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bright lights, just not too bright. >> i thought that was the sun in my eyes. it's these stupid lights, these people. i mean, what are -- what are they doing? is there any way they can turn those lights down, folks? a real genius got those lights. >> we begin this hour on capitol hill with another empty chair. the house judiciary committee holding a hearing today with the former white house counsel don mcgahn who was supposed to testify. the white house directing him last night not to testify. we'll dive more into the white house legal arguments in a few minutes, but let's start with the empty chair. the top democrat on the committee, the chairman jerry nadler saying today this absence crossed the line. >> when this committee issues a subpoena even to a senior presidential adviser the witness must show up. our subpoenas are not optional. mr. mcgahn has a legal
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obligation to be here for this scheduled appearance. if he does not immediately correct his mistake, this committee will have no choice but to enforce the subpoena against him. let me be clear. this committee will hear mr. mcgahn's testimony even if we have to go to court to secure it. >> another no from the trump white house means more pressure on the democratic speaker nancy pelosi. her preference is to slow, methodical fact-finding approach but more and more democrats, young and older, see no choice now but to open impeachment proceedings but the speaker though says all is fine. >> madam speaker, are you under increased pressure to impeach the president in your caucus? >> no, no. >> cnn's manu raju tracking all of this live on capitol hill. manu, even before the no show you were hearing for more and more democrats, and it's interesting, not just the freshmen anti-trumpers, more seasoned members, even people who are loyal to pelosi, saying the white house leaving us no choice. how is the mood after the hearing?
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>> reporter: yeah. that's right. what i'm hearing from a number of members both veteran members and freshmen members alike saying at least begin the impeachment inquiry. at least begin the fact-finding to determine whether or not the congress needs to move forward, the house needs to move forward on voting on articles of impeachment. they want to at least begin that formal process, but democratic leadership, nancy pelosi is trying to make clear that what the process of what they are doing isn't much different than that formal process that they are investigating and issuing subpoenas. subpoenas are not being complied with, and then there's a process. the process includes going to court, fighting some of these battles in court, and what she has argued behind the scenes i am told is that approach has worked and gotten results, including yesterday's court ruling that led one federal judge to say the house oversight committee must get records from the trump accounting firm that they had been demanding despite the resistance from the trump organization. now -- but it's clear, john,
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behind the scenes and publicly, you're hearing veteran members like the member of the leadership dave cicilliny, joaquin castro, member of the congressional hispanic congress and even the house budget committee chairman telling me it's time to move forward with some sort of impeachment process, and you're seeing some who have been skeptical about moving forward like adam schiff, the house intelligence committee chairman signaling that he was skeptical before saying now the case is being getting stronger to moving forward with impeachment in light of stonewalling. the question though, john, is how much longer can pelosi keep her caucus at bay? >> john. >> how much longer can she say no pressure, no big deal. manu raju live on capitol hill. to share their reporting an insights, kaitlan collins, and the speaker knows her caucus better than anybody. she knows how to manage this. she won't tell us, yeah, there's
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a bit of a family feud going on. my question is we know there's frustration. we know all these notes from the white house and have a lot of other democrats saying what choice do we have? let's do something. is this people venting, or is the line moving and is she moving closer to where she says do it. >> i don't know whether she's moved but the line has moved within her caucus without question. manu is right. you just see certain people who are -- the words are, you know, if you're using a one to ten dial they were at sort of a seven and now they are at the 8 1/2 and nine. not sure whether it goes to eleven like "spinal tap" but for some members it probably does. a sign of where she is. she just called what basically is an emergency meeting for 9:00 a.m. tomorrow to have her caucus hash this out. that meeting wasn't on the schedule until this morning. they -- they saw what happened. >> they just had a meeting. >> you have to keep having meetings you're trying to manage the plot. >> they had multiple meetings last night they had to call
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because they realized this push was happening to start the impeachment inquiry, not necessarily impeachment proceedings, and the argument from those democrats on judiciary is, well, we want to get this information, and this is a way to get it, and then the counterargument from democrats who are still not there yet is, look, we just got a win in the courts when it comes to some of trump's financial documents, so let's go that route. >> let's go that route is the problem is -- we'll get to the administration's take thon in a few minutes and the administration appeals and it goes on for weeks and weeks if not months and months and at some point the supreme court will get involved in this but to the evolution of the democrats. let's just capture here had a little bit of the flavor. >> nobody runs for congress with the idea that i want to go there and start impeachment, but i think that's what it's come to. >> i think the case gets stronger the more they stonewall the congress. >> i'm personally much more open to it now than i was even a few months ago. >> reporter: i am not at all ruling out impeachment. >> the judge said yesterday we don't need impeachment procedures to get the materials
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that we want. >> my position on impeachment is what it has always been, and that is the president of the united states of america needs to be impeached. >> i trust the speaker is taking a measured approach to ensure that we're moving everyone forward. >> i'll come back to this in a minute because it's related. breaking news related to all of this. another thing nancy pelosi has said everyone calm down until we hear from the special counsel robert mueller. breaking news into cnn about why the holdup over robert mueller going up to capitol hill and testify. sources telling cnn robert mueller is hesitant to testify publicly. let's get into that with cnn's laura jarrett live at the justice department. laura, take us inside this debate. why is the special counsel wary? >> well, john, we've been wondering for weeks what the holdup was. we all remember the report, the mueller redacted report actually dropped back in april, and yet for weeks there's been sort of a stalemate going on. we knew there were direct
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negotiations eventually now between the special counsel's team and lawmakers on capitol hill, but you see chairman jerry nadler not pressing to schedule a date, even the ranking republican doug collins mentioning that today at that hearing on the former white house counsel don mcgahn, and sources are now telling us that the special counsel's team section pressing some reticence about having the special counsel robert mueller appear before the house judiciary committee citing the political environment that he would be coming into after being virtually silent for nearly two years, to have to go before the cameras, go before the public, and so one option that's on the table among others is to have him testify behind closed doors. now no word whether the democrats would go for that. obviously they have been pressing for him to appear publicly. chairman nadler has said that he will subpoena him, if necessary. unclear whether he'll actually carry through on that, but it just shows you this is part of the reason that we're learning
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about why this kate hasn't beda scheduled considering that you would think the author of the report would be the first one to appear on capitol hill. >> maybe we can't clear this up, and maybe that's part of the confusion in the reporting. is it robert mueller's team that's hesitant or robert mueller himself or robert mueller as part of the team and they are doing this collectively? >> reporter: well, robert mueller isn't the one negotiating directly with capitol hill, and so his team is the one that is expressing the reticence. whether it's the team expressing his own reticence or their reticence on his behalf, i think we'll have to get more reporting on that, but we do know that they are conveying that sentiment to the hill, john. >> important. appreciate it. laura jarrett live at the justice department. let's bring that into the room at a time, again, at a time of increased frustration in the democrats that they can't get the answers that they want. one of the people they want most is robert mueller because they want to, as chairman nadler did this morning, read through what don mcgahn told the special
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counsel, read through some of what robert mueller himself laid as ten potential counts of obstruction, ten potential examples of obstruction, how big of a shift would this be if the answer from the special counsel is i don't want to or at least i don't want to publicly. >> that's a big deal because it makes a big difference if he's behind closed doors or in front of the cameras for everyone to be able to hear him talk about what's in this report, because you can read the report. you can see very clearly how robert mueller felt about this, but unless he's in front of the cameras, then democrats will be denied having this star eyewitness come out and talk about what he saw firsthand throughout the two years of this investigation and that's why we're seeing the frustration over don mcgahn not testifying in front of the cameras being so public because they want to be able to make the argument that wail so if robert mueller is worried about looking political which, of course, the democrats would try to make this a political situation if they brought him in front of the cameras, you could see why that would frustrate them because they will be denied their star witness. >> imagine democrats asking questions about, director mueller, did the attorney
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general misrepresent your report? what is not -- the question about what's not in the report but could have been, questions about other cases that he's spun off to other prosecutors. i mean, this really could be a star turn. i don't think testifying behind closed doors would take him out of the political equation. >> yeah. >> can you -- let me just -- this may be a foolish question because this town is so broken and because the trust deficit on both sides or all sides is so deep, but after the taxpayers spent all of this money, whether you agree or disagree that there should have been a mueller investigation at home, that the man who conducted the investigation who filed this report who left open questions and people are debating whether or not that was wise or not never has toss answer to the american people? >> democrats are going to -- they are not going to take no for an answer. like so -- there may be hesitations right now, but i think they are going to do everything they can to get to a yes. maybe it starts behind closed doors and then goes in front of the public, but every democrat i've spoken to, even ones that
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are in vulnerable districts, say that they want to hear from mueller. >> some of this politics pre-dates actually filing the report meaning the congress was divided and republicans had decided even on bob mueller's day one, it didn't matter what they found, they would be with the president and the democrats decided there was collusion and everything else and then the mueller report comes in and they have to deal with the facts before them and then there's his friend, at least longtime friend, bill barr writes a letter that i'm sorry if you read the barr left and you read the mueller report, they are apples and orange from parallel universes, choose your term there. that's not my fault or the american's people fault that bob mueller should be put in an awkward situation. shouldn't thereby transparency. >> this is a very experienced person. he took the head of the nbc at 9/11 happened and testified multiple times a year before the house and senate judiciary committees for 11 years, and more often than not whenever congress would ask him questions they would look foolish because he would look smarter.
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i don't think this is -- this is going to hold up. >> but the key flaw in all of this is he's still a justice department employee. still going to work every day since the end of the version since the report has been turned over, made public and chairman nadler said last night on cnn he didn't know what it is that robert mueller is doing there at work but he's still technically under their purview. it's a little bit different if he becomes a private citizen but he's still there right now. >> interesting question. maybe they are just negotiating. sometimes negotiations happen over the ground rules, how long, how many committees and how many times does he have to come up. maybe that's what it is. transparency would be nice after all of this. up next, why the white house says they can defy congress and not face any consequences. you wouldn't accept an incomplete job
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soon. cnn legal analyst shan wu joins our conversation. how significant is it? it's one judge at the district court level. the district is saying, a-ha, it's an obama appointee, but when you have so many of these fights brewing in the courts, if you're congress, is it significant that you at least won the first one at the first level? >> oh, very much so, and it's really a beautifully written opinion actually, not to sound too nerdy about it, but it reads like the opening of a novel. he looks back at president james buchanan, and he also lays a really solid legal foundation giving numerous areas where it does comport with legislative reasons. >> and that's what makes it important as it goes up through the court. did the judge properly -- did this judge properly justify as we go up. the office of legal counsel, which is an arm of the justice department, the policy arm of the justice department, wrote an opinion that essentially said recognizing congressional authority to compel the president's immediate advisors to appear and testify at the times and place of their choosing would interfere directly with the president's ability to faithfully discharge his responsibility.
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it goes on to say it would allow the congress to a race those advisers and retaliate for actions the committee didn't like and embarrass and weaken the president for partisan gain. the office of legal counsel is the more political party of the justice department. the question is can this stand? >> well, that's the big question the white house is banking on. that and the timeline because this is going to be a real lengthy process. you saw that with the appeal of this, and that's -- that's essentially what the white house is counting on, that this is going to be dragged out, but they truly do feel that this is the best argument making this community argument going forward that these people can't come and testify, but the question with this judge making this ruling is what is the effect that this will have on all of the other instances where the white house is fighting congressional subpoenas l.it provide for fodder for them to make similar actions, yes, there is a legislative purpose here and that's the question going forward. >> and the big question for democrats is how soon will they get the information at the heart of this, and if the appeals
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process will drag that out and it speaks to whether or not -- if they don't get that information very quickly then they may, again, bring up impeachment inquiry in order to compel the administration. >> to say that that's a higher level. it's not a committee asking for something, essentially a trial in the congress where you have more luck in the courts fighting for it. a constitutional law professor and cnn contributor said this on twitter. the olc's legal opinion says the white house can direct mcgahn not to testify but it cites zero legal basis on which the president can stop mcgahn. don't go. you're the former white house counsel. the white house claims that it owns the documents, if you will, because he was a white house employee at the time. is there anything, a.r.-in the opinion or, b, in the law that don mcgahn from showing up? >> i think mcgahn would be more concerned about his ethical responsibilities about waiving his client's protection but what makes no sense to me i'm curious
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why he has the documents and secondly why doesn't he just show up and then make his legal arguments. why disrespect congress by simply not even showing your face. that seems odd to me >> you think he should have shown up this morning and said i can't answer. work it out with the president if you want but i can't answer. >> exactly. >> trump has given him a name already, joe biden gets a condescending shout-out at the president's big pennsylvania rally. pars hilton is like... we're gonna match that rate and give you an extra 25% off. what would travel sites do if you found a different price? that's not my problem, it's your problem. book at hilton.com and get the hilton price match guarantee. let's see, aleve is than tylenol extra strength. and last longer with fewer pills. so why am i still thinking about this? i'll take aleve. aleve. proven better on pain.
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. the president asked pennsylvania for a second chance last night, second term is the better way to put it, and in doing so gave extra attention to the democrat he sees as his greatest threat. >> every democrat running for president wants to reopen the economic assault on pennsylvania by crippling the coal and shale industries and by crippling your now once again great steel industry. your steel industry is great. and don't forget. biden deserted you. he's not from pennsylvania. i guess he was born here, but he left you, folks. he left you for another state. he left you for another state, and he didn't take care of you because he didn't take care of your jobs. >> for the record, joe biden, son of scranton did leave pennsylvania at the age of 10 or 11 when his father got a new job in neighboring delaware. that president trump sees biden
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as his top rival is noteworthy, that is one big takeaway from the rally last night. another takeaway, he's mad at his best friend. >> what's going on with fox, by the way? what's going on there? they are putting more democrats on than you have republicans. something strange is going on at fox, folks, something very strike. somebody is going to have to explain the whole fox deal to me. >> he's not happy. let's step back from that unless you want to jump in on the fox point which i find kind of interesting that he's so disappointed with his friend. maybe he'll unfriend them, i don't know. he gives a speech. you reported part of the reporting yesterday that he wants to do more of these. he wants to get out there and be active. tired of turning on the television and seeing the democratic candidates and he wants to get into the mix. he did stay focused on the economy, but it was also crystal clear he does a sweeping of all of the democrats, but biden is the one and pennsylvania is on his mind. >> makes it seem like biden is
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going to be the nominee when that's what biden is going to do, only place himself against the president. the president was in pennsylvania where biden was two days before even though the president was trying to frim it as biden deserting the state because he's worried about joe biden and where he was in pennsylvania is a very deep red area that he won easily. some of the president's advisers says maybe he should go to somewhere like philadelphia, somewhere where he needs to actually win over some of those voters who could vote for joe biden, but what we're seen with the president complaining about fox news there is when he turns on the television and sees democrats all over the tv all day long because there's so many of them running for president it annoys him. itti him, and he doesn't like seeing that because he feels like they are betting better coverage than he ever got when he was running for president and that's something that the president doesn't like. his advisers are worried about this going forward because more and more as the summer advances and we get closer to 2020 the more democrats will be on tv so they want to try to counterprogram when you see people like joe biden give rallies. >> the more he talks about
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biden, the better for biden, right. the fact that biden is able to get under his skin, when he was launched and was able to get the president to talk about charlottesville. that helps biden were democratic voters. again, there is that debate going on amongst them whether or not they want someone who can beat trump which is what biden is trying to frame himself as or if they want something new. >> if you want proof that biden is upped his skin a little bit, one of the insults last night crowd size. >> when joe biden announced he's running for president, by the way -- by the way, look and the thousands and thousands of people that we have. they said he had 600 people. no, no. foreign countries liked it much better. that's what they want. they want biden. sleepy joe says that he's running to, quote, save the world. he's going to save every country
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but ours. >> there's some humor there and some insults there, but there's also just pretty self-evident 30 electoral votes very critical to the trump map in 2016, central to the trump map in 2020. it's on his mind. >> think of pennsylvania as a big square. not the john king magic wall, but, you know, down here in the southeast corridor is philadelphia and the big suburbs. that's about 40% of the vote. biden or whoever the democratic nominee is going to win huge there. as kaitlan was pointing out, lycoming county is up near the "t" and trumped turned that from a 6 a-40 state to a 71% trump victory. he needs to keep ripley kating that throughout the small counties, so that's what he's going to try to do. he's running a base strategy over and over again. >> he's running against a guy whose biggest asset is more democrats identify as obama democrats than any other category, progressive, democratic socialist, et cetera, so if you want to get a flavor of why he's worried about biden,
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look at biden's announcement that he wasn't running, look at the themes when he says he's not running. he's talking about working class folks being left behind, the economy is great, but, and go look at those themes. you can see where it would dovetail with the president's own message. >> the president often gets criticized for wandering off the equipment. he did spend some time on the economy last night. >> those debates should be very easy when we meet whoever we're going to meet. when you have the best employment numbers in history, when you have the best unemployment numbers in history, when you have the best economy probably that we've ever had, i don't know how the hell do you lose this election, right? >> he's framing -- he's framing his own question, if you will, that if you just look at the numbers, if you took the names out of this and just from a historical standpoint looked at an incumbent president with those economic numbers, it would be a no-brainer, but --
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>> but it's difficult for him to stay on message and then also as olivier said biden is out there on the stump talki mindsch votet now. >> and the answer -- the answer to the president's -- to the president's speech is why are your approval numbers never above 50%? >> even in pennsylvania. >> 54% disapprove, even though 54% say they feel better about how the economy is going. it's an interesting split right there. outrage over the new abortion laws is playing out across the country right now. my time is thin, but so is my lawn. now there's scotts thick'r lawn 3-in-1 solution. with a soil improver! seed! and fertilizer to feed! now yard time is our time. this is a scotts yard. ♪ i want it that way... i can't believe it. that karl brought his karaoke machine? ♪ ain't nothing but a heartache... ♪
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welcome back. you're seeing live pictures from several protests going on across the country right now. planned parenthood organizing those demonstrations in places like washington, d.c., austin, texas and than thea, georgia. the protests are aimed at new laws restricting abortion. some are passed and some being debated in several state legislatures. the protesters say these laws are unconstitution a.m. some supporters of these laws say they would relish a court fight about those laws, one of them banning abortion as early as six weeks into pregnancy is in federal court in mississippi today. we're waiting to see how these cases play their way up through the courts. what happened there in mississippi today? >> reporter: well, john, this judge seems deeply skeptical of mississippi's law. it bans abortion when a fetal heartbeat is detected and that can be as early as six weeks. it has an exception for the death of the woman or is there
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if there are severe health implications and it goes after the doctors. only set to take place in july, with you this judge, judge carlton reeves, he pointed out that just a few months ago he struck down a ban at 15 weeks, and the legislature responded here by passion an even more restrictive law. so in court he said, look, this smacks of defiance to this -- to this court, to my earlier ruling, and he was particularly worried about the fact that this law has no exception for rape or incest. in court the supporters -- the critics of the law said, look, this goes against supreme court precedent. many women don't even know whether or not they are pregnant at six weeks, but the state said, look, they have an interest in these kind of regulations and to promote life, and they thought that this law should pass judicial muster. all of this comes as several
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states across the country are introducing similar laws. i think there are 15 or so that have to do with so-called fetal heartbeat. in the future, too, all these courts will be looking to the supreme court. will they take up a case like this that is so contradictory to roe, or would they act in a different way to chip away at the rights, job. that's what we're looking at. >> giant question as we get closer to closer as we get closer to a presidential campaign. we appreciate that update. less turn to the dramatic pictures of the protests. you see demonstrations across the country today, and at least three democratic presidential candidates attended the protests here in washington, d.c. outside of the supreme court. senators amy klobuchar, kirsten gillibrand along with mayor pete buttigieg. here's senator klobuchar. >> this is not just a coincidence that one state did it and then another state. no, this was a plan. you go back to 2016 when the president was running for office and had a town hall meeting. he was asked, well, what should happen if a woman has an
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abortion, and he said she should be punished. >> it is a giant legal question now, and we'll see. there's no question that some of these cases are going to be in the supreme court. which case do they decide and what part of the law do they want to look at but as we wait for that which will take months for learning the new cases, the democrats seem to believe, it's a hard word because of the issue, but it's good ground for them. >> sure, they need women voters and black women voters and the liberal base. caucuses and primaries involve a lot more of the base than they do undecideds or semi-independents so ultimate lit politics of this. >> the way to get the voters to pay attention to the supreme court which is something that's been a winning issue for the republicans in the past. mcconnell said they won the presidency because they made the supreme court an issue. republicans wanted to make abortion a big issue in 2020 to begin, and now democrats feel as
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though they have stronger footing to push back against them with these challenges by the southern states. >> we heard senator klobuchar and let's bring in senator gillibrand and south bend mayor pete buttigieg making this point. >> i don't think it's a coincidence that those are the same states where you see a lot of voter suppression and where it is among hardest places to establish a living wage. all of these things are connected, and i'm trying to bridge together the american majority that believes in higher wages, that believes in making it easier for u.s. citizens to vote and that believes in protecting women's reproductive freedom. >> that's an interesting sort of trying connect the dots approach. >> four months ago democrats were on the defensive with virginia and some of the comments of the governor down there and talking about when life begins and potentially aborting born babies. now it's on completely the opposite foot. republicans are completely on the defensive. >> that's why you saw the president over the weekend
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making clear that he supports the rape, incest and lift mother exception and didn't criticize any of the new state laws. my question is if the republicans saw this coming and some of them did, why did either leaders of the pro-life movement or the national christian organization, christian conservative organization, why didn't the white house political phone call the governor of alabama and governor of mississippi a mississippi and missouri and say president trump asked me to do this and amend the bill. >> that's not how it works between the white house and the states. this is something that's popular in parts of the state. in some parts they do believe it should include the exceptions for it, but you can see how this is playing out and how this is becoming a national issue and you've seen a lot of national republicans break with this, not only including rona mcdaniel and kevin mccarthy. you see so many republicans and the president, of course, though he wasn't specific and didn't name alabama and when given a chance to follow up on it yesterday he did not take that
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live look here tipped in iowa. 2020 democratic hopeful beto o'rouke holding what his campaign counts as his 63rd iowa town hall. that goes a familiar strategy from his 2016 senate campaign, talk to as many voters as you can wherever you can and so far the former texas congressman struggling to catch on in the presidential race. you can see the decline. double digits back when o'rourke jumped back into the race and 4 has in the latest fox pot. the candidate and his team acknowledge they need to change things up a bit, including a national town hall tonight right here on cnn. >> if anything were complimenty the strategy that we've employed from the outset with a little bit more national presence for those who can't come to the town hall in davenport tonight, they are going to be able to watch on tv tomorrow so just including more people into the conversation. >> is that all he needs to do?
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it's a crowded democratic field. it's not a 2018 senate race one-on-one against ted cruz. a lot of democratic candidates are trying to figure out what to do in this environment where early on you have a big front-runner in joe biden, an established candidate like bernie sanders. is that what he needs, a little more national tv mix. >> we know beto has had difficulty with trying to build up his campaign. he ran a very unconventional one when he ran his senate race. he didn't want to use consultants and didn't want to take any advice from others on how to do this, wanted to do it on your own, and he'll realizing when you run for president you can't do that. that's why he's brought in an obama veteran and there was a lot of talk when she fully came on i think a few weeks ago that she would help right the ship. >> and also he's been losing ground to mayor buttigieg. >> right. >> they have been sort of swimming in the same lane. >> the interesting new face lane. >> it's mayor pete, mayor pete is new, and he's had a smashing
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debut on your town hall a couple months ago. he was just on fox doing a town hall. he's getting a lot more attention and beto needs to get further into that lane. >> one way is how do you draw a contrast with other candidates? i'm not sure that this is it yet, but this appears to be the beginning. listen to beto o'rouke saying democrats cannot play nice. >> i'm not naive about the forces that we face. it is not just donald trump. there's no more, i'm trying to use polite language here, you know what i'm talking about when i talk about mitch mcconnell, that if we play nicely by the set rules, we're going to end up with the same results. >> now if you listen to the front-runner joe biden he says, no, actually if i'm president, i'll get mitch mcconnell back to the table and i'll get the republicans to shake, you know, their trump hypnosis, if you will. that to me is -- is that a shot at boyden, or is it just him trying to figure it out? >> could be, but a step away from the message that carried him in the senate race come with me, we are building this thing,
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and that's just not enough in this field, both because it's very crowded and because you've got people who are dropping either detailed policy files like elizabeth warren or who are promising to fight this president in the general and make big sweeping changes with the country. i think it's more re-calibration than a direct shot at joe biden. >> i worked with john cornyn, another texas senator all the time and we used to co-sponsor bills. that's a shift. >> that's a shift. there's still plenty of time. if you want to see how the reset is going watch tonight here on cnn. a live cnn houn at all led by dana bash tonight at 10:00 p.m. coming up next, a private jet, security detail and how much does one want for their demands to come to washington.
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absolutely. it's time to upgrade. (laughter) today we have word that ken cuccinelli the former attorney general is about to take ap job at the department of homeland security. he was a cnn contributor but is no longer in that role. his role in the trump administration, tbd but he's likely not going to be the new immigration czar. that coming after new reporting about a bryce harper like diehl that one trump acolyte wants to come to washington. kris kobach wants a slew of perks. here's the list according to maggie haberman and annie carney of the "new york times." 24/7 access to a government jet. a west wing office, a presidential order to other cabinet officials to follow koback's directives, a promotion
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to homeland security chief by november, no working weekends. koback wants to be home in kansas. we all know there's no place like home. bear with me. that's only halfway through. to serve of as the main spokesman for the white house on immigration, walk-in privileges to the oval office, a staff of seven, including his own personal media handler and an assistant to the president title so he can get the top tier pay day at the white house and finally a security detail if he needs it. >> number three is amazing. he wants every other cabinet official, people who have secretary in their title, to defer to him on all matters of immigration. you know, i don't know who provided this list to "the times" but one wonders whether it was -- >> not a fan. >> it's also just divorced from reality. the idea that he's going to be the face of the immigration policy is not going to work in a
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white house where donald trump is president and stephen miller is his senior immigration adviser, but, of course, the most outrageous might have been the private jet access 24/7 for someone who is just in charge of coordinating immigration policy with the white house. you'll recall health and human services secretary, former, tom price, was forced out of the administration over his use of private jets, so i think people are tired of people seeing in the trump administration, in the cabinet, and that's even something that the president himself did not like when tom price was accused of that, so the idea that he can make these demands and get this job was so laughable, and i think this was one of the most enjoyed stories in the west wing yesterday. >> literally. >> everybody click your heels. there's no place like home and maybe he should just stay there. thanks for joining us for "inside politics." phil mattingly is in for brianna keilar. he starts right now. have a great afternoon.
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i'm phil mattingly in for brianna keilar. under way right now, it's been a mystery, but cnn is now reporting why robert mueller hasn't yet testified before congress. stand by for those details. an infliction point? tensions flare behind closed doors as democrats push a hesitant speaker to start impeachment proceedings. plus, the risk from iran is real and remains high, according to the trump administration and just moments from now they will have to prove it to skeptical lawmakers. and it's one of the most epic cover letters you will ever see. mark my words on this. the list of demands one candidate gave to be the
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