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take to the oval office. >> taking the fight like folks have never seen before. because we're better than this as a country. >> welcome to "the axel files." >> senator cory booker, welcome hole. incredible to sit here with you and at what what was the locust of a lot of city change. >> here at city hall. powerful for me to sit here. a while since i sat right here. >> now been a united states senator five years or so. >> yes. >> do you sit here and say, man, i kind of like being able to make decisions. i make things happen. a little less talk, a little more action? >> the truthful feeling ivy, this is overwhelming. gratitude, almost debt. this is a city that took me from a law student and gave me my first shot to lead. we have a habit in this country of electing people who have never run anything to positions.

so i start toed this job no experience, managing people with a billion dollar budget and learned on the job, and it was -- this was such an amazing experience for me, and made mistakes and learned a lot, and had moments -- i mean, i think very emotional moments. really felt broken but had a community that always sort of extended to me the kind of grace that put me back together and put me back in the game better because of the broken moments. >> i had the occasion to watch the other night. this documentary, "street fight" made about your 2002 campaign when you were challenging the incumbent machine, mayor sharpe james. >> the last 32 years of your life, you had the same leadership. >> we're going nowhere! we don't need no carpetbaggers coming in here telling us how bad we are. >> a brawl and you were the earnest young reformer fighting the corrupt status quo and your

message was crystal clear. new versus old. reform versus corruption. up know. school, jobs, policing. tell me what your message is now that you're running for president of the united states. >> it's very simple, very straightforward. it is this is a nation who built a global reputation for doing impossible things. for bringing people together from diverse backgrounds and accomplishing extraordinary feats of humanity, whether it's expanding the middle class, bigger and better than anybody had ever done before. sending people to the moon. we are at a point now in american society that people are losing faith in our ability to do big things anymore. they feel like the forces tearing us apart are stronger than those holding us together. i'm running for president of the united states to rekindle, revive that sense of common purpose and address what i know is a sense of common pain in this country. we need to repair that fabric of

our community and get to the business of addressing persistent injustices in america. >> that's a very different message than some of the other candidates which says we are a divided country, and one has to choose sides and win these fights, because the results of not doing that could be catastrophic. >> well, you know, first of all, it wouldn't pass comprehensive criminal justice reform. that's the first step but a bill people told me we couldn't get done and we got it done because we found a lot of common ground. i can rice a dissertation on people i disagree with. the only person that lives in inner city, black american community, and poverty, and moved into a tough neighborhood 20 years ago. the people in my community have no time to hold hostage progress because of your ideological purity. high to make tough decisions. something you have to cobble together the coalitions to move the ball down the field.

when your name is in communities that are left out, struggling. the people on my block, when i come home from the senate, from washington, they're less interested in my -- my partisan fights than what we are actually doing to make communities better. >> i'm interested in what you said about not being a prisoner of ideological puritiy when trying to get things done. it's a very pragmatic point of view, but i watch you in this race trying to navigate these forces. so you are a co-sponsor of senator sanders medicare for all bill. then i hear you talking about it, and you're very quick to acknowledge that, no, you probably are not going to transform the whole health care system overnight, yet there are transitional steps. feels like you're checking the box but also cooling the expectation? >> having a debate with my staff. pulled up a tweet from when i

was mayor talking about universal health care. something you're mayor and see the brokenness of the system that we spend so much money on, because the system is perverted. if we designed a system that doesn't work, hyperexpensive, this would be the system we design. i support medicare for all because i think it's the best way to get to the common debt republicans and democrats have. in this country health care should be a right. it shouldn't be something that privileged people have money versus people who don't. >> the big you signed on to takes it all in one swallow. >> yeah. and again, i'm not going to be one of those people that's afraid to tell people what my vision and hope is. i do believe if i'm, the president of the united states, the first thing i can do is -- by the way, 150 million or so people have private insurance, really like their insurance. you've got to start building the kind of coalitions needed to make progress towards expanding care and lowering costs. yes. first thing interested in, lowering the medicare eligibility. in a pragmatic way.

55, one vote shy of doing that in the senate, and that's going to help to actually lower costs of private insurance getting older people out. common sense things to lower prescription drugs. what you do when you are a person who's governor, you find the things you can do to move the ball down the field. intolerable we're a nation everybody doesn't have access to health care. we're going to get there. >> you don't think the bill you're co-sponsoring, the sanders bill, would pass the senate anytime soon? >> it will not pass the senate. i look at this, to 2020 elections, doesn't mean i'm not going to try, not a prisoner of hope. this could be a break through election. still in the playoff. don't know if it will be small, i'm working to make it a bigger election. >> talk about the one guy in one office. right now congress is challenging the president in a historic way, resisting on a lot of different fronts. not just on the russia probe and

on the mueller report, but on a wide array of issues. what should congress do about that? >> first of all i appreciate the way you sort of broadened that question to more than just the mueller report and subpoenas. we've seen a lot of -- what i think is a violation of separation of powers and power enumerated for article 1 branch of government are being taken by the article 2 branch. foreign policy is a great example. we have a president that bombed syria. he wasn't bombing terrorists organizations. bombing a regime we have no declared war on. so i think that we have a real, in a sobered way, and glad i'm having these conversations with republicans and democrats, need to talk about having respect for this operation of powers. this impeachment proceedings if you read that mueller report with any kind of objectivity, it is a fierce documentation of on

the campaign side, a campaign that was willing to have contact after contact after contact with a foreign adversary then try to lie about it and cover it up. that is bad enough. but then an administration documented time and time again lies and deceit and deception. literally the president of the united states ordering mcgahn to manufacture false documents, trying to throw people off the trail of the truth. this is -- this is really bad. and i don't care whether you love or hate, impeach him or not, can't we agree this is despicable behavior? and mueller said worthy of a potential obstruction of justice charges. this is not to a partisan issue. congress needs to continue to do its job. see the unredacted report, have hearings with mueller in it. see the underlying documentation. everything right now should be on the table as congress does its investigation. >> impeachment is a wrenching

exercise for the country. on the other hand, in the face of some of the things you've seen, if you don't act, you're -- you're further reducing the norm. you're shredding the norm. now there are acts that would have been considered impermissible that become permissible. >> yes. so, look. the benefit of being the mayor of the city which was a city really tough, intractable problems, you had moments where there are just really difficult decisions. this is going to be a really difficult decision and there are moments in your life you have to say damn the politics but make the best decision you can about what's best for country, because life is about purpose, not position. those people that want to cling to their position and are willing to violate their purpose to hold on to that position shred their integrity and lose effectiveness. >> you're open to the idea that impeachment -- mts i >> first, i'm a senator. >> not give you a cheap out.

>> not taking the cheap out. also a presidential candidate and will have to answer this question not from the press but from -- >> voters. >> voters. >> who are important. >> much important, no disrespect. >> i know where i stand. you are not an iowa caucus. >> i stand in the saddle and tell people where i stand. where i stand now is i want to see the unredacted report. i want to see mueller -- i want, i'm on the judiciary committee and god willing get a chance to question him before we come to a conclusion and will make that conclusion what i think is not best for my presidential campaign or my politics. make the decision on what i think, with the gravity what's at stake, with a president that's done high crimes, make the decision what's best for the country. >> nancy pelosi said this week apparently to her caucus and reported that she said she's concerned that if the election were close that the president wouldn't accept the result and on the heels of that jerry

falwell jr., a is a supporter tweeted he was owed another two year because the first two were stolen from him. the president repeated it and amplified on it. do these things concern you? do you take them seriously? >> they better concern you when you hear people in high offices in the land wanting democratic norms and saber rattling threatening what makes us distinguished on the planet earth. we are a nation of laws and traditions that peaceful transition of power we almost take for granted others have the same constitutions, these documents are ultimately worth what they're written, the ideals because of american and women hold them to be true. when men and women betray those documents, these institutions will fall. i don't think that that's going to happen. but when i hear that coming from the president of the united states, i take it seriously and frankly it makes me want to

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♪ you released a plan this week, comprehensive 14 points on gun control that goes well beyond what we've seen from many others including registration of gun owners with screening interviews for them. universal background checks in assault weapons, a ban. i want to ask about something else which is your experience with gun violence living here in this city. you have mentored young people who have been killed. you wrote in your book about a young man named hasan washington who was killed.

you have countless stories like that. what does this do to a community, what does it do to these kids? what does it do to you? >> so, you know, i can't not be emotional on this issue. you mentioned hasan's name and i still remember leaving, the first weeks elected mayor of the city. he was a kid that lived in my building who would be there hanging out in the lobby when i'd come home and i still remember smelling marijuana in the lobby and worrying. smelled marijuana in college and had no worries but in communities like mine kids don't have the margin to, you know, to do things that privileged kids or college kids do all the time, and you know, it ate me up with guilt and shame that hasan -- when i met him he remind immediate of my father, and he was being raised by his grandmother. look, one of the first murders which i was mayor and i got too biz toy continue the mentoring

and felt i should have been doing when i saw him in distress and i remember clear as day his funeral. in perry's funeral home in the center of where i live. everything is on the first floor in that funeral home except one room and he was in that room and i hated that room because i'd seen too many children in boxes and going down there was like descending to the bow of the a ship where people are chained together moaning and groaning and i couldn't stay. i couldn't take it anymore and i was mayor of the city and people looked to me for strength and i had none to give. i broke in my office and felt a sense of unbelievable shame. everybody had shown up for his funeral and i couldn't escape the deal, why couldn't we show up for his life? and that this kid had more gifting than i have. he had a natural talent, natural leadership, and he is now just

another, another statistic that -- nobody seemed to pay attention to. and so there's a larger issue going on. suicide, mental health. 100 people a day, every one has a story. every one has a family. every one has a community, but i live in a neighborhood for 20 years where people are getting killed at rates and shot at rates, it is unacceptable. and so i am tired of living in a country where people are slaughtered in a concert and nothing changes. people are killed in a synagogue. nothing changes. in a grade school nothing changes. on my street every day and nothing changes. so when i'm president of the united states i'm taking the fight to this issue like folks will never have seen before, because we're better than this as a country. it's a unique american problem. no other country has this kind of carnage. more people in high lifetime have died in this nation to gun violence and in all the wars and revolutionary wars now we are not giving thoughts and prayers

which to me is just bullshit, sorry to say that as a man of faith. but faith white house works is dead. we're going to bring a fight with everything i have to solve this problem because it's solvable and we know it. >> have you spoken in this way to your colleagues in the senate? >> i -- i've had very private moments about, in caucus. >> have you shared stories from your neighborhood? >> yeah. >> one thing that strikes me, we as a nation. 90% of people in this country by polling approve of universal background checks and nothing happens. so why will this happen? >> there are things happening in this nation that should break us all. if we have that kind of compassion for each other as we should have. o look, i'm an african-american male. the democrat graphic 6% of the nation's population. make up over 50% of homicide victims. kids and parents tell you when fireworks go off, you think that's a celebration for fourth

of july. kids in my city show post-traumatic stress, they hide, they duck for cover. it's outrageous. if you keep doing the same things over and over again that's the definition of insanity. when i tell folks this is, here's my plan, and when i'm president of the united states i'm going to use a lot of different tactics to -- to do what i've seen some of the best of american leadership do. change the terms of the debate. not let the gun industry and lobby tell us what's possible. the opposite is inaction and indifference. form the coalition we need and take on the tactics we need to go beyond thoughts and prayers and get action and progress. >> one of the things you ran on was a pledge to -- to release this vice of violence on the community, and you did.

and you embraced some very aggressive policing tactics. homicides aul s ultimately fell some 40% in the city but the tactics were controversial. aciu petitioned infringement of rights. police department came under supervision of a monitor. how you as a mayor, because you're obviously sensitive to this issue. how do you balance the rights of people to live free of fear of getting shot, and the rights of people to be respected by law enforcement and how do you balance as a mayor the no ed to keep the police department on the job while insisting that people's rights are being respected? >> being tough on crime is not a

contrary to respecting people's rights. you know, end of my career, as mayor, when we were finding, working with the justice department and partnering with the aclu to do more far-reaching things in the justice department, calling about collecting and creating more data transparency, looking at ways to reduce villains by building community, that not only helped us lower crime but helped build community and strength of people that were often given up on. strategies that work we need to double down as a society. my director would say, you can't save the village by burning it down. we've got to find a way to restore community and actually restore trust between police officers. >> as someone who might criminal justice reform the core of your work, were you anguished by that justice department report about the newark police department urnltder your leadership? >> when i first got there, i knew there was problems, and i felt we were righting the ship. i wasn't angry about the

accusations. we're doing the best we can, we're going to get there. not moving fast enough. i didn't realize sometimes you no ed to ask for help. the u.s. attorney at that point said you're going to get millions of dollars worth of free consulting right now and see things through our data efforts that give you transparency you you don't have or have the capacity to understand. it ended up being something i went from being anguished over to being grateful for and helped to yield a lot of strategies to make newark work wig the aclu be a model for what you can do. >> this controversy has arisen because bernie sanders said in a debate or town meeting, i should say, that he would favor giving everyone in prison the right to vote, even the boston marathon bomber. you are a criminal justice reformer i'm sure you support the resumption of voting rights when one leaves prison, but what about when people are in prison?

>> i want to ask you a question and why i find this question so frustrating to me. because if a guy that knows there's more marijuana arrests in 2017 than violent crime arrests. people are literally serving time for things that president obama admitted to doing, president bush admitted to doing, that the problem in america is not that people are losing voting rights. losing liberty when they shouldn't lose their liberty. this mass incarsersation seen the prison population go up 500% since 1980 alone. >> i appreciate that point -- >> frustrates me. what ends up happening you hear the sound bite that so and so's, the marathon bomber and i'm waving my hand saying what about the hundreds of thousands of people that have arrest records for marijuana in our country? do i believe people who did things that president obama and president bush did should have a right to joet yes. the marathon bomber should have the? no. in creating a debate to the me that is a distractioning from

the urgency of reducing mass incarceration in the country is frustrating to a guy fighting this issue since a college kid and trying to get people to pay attention to it. bernie sanders is a valued colleague. i look at his state. 1% african-americans. prison population is 11% black. incarcerating people that shouldn't be there is what i want the debate to be abe. urgency of mass incarceration, over incarceration of black, brown people, mentally ill people. drug addicted people that shouldn't be in jail, getting treatment, getting health care and we have a system so screwed up a and debating now whether the marathon bomber should have a right to joet come on. this distracts from the real urgencies we have, creates issues. if presidents can do it and senates can do it, don't arrest a black kid in newark, for doing that. >> completely understand that issue but you understand politics. >> yes, but tired in this campaign in a town hall until

iowa and somebody asks do i believe in capitalism? if that's where the democratic party is leading the debate we are in trouble. do i believe in capitalism? hell yeah. you and i are going to a restaurant of an african-american woman who start add small business. i want to see more small business starts. crisis in our country, new business starts are going down. and they are the best job creation. i want more. more oligarchies squeezing out more unfair competition. proverbial capitalism going on. crony capitalism. we need to get back to a market that's more democratic. i keep seeing in the election, don't have to thell me to like it. degrees tracting us from what is -- >> is it a danger? >> yes. a serious danger if we're arguing over should there be capitalism? should we be allow -- i can, the boston bomber to vote?

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you didn't grow up here? >> no. >> you grew up in a suburban community, mostly white community 20 miles from here. in fact, it was an all-white community before your parents showed up and fought to integrate the community. >> my parents had to get a white couple to pose as them. a sting operation set up and a volunteer group put white couples to follow my parents around shopping and my pirnts were told the house was sold to a white couple, the house i grew up in not only the white couple posed tz to put a bid on the house, day of closing my father

showed up to confront the real estate agents for violation of law, the real estate agent punched my dad in the face and sicked the dog on my dad. i grew up way community sitting around a table of parents who lived very different lives than i did and the stories of my mom participating in sit-ins, planning the march on washington. everything i had as my father would indicate to me, don't -- you drink from wells of freedom and liberty. you didn't dig. my dad almost indignant about his two sons experiencing a life that was a dangerous dream to articulate a generation or two ago. and my dad, walk around this house like you hit a triple born on third base. you can't pay back those blessings. you have an obligation to pay them forward. my brother and i were raised you don't get these blessings to lug shore ate and get dumb, fat and happy, my dad would say. blessings to use as fuel for

contin fighting unjust is in this country. >> you played football, worked in the community while there. you went to oxford. you went to yale law. and then you came back here and i'm sure that many people here wondered why. >> well, i think the politics -- i heard that question. the people in the community which i still live just wanted to know was i for real and willing to roll up my sleeves and help? and you know, i always think i might be from stanford but my ph.d. is on the streets of newark because i was adopted by sort of the elders in that community and put to work. first thing i did getting out of law school, tenant rights, housing rights of others. can't pay it back. got to pay it forward. why i tell people life is about purpose, not position. the work i was doing then is very similar in purpose of the work i'm doing right now. when i come home to newark, new jersey, that's my barometer.

work i'm doing, does it really matter to ms. jones, the first person, tenants in my building first told me to run for office and made me promise i would not leave the community or forget the people that first got me elected. >> when you ran for mayor first time against sharpe james it was a brutal campaign. all manner of abuse and intimidation, and caricature of you. >> sharpe is quoted calling cory a [ bleep ] white boy and telling audiences he takes money from the ku klux klan. he says cory, a baptist is actually jewish. >> went to stanford and he's jewish. >> how powerful was that? you end up losing most black awards in that race. the margin of difference? >> we actually won a lot of black neighborhoods. we lost that election by a handful of points. a really close fight. i'm really proud of probably one of the greatest experiences of my life and hate to say how it

ended, but when newarkers saw me go right back to work in community organizing, staying there, by the time a year out from the election polling 25 points ahead of any opposition, because newark is a community that wants to know you're for real. rile the central ward, supported knee significant ways knew who i was, i was running a city-wide election from a ward. came up short and won the biggest land skype in newark history and ultimately beat the machine, right now in polling, i always point out to people these really are marathons. it's a cliche. we're at like mile marker three. having said that, if you look at polling, vice president biden has like 50% of the vote among african-american voters in the democratic electorate and you have under 4%. why is he doing so well? and does the association with president obama give him a

special place in this race? >> well, i don't know. i do know that we see that over 50% of african-americans don't even know who i am right now. while the vice president has full name recognition i'm still introducing myself to voters and you know barack obama was behind, in south carolina. >> until he won the iowa caucuses. >> won the iowa caucuses's we are working really hard to run a grass roots organizing campaign reminds me a lot how we beat the machine in newark. went out in the field. living room to living room, door to door, town hall from town hall in 1998. my point, got out the same amount of votes you always got but brought out an entirely new electorate and won in the ward in central new jersey. in iowa, gone all over the state now you've got to earn people's vote. get out there and meet people and do the kind of organizing i feel comfortable. the guy who came up through retail politics. i think we're going to do extraordinarily well in the early primary states. >> one of the things that i,

that was also part of that campaign and i mentioned it was that you were kind of a quasi-republican getting support from wall street. >> look, i want people to judge me on my record. people say wall street support. i live in new jersey where hundreds of thousands of people from jobs ranging from secretaries on up, my high school friends work in the industry and a nonprofit analysis who votes with wall street and in the senate? cory booker, zero times, has voted in favor of washington. fought against rollbacks of dodd/frank and some things awful like carried interest and more. so when i was mayor in the city of newark we immediated to do things to get things going to get jobs created. getting institutional and philanthropy in our city because we were in a recession. recession for the country, they're depression-like circumstances here. >> let me ask you a specific question about one battle fought here, which was school reform here in newark. and you were champion, and i

think continue to be a champion, for vouchers, for, and particularly for charter schools. those which flourished here in newark, and that has become a bone of contention with the teachers unions and some forces within the democratic party. >> right. >> the reality i've been a champion in schools. i championed specifically to have a unified system that works for my kids. not where your zip code determines the quality of school. my vision for america every zip code in america has great, quality schools regardless of your parents' ability to navigate school systems or if they have to work two jobs and can't do that. >> i want to -- just want to stipulate that, in fact, graduation rates went up dramatically. i think 27%. >> up to 30%. >> yes. performance as well. >> not just a little bit.

a black kid in newark, the majority of my kids you said, your chances going to a high-performing scoop since i was mayor has gone up almost 400 "pet cemetery." a system under state takeover known for its poor performance in a shown dramatic turnarounds in the toughest of conditions. i mean, a tribute to one guy, but to a community of people that put aside purity and said we're going to create a school system that works for every child. not there yet, but the progress we've made in a short time is extraordinary. and as president of the united states i believe every child should have the great public school to go to, like the children in newark are having greater and greater

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so this is your neighborhood. this is a kitchen here one of your aunts. >> exactly one of the -- one of the prize points for me in my life is aunt tra pra muentrepre dream. many people in my community can't get help to start a business. we helped get her capital, start this restaurant and she's thriving. double, i dare say triple sometimes. >> 400 people a day? >> an incredible story with a little opportunity to people often don't get a shot. they are things you can't imagine. >> so -- there's -- seven churches in this area, i'm told, in the vicinity where we sit, and you and i have had discussions before about different faiths including

judaism. >> yes. >> and you know far more about it than i do and i was bar mitzvahed. >> do you have the -- >> i do not. this is a big thing. >> and i'll never prong lasize judaism, but what it means to live a good life and i can't say i agree everything i learned from my torah story but martin luther king drew so much from the torah. it's a powerful -- >> what drove you to that? >> so faith has been the center of my, of my childhood and my upbringing. you know, when you reach a point where you are becoming an adult

say i don't want anybody to judge my nation on donald trump in the same way i will not judge israel by netanyahu. >> the question is whether or not the opportunity for the two-state solution that -- >> that's a real question. >> for the generation has a future. >> it's in peril. i would sahy, legitimately so. i worry about this administration, the president's comments, he doesn't seem to understand that history of the two-state solution and is doing things to me that are offensive by pulling back humanitarian support. this is a perilous time we, as a

government, we as a nation need to recommit ourselves to a two-state solution. >> what do you make of the rise of white supremacy and the general rise in hate crimes over the last several years? >> this is a scourge in our society. it's not enough to say i am not a racist. when racism and bigotry exists, you can't be satisfied with not being anti-racist. i worry about a country that doesn't sound the alarm when weeds of hate are getting root and starting to flourish, that we don't feel a conviction to weed them out. >> you don't invoke the president's name this. what role has he played? >> he has been giving license to hate, breeding a climate of hatred, and literally you see it, racist anti-semitic white supremacist groups use his language. i think it's really dangerous.

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conan o'brien went on national tv and dissed american cities. i am frustrated i can't get investment in my city. he says i hear newark, new jersey, doesn't have a drug program. he said i think the best is a bus ticket out of town. >> the mayor wants to set up a citywide program to improve newark residents' help. it would consist of a bus ticket out of newark. >> i said this is a new era. i got new media. i sat behind my desk in city hall, called out conan o'brien for insulting our city. >> according to the powers invested in me by the people of the city of newark you are on the newark, new jersey, airport no-fly list. try jfk, buddy. >> i think the tsa took a clarification and said mayors don't have the power to ban people from the airports. long story short, went on his show and banned me from burbank airport. now i was getting invited on

shows as a mayor, earned media through the roof. every chance i got i bragged about our city. by the time it ended hillary clinton filmed a video basically saying, she was secretary of state then, trying to keep peace in the burlworld, she said give peace a chance. gave $100 to newark charities. i was able to get calls returned after that flare up that i had never gotten returned before. the platforms that donald trump uses to demean and degrade, my history is to fight hate with love. when people insult me, a fellow united states senator, not to fight them back saying you punch me, i'll punch you harder, but show grace. >> a big debate within the democratic party is how you deal with donald trump. >> if i'm not the nominee, i ran a fire department, fighting fire with fire is not a good strategy. >> speaking of that, your term expires coterm nis with this presidential election. a law was passed in the state to

allow you to run for both. do you intend to run for both? you expect to be in public office of one sort or another in january of 2021? >> yes. and i'm run full board to be the president of the united states of america and i'm going to fight like anything to win the support of my party and to win the support of the american people, but should that not work out i'm looking forward to staying in the united states senate and continue to do what i have been doing for the last five years, which is getting stuff done. i'm proud of my career as a senator. i'm proud of the contributions i have been able to make. i love the job that i have but i aspire to the president of the united states not just because of the ideas i want to bring to bear but because i believe this is a moment in america where we don't need to fight fire with fire or define us by the worst of who we are or fight donald trump on his terms, but this is a time we need a party to unite americans to deal with challenges and injustices. >> great to ybe with you.

>> thank you for coming to my town. >> to hear more of the conversation go to itunes.com/axefiles. you are live in the cnn newsroom. good evening. i'm alex marquardt. president trump says it would be appropriate for him to talk to his attorney general about launching a probe into his potential 2020 rival, the leading democratic candidate joe biden. the predent tls politico, quote, certainly it would be an appropriate thing to speak to william barr about, but i have not done that as of yet. it could be a very big situation. that situation the president is referring to is a suggestion of wrongdoing started by the president's own personal attorney rudy giuliani. giuliani says he is suspicious about work that