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i'll just give you a little shot here. >> his specialty was not only making the audience laugh but making all the other people he was playing with break out in laughter as well. that was harvey korman he was working with.
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in a statement to cnn, carol burnett saying she is heartbroken, adding he was one in a million.noas a loving huma. tonight, burnett will dedicate the performance of her one woman show to conway's memory. i ran into him in los angeles and he was a true gentleman every time and oh, so funny. he died after a long battle with illness. he was 85 and will be missed. the news continues. i want to hand it over to chris for "cuomo primetime." >> well done. we'll pay tribute to him tonight as well. he deserves it. he will be missed but he will be remembered as well. what a legacy. thank you, my friend. i am chris cuomo. welcome to "primetime." don junior cut a deal with gop senators. he's going to testify but basically on his own terms. we have the condition and the most revealing aspect which is what he had to say to the senators that helped him. guess who is here tonight. alyssa milano. what's the deal with the sex strike? laws all over this country challenging a woman's right to her own body. she lays out potentially
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desperate times and desperate measures. and your screens aren't showing you the border much anymore, are they? but things are worse, not better. look at this. kids sleeping outside, dirt and rocks. they're in u.s. custody at the border. we have exclusive photos that demand explanation. but more importantly, they demand action. what do you say. are you with me? let's get after it. heartbeat bills and more extreme measures popping up restricting abortions often before women even know they're pregnant. today alabama's senate began considering a bill that would effectively ban abortion entirely, but what matters is the process. take a look at who is doing this and how. >> when the woman is known to be pregnant. >> when she is known to be pregnant?
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>> yes, sir. so she has to take a pregnancy test, she has to do something to know whether she is pregnant or not. you can't know that immediately. it takes some time for all of those chromosomes and all of that that you mentioned. it doesn't happen immediately. >> you hear the laughter in the chamber. not going to be a lot of laughing if a law like that gets to the supreme court and they change the reckoning of roe v. wade. alyssa milano says desperate times call for desperate measures and just called for a sex strike to fight back. she recently launched a podcast called sorry not sorry and here is what she says matters now. thank you for being on "primetime." >> thank you for the opportunity. >> so let's talk about what you have called for. the sex strike. what do you hope for with this and what has been the reaction? >> really, my hope was to raise awareness for the 16 bills happening all over our country that are trying to roll back
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women's rights. i think the tweet alone was able to do that. the reaction has been mixed. i think some people took it extremely seriously. but my purpose was simply i felt like these bills were being ignored and sending out that tweet, look at me now, i'm on your show and we're talking about women's rights and how they're being rolled back. >> that is true. although in fairness, i asked you long before and i would love to have you on again. i wasn't just drawn by this as bait. but just to clarify the record for anxious men all over this country, is the strike something that you want to see? or is it just about awareness? >> i think it's about awareness. i think that we need to take this incredibly seriously. these bills are ridiculous. a lot of them are, you know, in
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georgia, the heartbeat bill. basically criminalizing abortion after six weeks. most women don't know they're pregnant before eight weeks. i was eight weeks before i found out. so we're criminalizing abortion after six weeks. in ohio there's a weird stipulation where if you have an ectopic pregnancy they want to take it out and reinsert it into the uterus. why is that ridiculous? that procedure doesn't exist at all. texas, they had a hearing where women can be given the death penalty if she gets an abortion. these are serious -- these are serious bills, although absurd and the reason they are absurd is because they're going to end up in court. and why is that important? because eventually one of these cases will end up in the supreme court. >> maybe. >> maybe, but this is what we were fighting so hard for with kavanaugh. >> this is what the point of the
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bills are. the bills hopefully will become laws at the state level from their proponents' perspective and they'll get lucky at some point and get before the supreme court and hope that the different composition of judges may change a different standard. two points of pushback. are these things now largely theoretical? they're moving their way through as we saw in georgia, many would start to take effect in 2020, which is of course an election year and you have a lot of women who are pro-life and in favor of these bills. so it's not like all women are on the same page about this. >> i don't think there's a human on the planet that's not pro-life. nobody wants to get an abortion. nobody. we are all pro-life. but there are circumstances that we cannot avoid. there's a mother's health. there's just not being ready, you know? and what that means financially. this is an economic issue. just because there's women that don't believe in abortion, don't take away someone else's right and i have to also say this will
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affect the communities of color more than anything, okay? this is -- i feel like any woman of privilege that lives in one of these states, if this goes through, they're going to be able to travel to a state to get a safe reproductive health care. but for the women of color, for the women that are marginalized, for the women that are low income communities, the women that are most at risk these bills will be catastrophic. and just because something is -- look at yesterday. what happened yesterday? a 40-year precedent was overturned in the supreme court. there's no telling that that won't happen with roe v. wade. susan collins, she said, i believe that roe v. wade was settled. well, a precedent was unsettled yesterday after 40 years. >> it can happen. that's what the supreme court does. the supreme court makes precedent and just because it's
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a latin phrase, that means this is decided, doesn't have to stay that way. now you see this as a window into a larger political issue for you, which is a perceived war on women whether it's equal pay, equal rights to their own bodies. how broad do you see the agenda? >> well, here's the deal. this all goes hand in hand. the house has been able to pass many bills that have been for women's benefits. mitch mcconnell has not had a hearing on one of them, violence again women act, the equal pay act, it's -- it's incredibly unfortunate but also really obvious. now i also want to point out that the senate are the people that actually appoint judges. trump and mcconnell have been able to push through over 100 judges in the lower courts. that is court stacking and the
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federalist society, this has been a plan for them. >> elections have consequences. >> exactly. and we can't have a country that functions as a democracy if our courts are skewed and one-sided. so, this is serious. we need to gain four seats in the senate for that not to happen. so, 2020 to me is not just about the presidency. we have to start thinking about the senate. >> before we run away from the sex strike and i get that there's something playful about it and it was certainly provocative and i was looking at that toxic crucible of twitter and how people reacted to you about it. and you got all shades of ugly there as well. what about the idea of being a figure that started a sex strike
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and what about the idea of women coming together on a council that not is about starving men of sex or anything like that but a more concerted effort of women to target their own issues as a collective voice. we don't have a woman's party in this country. we don't have a woman's guild. we have seen marches but do you think it's time for more of that? >> yes, but i think the key to that is to communicate, to figure out what the best thing to do is. meaning there are many people on the ground, these grassroots organizations like sister song that are fighting these bills in the south. we all have to come together as a collective voice. we have to turn this fear that we're feeling right now into power and into votes in 2020. >> for the men watching, the sex strike is a threat at this point. don't make it become real by sleeping on these agenda items that milano is putting out there. >> here's the deal, these bills
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make sex and getting pregnant extremely dangerous for women. so at some point, we have to really consider what it means. what it means for sexuality. we don't just need men for pleasure. sorry. >> why would i take offense to that. i want to say something though. thank you for coming on. i know that you're not feeling well and i know you're shooting and i know this matters to you enough that you put those aside to take the opportunity. i appreciate you doing it. these bills and these laws have to be focused on. women and men need to pay attention and then we'll let the elections decide what they do. thank you. i'll see you again soon. >> thank you for the opportunity to talk about women's rights. thank you. >> since we have been airing that interview there's been movement. just to give you a sense of the stakes of the cause. it's an ongoing debate in the alabama senate. but right now, on the ban vote, there are to be no exceptions for rape or incest.
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an amendment to include those things failed. now we'll see if it can continue and there's some change there but it just shows you how dire the stakes are. how extreme these moves are. so that's one issue. another it's been a lot of high drama since the gop controlled senate intel committee subpoenaed the president's son but this donald trump does know how to cut a deal. he's going to testify but wait until you hear what he will and won't have to deal with and please look at these images. why won't washington do something to help? these kids are being held in u.s. custody. they're living on rocks. why? why can't we do better? next.
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the president's namesake is going to talk behind closed doors to the senate intel
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committee in june. the deal we're told is that the interview will be limited to 2 to 4 hours. the scope will cover 5 to 6 topics but the big ones, the trump tower meeting and the moscow project are fair game-ish. there will be limitations on what will be asked on this as well. let's bring in asha rangappa. thank you for being here. first of all, do you like this deal? >> it makes him come in and answer questions about the two topics which i think are the two topics that he is most implicated in with regard to the mueller report. it is helpful. do i think it still places him in in a somewhat precarious situation given his previous testimony which we know now may not have been entirely accurate. >> what will get scrutiny is what do you mean you only get
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followups in the two areas they care about unless you believe what senator richard blumenthal says which means there's a lot of other things they want to talk to him about. but if you look at the mueller report those are the two points of discrepancy. but what can they hope to get out of him on either of those? >> i think they can get him on the record. first of all with the trump tower meeting, this, his testimony was about his knowledge of the extent to which the moscow tower deal continued. his knowledge of it, the length of time and from what we know from the mueller report and michael cohen in his plea deal that that went on longer than what don junior said in his testimony. so that puts him in potential exposure. now what don junior said is he's going to double down and refer to his previous testimony. i assume he's doing that under advisement of his lawyers because the only other option is to plead the fifth and that may not be something that he wants to do.
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with the trump tower meeting, the mueller report says they actually considered potential criminal charges but they weren't able to substantiate them because they couldn't prove his level of knowledge that what he was doing may have reached the level that you need for a criminal charge. he's going to have to be very careful in what he says in this testimony. with regard to what he knew. and either, again, double down on his previous testimony, plead the fifth, or obfuscate. this is still tricky for him. >> it isn't going to be as tricky as it could have been and it draws my eye to his statement about what he said after cutting this deal. do we have it? don junior is incredibly appreciative for the members that went to bat with him and he will return the favor come the 2020 campaign. he has a very long memory and loyalty is a real important thing to him. i can't think of a worse statement to have a source close
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to you put out other than thanking guys for giving you a favor. >> yeah, one thing to remember here with don junior is that unlike a lot of the other subpoenas that have been issued against members of the trump administration he was not able to be protected by claims of executive privilege. >> private citizen. >> he has nothing here so this committee could have pushed that further and the reality is that i think all things considered having him get on record again is probably better than nothing. given where we are with all the subpoenas. >> as with all the moves, this will be measured on a balance. oversight versus overreach. every time you have somebody
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come in, there had better be something there to justify the effort. otherwise you're going to hear it on the way out and from all that are overseeing and watching everything that happens. that includes you and me. thank you for being with me tonight and making sense of this for us. all right. now we have not forgotten about the humanitarian crisis at the border. you're not hearing about it but it's getting worse. a lot of people have seen it with their own eyes. there's pictures that will blow your mind and put it back into focus. what kids are doing in u.s. custody. we'll have a great debate on why nothing is happening, next. i had a heart problem. i was told to begin my aspirin regimen, and i just didn't listen. until i almost lost my life. my doctors again ordered me to take aspirin, and i do. be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. listen to the doctor. take it seriously. they have businesses to grow customers to care for lives to get home to they use stamps.com
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as most of you know, i've never argued against physical barriers on the border. i ar it's not a simple problem. how would a wall address these pictures? this is about overcapacity. this is about a humanitarian catastrophe. do you know who says that? the head of dhs and the head of cbp, the two major agencies involved with containing them. it's not about bad guys coming to kill us. it's about kids coming with their families who were afraid of killing now in these kinds of conditions. these are exclusive photos obtained by cnn. these are the conditions at the mcallen border patrol station in texas. we were there. there are young kids left to sleep outside on rocks in the dirt. why? because the people down there don't care? no. it's not that they don't care. they do care.
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they've been complaining to congress, they've been cla complaining to the white house, begging for help. they got an emergency declaration to build a fence that doesn't fix this. they have gotten nothing else. the president knows this, cbp has raised the alarm for months. but the buck stops with the president. let's start our great debate there. no arguing the facts here. we know who is down there. we know they're overrun and they can't handle it. we know they're begging for help. nothing is coming. the president could use the emergency declaration to help with emergency resourcing. why not be the hero? >> look, there is a crisis denial problem. democrats for a long time said there's no humanitarian crisis. in fact there is one. those pictures are not manufactured like the crisis they claim. there is a humanitarian crisis on our southern border.
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these facilities are overcrowded. >> so why doesn't the president do something? >> he said $4.5 billion in emergency funding is what i need for humanitarian assistance, no strings attached. no wall. where is nancy pelosi passing this through congress? we need congress to appropriate the money. >> he's not doing it. it sends a message that what he cares about are the bad guys and not helping the kids. >> not true at all. president trump has done everything in his power. but you have to solve the problem by stopping the flow of illegal immigrants toward the southern border. democrats are incentivizing people to take this dangerous journey where 1 in 3 women are raped or sexually assaulted. democrats are being irresponsible here and president is doing everything in his power to stop it. >> angela, a rebuttal? >> here's what we have to
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remember when we're making policy in this country. there's always a human face attached to the policy. if a woman is willing to risk rape, willing to take her kids out of school from whatever country she originated or the family originated there has to be a reason for that. i would submit to you the answer is not lindsey graham's new proposed legislation where he is willing to now detain migrant children not just 20 days, but up to 100 days. in april over 100,000 people were detained and 60% were families and children. the real crisis here is that humanity has been distanced from policy and anytime that happens you have a crisis. the crisis is one of consciousness. the crisis is one of morality. it's one of a human rights nature. and we can't divorce ourselves from that.
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is he willing to tell us that the rapists and drug dealers he talked about during his campaign are these families and these children? i think not. >> angela -- >> that's the real crisis here. >> you know as well as i do that several of these unaccompanied minors are actually posing as such and pose a threat to the united states. operation matador obtained 217 ms-13 members. if you have a legitimate asylum claim, you can have that adjudicated. >> lindsey graham is opposing that asylum should not be able to be sought at the border. that's the real crisis. you and i are christians. we're believers. and at some point that has to be a part of policy making. we can't continue to say our christianity, the bible we read only applies to law abiding citizens who didn't seek asylum. >> angela --
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>> we have to say there's a reason why they're coming to this border -- >> angela -- >> everyone -- >> kelly, respond. go ahead. >> every single person on this panel, every person watching agrees with the notion of asylum and refugees and being a country of compassion but i'm not hearing compassion from you for the men and women that died of opioid overdoses. enough crossed that border to kill every man woman and child in this country four times. >> hold on one second. let me just reset. >> that's a hell of a red herring. >> do drugs come across the border? the answer is yes. but if you're worried about fentanyl, you need to talk to china about that instead of playing a tariff game because the overwhelming majority come overseas. we know what the numbers are. here's the problem and there's criticism on both sides and i'll get to both of it tonight.
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here's the first. the president is asking for $4.5 billion now. but his priority has always been the fence and he's been told to worry about this first the entire time. unlike a lot of other issues, i can't be wrong on this. because my reporting has been too close to the sources that were asking for help while he was asking for the fence. he saw a win in the fence, and that's what he went for. so now you have the majority of the problem is not a fence away from being fixed. shouldn't he take some ownership of that? >> he has been unmistakable in saying this is, one, a humanitarian crisis, two, a security crisis. both of those components are true but you have to get to the root of the problem. no one on this panel can deny the numbers. these are the worst illegal immigration numbers we have seen in a decade. >> a fence is never going to fix it.
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they're coming to the ports of entry. >> where a southern barrier has been built, illegal immigrant border crossings have been by 90%. >> that assumes that if you put up a fence the people don't come anymore. >> that's right. >> what you're seeing is we are being flooded at the ports of entry. now let me bounce back. i've talked to you about this before. i see opportunity for democrats in this because of how the president prioritized it by going fence first but they haven't. they don't even go down there the way they did during the obama administration and the first wave of this that we saw. i don't understand why not. why don't the democrats say fine, you want the money, we'll give it to you but we're going to own this. >> first, i know there was a trip earlier this congress led by congressman benny thompson who is the chairman of the homeland security committee going straight to mcallen so that part is not true. >> some went but not like the last time. kathleen rice was down there too. >> but not like last time. they don't talk about it like they did last time. >> the real issue here is people
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feel torn. this is a humanitarian crisis and what can you do when part of the bargain is probably going to have to be erecting a physical barrier. one they know doesn't work. we talked about there was a physical and electric wall built that failed horribly. we need to have a conversation that remembers humanity in it, at its root, and that's impossible to have right now because we're having conversations about opioids, rapists, and drug dealers. what i'm saying is that the crisis is you cannot lose sight of humanity and i don't care -- >> you must protect american citizens too. you cannot have -- >> these babies are not ravaging american citizens. that's not true.
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come on, we know better. >> here's the thing, it's all true. you have all kinds of problems. it's just that we have overweighted the urgency of the security risk and underweighed the risks of the humanitarian disaster with the kids and now we're seeing that, we're not prepared for it. there's stuff that has to be done. that can be done. and it isn't. and as long as we argue about it, it won't get there but hopefully the sides will see the urgency and somebody will play to opportunity. angela, thank you for making the arguments from the left. kaley, appreciate having you on the show. we'll have you again. >> something special ahead, the story of a champion for change. okay? i know it's a series that's going on. people are picking different people and organizations. this was different for me. this kid changed my life. i have never met anyone before or since like matty. i have never met anyone that made me feel like some of us are
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this week we are revisiting stories of remarkable people changing our world as part of the series champions for change. my champion is no longer with us but he's still changing the world. i feel the loss of this little boy all the time. the poet and peacemaker that played a little light that shone so bright after 9/11. his message of how to deal with struggle. a message coming from a boy living with a life sentence. message and messenger made magic. here is the story of the best person i have ever interviewed. >> if we choose to make peace a reality and spread it throughout the world and get involved we will have peace. >> i never met anybody like mattie joseph thadius stepanik. we were reeling after 9/11.
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we were desperate for wisdom. then there was this kid. a kid in a wheelchair with a rare disease. a disease that claimed his three older siblings. and he is deep and he is dying and he caught fire with a message that we all needed. i was at abc news at the time and we couldn't get enough mattie. >> where does all this wisdom come from? you're an 11-year-old kid. >> from inside me. it's my heart song. thank you all for coming. >> mattie poured his heart songs as he called them into five books of poetry and peace essays selling millions of copies. his uplifting spirit attracted a worldwide following including fellow poet and president jimmy carter. he joined us on the set at abc for a chance to meet the boy poet. >> of all the people i have met in my life he was the most remarkable human being i think that has lived in my lifetime. >> i broke a very important rule as a journalist.
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i let mattie in. i couldn't help it. i loved that kid and when he was finally gone i could not handle it. >> i need a hope. a new hope. a hope that reaches for the stars. >> hello. how are you? >> i'm good, thank you. i've missed you. >> it has been 15 years. mattie's mom jenny is battling the same rare disease that claimed her kids. her days are devoted to her role as chief peace officer of the mattie stepanik foundation. nobody has ever affected me the way your son did. >> when he said god places messages in my heart. i never didn't believe him but i didn't understand nor did i understand the impact, the ripple effect that was having on people in the world. >> how important is it to you to have your message get out? >> i think it's very important
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so that we can stop fighting and talk. our war on terrorism should be won with words and not with bombs. >> on september 11th, mattie watched the events unfold and he said i don't know how to pray. i don't know what to do. and i said just start speaking and he spoke what became the poem for our world. >> in so many ways we are the same. our differences are unique treasures. we have, we are, a mosaic of gifts. >> it became an international passage for peace. it's part prayer, part poem, part plea. >> so it started with a poem. >> yes. >> became a book. >> yes. >> and now it is a platform. >> right. >> the platform is the just peace summit, a global team leaders mentorship program inspired by mattie and organized
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by the we are family foundation. >> i said to his mom, what if we find young people like mattie, teenagers, between 13 and 19 years old who literally are making the world a more peaceful place. >> how many kids have you put out there now? >> 332 global teen leaders. >> we gathered these teens in a room, like mattie they had a lot to say. >> the message that i take away most from mattie and what he embodied is the idea that peace comes to us just as much in a crippled young boy as a world leader. >> he didn't let his disease limit that. >> mattie said unity is strength. we may have differing opinions but that unity, to be able to have that positive discourse is so important. >> young lady, to the people at home, your decision to come here and be about this, what did it mean? >> i am here because i am a change maker. because we believe that we are
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the change that the world needs. so that's why i'm crying. >> these kids, this would have never happened without you and without him. >> it empowers me and gives my purpose amplification. i'm living with this sense of urgency. i want to develop sustainability for mattie's foundation so that if my stopwatch went -- done, that mattie's foundation survives. >> everybody that knows about him would be inspired to look at themselves and say i make that decision about what kind of person i'm going to be. i shape my own character and we use mattie as an inspirational example of what each one of us can do to live a better life. >> he's now been gone longer than he was here. which for me as a mom is very, very difficult. what a beautiful gift to look out in the world and see that what he left for us, his legacy, is continuing to grow.
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i want this message to be reaching billions of people. >> and if i could offer our world a wish, it would be a spirit of peace so that we can be together. >> great job with that piece. this saturday at 8:00 p.m. eastern you'll have an hour-long champions for change special and you'll get to see all the stories here on cnn. god bless mattie and his beautiful mom, jenny. they are true champions for change. he wouldn't like it that we get upset and so many bring a tear to their eyes about him. he always wanted us to laugh through our troubles together. so let's take that segue and when i bring in d. lemon we're going to look back at another remarkable life, and, boy, could he make us laugh. comedy legend tim conway. he helped turn tv shows into classics. of course the carl burnett show. we have to remember the people that make us laugh. they give us such a gift. let's do that, next.
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the world lost one of the greats today. a truly brilliant comedian. tim conway, best known for his work on "the carol burnett show," died at 85. co-stars and fans revel in his costars, fans revelled in his effortless humor. his ability to slip into many personas. here's his classic spin. this is the best, the inept dentist. >> take a firm hold of the hypodermic needle. >> right.
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>> there will be a little bit of pain and then the numbness will set in. >> the beauty of it was not only could harvey not keep it together but he was so in the moment you don't even know what was scripted and what wasn't. >> that was my favorite, one of my favorites, but that was his first day. the skit starts off and the nurse comes in and says your first patient is here, and he says my first patient, i thought we were just going to practice today.
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so he's going through the book trying to figure out what to do and then he sticks himself with the needle. hits hilarious. and harvey corman is cracking up. that was my favorite when him and harvey corman could not keep it together. one more favor, do you remember mr. turnbull? >> oh, yeah. >> mrs. wiggins. she'd walk in and always be at her desk like filing her fingernails or whatever -- there it is. how are you going to take dictation that way? she couldn't even open the door or answer the phone because she was doing her nails. genius. >> the balance of being in character and not being able to handle the fact of the skit going on, it was a real genius. that show was full of them. what a gift burnett gives us and continues to give us with her one woman show. she going to dedicate it tonight to conway. you know, his legacy will live.
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people will be able to watch these a full generation from now on youtube. >> i'm sure she's grieving -- but i'm sure she's saying ♪ i'm so glad we had this time together and before you know it comes the time we have to say so long ♪ good night, everybody, and i guess if the show is a little short she's do the second verse, but what a great show. i miss variety shows like that and laughing. they don't make that like that. >> expectations are different, peoples willingness to suspend disbelief is different. just to sit down and watch. we'll miss him, but we'll remember him. >> we will miss him. i've got the former ambassador to nato going to talk about those 120,000 troops and also john kasich, former governor of ohio is going to be onto talk about all things in the news. >> beautiful. see you in a second. >> see you soon.
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>> i like that. we've got something that's a problem but somebody who stepped up about it as well. that does not happen enough these days and when it does, we should call it out for what it is, the good bad and the ugly. next. welcome to our lounge. enjoy your stay. thanks very much. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪
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michael truncale is the new federal judge in the eastern district of texas. he once called president obama an un-american impostor. sounds like birtherism. yes, it does. you could say 2011 was a long time ago when he said it. maybe he's changed. here's his answer. i made many of my comments referred to here in my capacities as a candidate for the united states congress. as a judicial nominee it would be inappropriate for me to offer comments on any political matters. when asked specifically about calling president obama an un-american impostor he wrote, please see my response to question 3b above. i will note that it is possible however that i was merely expressing frustration of what i
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perceived was a lack of overt patriotism on behalf of president obama. possible he didn't know why he said it. listen, he didn't apologize. he defended it. he didn't say he doesn't think that bs is true anymore, just as judge he wouldn't say it out loud. and yet every single republican in the senate voted for him except one, mitt romney. the gop presidential nominee who lost to president obama in a brutal race in 2012. now, let's just see this for what it is. it is blind partisanship. why? does anyone think he'll really be a different person as a judge? haven't be learned that these men and women are exactly who they seem to be despite their claims of being impartial on the bench. yet only one republican senator will own the truth of this. the rest do what partisans do especially now, especially in the gop with this president.
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get in line, shut your mouth. before this the only judge that got dinged in a public way in this administration was this guy. remember him? matthew spencer peterson. and that only happened after a republican senator john kennedy of louisiana did this to him. >> have any of you not tried a case to verdict in a courtroom? have you ever tried a jury trial? >> i have not. >> civil? >> no. >> criminal? >> no. >> bench? >> no. >> state or federal court? >> i have not. >> that was the least of it. but, look, it's judges like him that carry more risk. that was just about basic competence. this man is a political actor who may well do the bidding of a party before the impartial word of the people. at least mitt romney got that. he said this judge s

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