help. and we all know this isn't theoretical. all over the world as i speak, the united states is in some country repeating the same mistakes we made with the secret war over and over again. ♪ this week i'm in tacoma, washington, and seattle, washington, hanging out with the redneck revolt, the john brown gun club and now tacoma against nazis. i'm talking to white people who want to end white supremacy and they're not doing it the way white people normally do it by hashtaging it. right now they're protesting a nazi-owned tattoo shop. i should say allegedly nazi-owned tattoo shop. i don't want to get sued by nazis.

♪ >> what can i do? now that's a question i hear a lot from people in my travels during these hectic times. if i'm honest, it's a question i mostly hear from white people, specifically well-meaning white liberal people. see, black people and other people of color, we don't ask what we can do to help. in our history we've always had to figure out a way to make the world a better place while also figuring out ways to make it through the day. but after years of many white people thinking things are fine, some white people are starting to realize that, no, things are pretty "f." and those white people have taken to protesting, hashtaging, phone banking, donating and a little crocheting.

♪ >> but some white people are second amendmenting. specifically these people. not to be confused with these white people. i know it's confusing. these white people are the redneck revolt, they aren't a bunch of rednecks revolting against equality like i first thought. they're actually rednecks revolting against the rednecks who are revolting against equality. i'll explain. the redneck revolt was founded in 2009 in kansas and colorado as an armed defense, which means these people are exercising their second amendment right so they can protect their neighborhoods from a resurgent wave of neo-nazis, white supremacists, and whatever this guy has got going on. >> get the [ bleep ] out of here [ bleep ] now. >> you can basically identify the redneck revolt enemy as the alt-right. the alt-right is described by the southern poverty law center as a community whose core belief is that white identity is under attack which other than the

cancellation of "roseanne", i have no idea what they're talking about. >> [ bleep ]. >> here they are marching with tiki torches in order to keep away black people, jewish people and mosquitoes. now most people associate this type of thing with the south. but remember, the south isn't just a geographic location, it's a state of mind that extends from the deepest parts of texas all the way to the pacific northwest. in response to all of this, the redneck revolt has spread to the pacific northwest too. that's right. this guy is a good guy? wait a minute. that wu-tang hat is a good sign. i'm headed to meet the seattle area chapter called the puget sound john brown gun club. in the backwoods, doing their thing. >> yeah. ♪ >> today on "the united shades of america," this is happening.

lucky for my already ringing ears, they're taking a break from the shooting which is giving me an opportunity to pull aside members jules, foz and duke. so what made you decide to want to join up? >> i grew up in a really rural area and that's kind of part of my identity. >> yeah. >> it's been a hard thing to find a place on the left because it seems to be the thing of either you're against guns or you're against gays and black people -- >> humanity. >> that's sort of the trade off. >> yeah. >> i think this organization felt like a place that matched my politics and my history. >> okay. because, you know, john brown gun club, john brown certainly was not right-wing as we define it now. all right. let's talk about john brown. john brown was a 19th century abolitionist who was so committed to the freedom of black people, that he decided to take out an armory at harpers

ferry, virginia, with 21 of his friends. needless to say, i didn't go well. he tried to get more people to go with him, but even harriet tubman and frederick douglass were like, no, i'm good on that. but good luck in heaven. john brown's example continues to resonate with many white activists today like the redneck revolt. >> what number in the club were you? >> 11 or 12. i joined about a year ago. the reason for joining is i saw what happened in charlottesville. i'm a semi-observing jew and seeing the violence of charlottesville is what made me feel compelled to do something. >> yeah. okay, wait. white jewish guy, a white woman, i need to talk to a regular white guy. here we go. >> seattle is really white. i live in seattle. it's like -- it's norway. but in my neighborhood, it's 80%-plus people of color and around the election time, all of a sudden there's, like, white power slogans at my kids' park and swastikas down by the lake where i go hang out with my family. and like all this stuff starts swirling.

this elderly african-american couple a few blocks away, someone painted the "n" word on their truck and that's just like messed up. i was like, well, time to get off my ass and do something. >> yeah. why aren't more white people here? and i mean maybe not here with us now, but here in this frame of mind? >> that's the real question. that's part of what we're doing is can we create a space where we can do community defense so that people who are trying to fight back against the various elements of oppression in a society, they have the space to do it. >> yeah. good job, white people. [ laughter ] ♪ >> so this is my nra membership card. >> can i see it? >> sure. what happened? >> this is kind of like out of spite. >> let's be clear, these holes don't show how close he is to a free frozen yogurt, these are bullet holes that redneck revolt

member shot into his nra card in protest. >> the nra membership is required to shoot at certain ranges. >> yeah. >> i begged them, i said is there any other second amendment organization that i can join? and they said, no, that's the only one. >> really? >> i hate the nra. i think they're a [ bleep ] cowardly organization. i have no respect for them. >> that's clear. >> yeah. even from the standpoint of gun rights. they failed to stand up for philando castile after he was killed by police for exercising his second amendment rights. >> can i ask you a personal question? >> you can. >> how would you identify yourself racially? >> i'm from morocco. i'm an arab immigrant. >> okay. i got to be honest, when i walked up to a lot of white guys and i saw you, i was like, i think he's a double agent. i don't want to saying anything in front of your friends. >> no, it's true. most of the chapter is white men and that's -- i don't think anyone should be surprised by that. when you look at guns, at least gun culture in the united states, it's heavily dominated by white males. and we want to change that.

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matter, that's anti-american and it's racist. >> oh, rudy, is there anything you know? >> alicia is one of the coolest, most intelligent and down to earth people i know, but the way in which the media twists her work is a monument to white supremacy, so like a confederate flag in south carolina, we're taking it down. >> thank you for coming. >> this is awesome. >> this is awesome. >> i'm really glad to see you. >> let's get it popping. >> this is good. there's so many places i could go with this conversation. i want to start -- for a lot of people, they think it's black lives matter against white lives. >> it's interesting, whenever black people declare unity in the midst of unmitigated chaos, somehow it is so threatening to white people. it's as if when black people say we love ourself, white people be like, oh, you hate me? it's like wait a minute now. isn't this an opportunity for you to also declare that you also believe that black lives matter? >> we can't all matter. >> matter is limited.

>> matter is limited. >> it shows us a lot about where we have left to go. >> you get pointed at or accused of being anti-white. >> i'm like, my dad's white. what are we doing right now? what are we doing right now? >> how is this working? >> yeah. >> i saw you at an event that i put on and invited you to, it was a live podcast, and there's a woman on stage. >> yes. >> she was confused about the definition of racism. >> very confused. >> it would have been easy for you to -- >> pop off. >> it was like watching a jedi looking at somebody who's like, you don't even know how to use a lightsaber. it's not worth it. not today. >> yeah. yeah, because it's not about white people. it's about white supremacy, and white people have to disinvest from this stuff. and they're not going to if like every time there's some hectic shit going on you got to pull out the lightsaber. at the end of the day they're not going to come back, and you need them to come back. >> yes.

>> but for the most part, i think what's real is that white people are not taught about how they've been put in a position of power and that's exactly how it's allowed to fester and continue. and then from there, you don't stop there and just be the most conscious and still not do shit. >> yeah. i've attained the highest level of wokeness. >> some people do that. i am the most woke. >> exactly. now that we've done this, we need to actually get in the trenches. >> so then what is your reaction when you hear about groups like the redneck revolt. >> they must be in a long tradition of anti-racist organizing among poor and working-class white folks. i'm not as familiar with their work, but i can tell you that more groups like that are needed. >> yeah. white people have to get better at getting their people. >> that's right. >> we need -- you don't say allies. how do you put it? >> co-conspirators.

>> co-conspirators. >> co-conspirators. >> because co-conspirators go to jail with you. >> that's right. >> they're not like, you'll be okay. >> black lives matter. >> thoughts and prayers. thoughts and prayers. [ laughter ] ♪ >> i know there are a lot of white people watching this show and are like, kamau, that was a great segment, but i don't know if i'm quite ready to get a gun and go toe to toe with neo-nazis. lucky for you, alicia brought one of her co-conspirators with her, director of the group people's action, george goehl. >> let me be clear, you're only here because of her? >> yeah. [ laughter ] >> and i don't mean that in a bad way. she was like you need to book, george, okay, okay. >> you know how we do. >> i know that. >> his organization is taking the lead on dealing with our country's deep-rooted social and economic issues by organizing america's working class often targeted by the white supremacist movement. >> tell me about your organization. >> people's action is a multiracial working-class organization.

we've got hundreds of thousands of members. we're doing for better or worse, the biggest rural organizing program in the u.s., the only one that's bigger is the alt-right. and like, what we do, is go out and community organize. that means going out and knocking on doors, listening to people, figuring out what they're upset about, and saying, what if you all got together and worked on this. we do that in big cities, suburbs and rural communities and we've built enough power to actually change things. >> so what's the conversation that you're having with people about whiteness? >> we're not going to knock on a bunch of doors and say do you want to come to an anti-racism meeting. those are going to be small meetings or they would be meetings of the people who are already with it. >> well, we're all here again, everybody. nancy, thanks for bringing the cupcakes again. we always love your cupcakes, nancy. let's wrap this up. [ laughter ] >> that's not what we're doing. >> yeah. >> we just finished knocking on 10,000 doors and asking people what is it you're upset about, what is it you want to change? whatever the issue is, and move people into a campaign to win. and then along the way, then we

start to have conversations around race. did muslims crash the economy? are black people pushing opioids into this part of the state? did undocumented immigrants stash a bunch of money in corporate tax havens, no. and we found the enemy is not each other. let's focus on the real villain in this story. but we can only do this, i believe, if we start where people are at, work on what they want to work on, build a foundation and a relationship, and then we can start to have a different conversation. >> let's dive into that. what are the characteristics of white communities that people are missing right now? what's actually going on? >> it's hard to imagine until you go there just how bad it is. it's a different kind of poverty. it's ghost town poverty. it's like the buildings had gotten knocked down but not taken away. it's got a desperateness to it. folks are considering the conditions and the environment

they live in, pretty damn woke. most of these communities are mixed race. just to say -- >> wait, wait, wait. you're telling me that there are folks of all different races living together in these communities? >> yes. >> that are dealing with ghost town poverty? >> yes. >> because we don't hear that story. >> it's a huge problem. >> what's at stake when we miss that story? >> if the primary portrayal of poor white people is as backward, trump-loving hillbillies, the people who are with us in these communities are going to be like, if you all don't want me on the team, i'm going to stop trying out. i don't feel like you all want me on the team. if we're not there, somebody else is going to be. and so like i've got fliers that people have sent me that are, hey, are you struggling with opioid addiction? it's not your fault. we can help you. give us a call, the white knights of the kkk, and there's a local phone number. >> let's sit with that for a second.

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♪ at the gun range, people from the redneck revolt talked about something i've thought about the seattle area for years. >> it's norway. >> but according to the stats, the streets of seattle are changing. apparently, seattle's white population has declined to its lowest point in modern history. and like many parts of america, ever since donald trump started making america great again, hate crimes are on the rise doubling over the last year. many incidents being tied to white supremacist groups. >> do you ever see that coming through seattle, like, some of that red stuff, those good old boys driving through here? >> you do, actually. they're not always just regular people. they're sometimes in uniforms and they're sometimes people of power. >> yeah. let's be clear. she's talking about the cops. >> so you seem like a person if i say the words "white supremacy" to you, you didn't

really flinch, you nodded. >> white supremacy is the standard in america and it's always been, and we need to work on dismantling it. >> yeah. >> the northwest is a melting pot of all types of cultures, all right? we have to make judgments. >> cnn sucks. so when they say we -- >> cnn sucks. >> they also pay my rent. >> cnn. >> thank you. i'll tell my kids. >> make america great again. >> you're doing a good job. i love that sweater. >> now there are people out there who would go even further than the redneck revolt to stop the rise of hate. i'm headed to bainbridge island, to do what alt-right twitter thinks i'm always doing, meeting up with antifa. ♪ >> as we all know, antifa gets all the headlines for confronting the alt-right. and while the redneck revolt and antifa are associated, they have one very big difference. the redneck revolt is about preventing violence while antifa

is like, we wish a nazi would. they very specifically wanted meet up at the japanese-american exclusion memorial. whether you love or hate antifa, chances are right now you're feeling a nervous jolt of anticipation as i'm about to sit down with one of these legendary hard-core activists. >> today i was reading an article, raffi, who did the baby beluga, antifa. >> not what you were expecting, huh? this is ariel. and lucky for us, ariel is here to help us learn. >> full disclosure, tucker carlson from fox news at one point in the not too distant past labeled me a leader of antifa in the bay area which was news to me. >> wow. >> kamau bell is among other things a host on cnn. he is a supporter of antifa. they hate this country. they want to tear it down. none of that seems to matter to kamau bell. you are peddling hate and bell is. >> it was funny to me because it was like, i literally don't -- i've never been to a meeting.

for example, just the pronunciation, antifa, antifa? >> i usually say antifa. >> so how would you describe yourself in relation to antifa? >> the way i would describe antifa is more like this, do you approve of fascism? >> no. >> then you could consider yourself antifa if you chose too. if you're opposed to fascism -- >> yeah, i am. >> -- then you are antifa because it's anti-fascism. that can be a lot of things. let's say they're a great programmer and they can build a website to educate children, do you think people deserve love? antifa. [ laughter ] >> antifa is anti-fascism. but in the world of politics, where does it land on our left-right spectrum? it doesn't. >> so the political compass is more like a square that i use. go down to the bottom left. that's where you find anarcho-communism which is the political ideology that i have now. >> anarcho-communism. >> no leaders. no hierarchies.

you go to the top right, that's where you find fascism. >> where's a "i'm with her" hillary democrat? >> it's probably the left of center, a little bit as opposed to a right-of-center more like -- i'm trying to think of a the moderate republican -- abraham lincoln? >> that's the last time we had a true moderate republican. [ laughter ] >> now we have to talk about the stuff you see on the news. specifically you've actually at times had to get out there and mix it up. what was it like. >> so i went to visit this protest in portland. there was the proud boys and this group called act. it's anti-islamic. and this guy just ran at these two girls. and so they were both wearing hijabs and he definitely looked like he was going to hit them, jump on them. i didn't even really think about it. i jumped at him, but i -- i

picked him up, like off the ground, and i threw him on the ground and i jumped on him and i started punching him. >> is that easy to imagine you in the streets punching a proud boy in the face? it doesn't mean i don't believe you would do it. you know how you sort of frame people as like this is what i'm expecting. this is what this person is going to be. and then to sit here with you right now, it's like, it's not what i would imagine. >> oh. i love that these are -- >> i know. i like that. >> wow. and this is a -- >> i usually have a couple of those on me just in case. i use it for whatever i need to use it for. >> point taken. in other words, stay in line, kamau. keep it friendly. so you have a bag of things. let's see -- let's do show-and-tell. including your mask. >> this is good for masking up. this is what a lot of people use. it's just a black bandanna. you wear it like this. >> okay.

my heart elevated just as you started -- i was like, is something happening. [ laughter ] >> here we go. so these are some of the fliers. >> oh, so this is the thing you put up around neighborhoods. >> this guy works for i.c.e., grabbing kids, taking them away from their families, whatever. so i dox, and for people who don't know what doxing is, it's basically like you post people's public information or you make them known to people. >> are you not afraid that somebody from the other side is going to see that and say i'm going to dox you? >> they can go for it. >> you could have showed up today masked up so we don't see your face, so there's a little bit more plausible deniability or -- >> i could have. it's never made me stop before. >> i'm going to block out this person's face. have you seen this person getting coffee in your neighborhood or on your bus? this person is part of the privatized immigration detention system. they are a modern day nazi putting people, including children, in concentration camps. be on the lookout. some people are going to say

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♪ the seattle art and music scene is legendary for being anti-establishment. so it's no surprise that many of the people from that scene are also interested in dismantling one of america's oldest establishments, white supremacy. today i'm headed to the vera project to meet with these collaborators. >> i think our role is in saying no, strong n-o, to white nationalism. we call ourselves, if you don't, they will, or we call our collaboration that. >> i think a big part of our work is generating and holding these spaces for people to really kind of cultivate anti-fascist dreams.

>> wow. to cultivate anti-fascist dreams. it's like i want to do this. >> we can be creative, snarky. there's so many ways to say no. everyone can do it. >> sometimes it can be like no, and sometimes it's like no! >> do you have the pocket guide? >> oh, yeah. >> when we did this -- >> nice. >> the little no is like, no, this is bad. and the not ever is recognizing that there's a social movement that's seeking to take over. >> this is like i voted a straight democratic ticket and this is like we got to hit the streets! >> right. the very least we can do is say no to white nationalism. >> this is the power of art. this is a very intense message, put in a very fun little package. ♪ >> their pamphlet offers insight on things like how to defuse white supremacy.

it was a part of their no, not ever exhibition that also included interviews with activists in the pacific northwest who worked against white nationalism in the 1980s and '90s. and while they may not identify as such, i'm pretty sure this is antifa. >> there's two of my favorite words in this, they start the whole thing off, how do we solve the problem of white femininism? >> yeah. when we think of white -- because of our own sexism, we think of a man. women are totally invisible and white women, they've gotten a pass. >> in the '20s, white women threw women of color under the bus for the vote, really tapping into what power and white supremacy offered them. >> you heard that right. i know susan b. anthony is beloved and even put on a coin that nobody cared about but the women's suffrage movement was only about white women. and some organizers got the 19th amendment through by reassuring white men that white supremacy would be strengthened if white women were given the right to vote. whoa. what in the name of mrs. maisel

is going on, white women? black women, on the other hand, had to wait until the voting rights act of 1965 to legally go to the polls without harassment. although like my grandmother said, just because white folks say it, it doesn't mean they play it. >> how do you feel about the redneck revolt? the idea of progressive people who are also we need to take up arms and we need to exercise our second amendment rights? >> it's great. [ laughter ] >> that's great. >> it's a great no and a yes and it's competing. ♪ >> look at this. one of my favorite things. grainy black and white footage of back and white people fighting for our civil rights. seattle's history of coming together to fight racism can provide lessons for people who are just showing up to the party. right now i'm showing up to soulful dishes to share some soul food with patriot party member chuck armsbury and aaron dixon, founder of the seattle edition of the black panther party. these two have spent decades

together fighting for the cause of justice. >> there's a narrative that the black panthers didn't like white people, wanted to hurt white people and you were there at the beginning, it was like -- you two were already working together. >> malcolm x went through that evolution. he went through the period of being a black nationalist and after traveling not just around the world, but in parts of america, he began to realize that this struggle was not just about black people. this struggle was for the right to all oppressed people. >> that was an enduring kind of solidarity that i felt with the members of the panther party. it's a sense of duty for me in a sense and honor. we're going to look out for each other. >> and the fact that black americans are such a small population, how can we talk about changing the system in america, revolution in america, when we're such a small part of the pie. ♪

>> in the late '60s, the panthers banded together with chuck's patriot party who organized poor rural white people in the appalachian south and the pacific northwest. other organizations doing similar work were the puerto rican-led young lords out of new york and chicago and the young patriots organization also out of chicago. >> talk about the role that guns played back then, especially with the panther party. >> we carried our weapons everywhere that we went. >> yeah. >> people always try to say that the black panther party was violent. we weren't violent. we espoused self-defense >> everybody was armed. everybody had a loaded weapon. but during whole period is when the fbi got really active and they found a way to bust me. and so i ended up being charged and convicted of a sawed off shotgun one quarter inch too short. >> wow. >> they gave me ten years. no priors. >> no priors. >> and i'm a graduate student. >> as long as they are able to keep us divided and fighting amongst each other, the longer

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since the members of the john brown gun club were such big supporters of black lives matter, i thought i'd give them a chance to sit down with one of the cofounders and fan boy out. >> don't embarrass me, white people. ♪ >> wait a minute. come on. >> you better have gotten that. >> it is honestly an honor to meet you. whenever we do actions out, we wear black lives patches on our plate carriers because we're perfectly aligned with the cause that you helped promote. >> excellent. thank you for saying that. tell me more. why guns? why is guns the organizing principle? >> there's something to be said for being able to show up to a protest with highly armed and primarily violent far-right activists and they don't do shit when we're there. and everything is peaceful. and people get to speak their mind and protest. and you showing up a rally with

a gun is different than me showing up at a rally with a gun. and it is an obligation in this country at this point for me, i feel, i need to go and put my body in front of their guns. and i'm okay with that. my wife is less okay with that. [ laughter ] >> and i can use my white privilege to speed down the highway or i can use my white privilege to put my body in front of other people's guns. >> the idea of white people with guns showing up to protect people like you who are out there to speak your mind. i'm like, that sounds right. i don't want you carrying a gun to the black lives matter rally. >> you know black lives matter already gets characterized as a terrorist organization. >> even when nobody is touting guns. >> i've never held a gun in my life. >> in some ways, right-wing elements see it as a way to find common ground between us and it allows us to start a conversation with them. >> that's fascinating. >> so we put out literature at a second amendment rally that said gun control is racist and we

identified and explained all the different ways that gun control laws have been used to target black men specifically. >> all gun laws in america have been about disarming black people. white people are afraid of black people with guns. >> yes. >> that is is root of gun law in america. >> that's an interesting point. >> before we wrap this up, i feel like i want to invite you to give them something to take to their white people. >> oh, man. i think you all are doing it, honestly. i feel really heartened. the only other thing i can say is keep embedding yourself in communities that people don't go to except for the alt-right. >> on saturday, a group that we work with a lot is having a rally outside of a neo-nazi tattoo shop that is actually in my neighborhood and needs to be shut down. >> so i'm going to the -- >> you're going to go check it

out? >> yeah. >> you're a gangster. [ laughter ] >> when alicia calls you gangster, you put that in your bio. [ laughter ] ♪ >> the redneck revolt provide their own brand of community defense in many ways like protecting counter protestors, taking a page from the black panthers by feeding those in need, and by teaching gun safety courses like this one. >> go ahead. >> i push this button? >> there you go. [ applause ] >> i've never touched a gun in my life and watching this powerpoint presentation makes me want to pee my pants. i'm so nervous about this. >> got it, got it. >> this is haley, she's a spokesperson for tacoma against nazis. >> so how did you get involved in this? >> so there is a local tattoo parlor in tacoma that is run by

confirmed neo-nazis. they would tell you that they're not nazis but yet they deck themselves in nazi imagery and -- it's really important to me that we have a group of people that stand up and just send a public message to say, tacoma is a place where we're not going to put up with this. we're not cool with nazis doing business in our community. >> these photos of the tattoo shop owner, show tattoos of the number 88. and according to the anti-defamation league, that's a white supremacist code for heil hitler. there's also this group photo with a banner of crossed hammers, which is the logo of a skinhead organization documented by the southern poverty law center. and on their shirts is what's called the wolf's angel sign. the symbol for the nazi party and worn by the german ss. they got a lot ways to show you that they're nazis. we get it. you're nazis. >> so far we've had two protests outside of the tattoo parlor and at the second protest things got pretty heated. there were a few moments that definitely could have escalated

into violence and it was these guys who shut it down. >> wow. >> so much about what we're trying to do is build a coalition and inspire people to take action and so we need to recognize that everyone has different tactics. they're not all going to be our we need to all link our arms and agree we have a common enemy. >> i have a question. you have a wedding ring. do you have any kids? >> i have a baby. >> a baby. how old is the baby? >> 14 months. he just started walking. >> you're a new mom. you're married and have a job. you don't look like a nazi fighter. if i were to look at a nazi fighter, i would see a man or a woman in fatigues. >> i imagine you're familiar with 4 chan and 8 chan. >> they are friends conspiracy

groups that can post anonymously without censorship. >> there's threads on 8 chan on white supremacists are trying to hunt down my address. my husband and i have been nervous. you know, we have a baby. we're not trying to be reckless. we feel strongly, it's time to show up with our faces and our reputations and our bodice and take on a little bit of risk that everyone else doesn't get to choose whether or not to have the safety. >> taking on that risk with your skin, with your skin. >> i have to show them that we're here and we don't like what they're doing this.

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races. >> we are protesting a potentially violent group. we're focusing on safety. we're going to have a fun day if we follow instructions. >> just like a mom, have fun, but be safe. >> i am posting my brother's and my husband's birthday party after the protest. >> i love this. i love that we still have to live our lives. my husband is at home cooking his own birthday dinner for his party. >> i have to fight nazis. you have to pick up some slack. it's pleasant, strangely. you know? we can tailgate if we wanted to. nice. now, is that on the run from a couple nights ago? >> yes. >> you went to the jay-z and beyonce concert in seattle? >> yeah. >> you got like a full shot of, let's do this. >> yeah.

♪ put your signs up, to protest all of the nazis ♪ ♪ if you like it, you have to kick the nazis out ♪ >> it's parody. i don't have to pay for this. ♪ i thought i would be across the street from the nazis. we're about to walk across the nazi tattoo shop right now. >> nazi scum. >> your time is done. >> who's town. >> our town. >> what's up, man? >> they have people coming from the back. they are coming from the back. that truck, i don't know if you noticed, that truck came from over here. >> you're seeing some action happening. >> they're just showing up. we'll see how it goes. but looks good. >> good work.

>> a great crowd. >> nazi scum. >> your time has come. >> nazi scum. >> your time has come. >> while i was afraid something bad night happen, apparently when you show up with a bunch of committed community members, white supremacy takes a knee. >> how is this going? >> fantastic. >> what do you think? >> i mean, it's weird. it seems good. when i was told earlier in the week, i was going to a nazi protest, i didn't go, that should be fun. >> but it's fun. >> people love getting rid of nazis. >> i mean, what feels better than this, right? >> yeah. i didn't expect kids to be here. >> this is like an all-time picnic. everybody in america should take a day off on the weekend and protest nazis. >> it's cool to me to see the broad base of community support. we have the gun club, some moms. we had a couple neighbors come by and say, i didn't know anyone

cared. someone finally showed up. >> a lot of people of color will be surprised there was a lot of white people like this. and a bunch of white people, thinking i thought i was doing enough. >> if we're not helping, we're coconspirators. >> i'll let you get back to it. thank you. thank you. ♪ >> what can i do? that was the question that started this whole thing. like most episodes when we ask questions, this time, we answered it. you can use your privilege to defend others. you can get directly in the fight and still make it home in time for that birthday party. and all the while, you can learn from the people who have been doing this work for years. white people, we've seen what these folks are willing to do, what are you willing to do? it's not a rhetorical question. >> first time i've heard a black lives matter that i didn't feel

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