president and get lots of press, and i think that's what happened. >> do you think he likes being president. >> i don't think he likes being president at all. i think he liked winning the presidency. he likes to win. >> you're going to hear more from howard stern on ac 360 later tonight. 8:00 p.m. eastern the full interview. one hour long, tomorrow night 10:00 p.m. eastern. erin brunner et outfront starts right now. outfront next, nasty, a war of words between the president and the house speaker on a whole new level tonight. what is it about trump and pelosi? plus pelosi claims she didn't need to impeach to get what she wants. the former counsel to the watergate special counsel says she is dead wrong why. the heit fight for 2020. ohio congressman running for. . soundsing like trump too. he is my guest. let's go outfront. good evening i'm erin burnett. outfront vicious and personal. president trump and house speaker nancy pelosi in a war of words. words nar shocking considering

we are talking about the heads of the executive and legislative branchs of the united states of america. president trump just a short time ago questioning the most powerful democrat in america's fitness. >> it was sad when i watched nancy all moving -- the movement and the hands and the craziness. and i watch it. that's by the way a person that's got some problems. >> the president attacking pelosi's extraordinary press conference. but there is something about pelosi, because the president who has claimed when he is hit he hits back 100 times marreder -- he has said that -- well he sure didn't. in fact his attacks paled in comparison no pelosi's needling of the president again and again. questioning whether he is fit for office. >> i winner that his family or his administration or staff would have an intervention for the good of the country. this is not behavior that is rises to the dignity of the office of the president of the

united states. >> the comments almost suggest you are concerned about his well being. >> i am. >> an intervention, concerned about his well being, these are serious charges. they're not just casual insults of a president by the speaker of the house of representatives. and pelosi kept going. slamming trump's ability to run the white house and making him look like a child. >> i can only think that he wasn't up to the task. i pray for the the president of the united states. the president qb again, stormed out i think what -- first, pound the table, walk out the door. what? another temper tantrum. actually ardantly pray for the president. because we need -- sometimes when we're talking to him he is -- he agrees. and then i said one time who is in charge here? because you agree and then all of a sudden something changes. what goes on there? who is in charge? >> you have to wonder now truly

ardent the prayers are. look the hits were relentless. how did trump fight back? first he sent out the staff to counter the temper tantrum thing to say no, no he was calm. >> kellyanne what was my temperament yesterday. >> very calm, no temper tantrum. >> what was my attitude walking in did i scream. >> no, you were very calm and very direct. >> what was my attitude yesterday at the meeting? >> she is right. kellyanne you were very calm. >> okay. well, then after he put each of them -- i mean can you imagine going actually you were a little out of control, mr. president my boss. then he came oh out with the classic or just as bizarre as ever line. >> i'm an extremely stable genius. >> the stable genius line. set pelosi off as if she was waiting for a tweet. she tweet add short time ago

when the stable genius starts acting presidential i'm happy to work on fraz and trade and other issues it zpliet the attacks that you would think was part of a fiction alstory and i told you and it's all fact. pelosi says she is not ready to go down the path of impeachment. >> the president is engaged in a cover-up. it's in plain sight. it cannot be denied. ignoring subpoenas, obstruction of justice. yes, niece could be impeachable offenses. we can get the facts to the american people through our investigation. it may take us to place that's unavoidable in terms of impeachment or not. but we are not at that place. >> we're not at that place. because supposedly i guess we are still praying. abby phillip outfront live outside the white house. abby, the president clearly was flustered by speaker pelosi today. >> erin it does seem that nancy pelosi has gotten under president trump's skin, almost to the point president trump

seemed to struggle to find some kind of nickname. he tried out crazy nancy but said he shouldn't do that because he has already called bernie sanders crazy. it's a bit of a sign that president trump is figuring out how to deal with in person who seems to be maneuvering around him aboutman ufrpg him in certain situations. but what our sources are telling us this is about is this is the president's growing frustration with all of the inquiries happening on kboil that nancy pelosi is basically leading the charge for. the president feels like as the inquiries get closer to his personal finances, his family, they are encroaching on things that he thought were off limits. he said today to reporters that the democrats are trying to impeach him, trying to get rid. of him for 2020. in order to do that they are trying to attack him by a thousand stabs. a thousand stabs is way he put it. so president trump is the airing this frustration to his friends and his to allies. and i think having a difficult

time figuring out how to best confront that. and he is fed up and told nancy pelosi i'm not going to do anything with you and the other democrats legislative will you until the investigations end. now, the trouble is pelosi seems to have made it clear that she is not going to accede to that ultimatum. so i think what we saw at the white house this afternoon was the president's frustration bubbling over. he took some of the same attacks that he- nancy pelosi lobbed against him and fired them right back at her. that's another clear sign president trump is a little bit rattled by the standoff with pelosi. >> thank you very much abby. and i want to go to a kmkt mo has been calling for impeachment proceedings against the preponderate don beyer. congressman thank you for your time. let me start with the back and forth which as i said it reads like a fiction or comedy except it's real and because it's real it's disturbing. do you think the speaker's comments about president trump were appropriate? >> oh, i do. and i know how frustrated she

was and the other democrats in that meeting. we would like to get to an infrastructure bill and have the meeting just a few weeks ago where any theoretically had an agreement for $2 trillion and we would like to get to agreement on the usmca, the nafta part 2. when people like nancy pelosi and richey neil and hoyer goes in and the first thing he depose is wraps his hands on the table and walks out. it's incredibly frustrating when you govern and try to legislate. >> the president retaliated to the words. used the words cover-up and temper tantrum. ardentally praying. and he retaliated. >> snes a mess. look let's face it. she doesn't understand it and they feel she is disintegrated before the rush. >> crazy nancy i've been watching her and i have been watching her for a long period of time. she is not the same person. she is lost it.

>> so she is calling for an intervention because ostensibly he is losing his mind. he says she is losing her mind in an incredibly derogatory manner is what he said okay because of what she said is this all now okay at the same level. >> it's not okay. it's laughable to think that nancy pelosi is falling apart. i think she is at the height of her skills. i've never seen had her more focused, concentrated. she has a difficult battle right now. because the on the one manned democrats control the house. we have a huge agenda some of which we passed. a lot of things we want to do to move the nation forward. prescription drug prices, the cost of health care, infrastructure, cleaning up corruption. at the same time, she leads us -- leads all americans in trying to hold the president accountable for many of his lawless actions. i mean she is right on the cover-up. we've been trying to get his tax returns a couple months now. and the 1924 law is driflt

clear. we a memo a week ago saying mnuchin is not turning over the tax returns. we've been trying to follow up on mueller's ten instances of obstruction of justice. he didn't diet because he said you can't diet a sitting president and left it to us. >> he didn't leave it up to anyone which is a separate issue about mueller and whether there was a mistake about the lack of the clarity. but that's why we are in the position. but let me ask you, the speaker said the president needs an intervention, talks about a cover-up. and of course you all could intervene, right with impeachment which you support. is she talking out of both sides of her mouth. trying to make you calm down would be, hold on trust me even though she is not doing what you think she should be doing. >> i don't agree she is not doing. -- i think the four leading chairman, judiciary and the intelligence and et cetera are doing everything they can within the law to get the right people to testify, the right documents. so what speaker pelosi has done is said we are taking this step

by step. i've joined a group of maybe two dozen democrats saying begin the inquiry of impeachment is probably the next right step. but we obviously will call for it but it's up to her to decide when we move forward. >> you respect when she won't do it. because, you know, she is not doing. i know you're saying you need to. she did give a reason why fallout today. let me play it for you. >> the president's behavior in erms it of his obstruction of justice, the things that he is doing, it's clear, it's in plain sight. it cannot be denied. ignoring subpoenas, obstruction of justice. yes, these could be impeachable offenses. now i do think that impeachment is a very divisive place to go in our country. and what we can get the facts to the american people through our investigation. it may take us to a place that is unavoidable in terms of impeachment or not. but we are not at that place. >> i mean, that's pretty definitive we're not at that

place. you say it's the next step. did she make you change your mind and back off or do you believe smes ready to go there. >> i don't know she is ready to go there. maybe i'm a little ahead although that's pennsylvania value judgment on being ready to do the impeachment inquiry. but i dpo respect her deep desire not to further divide the country. and it's a really tenuous balance and a judgment call between fulfilling our responsibility to defend the constitution, not let a lawless president set the precedent for years to come and also try to bring the country back together. this is the first president in our history who has made his whole political strategy of dividing us rather than bringing us together. >> congressman beyer appreciate your time thanks, sir. >> thanks, erin. next pelosi mass a history of going after trump even when questioning his manhood her word, not mine. what is about her that gets under his skin. plus president trump calls his former secretary of state dumb as a rock whapz to his promise

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>> i can only think that he wasn't up to the task of figuring out the difficult choices of how to cover the cost of what the important infrastructure legislation that we had talked about three weeks before. >> you know, then there was the intervention, because he is ostensibly losing it. this was a crazydy. it's not the first time pelosi has gotten personal in december she told a group of lawmakers according to a source that the border wall was a man hood think as if man hood could be associated with him. outfront now cnn political commenter joan walsh analyst stewart. former communications director for ted cruz. if i said to you guys that that would have come out of on this show. you would say ha had not up to the task, a manhood thing. here is the bfl. pelosi successfully and effectively riles him up.

>> she does, knowing exactly what she is doing. sometimes i'm reluctant to be dependered but it's like she has dealt with toddlers and raised children. and she has an instinct for getting under his skin. pelosi has been in a little bit of trouble with mor caucus. there are -- there is a rising number of people at least in the last few days called for impeachment. now they are walking it back. but when he attacks her, when he comes at her it strengthens her hand. and she really, you know -- she basically called for intervention today. she has been making cracks about his competence and mental health. >> yes. >> she will take her remarks -- i started to say well the intervention is impeachment, speaker pelosi. but when he attacks her, her members have her back. >> they did, right. those for impeachment. you heard one. now they are trying to act that they're all in line. sh she succeeded at that. effective in that regards. alice, let's play, a few of the

other digs over time. just so let everyone know this isn't a one-day thing from the speaker. here she is talking about the president. >> maybe it was lack of confidence on his part that he really couldn't match the greatness of the challenge that we have. and the president may not know this, but hawaii is part of the united states of america. maybe he doesn't realize that. >> the president. what do you say, alice she went straight there calling him a toddler. doesn't know hawaii is a state. lacks confidence. that's drill, drill, drill. is it appropriate. >> it's not appropriate. but this is the world that we're in right now. and, look, a war of words is easy. but the battle for bipartisanship in congress is hard. and unfortunately lack of getting anything done is the collateral damage that we have here. and look, nancy pelosi is

successful if her agenda or if her objective is to get under the president's skin. check the box she is doing it. and also as she is seeing if her object severally and get the democratic caucus and rally the progressive wing. check the box. but if her object seven moving legislation she is not doing anything on that. that's the goal. to be successful in in war of words both sides need to realize, okay we've done that, the game is over. let's work together for the american people because that's what they are there for. >> respectfully nef passed dozens of pieces of legislation. mitch mcconnell won't take it up. but she has gotten everything done she said they would do. passed voting rights reform. passed campaign finance reform. passed all sorts of things, measures strengthening the affordable care act she is dlifrpg. >> yeah. >> it's not going anywhere. >> but she has the majority you don't need bipartisanship to do that. >> but to say she is neglect fog

legislate while she talks about the president that isn't fair. >> okay can i ask you. mali malik nea wrote about the battle between the two nastiness and trump who clearly respects, fears pelosi because of her power we are wealth and family lineage is her most effective target. jo, what is it about her, age, gender. >> he has no problems slamming women, people, older people like himself but it's hard are for him with her. >> well, i think nea is on to something in terms of prestige. he always wants the good opinion of people who have power, despite all the things he says about the failing, losing "new york times," which is neither, he really wants to be respected by his local paper of record. when she became the speaker in 2007 he sent her a nice note.

she is somebody who represents a certain level of prestige, a certain level of accomplishment. he would like her. >> approval. >> her approval, yes. and he can't get it with the way he is acting. >> so alice, then you have this issue the nicknames. today he called her crazy unanimous but said i can't do it because bernie is the crazy niem this is the guy of like nims little marco, lying ted. bully people has been a go-to tactic yet. >> nancy pelosi, or unanimous as i call her -- the ms 13 lover, nancy pelosi. we've got to stop crying chuck schumer. and nancy pelosi. >> i don't want to say crazy nancy if i say that you're saying 80s copy of copy of crazy bernie and bernie is crazy. >> that was at the end there alice why can't he get a

nickname for her. >> the internal focus group going on in his head with the branding is still at work. he is fine tuning what he is working on. look, i was the victim of his branding with ted cruz. ted cruz came out with a brand trusted and when ted became a huge challenge for donald trump, then he came out with lying ted. and nancy pelosi is somewhat he has tried to work with, tried to get along and tried to move legislation along when she became a challenge as she is now and today she questioned his mental stability and his fitness and saying he had a temper tantrum that's when he said crazy unanimous. he may tweaking that he may find something else. >> it goes with what -- what offended him. >> his branding is kicking in. >> which is interesting. thank you both very much. and next the trump administration ignoring subpoenas, refusing to turn over documents. so will these words come back to haunt president trump? >> you know when you delete something or when you don't

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we had you on the very issue. it's hat ert of everything, right, phil. you have democrats the house speaker saying i'm not sure we get more information by instituting a impeachment inquiry as her defense of why they should have the variouses subpoenas out there argued individually. she says they'll get there that way. don't need the formal proceeding you disagree explain why. >> i disagree. i think she can't get there as confident just doing the scatter shot hearings by the different oversight committees. i think there is a much -- a greater likelihood that when this battle ultimately gets to the supreme court -- and i'm sure that's where trump expects it to go -- he is going to have a stronger argument with the pro trump conservative justices, including two that he has appointed -- in battling congress's right to get general oversight subpoenas enforced as contrasted with the battle that

he would have in convincing the court to get away with not complying with an impeachment inquiry, which is what i've been recommending for a good long time. >> yes, you certainly have. so laura, what's your reaction, impeachment inquiry obviously opens the door to frgt, right. >> um-hum >> in one fell swop, plus obviously hearings and a very public proc scatter shot situation. >> technically you shouldn't need impeachment inquiry in order to have the oversight authority. the constitution does complaint she can walk and chew gum at the same time. legislate, seek or investigate the president of the united states for accountability issues. they should be able to do so. the good point he makes of course is what would expedite the process and go into dismissing the president's argument which is listen was there is no legitimate legislative purpose. you are just out to get me. it's a witch hunt continued. having the impeachment inquiry would take you outside the context of purely oversight

which can be limited. congress needs to have all the details in order to implement legislation. it would have the effect. but the long run, they shouldn't need to do so. >> so -- so -- obviously then in the situation we're in, obviously we're in this weird warped world that we're in np david, though, the world we're in justin amash one republican in congress came out in favor of impeachment proceedings. he has done so clearly on constitutional grounds. other republicans have been very loyal to trump even though amash many say operatively they agree. publicly he is solo. with nixon it was very different rb, right. >> it was different. it's worth remembering when the articles of impeachment that were voted upon in the house of representatives that in the first article and the first major test, it went down 27-11. six republicans, over a third of the republicans on the committee voted to impeach.

so did three conservative southerner democrats. but to have over a third of your own party break with you is no where near where we are in terms of the republican parties loyalty to -- to president trump. i actually think that nancy pelosi is playing in as brilliantly as anyone might in a position she is in, that in politics and in the supreme court and when you move toward the supreme court i do think there is such a thing as ripening and making sure the issue is ripe before you push i don't think it's ripe yet. >> yeah, and i guess. 57% of the people in the country are against impeachment at this point. she's also got a couple of dozen new members of the house who are democrats who ran in trump districts and won. >> right. >> and you put them at peril if you move right now. >> right. now, of course, before the nixon impeachment proceedings the public wasn't in favor. this is the discussion whether you need to present a formal hearing to watch and observe to

change that point of view if it changes or not. phillip the democratic congressman zoe lofgren was on the show earlier and she tried to explain why they she thinks impeachment proceedings. she thinks she could get the information they need the way they are going now. >> the i word doesn't change what you need in order to get your subpoenas enforced. i worked on the nixon impeachment on the staff of don edwards. i was on the committee during the clinton impeachment. so this is not my first rodeo when it comes to misbehavior in the executive branch. and there is a process you have to go through. it's frustrating but you have to do it. >> so phillip, what douse to her, that's the argument made by team pelosi. >> well, i think there are two responses to that. one is practical. one is theorile. and the practical level what they are doing now is conducting or trying to conduct inquiries

among a scatter shot of committees. the contrast with the impeachment inquiry during watergate was that you had a single coordinated, consolidated focused hearing before the judiciary committee. that makes a lot of difference in terms of educating the public about whether there are grounds to impeach. and then on the theorile side i think the power to get the information you need to make the case to the american public is much greater if you are conducting an impeachment inquiry as contrasted with just a variety of individual committee oversight hearings. >> laura, you know, one thing here is that the president has been pushing back. they said he has said we are fighting everything now. 20 plus subpoenas, investigations they are trying to block all of them. of course he has weighed in on this pretty much exact situation before, which is defying a congressional subpoena. here he is in the campaign.

>> you know when you delete something or when you don't provide the documents requested after -- offer get a subpoena from the united states congress, that's a criminal act. >> for her but not for him, laura. >> well, i know, people lichaj in glass houses shouldn't throw stones at least two years ago into the future. that's shooting himself in the foot. but the idea about the defiance. this comes down to the notion the president on the one hand having the strategic delay tactic employed here. i'm not certain he believes he will be successful ultimately being able to thwart the subpoena but the delay inures to his benefit to a certain extent. but you have two judicial opinions now saying congress is right right and the congress ultimately will decide whether arms of impeachment will be of the drafted. >> thank you all very much. and next president trump calling his former secretary of state dumb as a rock. was this not true?

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new tonight, dumb as a rock, president trump slamming former secretary of state rex tillerson. because tillerson told a house committee that trump was not prepared for his 2017 meeting with vladimir putin. michelle kusinski is outfront. >> reporter: in case there was any question how trump and his former fired secretary of state rex tillerson feel about each other other. the president laid it out by tweet. rex tillerson a man dumb as a rock and totally ill prepared and ill equipped to be secretary of state made up a stoerp. he got fired that i was outprepared by vladimir putin in at meeting. i don't think putin would griep. current secretary of state mike pompeo backed him up on that. >> it's pretty outrageous and probably explains why rex tillerson is no longer the secretary of state. >> his outrageous offense in vir will in re view was appearing before the members of the house foreign affairs committee in

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trump is hurt flg a time when he was referred to a moran. they made tillerson get out in front of cameras in a humiliating defense of the president. tillerson never denying he called him a moran. five months later he was tweeted out of office. >> god bless america. >> his true feelings on trump, now share. >> it's pretty undisciplined, doesn't -- doesn't like to read. doesn't read briefing reports. if our leaders seek to conceal the truth or we as people become accepting of alternative realities that are no longer grounded in facts, then we american citizens are on a pathway to reling wishing our freedom. >> for months three house committees have been trying to get information from the white house from the state department on trump's various contacts with vladimir putin. they haven't had luck. rex tillerson is one of the few people on the planet who has at least some knowledge of that.

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tariffs obviously impact your state. the president keeps saying mcis paying for them. saying it again and again. are you afraid the president's claims on this are going to stick and that people will believe him even though it is not true? >> no, i mean i was in iowa and back in ohio now. i will tell you the farmers know he is lying. he know it. and so i think he is really on shaky ground, because they're already upset with him that he is doing this. and that he is causing them trouble. they haven't made a profit in five years in farming in america. there is a recession in rural america. now he is lying about it. and that's starting to really bother them. i think he is in danger territory now of losing rural america. we have to be tough in going in there and trying to have a plan for rural america. >> so these are -- look, these are people you try to reach out to, trying to appeal for in re vote. trying to appeal to some of the same voters the president was

very successful winning over last time around. and frankly, congressman sometimes you and the president have sounded rather the same. take a listen. >> and we're going to tell millions and millions of unemployed americanss, my favorite two words. you're hired. >> and you're hired now. we need to say that the american people. >> our country is going to start building and making things again. >> we're going to start building things again in the united states. >> so congressman, look are you concerned that those words, those word echos- dsh that pitch to the same constituents could hurt you in the primary? >> not at all. i mean, the democrats want a good paying job. but the president is not delivering. we do have low employment. the stock market is up. but the average person is not keeping their nose above water. they're surviving, not thriving.

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but more of your colleagues have come onboard with the idea of starting process now. especially after don mcgahn refused to testify. one of them congressman david one of them, congressman cicilline refused to testify. here is why. >> i think the opening value is that it signals to the administration, to the witnesses who may be contemplating finding subpoenas that this is an important finding. actually, it would raise the level of seriousness. >> you're in congress. your vote, you know, you could be called to vote on this. have you considered changing your position, congressman? >> no. i'm watching every day very closely what's happening here, and, again, i believe that the president has obstructed justice. i believe that him trying to really stonewall this whole investigation is very, very dangerous, and i think at some point if he keeps going, we are going to have to look at taking the next step. but we've got to bring the

american people along. i think we've got to do what we did not do in 2008 during the financial crisis. we should have been bringing bankers and heads of financial institutions before congress, educating the american people as to what was going on, and i think we need to do the same thing now. >> so congressman, i want to ask you about what democratic congressman steve cohn has had to say about house speaker nancy pelosi when he talked about this issue, about her refusing to start the impeachment process. she thi he thinks she is completely wrong. >> she says she is doing this because of patriotism not politics. it's hard to see that. patriotism would say jump in to help for a heavenly cause. and the fact is when you have a constitution and you have a rule of law and it's being destroyed in a reckless gangster manner, you need to act. the only reason not to act is because of politics. patriotism says act. >> obviously he's calling her unpatriotic. you challenged her position as the minority leader in 2016.

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tonight 2020 candidate elizabeth warren and congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez are teaming up to take on treasury secretary steve mnuchin. >> retail workers and workers across the country deserve so much better. >> and they also deserve a treasury secretary who fights for them. >> so does that mean an endorsement? jason carroll is "outfront." >> reporter: it is one of the most coveted endorsements on the political landscape, and it will come from freshman congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez, who has signaled she might endorse a candidate during the democratic primary. >> but it's not going to be for a while. >> reporter: perhaps, but already some 2020 candidates have emerged as front-runners. >> hello, bedford! >> what i would like to see in a presidential candidate is one that has a coherent world view

and logic from which all these policy proposals are coming forward. i think senator sanders has that. i also think senator warren has that. >> reporter: ocasio-cortez has four million twitter followers and has proven herself a progressive power player on the hill. and while some 2020 candidates brush off talk of endorsements -- >> and do you think you'll ask her for your endorsement? >> no. >> i haven't asked anybody for endorsements. >> reporter: it's clear some are already jockeying for opportunities to tap into ocasio-cortez's popularity. senator bernie sanders and ocasio-cortez have teamed up on occasions, appearing last week at a rally for the green new deal. the two also introduced a plan to combat predatory lenders, but none of that has stopped senator elizabeth warren from courting her. warren wrote a glowing essay about ocasio-cortez for "time" magazine, citing her meteoric rise from bartender to congresswoman, writing "a year ago she was taking orders across

a bar. today millions are taking cues from her." the two even shared a "game of thrones" season finale moment on twitter. >> we were getting so close to having this ending with just women running the world. >> exactly. >> and then the last two episodes, oh, they're too emotional. >> exactly. can't do that. >> the end. >> still, democratic hopeful washington governor jay inslee had a moment with ocasio-cortez when she tweeted praise for his own ambitious climate change plan. >> have you asked representative ocasio-cortez for an endorsement, and what would that mean to your candidacy? >> no, we haven't talked about that. >> reporter: and while former vice president joe biden is polling as the democratic front-runner, he's looking like a long shot for ocasio-cortez's endorsement. the two at odds over proposals to combat climate change. >> i will be damned if the same politicians who refused to act then are going to try to come

back today and say we need a middle of the road approach to save our lives. that is too much for me. >> i've never been middle of the road on environment. she'll find nobody has been more consistent about taking on the environment and a green revolution than i am. >> reporter: jason carroll, cnn, new york. >> and thanks to all of you for joining us. anderson starts now. good evening. last night after president trump walked out of a white house meeting with democrats and gave a rambling, angry defensive and misleading press conference in the rose garden, i described it as not normal, as in not normal behavior for a president. after what happened today, though, i've got say i think i was wrong, because tonight we know that by the standards of this president, that kind of behavior is normal, especially now that it's happened for a second straight day. it's normal meaning typical. it occurs with regularity and predictability. it happens over and over again. it doesn't seem like he can h