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right now that does not exist. wolf? >> pretty awful situation. thanks for that report. i know you got two more reports coming up here in the situation room to continue to follow-up on this explosion of anti-semitism. sarah, thanks very much for that report. i'm wolf blitzer in the situation room. erin burnett out front starts right now. out front next, breaking news. donald trump, jr. stone walls, refusing to answer questions about two very specific topics. what are they, and what is he hiding? plus president trump threatening to hit china with even more tariffs and what could this mean for trump country? a farmer about to lose tens of thousands of dollars because of tariffs is my guest. plus breaking news the man who oversaw the russia investigation, rod rosenstein, about to break his silence this hour about the investigation. let's go out front this hour. out front this evening, breaking news. new details on what trump junior
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may be trying to hide. the president's son refusing to answer questions tonight from the republican led senate intelligence committee. this is according to two sources, and we now know what questions trump, jr. won't answer. anything about trump tower moskow or his infamous meeting with an admitted russian informant. sources tell cnn at one point trump did actually agree to be interviewed, but he backed out over what the republican chairman richard burr wanted to ask. and the committee wants a lot more than just those two topics. sources tell cnn tonight the committee wanted to cover roughly a dozen topics with trump junior. and after months of negotiations the republican chair of the committee, richard burr is done with trump. he's subpoenaed trump junior. current trump backer lindsey graham, the chairman of the senate judiciary committee is
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urging him to take the fifth but only after he urged the president's son to ignore the subpoena. >> if i were donald trump, jr., his lawyer, i would tell him you don't need noo go back in this environment anymore. you've been there for hours and hours and hours and nothing being alleged here changes the outcome of the mueller investigation. i would call it a day. >> the republican chairman with a power subpoena encouraging, well, the president's son not to honor a subpoena to his republican colleague chairman burr. that a stunning development. manu, obviously this is crucial. you've got these two topics that we know don junior does not want to talk about. what else do we know about the committee wants to ask donald trump, jr. about? >> well, republicans and democrats on the panel want to clear up any discrepancies of his past testimony in the aftermath of the release of the mueller report. in previous testimony before a separate committee, a senate judiciary committee which released a transcript of donald
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trump's appearance said when he was discussing the runup he said he would only brief jared kushner and manafort before that meeting, but we've now learned from the mueller report that he said in a morning meeting with top trump campaign officials and family members he had a lead on dirt on the clinton foundation in the runup to that 2016 meeting, so republicans and democrats want to ask him about that. they also want to ask what he said previously before a separate committee about his knowledge of the trump tower moskow project. michael cohen testified under oath and said that he had briefed donald trump, jr. multiple times about the project, so they want to understand more about that. we are being told is that donald trump, jr.'s attorneys have said they don't want to get into those areas. they're concerned about what republicans say is a, quote, perjury trap. they say he's cooperated ens tensively. they don't like the format
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that's been proposed. and what has setoff republicans and democrats on the senate intelligence committees is they believe they had an inagreement for donald trump, jr. initially for voluntary interview before he initially backed off, which prompted richard burr to issue that subpoena. but we're told talks continue about possibly trying to reach a deal, possibly about written answers to donald trump, jr., and his attorneys are open to. so far they've said so. you're hearing some republicans on capitol hill saying take the fifth or defy the subpoena. >> all right, manu, thank you very much. and of course we should note when you look at the mueller report in the section on collusion with russia, that is where you see the vast majority of the redactions, and some of them come right after sentences that do involve inconsistencies in the public testimony under oath and interviews, things mueller found out about donald trump, jr. out front now former counsel
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to ken starr joined the campaign to former white house associate to the white house. thank tuesday the both of you. what does it say to you let's start here with the two specific topics, trump tower moskow and the 2016 meeting in trump tower with the russian informant and others that don junior does not want to talk about? what does that same to you? >> well, the first thing it says to me is it's not case closed, it's case still open. there certainly are questions yet to be asked of donald trump, jr., and it also says to me that he's worried that the evidence mueller's put on the plate seems to contradict his earlier testimony to the senate and the houses as we've heard from your reporter. the truth of the matter, nobody knows for sure, but i certainly understand why he doesn't want to be called to account for the inconsistencies between what he has said in the past and what
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others have said about him. >> there are inconsistencies, right, and as i've pointed out when these inconsistencies, there's redacted text and questions what that might include. you also have in addition to the two topics now a dozen topics that senators on that republican chair committee want to ask donald trump, jr. about. only two include trump tower moskow and the meeting in new york. >> i think as paul said there are more questions to be asked and answered by donald trump, jr. and, you know, it may be that the mueller investigation has raised additional new questions that they want to ask him, new topics, new areas of exploration. the ones we've always focused on is that meeting at trump tower moskow. but the range of topics the senate might be interested in can be diverse. more to come on what those are and how those are playing out.
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if he doesn't want to testify, it's going to be very hard for the senate to make him testify. this is largely a political fight between him and his lawyers and the committee. >> okay, so paul, talk to me about what these powers are. so far donald junior is defying the subpoena, which a serious offense. he could be held in contempt or go to jail. what's the next step in the process here if he does formally defy the subpoena? >> it's a very difficult road for the committee to hold. and mitch mcconnell controls access to the senate floor. he's determined already that the case is closed and that he wants to move on, and it's going to take a supreme act of defiance by the republican members of the senate to override the will of the majority leader. i think, frankly, it would be a travesty if they did not, it would be a travesty if the republican senate accepted the
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refusal of a private citizen witness to testify, one with no privilege at all. but that seems to be where we are. >> so what happens? is it possible the example the american public sees is you can seemingly perjure yourself in one state or the other or tell a lie and defy a subpoena and get away with it? >> well, i think what makes this really hard is even if they were to enforce a subpoena and hold him in contempt, right, what power do they have to enforce it? they could try to use the power of the senate to arrest him. that hasn't happened in a hundred years and not to a private individual, so that's not happening. they can go to the trump justice department and ask to enforce a criminal subpoena. that's not likely to happen. it happened with eric holder and the obama administration didn't enforce that. those cases are still pending so
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this idea somehow even if they were holding him in contempt they'd be effective is a challenge, too. it does make a statement. >> where are we here, paul? you've got 20 egz investigations right now going into president trump. it runs the gamut. they have failed fto comply thi administration with 79 requests. is that par for the course? is that normal, or are we at an important moment in history? >> well, it's certainly not normal. as jemel says, there have been instances in the past which administrations have resisted particular types of inquiry. this is the first instance in which a president has effectively declared himself immune from congressional oversight. he has done so i'm sure for political reasons. it certainly plays to the base.
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and he has also discerned as jemel described congress' role to enforce is very weak especially when his own party is willing to defend him in the counsels of the senate as this senate majority seems to be. it is really a wholesale stiff arm or a stonewall, if you will, of the congressional investigative process to a degree that we've never seen before that makes it different in kind. >> all the, i think it's important for people to realize that it is different in kind. thank you so very much both of you. and next the breaking news, the dow plunging more than 600 points. president trump threatening more tariffs tonight. this is the biggest gamble of his presidency. plus president trump offering up nothing but praise for yet another strong man who the united states has shunned both parties for nearly two decades. >> probably like me a little bit controversial, but that's okay.
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tariffs on everything from china, adding another $300 billion to his tariff war. already today stocks went into free fall. the down down 617 points, which is the worst drop in four months. as you can see with this new threat tonight the trade war escalating quickly. now according to trump, though, it all means more money for america. >> we are taking in billions of dollars of tariffs, and those tariffs are going to be tremendously -- bottom line is we are taking in tremendous amount of money. it already started as of last friday, but it really started seven months before that. it's in the form of tariffs or taxes, and it had a tremendous impact. >> taking in tremendous amounts of money, of course the question is from where, and that's where the problem is. you were the ones paying that extra money, we are, the consumers. here's president trump's top economic advisor, his top
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economic advisor larry kudlow. >> it's u.s. businesses and u.s. consumers who pay, correct? >> yes, to some extent. i don't disagree with that. larry's always honest and he doesn't disagree with that because it is true. when trump slaps tariffs on china and brags about $300 billion of them those tariffs usually get passed along to the people who buy those products, ie, us, americans. so for american farmers it's a double whammy because they're paying for what they buy and they're paying on tariffs to china as part of what they sell. out front now, he could lose $65,000 this year on his farm because of tariffs. it's a stunning number. bill, i appreciate your time. i mean, talk to us about the scale here. you've got tonight the president saying put tariffs on everything, another $300 billion
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after china threatens to retaliate today. how much have the tariffs hurt you? >> it's definitely real out here, erin. in the rural communities we're starting to feel in our schools and where farmers are making money and we're coming up with money from our savings accounts, basically our equity and moving into our cash flow to pay back our loans and different inputs from those countries and it's definitely starting to get dire out here in rural america. >> and you're talking about as things continue $65,000 for you and your farm? >> yeah, for right now just on our farm just between what my cost of production was, so basically zero to break even. right now i have to come up with another $65,000 just to plant this crop. it's more not to plant the crop, that's the unfortunate part. that we need to plant the crop that's actually a lower loss percentage than not putting in the crop at all. >> it's how much you're losing,
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that's what you mean? >> correct. correct. right now and then this time value of the tariffs, there's other economic parts here. we've done a really good job of raising the crop. what we do here as american farmers we have our counter parts in south america raising a great cop. that definitely puts strain on the markets also. but also when you have the time value of the tariffs and trade basically with china they offered 20 million metric tons of soybeans to be purchased, they only purchased around 5 million metric tons, and it'll probably be until late fall. >> when you talk about this, when you said that's what we do, i know you're talking about sort of the moral fabric of what it means to be a farmer and feel a purpose in providing food for others. this situation i know is hurting peoples' lives. and when i say lives i mean lives. you're talking about even seeing a rise in suicides as a result
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of these tariffs. >> yeah, and all this economic downturn a few years back we had a gray mark in corn and soybeans and even wheat and different crops. that has turned in the last five years. we've had an economic downturn, our prices have lowered. we've done a good job of overproducing like we do trying to raise food. and now with these added tariffs farmers are not getting their lines renewed, banks are foreclosing on fair farms and taking their living away. we've seen a definite increase in suicide rates and depression in farmers in the united states, especially the upper midwest. >> on the human side i think a lot of people don't realize. i hope people hear this. bill, thank you very much. >> yeah, thank you. thank you for taking the opportunity to talk to us here, and just we're like everybody else, we want to raise our family out here in rural america. we want to raise a crop you guys can eat and safe, affordable
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food. and when it's taken away from us it's really tough on us personally and tough on our families. >> bill, thank you. i want to go to the economic analyst and president of bionco research. you heard what bill said, just the deep impact that this is having broadly in rural america when he's talking about, you know, schools are now being impacted, individual farmers, depression suicide. and it's pretty hard to hear when you hear the human toll that is happening. >> yeah, it is. and that's the problem with a tariff. a tariff is a tax, and it does reduce the price and it does reduce dammed fdemand for our product especially for the farmer. he can't wait because they'll spoil by then. but president trump did tweet over the weekend that the money
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he's bringing in from tariff would be redistributed back to farms like bill in the form of some kind of bill that would be coming. now, a tweet is not a bill, but he did say that would be coming so hopefully there's some relief coming for them soon. >> do you think that will olive is it? i know big picture, gym, you're not someone who supports tariffs but you're talking about a window of time. >> right, let's remember what we're trying to do here. the chinese engage in corporate espionage, break what we call western rules, and there needs to be some bringing them into line. we've got an imperfect tool in tariffs in trying to do that. eren chuck schumer is in favor of what president trump is doing, so there is some bipartisan support. so the idea here is that we're not going to put tariffs on prmly but use it as a stick to try to get a better trade deal. if it takes a longer period of time it is going to run into
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problems. and just reskribting tariff money back to farmers can only stop the gap. >> as if you're trying to plug a giant hole with a straw. it's interesting, though, when you hear jim saying use a stick to try and get what you want, think it's going to work quickly. you heard the president bragging about the money the u.s. treasury is getting from china and leaving out the inconvenient fact it is americans paying the higher prices as larry kudlow was very honest and admit. does the president really think people don't know that? is this part of his strategy? >> well, i think the whole tariff issue is part of his political strategy for sure. this is what he promised his base, and he's delivering. and it's a battle of the two largest economies in the world. and it's what they wanted from 2016 when he promised it to his base, to the first day in office he said he was going to go to war with china.
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as far as the american people, i don't think the president is in touch at all with the impact that it has not only the farmers but the average family across the country. it's been suggested it's going to cost every home $800. that's like 80 cents to him. he can't relate to the fact that $800 is going to come out of peoples budgets, and it's going to change the way they consume products in this country because they'll be forced to do it. >> so you think he's negotiating without basically any empathy? >> oh, i don't think that there's any empathy at all, you know, for the american people and the price that certain people are going to pay. i think he probably hopes that this is going to be a short-term issue and that he's going to be able to solve this in june at the summit. but if it carries on, you know, we all know it's going to be disastrous for this economy. so i think he'll cut a deal just
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for that alone. i don't think he can afford to have -- go into 2020 with the economy collapsing. >> no, that certainly he can't do. thank you both very much. i appreciate it. and next trump embracing a far right nationalist who was shunned by both parties in the united states for nearly two decades. >> highly respected, respected all over europe. for the first time deputy attorney general rod rosenstein breaking his silence about mueller's investigation and former fbi director jim comey, and he's not hoeding back this hour.
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president trump meeting the man steve bannon once called the trump before trump. hungary's far right minister embraced by trump lavished praise on him, inviting him today to the oval office. >> reporter: in the oval office president trump full of praise for viktor orban. the man the european union has branded a systemic threat to the rule of law as the prime minister of hungary. >> probably like me a little bit controversial, but that's okay. that's okay. you've done a good job. >> reporter: orban is just the latest version of autocrat trump has either welcomed or praised. yet trump's ex-campaign manager steve bannon called orban trump
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before trump. >> we will stand together with the united states on fighting against illegal migration. >> reporter: in the last eight years orban and his party have been accused by international observers of chipping away democracy, rewriting the constitution, allowing corruption, controlling the media, gerrymandering, thwarting opposition. months ago an international watchdog group named hungary the least democratic in the eu. but he and trump do have some things in common. >> america first. >> orban's motto, hungary first. in 2010 he seized on populism after economic downturn and fear over migrants. orban called it an invasion. >> you look at what's marching up, that's an invasion. >> orban built a wall, a big one on the border with serbia. >> we will build a wall. mexico is going to pay for the wall. >> orban sent the bill for his
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wall to the eu. and he's demonized hungarian born billionaire george soros who has the ability to form opposition there just as trump supporters here. around 90% of hungary's media either under state control or orban's friends according to a hungarian study. >> one of the reasons he didn't want to meet with this guy because he considered the way he ran his society beyond the pail and worthy of the rep mand of the united states. >> reporter: the last time an american let orban in for a one-on-one was 1998. so trump administration officials tell cnn this is just a way to engage more with central european countries at a time when they're being courted by the likes of russia and china and they want the erosion of democracy to stop. although trump wasn't expected to bring that up in this meeting. so it ends up being one more
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time when trump finds plenty of kind words for somebody like viktor orban on the same day he is partially criticizing a fellow american, namely a democrat, namely on this day congresswoman rasheda talib. >> so you see that piece laying out the history. it's not just the history of this person, this prime minister. it's the history of united states leaders of both parties saying that's not acceptable. and yet president trump welcomes hill, calls him highly respected. >> i think you could look at this from a policy lens and saying it'd be nice to have no media attacking. i think there's a simpler lesson that has to do with the
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president's ego. as the foreign policy guy i keep trying to find a systematic explanation. every circumstance, north korea, ru russia, china on trade, nato in terms of how they pay for nato costs -- every single time if you can find me a time where the president said the guys before me got it right, every single time it's like iran, again north korea, nafta. every single time it's like they got it wrong, i'm the genius in the room, i'll change it. >> it comes down to more simple, ego. to the point phil's making, trump's-lace of praising dictators, you know, some of whom by the way did receive a bit more positive reception by other administrations than viktor orban has, but president trump embraces them all. here he is. >> chairman kim jong-un, a man i have gotten to know and like
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wants peace and prosperity for north korea. i think putin's been a very strong leelder for russia. i think he's been a lot stronger than our leader, that i can tell you. it's a great honor and privilege because he's become a friend of mine to introduce president erdogan of turkey. we've never had a better relationship, egypt and the united states, than we do right now. i think he's doing a great job. >> i mean, you know, before you smile when you look at the record of jails murdering dissidents, murdering journalists, these countries are the worst of the worst. >> right. and there's something about inviting them as he did today into the oval office and sort of denigrating that room. and, you know, you can do these kinds of meetings if there's a policy reason for it at a lower level. i want to make something clear two important points. one is to remember how orban came into power, and it was
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really what's called the polarization model, and i think that's what's actually appealing to donald trump. it is pitting people against each other. so it's the anti-semitism, the immigration, the lgbtq issues. those issues that serve as a dog whistle here domestically to those forces here who see trump praise someone who came into power by polarizing rather than uniting. the second thing is even if it's true there should be a median or maybe just trump's ego, the timing cannot be forgotten. there are eu elections next week. if he wants to meet like the head of hungary why not in two weeks? trump is signaling whistling to the forces of autocracy in those elections, brexit and others, he does not want the more progressive groups to win. so to me this was more purposeful, more signaling, more dog whistling for the domestic audience than just a national security issue.
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>> and also, phil, when you talk about the timing of what issue he's going to take a stand on. in the united states he likes to take a stand against congressman talib. the president tweeted today she obviously has tremendous hatred of israel and the jewish people. she is enemy number one for him. and yet he is a highly respected guy. >> let's take a step back here. look, i don't like what the congresswoman said. i thought she was out of line. i thought she should have never used those words. that said, let's look at the president in perspective. you're going to go out and say you've got love let toorz kim jong-un who murders his own citizens. you're going to go out and say i'm reluctant to do anything for saudi arabia. you're going to go out and have a love affair with vladimir putin who was involved as far as i can tell in murdering
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oppositionist. i thought her words were inappropriate. that said, legitimacy is a problem when you hear the president say all these dictators who not only side line opponents but murder them, i like those people. i don't know how you have a legitimacy in going after the congresswoman with that in your background. >> it's just utter hypocrisy of what he chooses to say. thank you both very much. and next the fight for 2020. bernie sanders taking the stage this hour with alexandria ocasio-cortez. will it give him a boost as biden is clearly taking the lead? plus breaking news. the man who oversaw the russia investigation, rod rosenstein, speaking out this hour at this moment. his first public remarks. the best home to be in is your own. home instead offers personalized in-home services for your loved ones. home instead senior care. to us, it's personal.
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at this hour in the fight for 2020 senator bernie sanders about to appear at a rally in support of the green new deal. he's attending a washington event hosted by the planned greatest champion congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez. sanders is with the far left hero aoc as the more moderate joe biden remains the clear front-runner in polls. here he is today in new hampshire. >> this election is bigger than any you've been engaged in, not because i'm running or anybody else is running but because who occupies the office. this election is quite frankly bigger than politics. >> out front now is cnn
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political commentators joan walsh, national affairs correspondent for the nation, and paul begala. sanders is on stage with aoc talking about the green new deal. is this smart? >> well, sure. aoc is a celebrity to the young left. bernie sanders is also a celebrity to the young left to be honest. >> it's amazing. >> i know, so, you know, this is his crowd. this is one of his issues, and i think he's got to really push his base because biden has certainly cut into his poll standing. you know, even though these two men are so divergent ideologically they are really competing pretty directly. and since biden got in the race bernie has fallen both nationally and in several states. so he's got to be clear that i am on the progressive cutting edge and joe biden is behind me. >> right, and i guess that's the big question, paul, is what group is going to determine this
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election? is it the progressive young cutting edge, or is it the, you know, voters from midwest and swing states, right, who felt left behind by the economy? not the young voters, right, the older whiter voters. so jason carol recently went out to north eastern pennsylvania which flipped from obalm taw to trump, those voters going for trump. here's what one couple had to say about aoc and the green new deal. they did vote for obama, but here they are now. >> i think she's too bizarre. >> too bizarre in. >> yes, i think she's ridiculous and should be more realistic. you know, we are people, we live on this planet. we want to survive. >> we want to get all this environment projects done in ten years and it's impossible. you lose jobs and wages, you lose -- you're going to lose your economy. >> paul, those are voters, they voted for obama and then they voted for trump, right? that aoc green new deal is not
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going to work with that kind of voter. what is more important for joe biden to appeal to? those voters or the aoc standard voters? >> it's like asking which child do you love the most. i know my mother loved me the most. she told me yesterday on mother's day. i think it's a false choice i really do the art of this. and the democratic party is diverse party and big party. so you've got to be able to do both. and also reach out to folks who voted for donald trump and say come on back, we represent you. i will say too many -- i don't have a favorite. i think too many of these candidates and i've talked to most of them, i think they're chasing the kind of well-off well educated white liberals too much. i have nothing against them, i am one. we are not talking enough i think to the heart and soul of the democratic party. there's nothing wrong with my
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fellow white liberals on twitter, but somebody needs to get back to people of color, blue collar whites, those folks who are still a vast group of am democratic party. >> is there ultimately going to be a choice? you can be a big party but at some point different groups want different things. >> sure, there will be choices and candidates are making choices. and joe biden has decided he's going to be okay with being in the moderate lane. he's not hiding his corporate ties. he's had several corporate fund raisers. >> you've got to give him credit because what's the point in hiding it? >> exactly. he's embracing to some extent his place in the center lane, that lane mike bloomberg wasn't sure was there. i think biden's going down that lane. an advisor told reuters he was searching for a middle ground on climate change and they got scalded over the weekend for that. so they backed off from it, but we're going to see. he's got an environmental platform coming out shortly. we'll see how far it goes and what of the green
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embraces. >> and paul, big question, though, biden in the past has said we do need to finish this green new deal revolution. and maybe he looks back and says that's something to be concerned about. but you see in the polls people and the democratic party support the green new deal overwhelmingly they support the green new deal. 61% of them are likely to support someone who's in favor of it. again, that's the primary voter but what's going to be -- >> does he at his risk, at his peril embrace it too quickly? >> yeah, i think people especially democrats want action on climate. if i were joe biden and if i were working for him and i'm not, i'd say, joe, you should call it green new deal part 2. joe biden ran that for president obama, and it had billions of dollars in exactly the kind of stuff all of us in the
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washington. evan, look, there's been reporting about rosenstein and what he thinks about this or thought about that. this is the first time that rosenstein is speaking publicly. >> reporter: that's right, erin. until now we've heard accounts of exactly what went on when he was asked to write the memo that the president used in order to fire james comey, the director of the fbi. we've heard those accounts from everyone including from the mueller report, which was released just a couple weeks ago. now he has finished his term as deputy attorney general, almost 30 years serving inside the justice department. for the first time he is actually a regular citizen. he's now speaking in baltimore at an event he was speaking to two years ago right when after the firing of james comey. so we expect that he's going to be talking a little bit about perhaps responding to some of the comments from comey.
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if you remember comey at the cnn town hall last week questioned rosenstein and his character, said he did not have strong character, and questioned whether or not people like rosenstein didn't stand up enough to president trump over the last couple of years. so we know that he's been sort of itching to respond to some of those things having been muzzled for the last couple of years, erin. >> and, evan, obviously the significance here for congress also, right? everybody is going to be watching because these are the first public comments. >> reporter: right, exactly. look, he is actually one of the people we are hoping to hear from. we know the democrats in congress have said that they would like to have him testify in congress as a result of seeing the mueller report, but we have not yet heard exactly what he's going to say tonight. and certainly when he is called, i think he's now begun speaking, erin, as we speak. now we're able to use some of
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the prepared remarks we had been able to get our hands on beforehand. i'll tell you one of the things he said in response to the comey criticism. he said the former director of the fbi comey, is a partisan pundit now, selling books and earning speaking fees while speculating on the strength of my character and the fate of my immortal soul. this is a direct response to the comments comey made to anderson cooper at that cnn town hall last week in which he questioned the strong -- whether rosenstein had strong enough character to stand up to the president. >> wow. pretty significant slam there. evan, thank you very much. rod rosenstein calling jim comey a partisan pundit. and next, jeanne moos on the president's go-to answer when he doesn't have an answer. tyler's off to college... and mom's getting older... and eventually we would like to retire. td ameritrade can help you build a plan for today
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>> reporter: from korea to russia -- >> but we're going to see what happens. >> reporter: from hurricanes -- >> we'll see what happens. >> reporter: -- to health care. >> we'll see what happens. no particular rush. >> reporter: it's perfect to fill time when the president's in no particular rush to answer, or maybe he wants to build suspense. >> something could happen with respect to the paris accord. we'll see what happens. >> reporter: as one critic tweeted, it's like he thinks every question is a teaser heading into a commercial break. the phrase is so beloved by the president that he's used it three times in a mere five-second answer, again, on the subject of north korea -- >> we'll see what happens. we'll see what happens. certainly it's not a first choice. we will see what happens. >> reporter: in a few cases we've actually seen what happened. >> we'll see what happened with mr. bannon. >> reporter: three days later mr. bannon went bye-bye. james comey -- >> i have confidence in him. we'll see what happens.
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>> reporter: comey was fired less than a month later. so when the president mentions seeing what happens -- >> i'm very disappointed with the attorney general, but we will see what happens. >> reporter: beware. jeanne moos, cnn, new york. and thanks for joining us. anderson's next so we'll see what happens. good evening. we begin tonight with breaking news. rod rosenstein is firing back at former fbi director james comey. mr. rosenstein is about to speak at an event in baltimore, maryland. our evan perez joins me now. evan, what do we expect mr. rosenstein to say? >> reporter: well, anderson, this is the first time we'll hear from him since he left. one of the first comments is going after james comey, the former director of the fbi who, as you remember, made comments at the town hall with you last week questioning his character. today rod