it's time for reliable sources. this is our look at the story behind the story of how the media really works, how the news gets made and how all of us can help make it better. this hour, a slew of new charges against julian assange have first amendment advocates bracing. plus, in san francisco a police raid on a reporter is causing widespread concern. later, 60 minutes correspondent joins us live with his reflections from a brand-new book. first, move over deep fakes. look out for dumb fakes. you have heard of deep fakes,

right? a term for sophisticated technology that makes totally fake videos look real. it is going to be a problem in the future. but right now the bigger problem quite frankly are dumb fakes like that doctor distorted video of nancy pelosi that got everyone's attention a few days ago. it was a dumb fake. you can see here on facebook where it wracked up millions of views. the house speaker's voice was slewed down significantly to make it sound like she was slurring her words. it was dumb and pathetic but persuasi persuasive. some people were primed to believe it. it racked up millions of views on facebook, until fact checkers debunked the video and the social network started to reduce its spread. this gained a lot of attention in the news media was it was a crystal clear example of misinformation mire that we're all in. but stuff like this goes on

every day. du there is this crazy theory out there popular called fake melania that claims the first lady has a body double. but on both the right and the left, this is hyper partisan content designed to make you distrust or just hate the other side. and the president oftentimes plays into it. on thursday, president trump found a different way to spread that pelosi might be sick smear. he tweeted a mash up that aired on fox business. now, the clips were not slowed down. they were just edited together to make her look really bad. it is two kinds of videos, both advancing the same theme. this was, for trump and his allies, a way of hurling pelosi's concerns about his wellness right back at her. pelosi bringing up real concerns about the president's well-being and it goes back around. this is one of the president's favorite rhetorical devices. i'm rubber. you're glue. i know you are, but what am i.

and we see it all the time. this week, again, after former secretary of state rex tillerson told house lawmakers that trump was not as prepared as vladimir putin during a key meeting, trump called tillerson ill prepared. again, over and over again trump says i know you are, but what am i? you say i'm crooked. hillary clinton is crooked. collusion, the democrats colluded. heck, he even said "saturday night live" was guilty of collusion. i think the key for journalists when we're tracking this nonstop nonsense is to keep track of the patterns, to pick up on the patterns, to keep track of them and to examine them in context so we're not just covering every single day, every single tweet, but explaining the tactics behind it. let's get to our panel now and talk more about this, including yet another example of this i'm rubber, you're glue behavior we're seeing today.

the thing about what's happening every day, every peek, there is new stories about trump profiting from his presidency, helping out his friends. what did trump do? he mocked joe biden as the real swamp man and claimed biden has a low iq while misspelling his name and siding with a dictator. what do you call this? what do you make of this? >> i absolutely agree with you that you have to find the pattern, and it's obviously in so many ways projection. trump attacks other people for what he is doing or accused of or actually conducting. what actually happened this week to me was nancy pelosi had a meeting. chuck schumer had a meeting with trump and he in realtime had a meltdown. we saw all of the meltdown. it was in front of us.

he had this press conference. he rushed out of the meeting. he had this press conference. afterwards, in which he literally told the american people he was going to take all his marbles on legislation that affects their lives like inf infrastructure and go home until oversight was ended. and then he like attacks nancy pelosi for basically not being up to the job. and i think the issue is i agree you have to detect a pattern, but i think the media has a role in finding out why he acts this way, why did he have this meltdown? why is he doing these things instead of covering the fight. what he relies on is the media doing exactly what it did in 2016 was cover the foot bite instead of asking why is he throwing the food? >> david, where do you see this happening? on what fronts?

>> the coverup is both his refusal to cooperate with congress on the subpoenas at the same time he's launching this one sided exculpatory investigation where his hench men have the power to release or not to release documents that trump thinks will make him look good. to your question about why he does this, you know, president obama never found it necessary to tell people that he was smart. president clinton never found it necessary to tell people that he was smart, not to be partisan about it, neither did president nixon. we knew they were smart. the question i have about president trump's high iq tweets is who he is talking to? he hears it in his head, maybe in his father's voice. that's who he is arguing with. it is not a media strategy. it is a psychological project based on this deeply wounded person. >> you are getting really close to playing psychiatrist here.

>> i think many people in america have had close in their lives personalities like donald trump and they can recognize behaviors without making anything like a formal diagnosis. many people have had this in their lives and can see the person who hears the denigrating voices tries to turn it on the outside world and it still never works. they still hear voices. >> the big story in right wing media this week has been bill barr to investigate the investigators. fox talk shows have been talking about this for months. is that ultimately the most significant story line of the week because of what it might portend in the months ahead. >> you could argue a number of different stories are the most significant of the week. donald trump is taking kim jong-un's side against joe biden. obviously, the nancy pelosi video investigating the investigators. i think every other week since he took office or since the 2016 election, we are just being inundated with significant story

after significant story, and it's very difficult to kind of make sense of it all and stay on track and have a view from 10,000 feet of what's really going on. i think that donald trump tends to benefit from that chaos. i think it is difficult to benefit what is the most important story of the week. to david's point, talking about psycho analyzing trump, i do think there is something funny or interesting about the fact that, as he does, no self-reflection. he does not analyze himself. he seems afraid of doing so. we all sit around and we try and make sense of what's going on inside his head and spend a lot of time and energy doing so. >> can i just add to all of this? can i just add to all of this, though? i think as we are going through this in real-time, the most important thing is that the media do not replicate the mistakes they made in 2016 or what i consider mistakes, many people consider mistakes, which is donald trump wants everything to be a food fight drama. at the end of the day, there are impacts from what he does.

if he decides, i'm not going to pass an infrastructure bill, i'm not going to work with democrats to pass an infrastructure bill until they end oversight, that is the president of the united states saying my feelings are more important than the results in your lives. and i think -- i think the fact that we have this doctored video which social media seems incapable of still dealing with fake videos and false information after telling us for years that they were ready for this and also the fact that we have news outlets still using wikileaks and other things. these things should concern us at a broad scale. >> the doctors video -- >> yeah. go ahead. >> it lives on a spectrum, right, where it's actual footage, but slowed down, so it lives on this spectrum in between made up and real. facebook has been criticized for not removing the video outright.

here is what one of the companies executives told anderson cooper the other day. >> if it is related to safety, we can and we do remove it. but when we're talking about political discourse and misinformation around that, we think the right approach is to let people make an informed choice. >> so she's distinguishing between misinformation that threatens someone's safety versus political propaganda. is that fair? >> i actually don't. facebook has said authenticity is a value that they share. they're taking down fake identities. apparently billions of fake identities they have taken down. the fact that they know about fake information and they're not taking that down. whereas, you know, there is information -- there are -- there are conservatives who criticized liberal critiques of trump. they make value judgments every single day. and if authenticity is a value,

then they need to be clear that this is fake information that's communicating that there is something wrong with nancy pelosi. i sat across from nancy pelosi in one of these videos. she was far more coherent than the president of the united states. and i think that facebook has a responsibility, just like youtube did. youtube took the video down. facebook should follow suit. >> we should all. >> sitting there making judgment calls every day. look at this from the hill. artist banned from facebook for turning maga hats into symbols of hate speech. last word to you, david. >> let's remember that misinformation is a supply -- demand problem as well as supply. as you said, these are dumb things. people are choosing to believe them. i don't think the people who repeat them are fooled. i think they enjoy the lie themselves. they are coproducers. it is the demand for false information.

maybe a bigger problem than the supplier. >> to me, it is both. >> all right. first to you, everybody standby. quick break here and then we will look ahead to two stories with first amendment implications you need to know about. one of them involving julian assange and the other involving a freelance journalist in san francisco whose home was raided earlier this month. scott pelly will join me as well. hear what he has to say about journalism versus junk. much more coming up on "reliable sources." ork and offers and blah blah blah. look. sprint's going to do things differently. and let you decide for yourself. they're offering a new 100% total satisfaction guarantee. try it out and see the savings. if you don't love it, get your money back. see? simple. now sprint's unlimited plan comes with one of the newest phones included for just $35 a month. so switch now. for people with hearing loss, visit sprintrelay.com

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welcome back. the quality of our democracy is bound to the quality of our journalism. that's what scott pelley says in his new work, "truth worth telling." you can normally see him on sunday evenings on 60 minutes. but he's here earlier with me right now. thanks for coming on. >> great to be with you on reliable sources. thank you. >> here in chapter 19 of the book you write you believe the fastest way to destroy democracy is to poison the information. >> this is the thing that worries me the most about our beloved country. we have gone from the information age into the disinformation age. and as you were discussing earlier in the program with the nancy pelosi video, i think our

viewers and our readers now have a responsibility that they have never had before, and that is they have to be careful about how they choose their information diet. this is going to be a problem for the rest of our history, and it's a problem in particular for democracies. >> do you see the cbs and cnns of the world as living up to the challenge, or are we way too far behind? >> i think we are living up to the challenge and this program this morning is a great example of that. you just dismantled the nancy pelosi video, and that's what we have to do as journalists. we have to tell the truth, tell it again, tell it again and tell it again because the american people have to have reliable information to make decisions about our country. there is no democracy without journalism. >> and what are you hearing on your book tour from readers and

people? do you hear the population just completely confused about what to believe? >> yes, very much so. what are we supposed to do, people ask me? and what i tell them is, and it is a little bit self-serving, but i tell them to go to brand name sources of journalism, cnn, cbs, nbc, "the new york times," the los angeles times, whatever you want to do. but if you see something on the internet that you wonder about or that outrages you, then do what has never been possible before, look at a variety of other sources. spend ten minutes figuring out whether that story is true. i wonder what cnn is saying about that. i wonder what the chicago tribune is saying about that? and try aiangulate your information. our viewers have never had to do that in history, and today it is going to be mandatory. >> how much do you think president trump has contributed to this confusing climate?

how much blame do you put? >> well, you know, i wonder whether this climate that we're in made donald trump possible rather than donald trump making this climate possible, if you see what i mean. >> yeah, yeah. >> people have begun to worry. we live in a time today, brian, as you well know, where what is true can be made to seem false. and what is false can be made to seem true. and that allows our national leadership to start saying things like fake news and the media is the enemy of the american people. we are the american people. madison said that freedom of the press is the right that guarantees all the others. he knew that as long as we could say what we wanted to say, write what we wanted to write, read what we wanted to read, then all of our rights would be protected. it is just that important. >> and, scott, while i have you,

a question about cbs. your day job there. 18 months of scandals and shakeups at cbs news and the rest of the company, what has been like for you and your colleagues? everything has changed. >> well, we have been through a dark period in the last several years of incompetent management and sort of a hostile work environment within the news division. i lost my job at the evening news because i wouldn't stop complaining to management about the hostile work environment. but as you say, now everything has changed. we have a new chairman of cbs corporation, a visionary leader. we have the first woman president of the news division. and i have known her for 30 years. she's been at cbs more than 40 years. she has cbs news dna. now we have a new executive producer, bill owens at 60 minutes. and it is all blue sky from

here. i'm very excited. i know these people, and i know that we're on the right track. >> you were replaced by jeff. you say you lost your evening news job because you were complaining about hostile work environments? >> that's true. several years ago, four or five years ago, i went to the president of the news division and explained to him that this hostile work environment couldn't go on for women and men. he told me if i kept ago dating about that internality, i would lose my job. i went to his boss who told me that he didn't share my concerns and, so, having exhausted the possibilities in the news division, i went to the chairman of the cbs corporation who listened to me very concerned for an hour, asked me some penetrating questions about what was going on. i didn't hear back from him. but in the next opportunity in my contract i was let go from the evening news. >> and that chairman is no

longer there either. of course brought down by sexual harassment scandal himself. you look ahead, scott, you are feeling much more positive, it sounds like, about the news division. >> absolutely. like i said, i know all of these new people. i have known for them for decades. they are people of the highest principals. they are people of public service. and i couldn't be more excited about the future of cbs news than i am right now. >> public service. we need more of those words. scott, thank you so much. best of luck with the book. >> great to be with you. thank you. >> the book is "truth worth telling." quick break here and new indictments about julian assange. why so many first amendment advocates are concerned about what this could mean. m command . it's so important to us that verizon is supporting military families. when i have a child deployed, having a reliable network means everything. so, when i get a video chat, and i get to see their face, it's the best thing in the world.

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journalists across the nation are sounding the alarm bells about this case. this is the new indictment against julian assange. he was previously charged in april with one count of conspiracy for allegedly helping army intelligence professionals leak top secret information in 2010. this week, trump's justice department charged assange with an additional 17 counts under the espionage act. that is a significant change. it is why top editors of the new york times and washington post and elsewhere are all concerned about the first amendment implications. so let's get into this with acclaimed first amendment attorney. he kepted cnn and jim acosta in

the case over the white house taking away acosta's press pass. ted, thanks for being here. >> thank you, brian. i'm glad to be with you. >> what makes this historic, this use of the espionage act to challenge and prosecute assange? >> this is the first time the government has ever invoked the espionage act to go after someone who received classified information and then disseminated it to the public. it's really been a rarely used statute. but when it's been used, it's been used to go after people who engaged in espionage or the government officials who leaked the information. that raises troubling questions itself sometimes, but this is a whole new realm, and it is very dangerous for journalism in multiple ways. >> prosecutors are saying assange is not a journalist. they're trying to get into the labeling business and say he's not one of us. does that matter? >> it doesn't matter at all.

that itself really poses great risks to the first amendment. whatever you think of julian assange, you don't have to recognize him as a journalist to see this indictment could be invoked about journalists who do this every day of their careers. it would criminalize the encouragement of leaks, the gathering of information from a government official who does leak information and then the publication of it. that would be criminalizing journalism. it is the activities that the indictment focuses on. it is good to hear the justice department was expressing concern about intruding on journalism, but their words don't match up with what's on the indictment. the focus goes to the essence of journalism. and it would really create a terrible situation where the government could pick and choose people who it wants to prosecute, depending on whether they like the content of what those people are saying by saying you are a journalist, you are not a journalist. >> look, the espionage october

has been around for a long time. tell us the proper use of the espionage act would be. >> a classic example would be if a foreign government or an individual here in the united states stole national security information and then gave it to a hostile government. and, so, that's more along the lines of what you see in the russian interference situation. you know, it is a criminal statute meant to go after hostile acts against the government, the stealing of information and the use of it to attack the united states. but what happens in journalism is journalists go to government officials, talk to them, sometimes cajole them to get information. they get information that belongs to the american people and they report it. if you let the government start bringing criminal prosecutions for that, that will hurt democracy. it will hurt the american people's ability to know what's going on in the government and act accordingly. >> and fundamentally, we deserve

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francisco police raided the home of a freelance journalist. he had obtained a copy of a police report relating to the death of a prominent public defender. he was able to help publish the report, provide more information on this person's death. he refused to reveal his source to the police department's internal affairs division. of course, he was keeping his promise to his source. that's something that is traditionally protected by california's shield law. what happened next? the police showed up with a sledge hammer, knocked down the door, searched his home for hours, seized lots of properties and only now two weeks later have police officers apologized and vowed to review the matter. joining me is the editor in chief of the san francisco chronicle. and ted is back with me. what have these past two weeks been like? >> they have been pretty crazy from our point of view. i think the initial outcry that came from the journalist in san francisco was one thing. our elected leaders were pretty quiet until we honestly badgered

them with weeks of coverage about this issue, which really goes to our fundamental rights as a local media organization to be able to critically cover our government. >> did the fact that brian is a freelance journalist, he works for multiple outlets gathering material and sharin it with local stations and outlet. is it the fact that he's freelance a factor here? if one of your reporters at the chronicle had their front door knocked in, would that have ever happened? you know, a freelancer versus is full-time staffer? >> if you asked me that a month ago, i would have said there is no way. we have some of the strongest laws in the nation in california protecting this. now to be honest with you, i'm not so sure. we have the same information that this freelancer had. the police department didn't choose to come after us. i think that's wise on their behalf. but they very easily could have. and i have to tell you, it scares me to death to think that

the police department would put so little intellectual thought into what they were doing in this case and that if they are going to apply that to a freelancer, they could just as easy apply it to me or the other journalists that work at the chronicle. >> ted, tell us the definition of shield law. was it violated in this case? >> brian, the shield law, the california shield law was clearly violated in this case. it's meant to shield the reporter's confidential services and published information of any type. it bars the government from getting search warrants to go storm a reporter's house like they did in this case and it precludes the courts from holding a reporter in contempt for not providing that information if they're subpoenaed. so this was just a blatant violation of the shield law. and i think it is part of a culture, a hostility towards journalism that is emanating

from the president through the country, and i think we need to focus on what's going on in local news rooms and with local reporters because they're feeling the same effects. and i think this is an example of that. i'm glad they are turning around and tech nirecognizing it was absolutely wrong. >> they say it should not have happened, but they only said that two weeks after the fact. to ted's point about this president, this shows it is not just republicans, not just conservatives who are, you know, willing to wage an assault on first amendment values. >> right. i think that's absolutely true. in san francisco, if you don't know, we don't have liberal and conservative. we have liberal and more liberal. there is not a single politician in town who would say they have anything to do with the president at all on any policy issue. >> right. >> so i think it is really true. it is not just this case. we have been covering abuses and attacks on the local press from our transit agencies, from the politicians from the police union itself, which is now

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welcome back. fox and friends weekend cohost pete is one of trump's biggest boosters on the air. and he also gives trump advice off the air. "the daily beast" reported that he was lobbying for the president to pardon members of the military who had been accused of war crimes. it seems like trump is at least considering that. here is what the president said in japan. >> it is a little bit controversial. it is possible i will let the trials go on and i will make my decision after the trial. >> once again, the fox trump feedback loop is in action here. i spoke with a veteran. now the host of the angry americans podcast. and asked him about this idea. i asked him if he was shocked or surprised to hear about the lobbies of trump. >> i wasn't surprised at all.

he was is an incredibly influential media personality. i know him from the veterans community. we have worked together in the past on some issues. but i think this underscores the power of this influence journalism that's coming out of the certain parts of the media, fox in particular. on the issue in particular, i think that's what should alarm all americans. i'm actually having a conversation with you about why it is a bad idea to pardon war criminals. it is a crazy idea. it is bad for our national security. it is bad for our troops and global standing. but right now apparently it is an idea the president is considering. i hope that just the same way he is getting pressure from the media to consider this, i hope he hears the echoes of just about everybody i have spoken to in the media who is prior service military and everyone in the veterans community that pardoning war criminals would be a bad move. >> bad move because -- and then we have to explain this, but go ahead. give us the explanation. >> think about it this way. if the president said, okay,

mass murders, jeffrey dahmer or someone like that can just walk free, there is no accountability. that's an extreme example. but we're talking about people who have been convicted of murdering civilians, violating the uniform code of military justice. if the president comes in and pardons these people, it says our troops are not bound by any rules. they can do what he want. he has to let military justice run its course. if you support the troops and the military, you have to trust them to take accountability for their own people. that's usually what they do. so for the president to come in and blow that up would really undermine the very good order and discipline of the military. it would also put our troops at risk. right now they're in iraq and afghanistan. if people in those countries think we can commit war crimes without accountability, they would not trust them. we go from being the good guy to the bad guys. it is like bizaro land.

but it's become our new normal. >> and the idea that the president hears this stuff from fox news personalities sometimes on the air, other times privately, on the phone or in meetings, that's part of what makes this world upside down. >> yeah. absolutely. i mean, if the president is listening right now, which i doubt he is, don't do this. bad idea. bad for america, bad for our troops. i don't care what pete or any other talking head says. this is bigger than a quick political win that it might afford you with your base. this is about america's sons and daughters. that's the bigger picture. we need to move towards a bigger teaching perspective. it covers how the president handles the media. he has to be more responsible in his tone because that does cascade not just across politics but across our military. how our president is viewed is how our military is viewed. right now they're already in harm's way and tough situations.

they don't need the president making it harder. >> we are coming up on the one year mark. what are we missing? what are we losing by not having pentagon briefings? >> think back to the gulf war where you had these briefings with slide shows. there was a degree of transparency that was expected in the modern age, expected with a modern media coverage. and now they have completely stone walled, the likes of which we have never seen in america. again, it undermines not just the trust with the political leadership but the public's trust with our military. >> yes, it does. all right. hear more from paul on this week's podcast on this memorial day coming up. we talked about news media coverage of war and peace. the panel is right back after this. this is rick blomquist of de pere, wisconsin. his life is... pretty comfortable.

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to say attention is the greatest currency of them all. attention is scarce. everyone wants it whether it's views and shaurs, interactions or engage ms, whether it's your data or vote. the president seems to understand this. he's always been savvy about manipulating the media attention. i bet he's noticed that the attention on him is waning a little bit, flickering out a little bit. check out this timeline of google searches for quote, trump, for the past 12 months. google calls this interest over time and you can see the downward trend. according to andrew tindal's research the number of trump sound bites is down. it's dropped by nearly a quarter in the past two months. people are over trump. whether they support him or they oppose him, they're just not as interested as they were, say, two years ago. these days when fox interviews trumps or airs his rallies live,

the ratings barely go up. when he tweets, people mostly shrug. what's he doing to win attention? he's swearing in public more often, picking fights, enlisting government officials to sing his praises in a single file line. he's tweeting more and more and more. check out trump's tweet activity this year versus last. in the last 30 days he has tweeted 664 times compared to 226 for the same time period last year. twitter is his playground. sometimes the news media is his playground too. i'm struck by some of the ways the democratic contenders are dealing with this. let me bring our panel back to wrap this up. guys, we heard from pete buttigieg this week saying the president wants and needs our attention. he means the publics' attention

as well as the media and the democratic field. how are you seeing the democratic candidates handle this? >> i think the thing we all need to understand -- and this is all dissent a little bit. this is not rational behavior by president trump. economy is strong, rates are low. any other president would have higher approval ratings. even donald trump would probably be a strong candidate for election if he had been silent since election day. the noise hurts him, but he can't help doing it. it's not rational behavior. that's the beginning of how to understand with it. pete buttigieg said this is fuel for donald trump. this is a supply to him. that explains his behavior. not a strategy or tactic. >> olivia, do you agree? it's irrational? >> well, i don't know if it's -- if i agree that it's irrational. i think that he -- when he

feels -- it's like at the rallies. when he feels the crowd no longer really engaged, he starts a chant that they're going to build the wall. i think he does that in a different way when it's just a news cycle, when it's a week where maybe he feels like other people are getting attention, he starts to lash out in a way that his base will respond to. i think one of the interesting things if you look at the 2020 field right now is now the different candidates are trying to deal with this. you have pete buttigieg saying that you can't let him suck up all the oxygen. you can't just be reacting to trump all the time. i'm paraphrasing. it has to be about something besides donald trump. you have other candidates like christian gillibrand who really is speaking about trump. buttigieg, he's talking about him a bit more as donald trump is attacking him personally, but he doesn't really use the name donald trump. he doesn't say it very much if you're with him on the trail which i think is interesting.

i don't know long term what will be effective strategy. and i think once they're sharing more space with donald trump and he is attacking the candidates by name more regularly maybe it'll be different. but i think because there is some trump fatigue, some of the candidates are afraid of talking about donald trump too much because donald trump's fatigue may mean that people are fatigued by anyone talking about donald trump. >> and you mentioned the rally. at the rally most recently, the president didn't like the fact that fox news has been running town halls with democrats. he criticized the pete buttigieg town hall. it's as if helps more attention from his greatest network. >> i would disagree here. i think it's strategy to distract from other reports. "the new york times" had a blockbuster report about trump's taxes and how he was one of the biggest losers in business. that story seems like it was

months ago because of all the news trump has made in the past week, fighting with pelosi or this group or that group. maybe he's tweeting more because there's more oversight about him. he feels more concerned about what the news is and he's trying to move the news off him. >> that's interesting. he's tweeting more. whatever the reason is, he's tweeting more. i'm sorry. i've got to fit in a break. a quick note, cnn is trying something new on memorial day. it's a television presentation of collin quinn's "red state blue state." its here on cnn. let us know what you thought of today's show. send me a tweet and we'll see you back here next week. there goes our first big order. ♪ 44, 45, 46... how many of these did they order?

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