i will sleep better tonight knowing that you are here. i will let you get back to it. >> thank you. >> what can i do? what was the question that started this whole thing. unlike most episodes of this show when we ask questions, this time definitely answer. you can use your privilege to defend others. you can have fun while doing it. you can get directly in the fight and still make it home in time for that birthday party. all the while you can learn for the people around you who had been doing this for years. white people, we see these folks are willing to do. what are you willing to do? it is not a rhetorical question. >> the first time i heard black

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