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americans in the name of the flag, then you have to ask yourself, why are you being dumb? look at this gorgeous day on this amazing beach. where are we? saint-tropez? rio de janeiro. blue ivy box. no you orange beach, alabama. hurricanes and confederate flag as enthings you don't know like alabama has beaches like this. alabama is the original home of mardi gras so sit back, roll
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tide and enjoy the show. i think you need some more sun block. i don't need any. i was born with mine. i literally woke up like there. my name is w. kamau bell. as a comedian, i've made a living finding humor in parts of america i don't understand. now i'm challenging myself to dig deeper. i'm on a mission to reach out and experience all the cultures and beliefs that add color to this crazy country. this is "the united shades of america." so for the first two seasons of the show i might have mentioned that i live in the bay area. >> berkeley. >> berkeley, berkeley. >> i live in berkeley where people have papds-free days. i'm also from pail low alto, boston and as we all learned
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last season, chicago. but i'm also sort of from alabama. how can i be from alabama? because i am. this is about the stereotypes of alabama. when i say alabama, i specifically mean mobile. mobile is i best how jess was proposed to by justin. can you explain mobile to me? >> no. >> that's how i feel about mobile sometimes too. >> people outside of the southie it's the same, south carolina and mobile, alabama is the same. >> the way they talk is the biggest thing i've seen. >> it's redneck country.
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and here it's -- >> you say it. >> it's kind of uppity country. you know what that is? >> yes. uppity country. >> i will say that i've had the best bowl of shrimp and grits in mobile. >> was it near here? >> yes, right down the street at momma's? >> you ain't say nothing but a word. i'll see you late. rock, paper, scissors as soon as i get back. now i really our country has a complicated relationship with alabama and i get it. first of all, there's this. >> and i say segregation now, secogregation some and segregatn forever.
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>> we came way too close to center for this. >> let's break it down a total of nine women have come forward with overtures by roy moore. >> here's our braking news, cnn projects doug jones has won the special senate race in alabama. >> that proves a point. no one thought doug jones would win. no one except for charles bark len. i see you, black women. if people paid attention they elected randall woodford. my point is sometimes charles barkley knows what he's talking about. let's start with the beginning, my beginning. ♪ so this is the house that i grew up in. spent a lot of time. lived here fora couple of years, my dad, stepmom, my stepsister.
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spent a lot of time cutting this grass. as you can see i did a great job. my dad likes me to be reminded i blew up two because i didn't put enough oil in them. is that right, dad? >> that's right. >> come here. >> so you still upset about those lawn mowers. >> you owe me a couple lawn mowers. >> yep, that's my dad. i know, he's so much better looking than me. we will spend a lot of quality time with him, but first i have some unfinished business with the city of mobile. this is the mobile public library. i used to come here all the time as a kid, house i grew up is near here. need to come back today because i've had this book out for over 30 years, probably time to take it back. ♪
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>> hi. >> hi. >> i'm returning a book. i took it out in 1986. yes, my dad got mad of my stepsister for returning it late and then i good afraid to return this book in oh, my goodness. >> i'm sorry. >> it's just $10. >> the book is $10. >> got to call in the backup. >> i'm solving a cold case. walter pay, i think that's the name it was under. >> this is out of the system so you're not there. >> every time i visit my father, everybody who didn't become an artist because i stole that the
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book. can i donate money to the library. >> we'd never say no. >> how about i donate thousand dollars to the mobile public library to help make up for the book. >> a thousand. >> should we hold out for 2? [ laughter ] >> to think i worried all that time and i could have kempt the book but i love this library because they have all the best books. man, suddenly his book is below mine. showbiz is not nice.
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come on, kids. let's destroy more steer joe types. even though mobile isn't a major city i'm far from its most accomplished person. there are five baseball hall-of-famers from mobile, alabama including the rail home run king harnk aaron. meant talking about my dad, walter bell. when it came out there was a big argue in the local paper. this being a small town while we were shooting the reporter who interviewed me happened to be walking by. your name again. >> j.b. >> j.b. boyd. >> i know you. >> i promise this is not a
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plant. what was it like to interview my dad? >> it was inspiring to see a black map in this area that achieved that much. he was a lot like how you described him in the book, very stern, very serious. seemed very disappointed when i pulled up. >> that sounds like my dad. >> i was an entertainment report ir. i was dressed down. >> i should have told you to put on hard bottoms and a button down. >> he was candid. that made some of the best parts of the story. we know you. >> everybody out in alabama knows me now. >> he mentioned how good it made me felt to say, i saw your son on television or in the newspaper. >> i will tell my dad you did a good job. he's doing okay but by most measures but my dad is way more impressive.
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he was the insurance commissioner of alabama. he was the first alabamian to become the national association of insurance commissioners. he's met with multiple presidents, clinton, obama, nope -- but before all that he was a struggling artist in the bay area. that's where i got it from. his life started in a shack in reddenburg, alabama. proplation of 300 and it's a shack we still open off bell road. seems stunly to have all this land but it's so far away . >> not the end of the earth. >> ow on its way. >> there there is. >> yep. this is where i was born and this is the house actually your grandfather built. it's now a hunting camp so it
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doesn't resemble what it looked like. most of my brothers and sisters were born here from '27 on. my deuced to tell me he'd walk six miles to work and six miles home and made 90 cents a day and working with a saw mill. >> leave to my dad to reeft plea on my own tv show. it was a big city. >> it was ray big city. i went to mobile, montgomery and birmingham and my dad went south. >> why did they pick mobile. >> work. >> my grandfather and others moved here to find work. it was perfect for manufacturing, the port and they were so successful they couldn't afford to be racist so they hired everybody. first generation since emancipation that had an
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opportunity to increase their income. such a long way to go from that house to where you have come, i mine it's not about the distance. it's about the journey. >> you can be born anywhere and end up anywhere. >> i feel like thousand this house somehow is connected to why you were so mad at me when i dropped out of college. >> might have had a little bit to do. >> dough you know where we came from? you were going to drop out corps comedy? >> right. >> the family last been here and started a cemetery and so this is frances here born in 1844 but had kids about i a slave master, named him dockery and that's
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where the damly started from. >> so how come our name isn't dockery? >> well, because, they didn't give the names always of the slave master. i'm sure he had a wife. >> oh, yeah. oh, yeah, that. you know what i mean. >> yeah, yeah. >> and so francis, she was enslaved her son was born five years out of slavery then her son has your father, you then -- it's like we're not that far from here. if we want to know why black people can't get over slavery it only takes one simple grab to make me back to slavery. >> it's a very sobering thought. what do your nod or would your dad think about you. >> he was a union guy. i mean, bled union blood. for me to have worked for a
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republican governor, probably would have had a few things to say to me. >> that's funny. i was thinking of your accomplish accomplishme accomplishments. he would have said i raised you better than that. losing your hair is no fun and no one wants to be bald but there is hope. getting my hair back was the best thing that ever happened to me. i'm happy with the way i look now. i'm very excited about my hair. i feel beautiful.
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vacation to a beach is usually a problem or if you tell them it's where they're rebooting "jersey shore." aren't you going to another klan rally? there has to be an interview about confederate flags? you're taking us to a beach? damn right. also i have kind of sworn off white nationalists and we'll talk about confederate flags later. don't worry. until then it's time to relax. orange beach is beautiful and if someone said it was miami, no one would bat an eye unless you had been to miami. but like most places in the south hardship transformed it into what it is today. i see change since i was a kid. we didn't have huge skyscrapers.
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used to be tiny motels and inns. >> in 1979 that's when it was just beach houses. >> hurricane frederick destroyed 80% of the beaches and orange beach was changed forever. down here hurricanes are just a part of life. on the day we visit the hurricane nate was on the ho horizen when 17 tropical storms or hurricanes in 2017 alone. the wind the way the water is there is a sign a hurricane is headed this direction. >> yeah, only like this when the storm is coming in? these people are saying, my vacation is today. i planned this months ago. >> right. >> i can't lose my vacation day because a hand is on the way.
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>> here is some global warming that is occurring and that has an effect in terms of warming bodies of oceans in terms of what's going on in the atmosphere. climate change is a real deal. the skijoring say it is and it's undeniable. yep, another southern stereotype debunked. older church going southern man who believes in climate change. >> i always say there is a price you have to pay to live in paradise and this is a little slice. >> there's i'm watching, alabama, a little slice of paradise. >> prop began ha has got me bambooz bamboozled. run amok. this is what he does. writing the book when you think about all the pieces of my life that made me who i am, i got to
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understand what it meant to me if ways i haven't thought through and after the collection, there was so much written about divides and so much written about red state vls blue state anticipate there's a lot of stuff in the media where the people represent the south say horrible i don't agree with and outside con descedescension they don't know what they're talking about so i want to tell my truth of alabama. another truth includes mardi gras. ready to is your mind blown, mobile is the birth place of mardi gras. not new orleans. now, admittedly new orleans has put their own super drunk and super naked spin on it. come to the original bun in boebl, l. craig roberts is eye
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historian and art thundershower of "mardi gras in mobile," a place i had never heard of till today. you are saying martindi gras started in mobile. >> simple fact of history, the settlement is 1702 and the first mardi gras celebration on this side was in 1782 and they were founded in 1718 and we had rio de janeiro 18 year as of ha. >> they are definitely one of southern celebration.y daughter- isn't she cute? takes after her mom. >> it says we're second biggest. now know, we don't get any respect. we're so proud of everything but yet the tourist who come to visit say, we had no idea. >> uh-huh. >> especially with mardi gras. ♪
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>> our parades go on for 19 days, almost every night and all day long the last three days. ♪ >> who is this? >> that's one of the many kings and other statues generically speaking in mobile. >> this is to celebrate the kings and queens of mardi gras is this that's exactly right. and there's a lot of them. >> like a lot of statues in the south this is of a plaque guy. >> and we're also proud. we don't have a statue of robert e. lee but to those would took us through the civil rights community with life and understand even didn't hear of them during that because of those two men and those's our 30-foot statue.
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here but some of it because of its history, they haven't done a great job at justice or inclusion. >> it gets kind of complicated sometimes. >> for many southern white folks the history of racism is difficult to discuss motion by because it ain't all history. >> one georgia town is struggling with racism after end agent tradition after segregated proms. >> but some are so potent they still have the power to divide a country. these further their agenda of hate and exclusion so while white people all over the map most black people fall squarely on one side of this issue. notice i said most.
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>> take up the flag and do not let them take it down. >> meet arlene barnham. >> don't take down everything. just let them do that. >> see how complicated it gets? you knew i'd get here eventually. here on south carolina. >> i'm an a mission. >> the mission? >> the mission to get the blackberry blacks represented in the confederate museum. throughout my travel i noticed there were no black statues, i got to ask where are think at? we got them in storage. i said give them their freedom. put them on the hill of the floor. >> hases that gone directions i didn't expect. you hear a black woman --
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>> you expect to hear heritage not hate. >> some of that stuff. >> the slogan heritage not hate is not something you would have heard in a ken burns doc. it wasn't important until t the '90s. >> this confederate flag doesn't represent the same as in a klansman's happens. two totally different thing. >> when the confederate flag is in the hand of a klansman, what does it represent them. >> white supremacy. >> how about in your hands. >> this means the south and anybody that belongs to the south. >> we both know that symbol causes a lot of people pain who live in the south. >> i don't think it cause people pain the at the time this confederate battle flag was put out there. >> you don't think they were pained to see that. >> i think eventually in the hands of the wrong people it did. i'm talking about when it first
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was made, it was just a design. >> this is america. we have free expression. i support that. if you want to carry it, i'm happy for you. the people that are hung up on, when you see these statues in public spaces that are celebrating a part of america's history that was divisive and violent and for the sub jrjugat doesn't seem right. >> i'm not down tore taking history down. you want it to stay there so you can show people. that man caused slavery to be prolo prolonged. >> i want to say see that woman, that statue is oprah winfrey.
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she is one of the greatest in mankind. >> don't you think a person need to be dead before you put a statue up. >> i think oprah has done enough she could have one while she's still around. this being my show this is what it might look like. if you want civil rights you have to use lots of different ways to get there. marches, t-shirts. but in 2015 a brand-new way and i do mean up. [ chanting ] bree newsom scaled it. he should have that to woke american ninja warrior. i hadn't heard of you before.
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you went and climbed up the flagpole and there was this moment where is who is this person? we have another superhero. you know, so what was that like from your side. >> the main focus was lowering the flag. that was the primary objective. >> it was like you thought how do we get up there and there was no thought about then what happens? >> we thought about getting arrested. we knew that was going to happen. we were so focused because it was this moment of a moral crisis. in. >> walter scott was shot five times after a routine traffic stop. next watt the assassination of nine parishioners at the ame church by dylann roof. >> the massacre that happened was a sparking point for the flag coming down but the
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massacre can't be separated from the killing of walter scott, the pastor of mother emanuel was a state representative. he had succeeded in getting body camera legislation passed so, you know, it's important to understand hthis is part of a long history of attacks on civil right leaders and it can't be disconnected from that time line and there's oftentimes an attempt to talk about these things happening as though they are separate from everything that has preceded it. >> as if history is a series of dots and --s and not a long line. >> absolutely. it was a reminder, we can still be targeted and murdered for this work. for civil rights and racial equality. >> sad part it doesn't feel like the loss of those people has made the nation on front any of the issues that led to the loss. >> oh, no, absolutely not. that was part of what was so
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infuriating about the confederate flag debate. more energy in the aftermathison tered on whether they would lower it on half-staff. instead of oh, my goodness. this young man in his early 20s goes into a black church, murders he would sderly black people while they're praying, what are the conditions that led to that? these nine black lives cannot compete with the confederate flag. now that the tide has shifted and people saying are let's just talk about the monuments and taking them down and pat ourselves on the back and go home, these systemic issues are still not being talked about. >> what is still the truth is that we are still living under institutionalized racism but you don't take that down and -- >> oh, wow, everything is
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♪ coming back into mobile after stopping by south carolina and witnessing two totally different takes on confederacy issues more than ever i was like why do we stop with this two-dimensional view. >> what could they do better. >> re-educate themselves. hillbillies, southern no shoes on. that could be a little more. >> let's talk about educated world leaders just from alabama. civil rights leaders mike parks and king and i don't mean martin, i mean coretta, apple ceo tim cook and e.o. wilson and harper lee. the south has got no shortage of brilliant people and i haven't even left alabama for this list, i don't need to go outside of my own family to find one and for one i ain't talking about me. a great joy of my life fans of
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your work are fans of my work and don't realize -- >> wait, wait, you're related. >> cousins. like real cousins, blood line. to me this is my cousin nora but to the rest of the world this is n.k. jemison. she's won two hugo award, an award won by philip k. dick, isaac azimov and j.k. rowley but she is the first black author to win one and only the third person of any race to win them back-to-back. well, thanks for coming back to mobile for me. >> i only came because you asked. >> as soon as i'm of the right age -- sri lanka. >> is in that noticeable? >> the feeling was -- down to the fact that somehow you don't have a southern accent, i feel like you sort of acted like i'm not taking that on. >> you grew up here. you lived here.
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not like you were coming beak an forth. >> it wasn't that i was chafing to go it was more like i needed to be someone that felt like me. new york felt more like me but not 100%. you know, mobile is always going to be a part of me whether i want it to be or not and since family is here i'll always come back. >> lu of the here more than i did but in new york -- you were the doing the opposite. >> for a few years, yeah, we were swapping places which was frustrating because you were the only person i could talk about about coming books and the latest geeky tv show and we were just nerds but it's a weird city to be a nerd in. >> especially black nerd. in. you write fantastic worlds. how much was informed in growing up here. >> i'm still writing about
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people, what planet they're on and that systems and networks of protection and networks of harm and, you know, also to make the world more realistic to explore the ways oppression works. this is a town with a long and bloody history and also a beautiful history. people bend together to kind of form found families or, you know, even to use blood families just to try and make themselves safe in an unsafe world and i hasn't realized how much i absorbed from living here. it's in mere. it's in me. i try to acknowledge things and renegotiating my relationship with mobile and remembering how it started helps. >> i'm really happy that we are able to talk. >> yeah. >> my time in mobile, a lot is centered around us, you know, and being at grandma's house. >> yeah, yeah.
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lived in that house every summer when i moved here for a little bit i lived in here. well, my dad lived in the front, my grandmother's room was in the back. my room was right here looking out there. one of the big reasons me and my wife decided to move back to the bay area issal of my wife's family is there. i wanted my daughters to grow up with their family. i wanted them to know their cousins in kinds of ways i didn't know all my cousins. knew my cousin n.k. whatever the symbol of amelie is, this is was it for my southern family. for me. people would come from all overed enable and said hello to miss gladys. my grandmother was just, she was a classic southern grandmother. she filled with love but didn't
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put up with bullshit. she was -- she was -- she could cook, she could sew. she could regulate with a shoe. d she did all the things you needed a classic southern grandmother to do. i mean, we -- it was just what a grandmother is supposed to be. gladys bell, everybody. shoutout to southern grandmothers.
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when i was a kid coming to mobile a wasn't that excited about it. now that i've grown up i have a lot of love for it and the south and people would haven't been here condescend it, it drives me crazy. >> you meet a woman and call her momma. you can't do that up north. >> growing up in new york and being in the south, there's a sense of belonging, a sense of love. >> you're not afraid to speak or get to say hello. >> people aren't afraid to say hello.
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there's a lot of squirrels. i've never seen this many. it feels like there's aylan coming together. >> there is an entire film crew and the squirrels keep on coming. >> oh, jesus. oh, god. aaah. i never thought it was the squirrel capital of the world. the other thing i never knew, the prancing elites. the prancing elites are a dance company that might make you rethink your image of the prototypical southern man. i'm sitting down with two founder members of the group. >> hi. >> is it okay if i pick up the
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hardware. >> what's the question? >> this one you won for bucking off and this one you won for buckling down. >> what the buck is the difference? >> what? >> i'm just asking. >> okay, so that's the name of the competition. it was called the candy lapd buck off. this juan was called the midwest buck down if there is a ton of trophies out there. you have been doing it for awhile and you have a tv show and international acclaim. >> hello, international. >> international. >> kind of did something -- >> people know. >> so first of all i have to ask because i spent a lot of time here as a kid. there weren't people here that we talked about as gay. >> they were here in a lot of choir director. >> ooh. >> people outside of alabama and outside of the south don't panel that gay people would feel comfortable coming out. >> you were for us. >> funny story. i was in the army. >> what was it like to be gay in
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the army. >> like another gay man in the army. i won't the only one. yeah. >> so what would you say to people who say they slupts be in the army. >> you're telling me i can't protect my family or provide for them because you don't like what i do? >> i don't understand what are we supposed to do? we're not supposed to put on these hearts but not go to the army either. it gets stupid to me. >> you can't do this, you can't do that. >> what can we do? >> i believe in leading with the most respectable dignity. that's what we did if we weren't allowed somewhere we weren't allowed to fight in the moment. >> we take it with a grain of salt. somebody will say yes eventually. >> then those noes become part of the bandwagon. >> what do you love about the south? >> both: the food.
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>> tell me about the food. >> soul food. >> good food. it could take an hour, don't eat it. yeah, because soul food takes like six hours. >> what do you not like about alabama? >> regardless of "les miserables" i love our farm because there's so much that goes on here. they just think we're just hicks who are racist and don't accept gay people. >> people who don't need alabama need to catch up and those -- >> the rest of the world. >> catch up, everybody. all right, enough talk, now it's time for my daughter's favorite part of my show. me dancing. >> soy, wait, what is your skill level of dance before i start moving? >> oh, my -- >> i i'm at a clumsy gipper level. >> you have to be working with us. >> i'll try. >> i'll give anything a shot. >> whatever you winter me to do. >> if i look bad you'll look good. >> can you rock your hips. >> my hips don't lie.
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>> uh-oh. >> i want to do this for awhile. >> can you kick your legs up? >> what if we do step left pick up right. >> yeah. you did it. one, two, three four. >> four. >> five, six, seven eight. what happened? now. by yourself, snap it up, come on. >> so my time in mobile is wining down to an end and i figure i'd make sure my dad got a little more screen time by doing something he loves to do, not fishing, breaking it down. i have a great life here, you know. >> i know people, people know me and making a living and a life is two different things. and when you make a living you also want to make a life. >> yeah. sometimes it's probably for the
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worst but for the better mobile hasn't changed. still a place i can come to. >> still home. >> i know the streets, yeah and it's nice to feel connected to some place. >> that's the key, that's -- the south does that as well as anyboany other place in the world in we talk about the good parts of alabama and mobile but some of the divisive parts of america. >> well, there's a lot of polarization in the country today. if you can find a confederate flag in california and new york as well as in alabama, misand north carolina. but, you know, there are good people everywhere. >> usually i do a big wrap-up but my dad summed it up. guess what, i got something on here. >> you got something on there? >> it's biting. should i pull it up? >> yeah, okay.
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[ laughter ] whoa. >> my son the fisherman. ? i'm from mobile, alabama! i don't want to touch it, though. >> i know. a deadly storm tears through the state of oklahoma. we have the latest on a town waking up to damage. >> president trump starts off his visit to japan with a tweet expressing his confidence in north korea's leader. >> plus -- >> it did come down to life and death and i had to choose. and i chose life. >> a story of survival. she was lost in this hawaiian forest for more than two weeks. we hear from the rescued hiker and talk about her ordeal. >> these stories ahead this hour. welcome to our viewers here in the u.s. and around the world. live from
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