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nazis. what can i do? that's what i hear a lot from people in my travel but if i'm honest, it a question i hear from white people. well-meaning white liberal people. black people, we don't ask what we can do to help. in our history, we have to figure out a way to make the world a better place and figure outweighs to make it through the day but after years of many white people thinking things are fine some white people realize no, things are pretty f-ed and they have taken to protesting, hashtaging, phone banking, donating and a little crow

shaying. but some white people are second amendmenti amendmenting. these white people are the red neck revolt. they aren't a bunch of red necks revolting against equality, they are against the red necks e volting against equality. i'll explain. the red next revolt was founded in 2009 in kansas and colorado as an armed community defense which means these people are exercising second amendment rights to protect neighborhoods from neo-nazis, white supremacist and whatever this guy has going on. >> get the [ bleep ] out of here, now! >> you can identify the red neck revolt enemy as the alt right as a community whose core belief is white identity is under attack, which other than the cancellation of "roseanne," i

have no idea what they are talking about. they are marching with torches to keep away black people, jewish people and mosquitos. most people associate this type of thing with the south but remember, the south isn't just a geographical location, it a state of mind prfrom texas to t pacific northwest. in response to all this, the red neck revolt has spread to the pacific northwest, too. that the right. this guy is a good guy. that hat is a good sign. i'm heading to the puget sound good guy gun club doing their thing. [ gunshots ]. >> today on "united shades of america" this is happening.

[ gunshots ]. >> lucky for my already ringing ears, they are taking a break from the shooting to pull aside members. what made you decide to want to join? >> i grew up in a really rural area, and that's kind of part of my identity. >> yeah. >> you know, it sort of always been a hard place to find on the left because it seems to be the thing of like either you're against guns or against gays and black people. >> humanity. >> that's the trade off. >> yeah. >> you know, i think this organization felt like a place that matched my politics and history. >> okay. because john brown gun club, john brown was not right wing as we define it now. all right. let talk about john brown. john brown was a 19th century a abolitionist so committed to freeing black people he took out an armory in virginia with 21 of

his friends. needless to say, it didn't go well. they said good luck on that but good luck in heaven. john brown's example continues to resonate with many excite activists today like the red neck revolt. what number of the club were you? >> 11 or 12. i joined because it was in charlottesville. i'm a semi observing jew is seeing it made me feel compelled to do sgl. >> okay. wait. white jewish guy, white woman, i need to talk to someone. >> my neighborhood is 80% plus people color and around the election time, all of a sudden there is white power slogans at my kid's park and swastikas at the lake where i hang out with my family and all this stuff just starts swirling.

this elderly african american couple a few blocks away, someone painted the n-word on their truck and that's messed up. i was like well, i mean, time to get off my butt and do something. >> yeah. why aren't more white people here? i mean maybe here with us know but i mean, here in this frame of that t's the real person. can we create a space to do community defense of people trying to fight back against this various elements of oppression in society, they have the space to do it. >> yeah, good job white people. [ laughter [ laughter ] >> this is my inner right membership card. >> can i see it? >> sure. >> what happened? [ laughter ] >> this is kind of like out of spite. >> let be clear, these holes don't she how close he is to a free frozen yogurt. these are members shot into his

nra card in protest. >> the nra membership is required to shoot at certain ranges. i begged them. i said is there any other second amendment organization i can join? they said no, this is the only one. >> really? >> i hate the nra. i think they are a [ bleep ] cowardly organization. i have no respect for them. >> that the clear. >> from the standpoint of gun rights because they failed to stand up for orlando castile after he was killed by police after exercising second amendment rights. >> can i ask you a question? >> sure. >> how do you identify racially? >> i'm from morocco. >> i walk up to mostly white guys and saw you. i think he's a double agent. i didn't want to say anything in front of your friends. >> no, most of the chapter is white men. i don't think anyone should be surprised by that. when you look at gun culture in the quite, it's heavily dominated by white males and we want to change that.

i didn't know -- >> excuse me for one second. >> with the range hot again, the group asked me if i wanted to shoot some of the big guns. i was like not really. a gun punched me in the nose so i will be filing charges. when you're in there, it hard to remember. it okay kamau, those are gad white folks. they are but that's not usually the sounds of the good white folks historically if you know what i'm saying. (paul) great.

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like me. ♪ while this white sup preliminary see talk is new to white people, my people have been dealing with this since you heard what do you feel about the name toby? meet fie friend alicia. you're probably more familiar with her work as cofounder of black lives matter. >> black lives matter. >> black lives matter. >> black lives matter. >> when you say black lives matter, that the anti american and racist. >> oh, rudy, is there anything

you know? alisa is one of the coolest and intelligent and down to earth person i know but it a monument to whiteremasupremacy. like a confederal -- confederate flag, we're taking it down. >> what's popping? >> for a lot of people a lot of people think it black lives matter against white lives. >> it interesting. whenever black people declare unity in the midst of unmitigated chaos, somehow it so threatening to white people. as if black people say we love ourselves, white people are like but you hate me? wait a minute. isn't this an opportunity for you to also declare that you also believe that black lives matter? >> that we can't all matter. >> matter is limited. >> yeah. >> it shows us a lot about where we have left to go.

>> you get pointed at or recused of being anti white. >> like my dad is white. what are we doing right now? >> how is this working. >> so i saw you at an event i invited you to as a live pod cast and there is a woman on stage. >> yes. >> she was confused about the definition of racism. >> very confused. >> it would have been easy for you to like -- >> pop off. >> it was like watching a jedi look at somebody like you don't know how to use a light saber and you touched yours like it's not worth it. >> not today. >> because it not about white people. it about wipe supremacy and white people have to disinvest from this stuff. they are not going to if like every time there is some hectic stuff going on, you have to pull out the light saber because at the end of the day, they aren't going to come back and you need them to come back but for the most part, i think what is real is that white people are not taught about how they have been put in a position of power and

that the exactly how it's allowed to fester and continue. you don't stop there and be the most conscious and not do stuff. >> i'm maintaining the highest level of wokeness. >> i'm the most woek. >> exactly. now that we've done this, we need to actually get in the trenches. >> so then what is your reaction when you hear about groups like the red neck revolt? >> they must be in a long tradition of anti racist organizing amongst poor and working class white folks. i'm not as familiar with their work but i can tell you that more groups like that are needed. >> yeah. yeah. white people have to get better at getting their people. >> that the right. >> we need -- we don't even say allies. >> co-conspirators because

co-conspirators go to jail with you. they are not like you'll be okay. >> black lives matter. >> thoughts and prayers. thoughts and prayers. so i know a lot of people are watching the show like kamau that was a great segment but i don't know if i'm ready to get a gun and go shoot with knneo-naz. clearly, you're only here because of her. >> right. i know that. i know that. yeah. [ laughter ] >> i don't mean that in a bad way, she was like oh, you need to book george. okay, okay. >> you know how we do. >> i know that. >> his organization is taking a lead on dealing with our country's deep rooted social and economic issues by organizing america's working class, often targeted by the white supremacist movement. start off, tell me about your organization. >> so people's actions of multi race working class people's organizations. we have hundreds of thousands of members. we're doing for better or worse

the best rural organizing program in the u.s. the only bigger is the alt right. we knock on doors and listen to people and figure what they are upset about. what if we got together and work on this. if we do that in big cities and suburbs and rural communities, how do we built enough pow tore change things. >> what's the conversation you're having with people about whiteness. >> we don't knock on doors and say do you want to come to an anti racist meeting? those would be small meetings. >> we're all here again. thanks for bringing the cupcakes, nancy. we always love your cupcakes nancy. >> that's not what we're doing. >> we just finished knocking on 10,000 doors and asking what are you upset about or want to change? whatever the issue, move people into a campaign to win. then along the way, then we start to have that conversation around race. did muslims, you know, crash the

economy? are black people pushing opioids into this part of the state or did undocumented immigrants stash money in unincorporated taxes. they aren't the enemy. we can only do that, i believe, if we start where people are at, work on what they want to work on, build a foundation and relationship and then start to have a different conversation. >> let's dive into that. what are the characteristics of white communities people are missing now. what is actually going on? >> it really hard to imagine until you go there just how bad it is and it like a different poverty. it ghost town poverty. it like the buildings like have gotten knocked down but not taken away. it's got a desperateness to it. >> yeah. >> you know, folks are like considering the conditions and the environment they live in pretty damn woke and most of

these communities are mixed race. >> you're telling me there are folks of different races living together? >> yes. >> in these communities that are dealing with ghost town poverty? >> yeah. >> because we don't hear that story. >> that's a huge problem. >> wlath hat's at stick when we misthat stomiss that story? >> if its portray is trump loving hill billies, the people with us in these communities will be like hey, if y'all don't want me on the team, i'll stop trying out. i don't feel like y'all want me on the team. if we're not there, somebody else is going to be so i've got, you know, flyers that people have sent me that are hey, you struggling with opioid addiction? it not your fault. we can help you. give us a call. the white knights or the kkk and there is a local phone number. >> you know what i'm saying? let sit wi let's sit with that for a second. we're totally being out organized by the other side in

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at the gun range at the red neck revolt they talked about something i've thought about for years. apparently seattle's white population declined to the lowest point in modern history and like many points in america, since donald trump started making america great again, hate crimes are on the rise doubling in the last year with many incidents tied to white supremacist groups. did you ever see that coming through seattle. do you see the good ol' boys driving through here? >> you do, actually. they are not always regular people there. they are sometimes in uniforms and sometimes people of power. >> yeah. >> let let's be clear, she's talking about the cops. if i say the words white supremacy to you, you didn't flinch. you nodded. >> white supremacy is the

standard in america and always been and we need to work on actually dismantling it. >> yeah, the north was the melting part of all types of cultures. we have judgments so when they say we -- >> cnn sucks. >> they also pay my rent. >> [ bleep ] cnn. >> thank you. i'll tell my kids. >> make america great again. >> you're doing a good job. love that sweater. >> now there are people out there who are willing to go further than the red neck revolt to stop hate. i'm headed across pugent sound. as we all know, they get the headlines for confronting the alt right and they are associated they have one big difference. the red neck revolt is about preventing violence and they are like we wish a nazi would. they very specifically wanted to

meet up at the japanese american exclusion memorial and whether you love or hate them, chances are you're feeling a nervous jolt of an it ticipation. >> today i was reading an article, antfa. >> not what you're expecting. this is aerial and lucky for us, aerial is here to help us learn. >> tucker from fox news at one point in the not too distant past labeled me a leader of antfa. >> kamau bell among other things is a host of cnn and supporter of antifa. they hate this country. they want to tear it down. none of that seems to matter to kamau bell. >> it funny because i literally don't, i've never been to a meeting. for example, does the pronounce

antifa. >> the way we describe antifa is more like this. do you approve of face sis m? >> no. >> you could consider yourself antifa if you chose to. if you're opposed to facisim. that can be a lot of things. let say they are a really great programmer and can build a website to help children. do you think people deserve love? antifa. >> so in the world of politics, where does it land on the left right spectrum? it doesn't. >> the political compass is more like a square that i use go down to the batottom left, you find communism. >> no hierarchies. you go to the top right, that the where you find facisim. >> where is there i'm with her

democrat. >> probably the left of center a little bit as opposed to right of center, more like trying to think who is a moderate republican. abraham lincoln? >> exactly. that the the last time we had a true moderate republican. now we have to talk about the stuff you see on the news and specifically you've actually at times had to get out there and mix it up. what was it like? >> so i went to visit this protest in portland. there was like the proud boys and this group called act, it anti islamic and this guy just ran at these two girls and so they were both heari ing hijobs. i didn't think of it. i jumped at him but i picked him up like off the ground and i threw him on the ground and i jumped on him and i started

punching him. >> it's not easy to imagine you in the streets punching a proud boy in the face, which doesn't mean i don't believe you would do it. you frame people this is what i'm expecting. this is what this person would be and to sit here with you now, it not what i imagined. oh. i love that these are -- >> i know. i like that. >> can i put them on? wow. and this is a -- >> i usually have a couple of those on me, just in case. >> just in case. >> i use it for whatever i need to use it for. >> point taken. in other words, stay in line, kamau. >> yeah. >> keep it friendly. so you have a bag of things. >> i do. i have -- >> let see -- let do show and tell. including your mask. >> i do. this is good for masking up. this is what a lot of people use. it a black bandanna. wear it like this. so -- >> my heart elevated as you started. [ laughter ] >> is something happening? >> here we go. so these are some of the flyers.

>> oh, so this is the thing you put up around neighborhoods. >> this guy works for i.c.e. grabbing kids taking them away from their families or whatever. i dox. it basically like you post people's public information or make them known to people. >> are you not afraid somebody from the other side say i will dox you? >> they can go for it. >> you could have shown up today masked up so we don't see your face so there is plausible deniability. >> i could have. it never made me stop before. >> so i'm going to block out this person's face. >> yeah. >> have you seen this person getting coffee in your neighborhood or bus. this person is part of pry va tize -- privatized eimmigration system. be on the lockout. some people saying they are a modern day nazi. >> it inflammatory.

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seattle's art and music scene is known for being anti establishment. it not surprising they are with white supremacy. i'm headed to meet with kate and christiane. >> i think our role is explicitly in saying no. strong capital n-to white national list m. i think a big part of our work is generating and holding these spaces for people to cultivate an anti facious dreams.

>> we can be creative and na snarky. there are so many ways to say no. >> no. >> right. >> do you have a pocket guide, meaning when we did this -- >> oh, nice. >> the little no is no, this is bad and not ever is not recognizing. there is a social movement seeking to take over. >> this is like i voted a straight democratic ticket and this is like we got to hit the streets. >> the very least we can do is so no to white nationalism. >> this is the power of art. this is a very intense message putting a very fun little package. you know what i mean? their pamphlet offers things like how to diffuse white supremacy. part that included interviews with activists in the pacific northwest that worked against white nationalism. while they may not identify as

such, i'm pretty sure this is antifa. there is two of my favorite words are in this. they start the whole thing off. how do we solve the problem of white feminism. >> nice. >> when we thing of white national li national, men are totally invisible and white women, they have gotten a pass. >> yeah. in the '20s white women through color under the bus tap sboog what white power and white supremacy offered them. >> you heard that right. i know susan b. anthony is beloved and put on a coin nobody cared about but the women suffrage movement is about white women and receipts show some organizers got it through by reassuring white men white supremacy would be strengthened if white women were given the name to vote. what was going on white women. black women on the other hand

had to wait to 1965 to go to the polls without harassment but like my grandmother said, just because white pokes sfolks say doesn't mean they play it. what do you think of progressive people leading to take up arms and exercise second amendment rights? >> it great. [ laughter ] >> yes. >> that's great. >> it is a great no and yes. ♪ ♪ >> look at this. one of my favorite things. grainy black and white footage of black and white people fighting for sieve rigcivil rig. coming together to fight racism, i'm showing up to soulful dishes to share soulful food with the chapter of the black panther party. these two spent decades together fighting for the cause of justice. i don't want to go too far without noting, there is

narrative the black panthers didn't like white people and wanted to hurt white people and you were there at the beginning and both working together. >> you know, malcolm x went through that evolution, you know. he went through the period of being a black nationalist. and after traveling, not just around the world but in parts of america, he began to realize that this struggle was not just about black people, that the struggle was for the rights of all people. >> that was an enduring solidarity i felt with neighbors of the panther party and era and it's a sense of duty for me. we'll look out for each other. >> and the fact that black americans such as small population, how could we talk about changing the system in america? revolution in america when we're such a small part of the pie? >> in the late '60s the panthers

banded together who ruralized poor white people in the south and pacific northwest. others were the puerto rican led young lords in chicago and the young patriots organization als >> talk about the role with the panther party. >> we carried our weapon everywhere we went. people said the black panther party was violent. no, we weren't violent. we had self-defense. >> everyone was armed. everyone lad a loaded weapon. during that period is when the fbi got active and found a way to bust me. i ended up being charged and convicted of a sawed off shotgun, one quarter inch too short. they gave me ten years. no priors. i'm a graduate student, man. >> yeah. >> as long as they are able to keep us divided and fighting amongst each other, the longer that this racist capitalist

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♪ ♪ since the members of the john brown gun club were such big supporters of black lives matter, i thought i'd give them a chance to sit down with one co-founders and fan boy it out. don't embarrass me, white people. ♪ ♪ >> wait a minute. come on. did we get that? >> you better have gotten that. >> it is honestly an honor to meet you. we wear black lives matter because we're perfectly aligned with the cause you promote. >> excellent. thank you for saying that. why guns? why is guns the organizing principle? >> there is something to be said for being able to show up to a protest with highly armed and primarily violent like far-right activists and they don't do anything when we're there and everything is peaceful and

people get to speak their mind and protest and like you showing up at a rally with a gun is different than me showing up at a rally with a gun and it is an obligation in this country at this point for me to -- for me, i feel, i need to go and put my body in front of their guns and i'm okay with that. my wife isless ok less okay wit. [ laughter ] >> you can use my white privilege to speed on the highway or use my white privilege to put my body in front of other people's guns. >> the idea of white people with guns showing up to protech people like you to speak their mind, i don't want you carrying a gun to a black lives matter rally. >> you know black lives matter already gets characterized as a terrorist organization. >> even when nobody is toting guns. >> i've never held a gun in my life. >> right-wing elements see it as a common ground between us and allows us to start a conversation with them.

>> tas nafascinating. >> we put out literature saying gun control is racist and we identified and explained all the different ways that gun control laws have been used to target black men, specifically. >> all gun laws predominantly in america have been about disarming black people. if white people are afraid of black people with guns, like, that is the root of gun law in america. the southern slave patrols to now. >> yeah. >> interesting point. >> yeah. >> before we wrap this up, i feel like i want to invite you to give them something to take to their white people. >> oh, man. >> yeah. >> i think y'all are doing it, honestly. i feel very heartened. the only other thing i can say is keep embedding yourself in communities that people don't go to except for the alt right. >> on saturday, a group that we work with a lot called tann is having a rally outside of a nne

gn nazi tattoo shop that needs to be shut down. >> i'm going to -- >> you're going to check it out? >> yeah. >> gangster. >> i'm putting that on my wikipedia page. wrap it up there. ♪ ♪ >> the red neck revolt provide their own brand of community defense in many ways like protecting counter protesters, taking a page from the black panthers feeding those in need and teaching gun safety courses like this one. >> go ahead. >> okay. push this button. he's seen the movies. perfect. there you go. [ applause ] >> i've never touched a gun in my life and watching this power point presentation makes me pee. this is hailey. >> how did you get involved in this. >> so there is a local tattoo

parlor in tacoma that is run by confirmed neo-nazis. they would tell you they are not but deck themselves in nazi imagery and it's important to me we have a group of people that stand up and send a public message to say tacoma is a place where we are not going to put up with this, we're not cool with nazis doing business in our community. >> these photos of the tattoo shop owner show numbers of 88 and according to the anti defamation league that the a code for hile hitler and a banner of crossed hammers which is hammer skins, a skin head organization documented by the southern poverty law center and the wolf angle sign worn be i german ss. they got a lot of ways to show you they are nazis. we get it. >> so far we had two protests outside of the tattoo parlor and at the second protest things got

heated. there were a few moments that could have escalated into violence and these guys shut it down. so much about what we're trying to do is build a collision and inspire people to actually take action and they're not all going to be our tactics, but we all need to link our arms and agree that we have a common enemy. >> so i have a question. you have a wedding ring. do you have any kids? >> i have a baby. >> a baby? how old is the baby? >> he's 14 months. just started walking. >> wow. so you're a new mom, married, you have a job. just looking at you, you don't look like a nazi fighter. if i was to read a book called "tacoma nazi fighter," i would expect some grizzled muscled man or woman, but just somebody who is in fatigues, you know, half a cigar. are you afraid? >> i imagine you're familiar with 4chan. there is a level deeper called 8chan. i learned that this summer. >> 4chan and 8chan are internet message boards that attract

fringe groups that can post anonymously and share information without censorship. these are dark corners of the internet that make the worst parts of twitter look like your grandma's etsy page. >> there are threads on 8chan of white supremacists are, like, trying to hunt down my address. my husband and i have been nervous. we, you know, we have a baby. >> mmm-hmm. mmm-hmm. >> we're not trying to be reckless, but we just feel so strongly it's time for us to show up with our faces and our reputations and our bodies and just take on a little bit of that risk that everyone else has been -- doesn't get to choose whether or not to have that safety. >> i think that's the important part for me because taking on that risk and with your skin, with your white skin. >> yeah, exactly. like, i'm here to show my white face and show them that i'm here and i don't like what they're doing. u ever wish you weren't a motaur? sure. sometimes i wish i had legs like you. yeah, like a regular person. no. still half bike/half man, just the opposite.

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and potentially violent group. so we are overindexing on safety. i think we're going to have a fun day if we can just follow instructions. it's going to be a good time. >> just like a mom. have fun but be safe. >> i'm hosting my husband's and my brother's joint birthday party at my house right after this protest. >> i love this. like we still have to live our lives. >> my husband is at home cooking his own birthday dinner for his own party. >> honey, i have to fight nazis. you also have to pick up some slack. ♪ >> the vibe here is very sort of pleasant, strangely, and, like, you know, it feels like we could tailgate if we wanted to. it's nice. now, is that on the run ii hat from a couple of nights ago? >> yes. >> so you went to the jay-z and beyonce concert in seattle? >> yes, i did. yeah. >> so you've really got a full, like, shot of, like, let's do this. >> yeah. >> yeah, yeah, yeah. >> put your signs up.

up in the air to protest all the nazis. if you like it then you gotta kick the nazis out. i've probably already broken copyright violations by singing this much of the song. although it's parody. it's parody. it's covered under parody. i don't have to pay for this. ♪ i thought i would be across the street from the nazis. we're about to walk past the nazi tattoo shop right now. >> whose town? >> our town. >> whose town? >> our town. >> nazi scum -- >> your time is done. >> whose town? >> our town. >> whose town? >> our town. >> what's up, my man? >> what's up, man? >> how are you doing? >> good. how are you doing? >> good. so they got people coming in from the back. they went down the alley so they're coming in from the back. that truck, i don't know if you notice, came from over here. >> so you're seeing some action happen. >> well, they're just showing up. we'll see how it goes, but it looks good. great crowd.

this is awesome. >> yeah, it's a great crowd. >> nazi scum -- >> your time is done. >> nazi scum -- >> your time is done. >> and while i was afraid something bad might happen, apparently when you show up with a bunch of committed and dancing community members and the gun toting redneck revolt, white supremacy takes a knee. >> so how is this going? >> fantastic. >> amazing. >> what do you think? >> it's weird. it seems good. when i was told earlier in the week i was going to go to a nazi protest, i didn't go, oh, that should be fun. >> but it's fun. >> it is. >> people love getting rid of nazis. >> i mean, what feels better than this, right? >> i didn't expect kids to be here. >> this is like an all-time picnic, right? it's like everybody in america should take a day off on the weekend and protest nazis. it should be just a thing. >> it's so cool to me to see the broad base of community support. like, we've got the john brown gun club, we have the moms. some representing the moms. we had a couple of neighbors

come by and say, oh, my god, i didn't know anybody actually cared. thank you. somebody finally showed up. >> i think a lot of people are color are going to be surprised to know there are white people out there and a lot of white people like i thought i was doing enough. >> i hope so. we're not just allies, we're accomplices. >> co-conspirators. i'll sleep better knowing you're out here. i'll let you get back to it. thank you. >> thanks a lot. >> what can i do? that was the question that started this whole thing. and unlike most episodes of this show when we ask questions, this time we definitely answered it. you can use your privilege to defend others and you can have fun while you're doing it. you can get directly in the fight and you can still make it home in time for that birthday party, and all the while you can learn from the people around you who have been doing this work for years. white people, we've seen what these folks are willing to do. what are you willing to do? it's not a rhetorical question. >> black lives mater. black lives mater. black lives mater.

>> that's the first time i've ever heard a black lives mater chant that i didn't feel like i had to get in on. they got it. black lives mater. >> black lives mater. black lives mater. black lives mater. black lives mater. black lives mater. >> that's what you got to do, white people. this is oakland. you have to always be aware of your surroundings. >> as a child coming up, it was definitely violent. >> the war was going on. >> do you know how upset i would be if something ever happened to you? and she said, yeah, daddy, i do. >> i never knew the violence that i was capable of. i pulled the trigger from a 12-gauge shotgun. >> i hav