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to impeach or not to impeach? it is a question dividing house democrats. why some lawmakers say the time to push against president trump is now. thousands hit the streets across the u.s., protesting a wave of anti-abortion legislation. the outrage and the legal questions at the heart of it, could land the issue at the supreme court. and a serious question about housing prompts a confused answer about chocolate cookies. one of the awkward moments on capitol hill. the housing secretary ben carson. welcome to our viewers joining us from here in the united states, and all around the world. i'm rosemary church.
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and this is "cnn newsroom." a new report in "the washington post," is sure to embolden democrats who wants to see donald trump's tax returns. it cites a draft memo, that says the internal revenue service must hand over tax returns unless the president cites executive privilege. house democrats have subpoenaed the president's excommunications director, hope hicks, in their obstruction probe of mr. trump. they want to ask her about a misleading statement about donald trump jr.'s meeting with a lawyer. they have also subpoenaed annie donaldson, the one-time chief of staff to former white house counsel don mcgahn. that committee faced an empty
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chair on tuesday, as mcgahn defied a subpoena for him to appear. and that's fueling calls to start impeachment proceedings against the president. manu raju has our report. >> reporter: one of president trump's closest confidents served with a subpoena. hope hicks, the former communications director, compelled to provide records and testimony to the house judiciary committee next month, about the potential obstruction of justice at the white house. and the committee serving a subpoena to annie donaldson, who served as chief of staff to don mcgahn. but the white house has resisted on all fronts. and former officials cannot be compelled to testify about their conversations with the president. that's prompted more democrats to say the only recourse is impeachment. >> nobody runs for congress with the idea i want to go there and start impeachment. but i think that's what it's come to. >> reporter: tonight, there's a
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growing rift in the democratic caucus to launch an impeachment inquiry. the pressure building across the caucus. >> the impeachment process is going to be inevitable. just a question of when, not if. >> to freshmen. >> do you think it's time to move forward with impeachment? >> i do. we can't be scared of elections. >> reporter: and some scriptic are softening their position. >> reporter: are you there yet? >> i'm getting there. i think what the president has done has put us in a position where we cannot get any information to do the oversight that we need to do. >> reporter: but the most important person, still not convinced. >> house speaker, are you under pressure to impeach the president, from your caucus? >> no. >> reporter: that's house speaker nancy pelosi, who
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believes her caucus, should pursue their agenda. pelosi argued that the strategy is getting results, pointing to a court ruling that could force the trump accounting firm to turn over financial records to the house oversight committee. many of her allies agree. >> you don't think it makes sense to open an impeachment inquiry right now? >> why would we open an impeachment inquiry if we're winning? >> reporter: today, democrats did not get what they wanted. don mcgahn was a no-show, after the president directed him not to comply with the subpoena. >> we will not allow the president to prevent people from hearing from this witness. >> reporter: the house judiciary committee has served subpoenas to two other officials. hope hicks, someone who has been close to president trump for years.
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as well as annie donaldson, a former chief of staff to don mcgahn in the white house counsel's office. the democrats want testimony and reports by june. they want the information as part of their probe into obstruction of justice. expect the white house to push back. if the white house does fight the subpoenas, that will only add to the calls here in capitol hill, among the democrats, for impeachment proceedings to begin. that will prompt nancy pelosi to deal with the restlessness in her caucus, something she will have to deal with on wednesday, behind closed doors, as she meets with the white house caucus, and expect talk of impeachment to come up. let's bring in michael sheer. he is a season season political analyst and white house correspondent for "the new york times." great to have you with us. >> sure. happy to be here. >> let's start with the president's legal team, appealing a federal judge's ruling, that orders mr. trump's
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accounting firm to turn over his financial records. the initial ruling was a blow to the president. but this appeal process is going to take a lot of time. mr. trump's stonewalling tactics are working for him. and there's little the democrats can do about it. >> right. in is an example. it's a case of the good and the bad for democrats. on the other hand, there's some indication that they have -- they may have the better case in a lot of the instances, at least at the lower court level. in terms of convincing judges that the president doesn't have right to withhold documentation and testimony from his people. as you say, the american legal system is a slow up with, in these cases.
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it goes true an appel lot system that ends at the supreme court. from the president's perspective, there's a clock ticking. all he has to do is delay all of this until the election, about 18 months away. once that happens, assuming he wins re-election, a lot of this goes away. we're learning that a draft confidential memo said it's monday doir fandatory mandatory, to turn over the tax returns. this comes as the irs and treasury department refuse to hand them over to do this. what does this controversial memo indicate to you, given that treasury secretary steve
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mnuchin, says he's not authorized to disclose the returns. saying that request lacks a legitimate legislative purpose. >> right. this is not surprising. there's often internal draft issues like this. the memo was drafted by lawyers who worked for the irs, who were grappling, if the democrats go after the president's taxes, what's the legal argument we can make? and the lawyers concluded that there was really no legal articlement to withhold the president's taxes from the committees. that said, it's not finding. this case, mnuchin, the
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secretary of the treasury, which is oversees the irs, clearly made a political decision. i don't think anyone doubts on the decision he dame to. we don't have to hand over the taxes. a political decision. the revelation that the memo exists, does put pressure on him. i suspect that barring any other developments -- he clearly ignored the advice when it was a private piece of advice. i suspect he will continue to ignore it. >> it works, right? >> the president of the united states does not want to hand his taxes over. what mnuchin and other officials have shown, they are operating in the interests of their boss. >> another effort to stonewall
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white house counsel, don mcgahn, he followed instructions from his former boss. he failed to appear. what are the legal famiramificas to appear? and if it pushes white house democrats to seriously impeaching the president, doesn't that play right into the hands of the white house? they want that to happen, don't they? >> they really do. you get the sense that the white house has been egging the democrats on. please, impeach me. they conclude it would be a controversial move to be divisive and make trump look like the victim in all of this. i think don mcgahn is in a tough spot. he's being tugged between two co-equal branches of government.
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being given orders by two branches of government. the oddity, someone in that situation might actually show up, the hearing for the subpoena. but simply say, i can't say anything. the fact he didn't show up is one of the things that angered democrats the most. and the next step is the court system. that will go to the legal system in the court. that takes a long time. it's more like months or years than days or weeks. >> it's the white house making the system work for it. michael shear, thank you for joining us and
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analys analysis. the white house mazz behas putting out mixed messages about iran. it is trying to convince u.s. lawmakers it has a strategy that will work to diffuse growing tensions. recent actions have deterred attacks on u.s. troops. take a listen. >> our biggest focus is to prevent iranian miscoalculation. we don't want the situation to escalate. we're not about going to war. lawmakers agree. but democrats are not lining up behind the president. listen. >> the iranians are no closer to
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talking than ever before. they do not seem to be backing down from a satandpoint of military provocation. you have to ask, whether our strategy is working. >> for more, nic robertson is live in abu dhabi. the white house, administration trying to convince u.s. lawmakers it has a strategy when it comes to iran. is that message being received ov oversea overseas? >> reporter: i think the messages are still mixed. when you listen to what the lawmakers are saying, there's no thoughtful, joined-up strategy. getting into a situation with aroone where the goals can be achieved. not indicating that they are president trump or anyone in the
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administration at the moment. the conclusion being drawn right now, is this a tense situation, it's in a holding pattern. but the united states hasn't articulated yet a clear way forward. what they're doing, it appears, is standing up the evidence. it does pass the sniff test of the lawmakers, that iran was responsible for the attack of those ships off of the coast of the united arab emirates. it was responsible for the attack on the oil pipeline in saudi arabia. beyond that, however, that's where the divergence begins. it is a tense situation. both sides with the possibility of miscalculation. but no clear way to get to the next step. not just de-escalation. but a path forward to achieve the united states goals here. >> we'll watch to see if tension can be diffused with this.
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neutrogena®. ♪ abortion rights supporters rallied across the u.s. on tuesday, in a show of opposition from laws that want to restrict the procedure. kristen holmes has more from washington. >> reporter: to texas, to the steps of the supreme court in washington, thousands of abortion rights protesters rallying against a wave of strict abortion laws passed
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recently in red states. >> these abortion bans are popping up all over the country. women and people seeking abortion have had enough. >> reporter: alabama enacting the strictest abortion rights in the country. that would make it illegal in all cases, including rape and incest. the law says you doctors can face up to 99 years in prison. other states including georgia, mississippi and ohio, enacting a so-called heartbeat law. saying that abortions become illegal once a heartbeat is detected. these laws are facing a litany of legal charges and many designed to take on roe v. wade. hundreds of people are calling health centers. not sure if we're open to provide care. >> we need them to know that these laws are not in effect yet. and planned parenthood will be
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fighting with everything that we have. our doors are open. >> reporter: protistesters here and lawmakers, leading to a showdown across the country. in mississippi, a federal judge is expressing skepticism about a state law that bans abortion as early as six weeks into pregnancy, and makes no exceptions for rape and incest. he is considering arguments to ban the law, which is slated to go into effect on july 1st. last year, he struck down a law that banned abortions after 15 weeks of pregnancy. riva martin joins me from los angeles. always great to see you. protests erupted across the
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united states on tuesday. a judge expressed anger and skepticism over his state's anti-abortion law, particularly taking issue with the push for no exceptions for rape or inc t incest. he's yet to rule on that. but women have a constitutional right to end a pregnancy, prior to visibility, with roe versus wade. but that right is under threat right now. what will it take for that precedent to be overturned in the skoufrupreme court? >> you know, rosemary, states being emboldened. legislature bodies being embolden. and enacting the restrictive laws. not right banning abortion, but making the process restrictive. the law in mississippi, redefining what fetus viability. like you cannot have an abortion
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after six weeks. as you indicated in mississippi and alabama, stating that even in the cases of rape and incest, making abortion in those cases illegal in those states. and all of this is being done for the sole purpose of getting a case before the supreme court, with the thought being to overturn roe v. wade. that's made abortion legal. has affirmed that abortion is a part of a right to privacy, a right that's embedded in the constitution. we see the attack on women's right to privacy. not just in mississippi, but alabama, missouri and ohio and others. passing these anti-abortion laws. >> right. of course, critics say these abortion bans are unconstitutional, as you point
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out. that's what this is all about. the anti-abortion states want to get these anti-abortion laws before the supreme court and they'll do that by triggering the fact -- the trigger is that they're unconstitutional. once that happens, talk to us about what this judge in mississippi is likely to rule? he habit ysn't yet. >> what we know about the mississippi law, it is due to take effect july 1st. the judge in the case and the hearing today, was very skeptical. and in fact, it was very angry about the arguments that were being made in support of the law. he indicated that a law that made abortions illegal at 15 weeks, had been struck down. you know, he had struck down that law. and now, they were back with even a more restrictive law. this judge expressed skepticism
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about the constitutionality of this law, in light of roe v. wade. and he made it clear. look, this is all about trying to get to the supreme court. with the hopes that gorsuch and brett kavanaugh will be the votes that the conservatives need to get a vote that would overturn roe v. wade. it's all happening in plain sight. the court was very clear that he knew what the purpose was. i think he will come back soon, with the decision. that decision will be to say this law is unconstitutional. at which point, we can expect appeals. that's what anti-abortion supporters are hoping for, is that these laws will be struck down at the district court level. they will move through the appellate process and make their way all the way to the united states supreme court for a revisit, a challenge of roe versus wade. >> areva martin, thank you so much. we'll watch this story and see
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what happens next. we have an update to a story we brought you last week. an accused somali war criminal, who revealed a driver for uber and lyft, has been ordered to pay $500,000 to the man he reportedly tortured. a civil court believed otherwise. he is unable to pay. he lost his job as a ride share driver after his past as an army commander was exposed. the western world has been saying the name of japan's minister already. they want us to say abe shinzo. for almost a century and a half, english speakers have been saying japanese names the other way around. the prime minister's name should
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be written abe shinzo. it will take many of us a long time. we'll get it right in the end. democrat beto o'rourke, takes the stage for a cnn town hall. just ahead, his plan for addressing the immigration crisis in the united states. it's time for our memorial day sale on the sleep number 360 smart bed. it senses your movement and automatically adjusts to keep you both comfortable. save $1,000 on the new queen sleep number 360 special edition smart bed, only $1,799. only for a limited time. but one blows them allmany moisturizers... out of the water. hydro boost with hyaluronic acid to plump skin cells so it bounces back... neutrogena® and try our hydrating makeup.
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president trump. don mcgahn defied a subpoena to testify on tuesday. iran's foreign minister says the u.s. is playing a dangerous game. he spoke to cnn in an exclusive interview. this has the u.s. has sent warships to the middle east. they say they shared recent intelligence about iranian threats. in jakarta, six people are dead and two others injured in protests of election results. police had to use tear gas to disperse demonstrators. his opponent believes that there was widespread cheating and is vowing to challenge the result. the field of democrats may be getting bigger. but so are joe biden's poll
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numbers. a new survey has biden topping his newest rival by nearly 20 points. among democrats who say they are paying allot of attention, biden does better. elizabeth warren has 15%. burn sernie sanders drops down . beto o'rourke hopes to reboot his campaign, starting with a town hall in iowa. he thinks that congress should start impeachment proceedings against donald trump. >> we saw 400,000 apprehensions at our southern border last year. in the second year of the george w. bush administration, there were 1.6 million. and those came from the triangle
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countries of central america. and they were fleeing the deadliest places on the planet and making a 2,000-mile journey, much of it by foot, some of it atop a train known as the beast. in an attempt to follow our asylum laws. we met those asylum seekers under this administration, with cages for the kids. and we deported the mothers back to the countries from which they fled. you ask what i would do differently? i would never separate another family when they come here at their most vulnerable and desperate moment. and i will make every effort, and we will spare no expense to reunite those families. let's do this together. let's not do it as democrats or independents or republicans. let's do this as americans. let's rewrite our immigration
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laws in our own image. let's reflect our values, our reality. the best interest and traditions of this country, that's comprised of immigrants and asylum speakers. and fear the dreamers of deportation, by making them citizens in their own country. >> so far this year, customs and border protections has apprehended 50,000 unaccompanied children along the southwest border. would a president o'rourke grant those children asylum? >> if they meet the test for credible fear. they cannot return to their home country for fear of being attacked, being raped, being killed, the answer is yes. that's who we are, as a country. the beneficiary is not just the child. it's all of us. everything that kid will do over the course of their life. the genius to be revealed will reveal all of us.
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it will benefit the united states of america as it has. that cannot be the solution in and of itself. we need to invest in the solutions in the northern triangle. this president wants to cut $500 million. it's all we give to the three countries. if you put it in perspective, he wants to spend $30 billion on a 2,000-mile wall. he wants to cut that. i would double it and focus it on violence prevention, so no mother has to make the decision to send her child on that solution. they can help the countries come together. and make sure that we have partners in the western hemisphere going for it. that's the wisest, best use of our diplomacy and our resources in this hemisphere. >> beto o'rourke there. justin amash has also come out strongly against donald trump, saying the mueller report provides clear evidence the president obstructed justice.
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while his fellow republicans have turned against him, his voters back home are split. acle athena jones has our report. >> reporter: justin amash isn't worried about his political future. >> i feel confident in my district. >> reporter: despite drawing a primary challenger, after becoming the first gop member of congress to call for his impeachment. the break with his party, prompting the president to label amash a loser. >> personally, i think he's not much. >> reporter: here in his district, some are praising the five-term congressman. >> our congressman, he kind of laid the outline of impeachment. and trump did obstruct justice.
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i think our president is acting like a mob boss. >> i think the impeachment process should begin. by not doing something, we're sending a message to people that may not be paying as much attention, that it's not as serious. there's more investigation to be done, that it's not as serious an issue as i think it is. >> reporter: meanwhile, michelle, like many of the supporters we met, disagrees with amash. she has a problem with the conduct but doesn't think he crossed the legal line. >> i think his actions and his verbiage were inappropriate. but perhaps not impeachable. >> reporter: another supporter told us she used to support amash. but his latest actions cost him her vote. amash was a founding mebl of the freedom caucus, a group that has defended the president. but he was the first republican to express support for an independent investigation into
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russian interference in the 2016 election. one thing he may have going for him? even voters that don't support amash, see him as honest as principled. >> i think he's speaking his mind here, which he often does. much of the time i don't agree with him. but i'm not sure this is political calculation on amash's part, as much as his honest perceptions of the mueller report. >> athena jones reporting there. and the conservative house freedom caucus, formally condemned amash but stopped short of kicking him out of the organization. in the long running battle to settle on britain's exit from the european union, theresa may announced a new brexit deal on tuesday. she is offering a chance of a second referendum and a customs union with the e.u. she plans to bring it to a volt in parliament next month. but it's clear that many don't like it.
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>> the revised deal will deliver on the result of the referendum. only by voting can m.p.s provide the vehicle that parliament needs to determine how we leave the e.u. if m.p.s vote against the second reading of this bill, they are voting to stop brexit. >> we can't support this bill. it's basically a rehash of what was discussed before. and it doesn't make any fundamental moves on alignment or the customs union or the protection of rights, particularly in relation to consumer rights and the food we'll eat in the future. there's a question of the deliverability of it. the prime minister has indicated she's going to leave office. many of her own m.p.s have said, they cannot support the bill. i can't see how it will get through parliament anyway. >> jeremy corbyn there.
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conservative brexitees and label moderates all suggest the deal passing are slim. tornadoes and powerful storstorm s spark heavy slooding in the midwest. dozens of people had to be rescued. we'll show you how bad it was. plus, a new study says melting ice sheets could be causing sea levels to rise much faster than previously thought. the danger for coastal cities. hey allergy muddlers... achoo! ...do your sneezes turn heads? try zyrtec... ...it starts working hard at hour one... and works twice as hard when you take it again the next day. zyrtec muddle no more.
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an animal eventually jumped out. the chase ended when the driver slammed into another vehicle and tried to runaway. the driver was tackled by police and taken into custody. a large part of the central united states is reeling after dangerous tornadoes and heavy rain. oklahoma was hard-hit. the threat of weather that had the power to kill forced many to be evacuated. as ed lavandera reports, things have cleared. the skies have cleared out and the sun on tuesday afternoon, started to come out. quite a change from what we've seen in central oklahoma. on monday, this massive storm system spawned nearly 20 tornados. that turned into massive widespread flooding from central oklahoma to eastern oklahoma. we're still seeing hours after the storm system has passed through, we are still seeing
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scenes like this, where a small creek out of the water, spilling out of the small creek, overtaking this roadway. out in the distance, we can see a pickup truck stranded in the high waters. that's what emergency officials are urging people to be cautious about these types of situations. even though it stopped raining, that the water is trying to make its way out of fields. the water covers a lot of roadways. it's been a dramatic few days here. springtime in this part of the united states, brings tornados. we saw that in large numbers. and the flooding situations caused dozens of high-water rescues. dramatic rescues. one family said they had gone to bed the night before the storms came. it rained so much overnight, when they woke up, they found themselves sitting on an island surrounded by water. ed lavandera, cnn, oklahoma.
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another round of severe weather is brewing in the central plains of the united states. pedram jef haravaheri has all o details. >> i was looking into how many tornadoes we have seen since last friday, across the u.s. 130 have been reported. 32 came down in the past 24 hours. if you are tuned in for outside the united states, looking at this and thinking, is this pretty unusual? not across the u.s. in fact, u.s. gets about 1,100 tornadoes every year. much of it happening in the spring season. the second-highest total for any nation in the world is canada, at 100. that 130 since friday alone would be enough to be second place on a global scale. it speaks to the significance of severe weather across our planet. you take a look. another round of it for wednesday afternoon. it stretches from kansas city, points southward, into joplin.
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that's where we think the heart of the activity will be brewing. but the threat will be less for tornados on wednesday. a brief break with this. less rotation. less thunderstorms to produce tornadoes. a wind and hail threat for wednesday, before we see a spike back in the activity come thursday and friday. go back towards the western u.s., it's all about the wintry weather. more on that momentarily. where it's coming in the thunderstorms, some heavy rainfall that's led to significant flooding across this region. the other story, near-record to possibly record heat going in on the holiday weekend, across the southern united states. temps urging some 15 to 30 degrees above average going into this weekend. places like atlanta climb into the middle 90s. by friday, saturday, sunday, not depicted here, all-time records, close to 100 degrees for portions of the southern u.s. these are the hottest tempts for the respective cities. those could be broken across the
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region. an incredible heat wave in place across the raarea of the united states. back toward portions of the east, cool air, in places like las vegas, 63 degrees. a wintry weather round, snowshowers back in the forecast, into parts of the sierra nevadas, into the rockies. decent snowfall coming down. the trend expected to continue for another week here, where we have major cool air out west and big-time eat across the east. >> a mixed bag there, pedram. thanks for giving us a heads up. appreciate it. here's some sobering news. a new study details how sea levels are rising much more than previously thought. researchers say global sea levels could rise by more than two meters by the end of the century. mainly due to the mielting of ie streets of green land and
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antarctica. the authors say it is the worst-case scenario but not impossible. and it would wreak havoc on the planet. it would displace nearly 200 million people. the loss of land would be three-times the size of california. and it would destroy critical areas of food production. let's hope we don't get there. he's the u.s. secretary of housing and urban development. but some basic terms seem to elude ben carson at a capitol hill hearing. >> you know what an reo? >> an oreo? >> not an oreo. an reo. they have businesses to grow customers to care for lives to get home to they use stamps.com print discounted postage for any letter any package any time right from your computer all the amazing services of the post office only cheaper
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children from being with their families then to a homeless status. what's going to happen with these children? have you thought this program through? >> well, maybe what will happen with them is you and congress will do your job and solve the problem. >> well, sir, it is your problem now. >> do you believe the substandard public housing conditions pose a risk to ten t tenants physical, mental or emotional health. >> you know the answer to that. >> yes or no? >> you know the answer. >> yes or no? i know the answer. >> reclaiming my time. >> you don't get to do that. >> the time belongs to the gentlelady. >> carson appeared to be unaware of housing terminology, leaving a lawmaker to explain it to him. >> are you familiar with omwi and what it is? >> with who? >> omwi. >> amway? >> omwi. come on, mr. secretary. i asked you this when you were here last year.
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and you asked me to be nice to you. office of minority women and inclusion. do you have an omwi director? do you work with the omwi director? >> i cannot give you the name. >> why is fha, to give a term we can understand, lousy at services mortgages? >> i have not had any discussions about that particular issue. but i will look it up. >> as you look it up, i would also like you to get back to me, if you don't mind, to explain the disparity in reo rates. do you know what an reo is? >> oreo -- >> not an oreo. >> real estate. >> what does the "o" stand for? >> organization. >> owned. real estate owned. that's what happens when a property goes to foreclosure. and fhos go to foreclosure, not
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to loss mittatiigationmitigatio comparable loans. >> carson tried to make a joke about the reo exchange. he tweeted he was enjoying a post-hearing snack of oreos and would send some to porty. porter would have like serious answers. >> he sent a family-sized box of oreos to our office. and while i was pleased to receive correspondents from him, i was hoping to receive answers. i look forward to receiving answers. >> there you have it. thanks for your company this hour. i'm rosemary church. remember to connect with me anytime on twitter. we'd love to hear from you. "early start" is next for our viewers in the united states. for everyone else, stay tuned for more news with max foster in london. have a great day.
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