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so you can focus on streaming your favorites. not finding a signal. make the best wifi even better,with xfi advantage. simple, easy, awesome. welcome to "inside politics." i'm john king. thank you for sharing your day with us. president trump is meeting with the swiss president this hour to discuss heightened tensions between the united states and iran. the commander in chief said to be alarmed, both by some iranian military moves and by the way some of his own white house deputies are reacting. plus, crime is a giant issue as joe biden tries to navigate the then and now of democratic politics. he was the proud arc tex text of a tough 1990s crime bill and says it's not it a blame for mass incars raising, but that gets an eye roll from the fact
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checkers and one of his 2020 rivals. president trump offers a bronx cheer to the latest democrat to declare for president, new york mayor bill de blasio says he's the progressive best prepared for the president's bluster. >> good thing about new yorkers is they look the same whether they are really pissed off at you or whether they like it. >> it's a tough city. a few protesters. >> a little serenade. >> back to 2020. we begin with the swiss president scheduled to be at the white house amid big warnings and debate over iran. the swiss often play middle man when the united states wants to get a message to iran or vice versa and this meeting comes after a week of white house warnings that iran appears to be up to something nefarious. today the "new york times" had a report that what so alarmed the national security time overhead imagery showing fully as bald iranian missile and the concern what they would do with the missiles led team trump to move
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a carrier strike group and ramp out confrontational rhetoric and how serious a threat the missiles are is still an unsettled question according to an official who spoke to "the times" and now members of congress trying to get a better handle on how serious this is. one complicating factor the different tone coming from the president and his top deputies, especially the national security adviser and longtime hawk john bolton. white house officials telling cnn he's skeptical of bolton's instincts and wants to quell any notion of a fights. sarah sanders yesterday like her boss said there may be different opinions at the white house but only one decider. >> the president will the make the decision that he thinks is best to keep americans safe. it's that simple. i think the president was pretty clear in what list feeling was yesterday, that there isn't division in the white house, and, again, there's only one agenda here and it's the
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president's. >> that message from the white house this morning, also an announcement from iran's ayatollah today and fred pleitgen is there. an announcement in the shake-up of iran's revolutionary guard. what is the message there? >> reporter: well, i think it's a clear message to the west that the revolutionary guard is moving on from its old generation of commanders who came of age in the iran/iraq war much more than those who came of age in the big power struggle between the united states and iran. both of them have their merits in that era. one of them is the former commander of the iranian revolutionary guard navy and he received a medal for capturing american sailors and the other one once said he would want to destroy all american bases in the middle east if there was a military confrontation with the united states. of course, a lot of that, as far as the iranians are concerned, involves those militias that. iranians have on the ground in
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many middle eastern countries. i managed to speak to a former commander of the revolutionary guard yesterday and said the americans need to understand that the iranians will use their ballistic missiles and are definitely going to use the militias in other countries in the middle east as well. meanwhile, as far as negotiations are concerned, the iranians continuing to say that there are not going to be any negotiations with the trump stayed. they said if he wanted to call the white house, they who definitely do that. they have all the numbers that they need, but they said as long as this maximum pressure campaign by the trump administration is in place as long as iranians can't sell their oil or invest here because of sanctions are the iranians will not be talking to the white house, are not going to be talking to president trump. john. >> two sides seem to be talking past each other at the moment. fred pleitgen, appreciate the live reporting. >> with me is julie hirschfeld davis with twishs, cnn's kylie atwood and military analyst admiral john kirby. admiral, let me start with you.
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shake-up in the iranian revolutionary guard. >> yeah. >> the president sitting down with the swiss. the message for that meeting at the white house would see at least in public to say that the president wants to put the emphasis on diplomacy right now. is that a fair reading? >> i think show. we don't a lot of other urgent bilateral meetings with the swiss at this moment and this one is really centered on around and they have done back channel negotiations for us in the past and provide a level of communications so that makes sense. how much decision space is trump giving himself now and he feels boxed in by some of the hawks on his team. the idea here and hopefully what he's exploring with the swiss are ways to open up some sort of dialogue. >> how to do that. to the point about boxed in. your part of the reporting on this one. as recently as last week people were calling the president complaining about bolton. he's grind if bolton has his way he would be in war in multiple places and has suggested that the situations in iran and venezuela go south he'll be able to blame bolton. this happens in a lot of
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disputes. the president is the president and it's his responsibility. the president thinks pompeo and bolton may be too far out over their skis. >> exactly. president trump is growing increasingly irritated by this perception that his national security adviser s are what they have always been are hawks which will potentially bring him closer to military confrontation with iran, but the president himself isn't totally taking that off the table here. he was asked by the initial report by the "new york times" that the white house has reviewing options to potentially send more than 120 troops to the region to take on iran if they start building up their nuclear program. he called it fake news and then he also said if it was necessary he would send even more troops, so there's a bit of mixed missaging coming out here, but the fact that he's sitting down with the swiss president today speaks volumes because it does say that he is looking for the military option to take a back
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seat and diplomacy to take a front seat. >> maybe at least to talk to somebody else who spaeks to the ir iranians. remember, secretary pompeo changed his schedule to go to baghdad to brief the iraqis. his warning is that iran is messing in the neighborhood. watch out for the shia militias and the "new york times" reporting said the senior american official said mr. pompeo was overreacting and the threat level portrayed in the intelligence was not urgent enough. the photograph was not compelling enough to convince the american public and lawmakers or foreign allies of the new iranian threat, but release other supporting inaction could compromise secret sources and methods of collecting intelligence. i covered the bush white house back in the iraq days. if there's more, here's -- this becomes the trust issue. >> absolutely. >> if there's more, you don't want to compromise sources and methods but if you say there's more and you don't share it, you're going to have a trust issue anyway and in an administration that's often called in for saying things that
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aren't true even more so. >> right. this is a problem for them, both internationally and domestically, right. you have members of congress saying what is the evidence? what are you actually looking at that leads you to go down this road that at least rhetorically the administration seems to be going down of, you know, really flexing its mulls and really indicating, at least bolton and pompeo seem to be, they are ready for a potential confrontation here. we do seem to see the president pulling that back a bit. he doesn't want to be in this position that everyone remembers, you know, the situation with george w. bush and the iraq war where, you know, there was this issue of what is the intelligence? what are the sort of pieces of evidence that we're going to be acting on if we go down the road of a military confrontation, and this president has said many times in the past that he does not want to be in that kind of position. he thinks that was a horrible miscalculation. led us into a needless war, and he's talked about not wanting american troops to be engaged in the middle east at all, and he certainly does not want to be in that position, but no question
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that the trust issue is not only in the international sphere but here at home with congress and that's going to continue to be an issue going forward if they do feel like they need to act on some of this information that they say they have. >> and for all his complaints or concerns about john bolton and maybe his secretary of state the president again is the commander in chief. he is responsible for taking steps, which he says are the right steps, that have created some of this mistrust and added tensions. he did withdraw from the nuclear deal negotiated by the obama administration and reimposed sanctions and declared the revolutionary guard as a terrorist organization and it was his decision to move the "abraham lincoln" carrier group. is this a little bit of good cop, bad cop or is there a big disconnect between what the president wants and what the tone is with his people? >> he wants to have an american first foreign policy that in some ways is isolationist and not getting involved in all of these quagmires in the middle
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east. the president campaigned on the sort of thing that the iraq war was one of the biggest blunders in u.s. foreign policy and he still has though instincts as he's sort of trying to decide how to deal with iran. he does not want to get involved in neil herland war and he wants to show he's tough and standing by israel and our allies in the region and being pulled in various directions by our allies in the middle east as well as some of the hawks within his administration that are calling on him to show the level of toughness but this is a president that really focuses on his political fortunes and is looking at 2020 and knows that voters do not necessarily want to be involved in another open-ended conflict in the middle east that has no end game and that's part of the reason why he's trying to pull back some of the hawks in his administration. >> that will be administration. the meeting is closed to reporters. it would be nice if we could get a readout and it would be nice to get in the room and hear from the president directly. among those with big questions, not just reporters or allies around the world, members of congress. the so-called gang of eight will
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get a briefing a bit later on today. more on this story in a moment.
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there are bipartisan questions today about iran, what the intelligence says about the threat posed and perhaps the promise of some clarity by later today. listen to laumpts you can tewma. you can tell there's a lot of confusion what it shows. >> congress has been briefed about it. >> i don't know whether to worry or not to worry because what i'm hearing isn't coming from the
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administration. >> whom is provoking whom? are they reacting because they are concern about what we're doing, or are we reacting because concerned what they are doing? >> when you project force into a very volatile region and you've got real tensions between iran and the saudis, we have to be careful. we need a strategy. this senate needs a briefing on the relevant intelligence. >> some answers could come later today. the so-called gang of eight. the top officials on the intelligence and armed services committee in the leadership, there's a briefing slated for them. that's unclear who from the administration is going up to the hill to read the lawmakers into the loop, but word in the newspapers that the president is worried about being pushed into a conflict by his national security adviser, well, that makes the top democrat in the house a bit happier. >> i like what i hear from the president that he has no appetite for. this one place -- one of the places that i agree with the president is that both of us in our opposition to the war in iraq and i hope that that same attitude will prevail with the
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president of the united states, even though some of his supporters are rattling sabers. >> joining us is jackie kucinich with "the daily baste" and michael warren. it cannot be overstated the distrust, full. part of that has nothing to do with the trump administration. that's iraq war hangover, but then it's exacerbated and magnified by the fact that whether it's the president or some people around him, not as much in these kind of questions of wand and peace, and say a lot of things not supported by the facts so people are doubting them. >> this is one of the issues with eroding faith in intelligence which the administration has undertaken, you know, for the last two years. the other thing, i just want to -- i guess i'm pointing out the observe here. the president brought on john bolton. what did he think was going to happen in terms of iran? the man has written many op-eds calling for regime change. has called for bombing iran, so
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this -- the fact that he feels like he's being pushed in this direction, maybe you should have done a google search because this is what john bolton is all about. >> in many ways that's why john bolton was brought on. if you recall, it was sort of concurrent with his decision to withdraw from the iran deal. >> right. >> and to sort of take a more aggressive posture on that than some of his former advisers are been counseling him to take, and he wanted to go to aggressive direction so when we talk about the good gone, bad cop, like on some issues, trump is his own good and bad cop depending on the day and depending on the political calculation depending on what the public response is. i think nancy pelosi is right that he's sort of instinctually more opposed to a military confrontation on something like that, but he has been pushed and pulled and there's very little reservoir if not no reservoir of trust for him and his top aides on capitol hill. >> and i think that also applies for members of his own party.
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>> correct. >> particularly hawks on iran who sort of see -- saw the john bolton appointment of being a good sign for them and their interests who are now sort of frustrated where, you know, sort of a lack of action that they see from the president, and i think that all stems from the fact that besides this sort of aversion to foreign intervention, the president doesn't really have a strong core on a lot of these foreign policy issues, and so he's being pushed and pulled by members of congress as well. >> and adding to the confusion is when you get this conflicting information from members of congress that any administration takes trump out of it because that causes reaction. every administration should brief congress. get up there and give them a full briefing. you heard senator coons say the whole senate should get a briefing. the senate intelligence committee was briefed last week. members who have security clearances can pick up the phone and ask for information. among those senator angus king,
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caucuses with the democrats, he says, yes, there's alarming intelligence but he adds this. >> i don't think it's faulty intel. i think the intel may be accurate but unanswered question is are they reacting to our assertions of action in the middle east, or are we reacting to them? think the president is absolutely right, according to the reporting that we've heard this morning to slow this thing down and express a little restraint on some of thinks advisers who seem to be getting us into a position where something pretty awful could happen. >> yeah. there's a difference between good cop and bad cop when you're dealing with a foreign power versus when you're dealing with congress. congress wants a consistent message from the administration. they have been hearing different things from different parts of the intelligence apparatus, people who are close to the president, and they are not yet convinced that this is as dire as some of the people within the president's orbit are describing it, and i think that's part of
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the reason why you're having trouble sort of getting a collective voice from congress in support of the administration, even on issues of war and peace because they are not hearing a specific message from the administration that's accident and clear. they are hearing one thing from john bolton and the president saying i have to temper my own national security adviser, and it's not clear from the administration where things stand, and i think that's the challenge for congress right now. >> and then the reporting about how there's a divide or debate or at least different voices from the administration that stirs even more confusion because they haven't shared at least pubically much of this intelligence, at least with the american public, and you get marco rubio, not always a fan of this president, disagrees with him on a lot of northern policy issues, saying this morning it's stunning how to just get back at bolton and others, a small group of people are willing to harm our national security interests by giving the media overblown or untrue information that harm our national security and then the stories about dissension in the ranks, if you will, cause more confusion in the senator's view. >> right. it is not unusual in any administration to have big
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divides inside the white house, inside the administration about what to do in a situation like this uncertain complicated, you know, conflict with a long history. the relationship between the united states and iran, not to mention the whole situation in the middle east. there's lots of different points of view. the unusual thing is to see them play out this pubically. >> yes. >> and i think what that tells you is how deep the divides are and how -- the degree to which there's a lack of consensus on what the plan should be, and if you just look at what the president has said and what john bolton have said in the last few days, the president is salking about he wants to talk with ran. john bolton has been in favor of regime change in iran so which is it? if you're a member of congress, again, looking for consistent message on this. what's the plan here hand what's the ultimate objective? there isn't an agreement on that, and for a lawmaker who may have to either be asked to approve something or vote on something related to this, that's a very uncomfortable place to be. >> and perhaps by the end of the
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we're getting a fresh look at how the democratic party is trying to take a different approach to crime and how changing the rhetoric to many means the party should also change the voices. eight democrats writing essays on how to move the party forward. for the 2019 report for the brennan center of justice, fair housing, addiction treatment and ending the war on drugs and closing for-profit prisons. it's a remarkably different tone from the same party that passed the crime bill a quarter century ago. however, joe biden, current democratic front-runner, back then a key architect of that bill insists his work in the '90s misunderstood. >> this idea that the crime bill generated mass incarceration. it did not generate mass incarceration. i made sure there was a setup in that law that said there were no more mandatories except two that i had to accept. the mass incarceration occurred by the states setting mandatory
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sentences. what happened was if you go back and look, the black caucus supported the bill. gths. >> senator kamala harris challenging the former vice president wednesday. >> well, i have a great deal of respect for vice president joe biden but i disagree with him that. crime bill -- that 1994 crime bill, is -- it did contribute to mass incarceration in our country. it encouraged and was the first time that we had a federal three strikes law. it funded the building of more prisons in the states, and so i -- i disagree sadly. >> and interesting early flashpoint. to the vice president's point back in the day, yes, the black caucus did support the legislation and so did a lot of mayors including rudy giuliani saying the japanese should stay
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firm and hang in there. to the point about incarceration, the great factor at "the washington post" says there's many factors that contributed but even bill clinton has acknowledged this. if biden is going to lay claim to the biden crime bill he needs to take ownership of some of its flaws and the vice president doesn't want to do that. >> it will be more pronounced when he's standing next to his rivals at a debate and having to answer to this. right now at the rallies no one is coming back at him or question what he's saying and defend it and that's tough with these stats out there. inside california kamala harris has a lot of criticism for her record as a prosecutor. i've talked to advocates out there who say she didn't really do much herself to help with that in california. now, it's up for debate, of course, but i think both of them have a little bit of baggage there. >> it's a potentially complicated issue. there are ebbs and flows, i remember back in the '90s when the bill passed and there was demand all around to do -- to do
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something because of the crack epidemic and it's striking that joe biden has to navigate the then and now of the democratic party and the then and now of his career, crime being one of them. this is bill clinton's democratic platform in 1996 on the issue of the crime. today's democratic party believes the first responsibility of government is law and order and talks about putting 100,000 more cops on the street, wage an aggressive war on drug. even in hillary clinton's platform the party was beginning to move this way. this is still posted the 2016 platform, democrats are committed to reforming the injustices and ending mass incarceration, and this was already happening. the question is how does joe biden navigate you were part of what -- back then, people loved it then, they don't now. how do you explain it? >> i think this is just a really hard thing for him to sort of thread, that needle to thread because he's been around for a very long time, and all those sort of ebbs and flows, the way parties change on issues, 1994, that's also when republicans
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were backing nafta and now look as where they have changed on that. he's been around for all of those things, and this sort of goes to a weakness that's not reflected in his poll numbers right now which is he those answer a lot of these questions while the party has been changing. >> or can he turn the weakness into a strength by saying, look, i've evolved and learned lessons. sure. >> but he's not saying that. >> he's talking about what the congressional black caucus supported back in 1984. >> sounds like bob dole, a process senate argument, that's the argument, blame it on the process. >> that's right. >> but it's part of the big generational, seth moulton, a veteran, was quoted today and said isn't joe biden the foreign policy candidate? and he said i think it's time for the generation who went to iraq and afghanistan to replace the generation that sent us there. pretty clear what he's saying. >> this is not the only issue
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that biden has to grapple with this. you can almost hear in his answer about the crime bill that you just played how he is trying to grapple with how the debate has changed. the center of this debate on what to do about crime in america is such -- in such a different place now than it was then and i think he's right. where the crime bill came out in 1994 was the center. where the debate was over the iraq war. it's a very different debate than we would have today on that issue, but that's not the debate he was engaging in there, so he's trying to reconcile that, but i think until he comes up with some answers that acknowledge that, you know, sort of evolution and where he has gone on the evolution as well, it's going to be difficult. it's not going to be difficult to go out and say the crime bill didn't do this. it wasn't the seen. >> why is it so hard for politicians to say we did the best we could at the time. we had to make compromises. they weren't all perfect and we did the best we could and with 20 years of hindsight wasn't great and we need to fix it. >> joe biden has a long history
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of sort of not apologizing, whether it's for the way he dealt with various people and his tactile approach to politics and touching people. he hasn't fully a djite jized for a lot of those different things and when you talk about his record he's much more of an explainer than an apologizer, and i think that's part of what we've seen in the past with him and that's where it sounds like he'll continue to go. he should not underestimate the power of this issue. we saw hillary clinton struggle in 2016 over the super predator comment that she made back during the crime bill age, and i think that's something that he has to be aware of that that could have an impact as well. >> i don't think the problem is that he's explaining it but he's trying to justify it. i think that's very different, explaining why how it was then and now it's a little defensive. he's coming from a place of weakness there. >> right. he's trying to defend that instead of saying times change, we all learn and move on. you make a great point about the last cane. days after breaking his hip former president jimmy carter
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topping our political radar today, jimmy carter is home from the hospital after hip replacement surgery. the 94-year-old former president fell and broke his hip monday while leaving his house to go turkey hunter. the carter center says he'll undergo physical therapy as part of he plans to teach sunday school this weekend. good for him. former first lady roslyn carter hospitalized overnight after feeling faint but returned home this morning with her husband. two hours from now president trump will lay out the details of his new immigration reform plan. the proposal crafted in large
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part by son-in-law jared kushner will promote border security and merit-based system for those who come into united states. a top gop source telling cnn there remain divisions over daca and other issues that would be needed to get democratic support and how and where the russians infiltrated the election systems of two florida counties. >> the fbi is still not being very forthcoming with the members of congress from the florida delegation who they gave this briefing to. there's a lot of frustration. the florida delegation saying that they believe that this is going to undermine the faith of voters in the election system, in the election results if the fbi doesn't change the way they are doing this. we did learn during this briefing that the fbi told these counties, these florida counties, that there were some problems back in 2016. at least two of them did come forward and said that they noticed some suspicious
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activity, so that's where this information comes from. again, the underlying information is still being kept under wraps by the fbi. we still don't know. these lawmakers still can't say pubically which counties were affected and so now they are going to try to push for some legislation to try to force the fbi to try to be more forthcoming about that. >> love to know more. appreciate the reporting. when we come back, the president's hometown mayor wants to run for president. did you know you can save money by using dish soap to clean grease on more than dishes? using multiple cleaners on grease can be expensive, and sometimes ineffective. for better value, tackle grease with dawn ultra. dawn is for more than just dishes. it provides 3x more grease cleaning power per drop, which cuts through tough kitchen messes, pre-treats laundry stains, and even tackles grease build-up on car rims. tackle tough greasy messes around your home, and save money with dawn ultra. brand power. helping you better.
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the new york city mayor bill de blasio declared his candidacy for president and the 23rd democratic to join the 2020 fray says his firsthand knowledge of sprump what se president trump is what sets him apart from the pack. >> doesn't matter whether you live in a city or rural area or big state, mall state or your ethnicity, people nor every part of this country feel stuck or like they are going backwards. the rich got richer. i'm a new yorker. i've known trump is a bully for a long time. this is not news to me or anyone else here, and i know how to take him on. don't back down in the face of a bully. confront him. take him on. >> now the mayor is a long shot to say the least, burr he did get the president's instant attention. this tweet, quote, the dems are
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getting another beauty to join their group, bill deblasio of new york city considered the worst mayor in the united states will be supposedly making an announcement for president. he's a joke and if he like high taxes and crime he's your man. nyc hates him him. that's the president's tabling. laughter at the table. the president and mayor do not see eye toee but the new york tabloid views the new york mayor's candidacy as a joke. that's not nice. it's his first day. i'll say this as we start the conversation. nobody has had a clue. >> very true. >> it's also clear this a number of people who have very, very long odds have decided it's not -- it's not a losing proposition anymore just to run to raise your national profile. is there a lane for mayor bill de blasio? >> the fact that president trump won in 2016 is part of the reason that we have such a big field on the democratic side. people say if trump can do it
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and come out of no fwhr a presidential election why can't i, and that's what we're seeing even from bill de blasio. he does have a strong progressive record of getting results in new york, everything from $15 minimum wage to health care for everyone and pre-k for free for a lot of young families but at the same time as trump said in his tweet there are a number of reasons why new yorkers and other americans don't think that he's done a great job because there's a big homelessness challenge in new york city, even though the crime rate is low, it's still a challenge for him to be able toe defend his record on everything from the subway to making sure that inequality is not out of control in that city so he does face long odds in part because of his record but trump faced long odds because he didn't have a background in politics and he won. >> trying to sell himself i
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think i can travel the country and make the case that i can help you. >> working americans deserve better, and i know we can do it because i've done it here in the largest, toughest city in this country. we're putting money back in the hands of working people. we're doing guaranteed healthcare for all new yorkers, including mental healthcare, paid sick leave, pre-ck for all. things that change people's lives for better. >> challenges, again, if you're a republican or conservative, you don't agree with any of that, but if you're a progressive he fits in with where the party is as progressive. the question is with 23 others, it's an elbow thing. right? >> unlike some of the other candidates in the race who are talking about a lot of the same things or talking about, you know, tackling income inequality and talking about paid leave and, you know, better access to education and he canary, he's actually done some of those things in new york city so he can point to an actual record in a way that some members of
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congress can't necessarily do. you know, elizabeth warren has lots of plans, but she can't say, you know, here, look at this microcosm of how this would play out and what i did. i think the challenge for him, is you know, his popularity is still very, very low in new york city. president trump's popularity is very low as well so that wouldn't necessarily hold him black. >> to that point does it matter. quinnipiac asked new york city voters said do you want your mayor to run for president, 76% said no. 18% yes. among democrats, 73% said no. if you look at the national polls or this is a new hampshire poll, democratic primacy voters in the first primary state, joe biden 36 and bernie sanders 18 and bill de blasio 0. nobody votes for nine months. a lot of people haven't caught traction. i rule nothing out in the age of trump but what does he have to do? >> it suggests that he looked at what pete buttigieg did and was able to come from nothing, from
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essentially zero to where he is in these polls. you have to think that de blasio looked at that field and says i'm just as progressive, more like a governor than a mayor given the size of new york. why can't i throw my hat in the ring, and i think he's not wrong in that sense. i do think it's also interesting that his focus on i'm going to be the guy to go against trump. that's something we haven't heard recently from new entrants into the race. i thought that just struck me -- >> probably bounce off the fact that a lot of democrats want someone who can go up against trump. it's a good gimmick. we'll see if he can fill it out. >> we'll see if he gets on the debate stage. >> erin burnett investigates the trump fally business, a cnn special report tomorrow night at 9:00 eastern right here on cnn. up next for us, kirsten gillibrand sees an opportunity to launch what she calls a movement. will it help to lift so far what's been a struggling campaign? 4-in-1 technology aded unleash a foolproof clean in one step.
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today senator kirsten gillibrand making her first campaign trip to georgia to protest the state's so-called heartbeat law which bans abortions after a fetal heartbeat can be detected, usually around six weeks. georgia, one of many states, moving now to add more abortion estrikeses. alabama's governor, for example, just yesterday signed a near total ban and last night missouri's republican-led senate passed a bill that would ban abortions after eight weeks of president and gillibrand said to challenge the state by state restrictions is by a national movement and she hopes, hopes
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that women see her presidential campaign as that vehicle. >> there is an all-out assault and attack by the republican party across this nation to undermine women's basic reproductive rights, basic civil rights, basic human rights with the intention and make no mistakes of overturning "roe v. wade," so i am here to listen to you, to hear your stories, to lift them up, and then i will help you lead this movement all across the country to restore women's basic constitutional rights. >> thank you. >> want to be clear, she believes in this anyway and she's running for president and thinks she can turn this to her advantage. how does that work? >> she needs something, right, because her campaign reary hasn't gotten a whole lost traction. you're right. this is something she's talked about for a while. something that she has stood up for and maybe this will be it to, you know, really stand out in a way that she hasn't been able to. she's one of the few senators
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who had a is running who hasn't met the dnc threshold for the debate yet. we're getting close. it's at the end of june so there's time but something needs to get her traction, so she's grabbing on to this. >> there's a history of presidential candidates grabbing on to sort of a single issue, maybe one that isn't, you know, the number one issue of economy or something like that. ronald reagan grabbed on to the panama canal issue back in the late '70s which helped to propel him into the 1980 nomination. i think the difference here is that other democrats are talking about this as well. >> true. >> this is a major issue right now, and there's no daylight between the democratic candidates. they are all adopting her position. i think it's going to be a difficult, not impossible, but difficult task to make this catapult her. >> part of her bet, and she's not the only one, this is the most diverse field in history for the democrats, part of her bet is that women were so important to the democrats in the 2018 mid terms as a female senator she might get an extra
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look, if you will. >> that's clearly part of the calculus here if she is going to try to make this a single issue or marquee issue of her campaign, the power of, you know, independent women, women across the board, certainly democratic women in the primary for someone who is trying to break out of the pack which cannot be underestimated so if you want to go there's an issue with a lot of resonance for women and it's interesting to watch the democrats sort of outdo themselves on how much in the same place there are as thee is on this choice issue as we see states around the country really take pretty drastic action to try to limit access to abortion, you know. you have people saying, that you know, they will introduce national legislation. she's saying she would only pick supreme court justices that would pledge to uphold "roe v. wade," but they are all sort of with the same message which is we must safeguard "roe v. wade" and that's going to be the position of the democratic party. there's real know question that it's going to be so it's a question of whether this as an
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issue hoar her helps her break through the pack. >> i've been struck by a silence from national republicans. earlier this year republicans were aggressive in talking about late-term abortion. seems like right now they do want want to be part of this broader discussion over alabama and georgia. >> thanks for joining us. see you back here tomorrow i hope. busy news day. brianna keilar starts right now. >> i'm brianna keilar live from cnn's washington headquarters. under way right now, there are hawks flying around the west wing, and the president is growing irritated for beating the war drums. what americans will learn about the president's finances who is paying him and who is not and plus, want a pardon? there's a checklist for getting one and praising this president is high on it, and the odd moment when a former bush official briefed republicans in congress on what two psychiatrists told him about the
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