how do he and his family do business? join us tomorrow night for a cnn special report, the trump family business, 9:00 p.m. eastern only here on cnn. thanks for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in the situation room. erin burnett outfront starts right now. >> outfront next, president trump reveals he made at least $434 million last year but there is so much more we do not know about the president's finances. why? what could he be hiding? plus breaking news? new details about michael flynn's cooperation with mueller. who left flynn a voice mail about his cooperation with the special counsel? and the united states claims to have new evidence of iran's aggression tonight. where is the proof? is this starting to look too much like iraq? let's go outfront. and good evening. i'm erin burnett. outfront tonight trump cashes in the president releasing his annual financial disclosure report giving a glimpse into the

president's financing but just a glimpse. it's far from a full picture tonight. what we learned and see the president earned had $34 million last year. what we don't learn is who paid him the money and to whom he bowes money. but one highlight in the report is this. the trump international hotel in washington, d.c. made $40.8 million last year. that's more than last year. and it's money powered by lobbyists and diplomats and business people. reportedly from countries including saudi arabia, bahrain, kuwait animalsia. trump minimuming money at the hole thanks in no small part to his presidency. he admitted it under oath in a deposition when only a candidate in the white house. he talks about the rise in the polls was helping that hotel specifically. >> we've been seen a lot of people. i think people like that. so i think it's had -- i think it will be great for the building in question. >> well it's been great for that

building. it's a building trump visits frequently as does his staff. a building trump blatantly promoted to the world. >> i have a great, great -- the probably the best piece of land in washington, one of the great pieces of the old post office. and i'm very proud of i buildin. we built it into a hotel it's on pennsylvania avenue between the capitol building and the white house, smack in the middle. >> so who are the players paying up to get close to team trump? well, we don't know. and that's a problem. so the disclosure form we just got is 88 pages. only 88 pages. only, you say? yes, i reply. compare to trump's taxes. these are two of the only images we have of trump's returns. we show them. this is from october of 2015. you know, i think we can all grow that that is a whole heck of a lot more than 88 pages.

and that is why americans still need to see the president's tax returns. tomorrow is the deadline for the trump administration to turn over 6 years of tax returns to congress. and tonight it seems clear the administration will defy yet another subpoena. pamela brown is outfront live outside the white house. pamela, you know these 88 panls, if i show the other stacks it would cover both of us across the screen. of just one year of tax returns to compare. does the president really think releasing this financial disclosure will stop the calls for his taxes? >> you know, he is likely hoping so, erin. he has repeatedly said that he believes financial disclosures are superior to tax returns and it appears tonight, erin, the treasury department isn't budging on handing over the tax returns as of now. the president declined to answer questions today from the press. but there is no indication that these mandated disclosure forms out today will do anything to quell the calls for the president's tax returns amid the subpoena deadline tomorrow night from house democrat for six

years of the president's tax returns. the disclosure documents today saying that the president as you pointed out made $479 million last year do not reveal as much about finances as a tax return. first of all it just has ranges. tax returns as you know, though, in comparison includes granular details about income and asset valuations, along with other information. so there is a difference there. but the fresh disclosures -- the treasury secretary steve mnuchin indicated yesterday actually, erin, that he would likely resist the orders from the democrat saying i think you can guess basically how the treasury department will respond and personal lawyers for the president have argued that congress is overreaching in the request and hasn't shone a the legislative purpose for asking for this six years of tax returns. but as you know, a judge expressed skepticism of the argument earlier saying congress doesn't necessarily need an explicit legislative purpose, erin. >> pamela, thank you very much.

outfront now democratic congressman dan killdy sitting on the ways and means committee. congressman you've seen the disclosure form, the 88 pages. what did you learn from it? >> well, i haven't had a chance to see hem thoroughly but timothy point a picture but not anything close to a complete picture of the president's finances. and the specific question, it clearly does not answer the specific question we look at is whether or not the irs properly enforces tax law on the president of the united states. we can't glean from these records anything that question. so that's the purpose that we have sought for which with we sought the returns and continue to press. >> so i want play something for you, congressman, the president has said about this specific form, the public financial disclosure report in the past. here he is. >> people don't understand tax returns. now, i did do a filing of over

100 pages. you get far more than that from a tax return. >> far more than that than you could ever get from a tax return. obviously just looking at the raw information, 88 pages versus a thousand probably at least in the one year we showed a picture of. what do you say to him? >> well, the president will say anything to defuse any criticism or deflect us from looking behind the curtain. it just doesn't make any sense what he says. we are looking specifically as whether or not he is somehow evading tax law or whether the irs is not properly enforcing law maybe as a result of his direction. >> yeah. >> but it's a bit condescending for the president to say we wouldn't be able to understand the tax returns? let me assure you, mr. president, we will figure it out. >> so, you know, i mentioned congressman in the lead in to you, the trump international hotel in washington. we actually went online tonight to check in if we wanted to kmek

kplek in and book a hotel room. one available at $695 online compared to the four seasons in washington which was 500. is the president benefitting from his office? or is his hotel that much better than the four seasons? >> well i've never been in either one so i can't answer that question with any expertise. but i will say the president seems to seek to benefit himself in every way possible. this has been the entire story of his career, the fact that he continues to substantially control his business enterprises while serving as president of the united states is a precedent that's just unbelievable that has been broken and doesn't create more outrage. but i think we have to assume that the president will do whatever he can, using every resource including public resources to benefit himself. this has been his history. >> so your kmarm obviously richard neil as subpoenaed six years of tax returns of the preponderate. referring to the fact that you could figure out if you got them

and tomorrow night is the deadline for the treasury secretary to comply. he made it clear he is going to defy. >> we will comply with the timing. you can pretty much guess how we are going to but i haven't made a decision. >> do you expect you're getting anything from him? >> well, i think ultimately we will. whether or not they want to comply with the law is a decision that they obviously are making. i disagree with the decision that they're making. i think it's a terrible precedent that they would contradict plain letter law that says they are obligated to deliver the returns. it's not up to them to decide when congress is acting on a legitimate public interest. they don't get to dictate to us the subject matter of our work. >> how long do you think it will take to get them. >> i think it will be up to a court to make that determination ultimately. but i've talked to the chairman about this. he is not turning away on this. we are going to pursue in using every tool available to us. i don't think simply denying the

request is going to be enough. they have to answer to a court ultimately. >> thank you very much. i appreciate your time, kmtz. >> thank you. >> and outfront now russ buettner, investigative reporter for "the new york times" who has done a lot of reporting and seen more of the president's taxes than anyone else in your investigations. you've been through this. what stands out to you. >> what stands out was that it wasn't a great year for the president. his overall revenues just revenues not profits were down about 4%. >> right. >> some of the properties had substantial declines. golf courses overall seem kind of flat. there are a couple of places where he had substantial income coming in that is just sort of disappeared, some of the hotels that have gone away. >> it seems the trump international hoe fell in washington which i highlighted for a reason because it plays -- if you want to be seen and noticed by the administration it's the place you go. that's the hotel that stands out as -- that's the strong performer. >> well it's remarkable, up about 1% staying tough at about

$40 million. but that's not a big jump for someone who devoted so much attention to it and for the republican party having sent lobbyists -- or lobbyists wanting to be there and curry favor going there. it's not a huge jump but 1% is a substantial amount of money. >> what do you think the room rate i asked the congressman about. $695. if you book it online versus 50 oh at the four seasons which is obviously an incredibly nice hotel in washington, d.c. there a trump premium? >> it's hard to say. i don't know the rates on these things. it doesn't seem to be they are outperforming competitors very much. our reporters spoke is to industry analysts saying their hotels in chicago and hawaii are underperforming. so if it's in the mix in washington, d.c. the it's not clear. >> you have the lobbyists and diplomats and a whole another set of interests perhaps than people saying in other hotels. you were part of a team that obviously reported the most information we have seen on the president's taxes thus far.

tell -- explain why what we got today is enough enough. >> well, again it's just revenue. you can tell his company brought in about $$435 million. but you don't know whether his expenses are $700 million a year which means he is in dope trouble orp $300 oh million dollars which means he is okay. you can't tell also whether or not he is paying taxes. the president throughout his business career has found a way to lose enough money to not pay taxes. >> and you also can't tell whether the trump international hotel or golf club who is paying all the millions of dollars? you don't know whether it's some wealth individual order oligarch, you have no idea. >> that's right. you can't tell anything about where the money is actually coming from here. he could have sources of income not on this that would be funneled into the entities that you might see on a tax return. >> and taxes could show that which is important as why we need those. thank you so much. i appreciate it. we'll have more on the topic tomorrow in my new documentary a cnn special report on the trump family business debuting

tomorrow at 9:00 eastern. next mayor bill de blasio says he is running for president 37 and wow does president trump love it. this is the reception that de blasio meantime is getting from his hometown. >> liar. liar. >> why is he running in that field of 23? plus trump roles out the new immigration plant. peen a top republican says it's never going to become law. one of the people who wrote it outfront. and breaking news, new documents released show the former national security michael flynn heard campaign officials talking about wickky leaks. what does this prove?

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the larger question? do we really need 23 exactic candidates out there on the list? outfront now national air force correspondent for the antagonist joan walsh and dnc dmungss directorer the maria cardona. we the american people have what, 23. then you've got -- then trump 25. we have a lot of people running for president. >> we do. >> okay so why is bill de blasio running what is the path to victory. >> it doesn't exist. i'm sorry if i'm the first to tell him that. but it doesn't exist. i give mayor de blasio a lot of credit for the prek initiate of. it's terrific and should be nationwide. there is the credit. i don't know what he is doing. our housing authority is a mess. we still have a lot of problems. he seems to be bored with his job, honestly. and there is really no -- there is no path for him. i think he wants to be a movement builder. but bernie is out there. we have plenty of candidates on

the left. there is just not lane for him. and sad as it may be we never elect add mayor president. >> so maria, i showed the poll, right. he has a net negative favor ability rating according to a recent poll. and there is one person superthrilled he is jumping in the race. that is the president. he just spent 36 seconds -- assuming he did it in one take on his time on air force one to put out a video on the mayor. here a chip. >> i just heard the worst mayor in the history of new york city and without question the worst mayor in the united states is now running for president. it will never happen. it would be better off if you got back to new york city and did your job with the little time you have left. >> look, i couldn't even run at all i spent so much time maria. okay. how much does it matter he is not liked in new york? there are a lot of people in the field that nobody heard of outside the small zone, right.

and all looking for the broader recognition. >> right, right. and that's true. what's interesting is that if you look at trump bashing the o de blasio for not being liked in new york which is what he did in one of his tweets, you know, is donald trump liked in new york? >> no. >> i don't think so. and you know the other thing that it's also rich for donald trump to say that de blasio will never be president when that's what so many said about donald trump when donald trump announced. now that's not to say i think it's going to be easy for de blasio or that he has a path. i agree with joan. i don't think he has one. but, look, it's so early, it's still wide open. conventional wisdom is out the window. if people want to look into a crystal ball, it doesn't exist. we have seen this already, right? what we prognosticate today could very well happen could well not happen. >> i mean it's amazing to me -- and it's one of my biggest

frustration was our country is that part of the reason nobody works together or does anything is because people are always running for office. and joan this is the 23rd third democrat in the race. the field could get bigger. the georgia gubernatorial stacey abrahams everyone remembers her. here is what she said today. >> i'm watching to see what happens. i do believe i can enter the conversation as late as the fall and still have a real chance to win. >> okay four years ago donald trump wasn't even in the race. let's remember in june. now everyone says it's -- there is already 23 people in. it's fo late to announce. i mean is she right you could get in that late? do we just have too many people for people to learn who they are. >> it's a wonderful country. everybody has the right to run. i love stacey abrahams. i covered her campaign. i'm second to no one in my configuration for her. i would rather she not run. i think -- i think she would have made a great senator. i think she will make an

excellent govern. i think she should run again in three years. she has a terrific voter organization she founded, erin. i would love to see her continue that work and give brian kemp another run. >> maria here is one of the questions i have. a lot of the 23 people, some of them may be running just to get experience or may be running to get broader name recognition. other career ambitions some of them running because they can win. a lot of them are probably running because they tlink who knows what really is going to happen with joe biden. right he comes and took the oxygen out of the room? is it lasting? the house minority leader kevin mccarthy said something interesting about joe biden today. here zblees do you agree with the president's time voo the vice president biden lyn the democratic nominee. >> no i think biden no disrespect is the jeb bush of this cycle. >> maria? >> this is what is so great about what we're about to see in our primary process, erin. we don't know. it could be but it could also be

that he ends up -- he joe biden ends up being the nominee. look, here is what i'll say. what everyone should understand is that it could be frustrating to many democrats we have 23, possibly 24, sta which abrahams jumps in. but as soon as that happens, as soon as the debates start and fund raising becomes a real issue this field will start to winnow itself down pretty quickly. because if -- if americans see that you are in this either for vanity or for your own profile development hear not liking that. your poll up ins are not going up. your infrastructure is going to be non-existent and you're not going to be able to have a presidential campaign. and so that's why i think that president people need to be focused on the candidates who are raising grass roots money, who have an infrastructure in all the states, who will have ballot access, another important thing. >> yes. >> there are a lot of factor nas go into a real campaign. >> joan, do you think a lot of people running are betting that there is just an unknown with

joe biden as to whether he is jeb bush? as to whether -- who knows? everyone is in love with him now on the democratic side. but then therm things they didn't like. he lass lost a lot of times before. they go maybe there's a reason for that. things can change. >> i will say though, erin, jeb bush was topping out much lower. process he barely led the field. in 2015 he was ahead. >> joe biden is stronger. >> so much stronger than jeb bush ever was. doesn't mean he can't fall. but the comparison is not apt. >> that's a very good point. thank you both very much. and next a top executive at wal-mart warning trump's trade war will lead to higher prices. that's the chief financial officer of wal-mart, the biggest retailer in the country. but the president's white house counsel of economic advisers chairman says he is wrong. a judge ordering release of a voice mail to michael flynn from someone connected to team trump about his cooperation with bob

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this -- this so far on capitol hill, daca obviously is one of the biggest issues out there in immigration. the plan doesn't appear to touch that. so democrats, you know, yesterday said merkley said no way, not even think bag it. when republican senator lindsey graham was asked about the difference between his new immigration plan and yours, he said and i quote senator graham, the white house's plan is not designed to become law. in, lindsey's law is designed to become law. is he right? your plan is not designed to become law? >> no, that's incorrect. in fact we have a whole bill and lots of details that will be will coming out shortly. the fact is what we have done is taken what we think are the things we all ought to agree about. looked at best practices around the world. copied them. changed something from the canadian system or the australian system or the new zealand stedman or the japanese system to better fit the u.s. economy but ended up with a bill that you know has many similarities to the 2013 bill

that was supported by elizabeth warren and bernie sanders and amy klobuchar. really i know there are a lot of pillars for immigration reform. but this one i think is really transformational in a positive way. in particular by bringing high skilled people into the country. you know, the academic literature suggests that drives up wages for lower skilled people. this is something that really progressives ought to support and embrace. >> you're telling me more details are come out .but is it true daca is not in it? have you talked to democrats even willing to consider a discussion about a dbt the immigration plan that doesn't include it. >> we started with two pillars. there is the pillar of border security which i know has lots of bipartisan support at times. but then the pail ar that i most worked on which is to study the best merit based systems around the world and to create a best in class proposal for the u.s. and you know our estimate at cea which is not that controversial is is that we adopt the bill that dow increase gdp growth by

about a couple of tenths. >> have you talked to a democrat who is willing to talk to you about a bill. >> so, you know i'm the economist not ledge air forffai person. but i can presented say i presented this for the senator at their lunch and we got good feedback pch yesterday i met with republican house enemies to go over the details. but i'm sure you're right in the end if you look at the details of this it's a bill that will increase gdp, increase tax revenue by maybe half a trillion dollars over ten years because we bring in higher skilled people and drive up wages for low skilled people but i want to make one last point. which is if pure a kid in kenya right now orp any country malaysia and you want to go to the u.s. then unless you have a family member here you're out of luck. so whaept to do is create a system where you can go online and you can type in stuff about yourself and then figure out what you need to do to qualify for a visa in the u.s. so i think it makes us the land of opportunity again. >> on that, though the president says that the plan requires

future immigrants learn english and pass a civics exam. you have to speak english. now, that may surprise some people but under the current current system immigrants are already required to pass a flarlization test which requires a civics test and english test how is your plan different than what we have. >> well, i think that the civics test part is something they're moving to the front of the process. and the -- the english language cite yan is something the academic literaturing what are immigrant you're talking about the immigrants flew the country speak the language do better and more successful and the 2013 plan supported by all the democrats i mentioned had an english language test as well. >> you have it at the beginning of the process. >> the beginning of the process that's pair. >> as opposed to at the end when you are at the natural gas station. >> i mean, that test too but also the proposal also this proposal i think you should think of as the beginning of a process. it's a lot of stuff that should gather support from all people who study it and look at the literature and think how it will

affect the lives of ordinary american. >> i want to ask you about tariffs. today wal-mart chief financial officer said higher tariffs could mean higher prices at wal-mart. and he said here is the summary increased tariffs led to increased prices we believe for our customers. obviously wal-mart is the biggest retailer in the united states. according to the conservative leaning tax foundation, the tariffs imposed by your administration so far will eliminate nearly 162,000 full-time equivalent jobs. any say it's essentially $72 billion worth of new taxes on americans. that is a big deal. do you really support these tariffs? >> right, well i support the process which is trying to move china to the table to get a trade deal that's fair for american firms and ends a lot of practices that involved intellectual property theft and so on and forced technology transfer that you know we have looked at estimates that suggest that 1 to 3% of gdp is being sucked out of the u.s. because of the practices. there is a lot of room for improvement in this space.

and as far as the price effect, don't forget that if we are buying something from a chinese firm that we put a tariff on, then if you don't want to buy from china then you could buy it from a u.s. firm or from a firm from many other countries. if you look at what's happening to inflapgs in the u.s. the. >> you could at a higher pris voo. >> >> inflapgs in the u.s. has deaccelerated because we tactically we put tariffs on things where there were close substitutes these in the stupid tariffs. these were designed to put maxle pressure on china. >> wouldn't the cfo of wal-mart would know what he is talking about. i wouldn't think he would say the prices were going oh up until unless he knew it. >> if you look at the wal-mart up and down the aceless we are at lacrosse tournaments and always looking for something we forgot. there are a million of things and there are some products without close substitutes but a lot do. in the end it's a sbirkle question which dominates if you look at inflangs in the u.s.

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we have a voice mail from someone if from in the trump administration in congress hoop it's unclear who to say. >> what's invite is there are multiple reachouts to flynn according to the memo both the administration and people connected to congress. >> multiple. >> multiple. one voice mail but multiple individuals. and some are outreaches to flynn, some to his lawyers. so i suspect congress is going to subpoena flynn. he is going to have to testify and tell us -- and name names for the first time. >> and it also means there are at least -- there are tapes. >> yeah, tapes is something the case lacked. right it's always been words on a page. remember the impact of "access hollywood," just the tactile, seeing someone listening to someone. if we get a live tape i think 80s big deal. >> when you speak about the tape, obviously around that tape was when wikileaks was putting out a whole lot of information to hurt hillary clinton, help donald trump. the documents we now is have unredacted show flynn told the special counsel he was among a

select few who heard statements among even senior campaign officials about wikileaks and the memo says this mienl flynn recalled conversation was senior campaign officials after the release of the podesta emails during which the prospect of reaching out to wikileaks was discussed. just to be clear. paul manafort is gone at this point. so you have people discussing whether it reach out to wikileaks on the eve of the -- you know, right after the p. tape and the election. >> it's collusion. that's what this is. it's the last weeks of october 2016. it's one hail mary pass after another. and people are even talking at that point of hey, does anyone have a line into wikileaks? maybe we should contact them. >> even after they released the podesta emails. >> when it says senior campaign officials plural. again i point owl paul manafort is not there. senior campaign officials at that time are don junior, jared

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the embassy in iraq siting a high risk for violence and kidnapping ahmed the tension. outfront now our counterterror analyst. former fbi intelligence adviser. former cryocounterterror official. we at cnn have not reviewed the recent intelligence. the u.s. hasn't provided any of this evidence. they say they have it but it hasn't been put out there yet. you worked at the cia for many years including in the lead up to the iraq war. is history reebting itse repeat. >> yes, let's be clear we had clear intelligence on saudi arabia, the murder of a journalist. the administration has an interest in developing interests with sairk what did we say intelligence not so much. >>s prince says he is upset leave it alone. >> we had pretty good excellent intelligence on russian interference with an election. what did we say for policy reasons we want to improve relation was the russians. the intelligence no. >> says he didn't do it. >> we have a government we want

to demonize. a president saying we want to tear up a nuclear agreement. all of a sudden intelligence is on cnn. i smell a rat, erin. there is different questions about intelligence. should the policy guys be concerned? of course they should. should the public be concerned? i'm skeptical. show me some money. i haven't seen it yet. >> becauses it a drum beat. it's commercial freighters, pictures of some fully assembling on a dho with w. that's not a tanker >> you're not shooting a short range ballistic missile offer a commercial freighter that's not happening. >> yet they put this intelligence out there. and we know for example, the national security adviser john bolton is extremely hawkish about iran. his op-ed of bomb iran. but president trump has sent mixed messages this week. okay. here he is. >> mr. president are we going to war with iran? >> i hope not.

>> i think it's fake news. okay. now, would i do that? absolutely. but we have not planned for that. hopefully we're not going to have to plan for that. if we did that we would send a hell of a lot more troops than that. >> okay. how dangerous is this? >> i think it's dangerous in terms of miscalculation. if you're the iranianens and don't have much contact with the americans how do you interpret with the president is saying? when you interpret it when is let goes to the united nations and says this is little rocket man and then negotiate in terms of iranian threat let me give you a metric. does the iranian government have a ballistic missile program that's reaching chicago do we have an active nuclear program? we say we love the north koreans they have missile programs they have directed across the pacific ocean. can't strike america. they said we hate the americans we we have the nuclear programs. we have the iranians who the said said the u.n. says they are in compliance on international forms np noms.

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after super storm sandy crushed the east coast. his church in far rockaway, new york, was on the brink of total destruction. he was overwhelmed, but pastor williams vowed to never give up. today, seven years after the storm, he is still preaching faith and perseverance. >> how many of you are going through a storm right now? >> reporter: for the parishioners of st. john baptist church, sunday is a day to give thanks. >> look down on the floor and pretend that's where your storm is. >> reporter: for pastor jd williams, there is much to be thankful for. >> sandy took the life out of this church, and now we come here. this church has now been resurrected from the ashes and there is life here. >> reporter: almost seven years ago, super storm sandy ripped the community of far rockaway, new york, just outside manhattan, and left a path of destruction up and down the east coast. the storm killed more than 100

people, causing billions in damages. >> this is a serious and big storm. >> i remember tragedy and darkness and despair. that's what i remember. >> reporter: more than 200 houses of worship were under water. st. john baptist church, less than half a mile from the ocean, was among the hardest hit. >> a lot was destroyed, this unit. >> reporter: i first met pastor here in 2012 just days after sandy hit. >> we need help. and i don't know even where to begin with all that we need. it's just overwhelming right now. >> reporter: before the storm, roughly 20% of rockaway peninsula's population was living below the poverty level, struggling with unemployment and a lack of housing. >> everything that we had was destroyed. every thought through my head is how are we going to survive this. but we didn't give up.

>> i remember coming here and seeing a place that had been destroyed. >> reporter: hundreds of parishioner, young and old, have always relied on st. john's for the base since, food, clothing, day care, transportation, and now that was gone. >> everything that's in the church on the lower level was under six feet of water. >> reporter: juanas price cared for children at the church for more than a decade. >> it was devastating to see all of the church we put in, the equipment, the toy, the books. the books. >> reporter: destroyed? >> destroyed. it made me feel so sad, but i always had the hope we would open it up again. >> all this was a day care. >> reporter: pastor williams vowed to rebuild, only he had a big problem there was no money from fema for places of worship at all? >> no money for places of worship. >> reporter: how did it feel when you found that out? >> i felt a sense of

abandonment, foresasakenforsake >> in places were destroyed like st. john baptist church. >> reporter: but as soon as we aired the story in 2012, pastor williams says that feeling of abandonment began to change. >> you are blessed, because through that interview, people across the country started sending donations to the church. >> reporter: people could see one story about one place and raise their hand and reach out. and they made a difference. the difference between 2012 and today is striking. i remember walking in here and sort of gasping because of how awful it looked. >> yes. yes. it was just an absolute disaster. >> reporter: it looks wonderful now, though. you really have changed it. >> you wouldn't know that this was the same room. >> no, you would not. >> at all. >> reporter: the entire first floor has been rebuilt.

so that everything in here is new. a new boiler and hot water system, a new baptistry. >> this is now the baptistry. >> reporter: the church is providing math and tutoring on the weekend. >> i think we're up to 25, 30 students. >> reporter: a church once again helping fill a gap in its community. but one thing is still missing, the day care. there is still a need? is still a need, yes. >> reporter: do people in the congregation ask you? >> yes. they come in with children. where is the day care? when is the day care going to open? we can only say we're working on it. >> joy! will come in the morning. >> reporter: there is a lot to be done, but the church was saved. >> we cried a lot. we shed a lot of tears, because it was our home. but we celebrate now because we see the victory. >> reporter: and for pastor williams, that is the key. tragedy and triumph. >> each time we face a tragedy,

we've experienced thereafter a triumph. >> and you can see much more of our champions for change series. it's on saturday night. you can watch all of them, all invigorating and inspirational stories. don't miss our hour-long special. it is at 8:00 eastern. thanks for watching. anderson starts now. good evening. there is a lot to get to tonight. there are new concerns about iran, new claims being made about whether iranian ships are carrying missiles and what america is prepared to do about it. and on the day the attorney general bill barr says he is okay if robert mueller testifies before congress, there is still no concrete plan for his appearance which has a lot of people wondering why. and president trump unveils a brand-new immigration plan, but it completely ignores some of the most complicated issues, keeping them honest on that. but first, there is breaking news on how michael flynn, president trump's first national security adviser, cooperated with special counsel robert mueller on the obstruction investigation involving the president, including what he told the special counsel about him being am