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will probably always be a mess, but that ain't d.c.'s fault and whether you're on the left or the right or an opportunist, you have to support a city being allowed to decide what is good for itself. let d.c. be the wrath of god is in you,
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it fits you will not repent. that means to mock you, to taunt you and to give a strong rebuke. >> this one place here is the one state a woman can get an abortion and the people show up every day to harass women going in there which means it has to be one of the hardest days of a woman's life, these people show up to make it just that much harder. this week on "united shades of america" we're in jackson, mississippi. we're talking about childbirth, sex education and women's health overall and this. >> you spit on the cross, you hate god. >> no matter the side of the issue you're on, we have to agree this is totally [ bleep ] iz don't throw it around so i feel like i get one.
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one thing people worry about with trump is access to abortion. it's clear, we were right to worry. carry on, worriers. >> exposing and defunding america's killing machine. >> oak, look, i know it would be easy to do a show about the abortion debate. >> the left loves abortion. >> all fired up and people fighting on twitter. >> you're killing your child. >> when we started making the show, i thought we were doing that. >> there is no debate when life begins. >> we filmed a couple interviews with anti abortion activists.
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>> there is a debate there. >> you can watch them online but after spending a week in jackson, mississippi, i learned that a person's right to choose whether or not to have an abortion reproductive rights is just a small part of a bigger discussion reproductive justice so let's talk about the difference. reproductive justice is a social move the started by women of color that includes reproductive rights but it also looks at right to have a child, the right to not have a child, the right to parent the child you have, the right to control birthing options, the right to affordable health care, the right to comprehensive sex education and more and not just gender women, trans and non-bionary as well. you are googling. all that matters is the fetus. >> the life irrespective is worthy of the protection of our lawy laws. >> thanks marco. >> if you're a pregnant woman because there is what is inside
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of you is more important and as a separate person with individual rights you can be arrested, criminalized and prosecuted. if there is death to a fetus or harm. so when you really think about it, 15 to 20% women that become pregnant experience a pregnancy loss. all of these women whether they have an abortion, whether they have a miscarriage or stillbirth benefit from roe versus wade and deserving of their constitutional rights, human rights and dignity and respect. they are not getting it. >> yes, yes, that's where you come in. >> yes. >> this is erin williams, senior staff attorney at fighting for women. >> when we're talking about m s mississippi specifically, latice fisher is poor and a wife and experienced a pregnancy loss, a stillbirth at home. >> the grand jury indict as
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mother, the crime she's accused of committing, killing her newborn. >> there are a lot of different reasons why a woman in her situation would have a home birth. what is happening because of this concept that comes out of your vagina, you're responsible for it and you have to guarantee everything is perfect about it. she's being prosecuted and criminalized. you know, that's also true of a lot of other women like the case of angela carter who was a woman in d.c. who had been battling cancer off and on for many years as she ended up being pregnant. the hospital because she was pregnant, six months, 26 weeks pregnant decided we have to save the baby, we can't save her so over her objections, over her family's objections and treating ob's objections, they got a court order, performed the c-section and the baby came out, only lived for two hours and she died two days later. >> that's d.c. that's not mississippi. >> that's why i don't want
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anyone to think this is just mississippi. i don't want anyone to watch your show and think this is just the south. >> 35-year-old dre is the mother of three boys. her first two were delivered by c-section which involved difficult recoveries. so in 2011 she was determined to have her third naturally through vbac. >> she talked to her doctors about it on board. she goes in to have it because these are different doctors like no, no, no, we want you to have a c-section, i don't want it. they literally tie her down and cut her open and puncture her bladder. i know, that was -- when i heard this i was like where am i? [ laughter ] >> where am i? i'm in the united states. i'm in the united states. >> walking to the cell. >> what are we turning into? >> is that what we're thinking about? we have to think about what is wrong with us as a whole. where did we get broken?
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>> that's what followed me to this work, not just abortion but the ways in which i can be impacted by this ideology of women are supposed to put aside everything and constitutionally if you think about the constitution and gaining ko constitutional rights. when the 13th amendment was ratified, enslavement people were added to the constitution. white men in power did not lose their rights, though. if we add fetuses, embryo or fertilized eggs to say they are persons, they are personhood, they deserzefserve constitution rights, she will not have a right to liberty. tied down. she will not have a right to privacy ripped open. she will not have a right to free speech or due process or equal protection. so that you are literally ripping a woman out of the constitution which is the opposite of who roe did. >> what you talked about is what i learned, the difference
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between reproductive rights and reproductive justice and i never really understood as being different and we're not looking at this in a 360 degree way. >> yeah. you hear reproductive rights and say that's abortion. i don't need to think about abortion. it's put beautifully by audry lord who says that there is no single issue struggle because we're not single issue people. >> yeah. >> if you want healthy babies then you have to take care of the woman and make sure she's healthy. you can't focus on poverty and generational poverty wouithout thinking about the wage gap and reproductive health care, not just rights. all of these issues entinter se >> you can see them come together, inequities and injustice come together in the body of one pregnant woman. >> stop the patriarchy.
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>> cheerps.
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if we're going to talk about reproductive justice in mist mist we have to talk about fanny lou hamier. >> fanny lou hamier was the first woman of any race from mississippi to be an official delegate at the convention and first african american since reconstruction. in other words, she's a bad ass. what most people don't know is fanny lou had her own reproductive justice story. she was given a his tysterectom without her consent.
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her life's work inspired a generation of reproductive justice activism like jackson local, laurie. >> living legends are all over the place. >> in the street. >> yeah. >> >> fair street is history. >> he's head of the mississippi reproductive freedom fund and engaging since her teens. >> the people united will never be defeated. >> you know she had to show up at the kavanaugh hearings. i don't think as a whole we understand how much history came out of here for black people. >> not at all. >> there is certainties we focus on and jackson is not one of them. >> for all the time blue states love to crap on mississippi, the strategies that people are using to win their fights for zifrl rights and for equity and justice, without the fight of fanny lou and everyday people throughout the state, we wouldn't have all of the things
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we have today. >> so can you talk about how you came to this work? >> one day while i was here in jackson, i was asked to come to reproductive justice training and because i don't want people to think i'm stupid. i said girl, great. i had to go home and google it and i was like this is the dopest thing i've heard of. it's focused on rights, on human rights. it starts and ends at parenting is a human right. access to health care is a human right including abortion, including birth control, including the right to be sexual is a human right, right? for pleasure, not for procreation is a human right. those are things that i had never heard before and so i didn't know what reproductive justice was but i was living reproductive justice. i'm a d.v. survivor and rape survivor and insist survivor and molestation survivor.
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i had seven children when i was 25. i almost died when i had a miscarriage at a catholic hospital. i went through false allegations with cps. i remember sitting in the training and i cried during that training. they had to stop because i was weeping. it resonated with me in my spirit. so i'm here to fight for that every day. >> there is a part of this you're involved in, the inter sexuality of these. we made the mistake of almost putting the disability community separate from the rest of us. >> we walk among you. >> yes, you do. you do. i learned that. >> one of the things that it makes it easier for me to talk about the intersections between access to health care and the disability community and how we disproportionally get bad care and put race on top of that and class on top of that and where you live on top of that, you're talking about just multiple
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barriers and multiple oppressions. one of the things i talk about is how hard it is for disabled people to access abortion care because abortion care is not built for people with disabilities, right? a hoya lift to get people on a table or a table that goes down far enough or any of those things, right? so all of these kinds of barriers are the barriers we talk about a lot and if you talk about reproductive rights and reproductive health access and being recognized as a sexual being is another level of w.t.f. welcome to mississippi. this ain't oakland, brah. >> this ain't oakland, is right. mississippi is number one in all the wrong things. it's number one in infant mortality and gonorrhea and cla media and syphilis and number two in teen pregnancy thanks to bad sex education and mississippi is bad at the stuff
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if you have all those issues, why are you screwing up sex-ed? you have bigger fish to fry and you like frying fish, you might be number one in fish frying. >> sex education should be made as simple as a, b, c. >> sex-ed laws in mississippi mandate a lot of things. first, they separate the kids by gender. as if there is only two genders plus in the me too era shouldn't we all be in the same room talking about this stuff. >> you want to know about sexual intercourse, that happens like this. >> after the group's are separated all they are allowed to talk about is abstinence or abstinence plus. abstinence is what it sounds like, kids, don't have sex and because of mississippi, they throw god in there. kids doesn't have sex because god said so. and abstinence plus is didn't we just said god said don't have sex. >> i did see what you were doing. >> the plus means they are
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allowed to talk about contraception. >> it's wrapped in a paper. >> they can't tell you how to use it and certainly not doing demonstrations but the state of mississippi doesn't control what i do so people of mississippi, here is how you put on a condom. now you never have to worry about a banana getting you pregnant. you're welcome. it ain't up to me to say sex-ed in mississippi. despite what they were told got on the internet and figured it out for themselves. called teen health, mississippi, today they have come to the state capital to draft a sex-ed bill they hope becomes a law and they are modelling their bill after california sex-ed laws. my home state has to show the nation how it's done. remember when you guys smoked in restaurants. >> i joined it because i saw the problem in my school. there was an abstinence class and my p.e. teacher yelling sex is bad. there wasn't anything about lgbt education or anything like that, especially alienated me because
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i was beginning to question my sexuality but what about girls? will they do the same thing to me? will i have the same response? >> i realized if i had training about healthy relationships, consent, what is like a good healthy relationship between two people in a relationship romantically would have changed the course of my life and my peer's lives. >> we're talking about the physical nature of sex? and so much of it is about the value of a healthy relationship and the positive value of a healthy relationship versus the negative value. >> we leave that out using abstinence only. >> especially in mississippi. i was left in this space of there could only be negative things about sex. there was nothing positive. i remember having a poster on the wall that was like circle of emotion like grief, shame, guilt after you had sex. >> but none of them were just like joy. had fun. i'll call you.
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while i was in jackson i kept hearing about one person in the reproductive world amanda a spoken word poet and activist with a hell of a story.
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right now you literally represent women's reproductive abilities you're in the middle of it now. >> amanda and her husband dexter have four kids but getting ready to have their first baby together. let's go back to the beginning. what was sex education class like growing up here? >> as far as it goes, if you kiss somebody you get pregnant, if you get pregnant, i ain't raising it. like. >> the wonder of human sexuality in two sentences. >> exactly. so, you know, that was also this other not so cool thing where you take home the baby or the sack of potatoes -- i don't know what y'all took. >> we had a five pound bag of sugar. >> i thought that only happened in tv shows like sitcoms from the '80s. >> we had sugar babies. >> mississippi is a sitcom from the '80s. >> i thought that was only on "the facts of life". >> no, sir. >> so we had those babies but we
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didn't have like the education around sex. >> while amanda grew up in mississippi she started her adult life in chicago where things were very different. >> i say this is where i came of age and started exploring myself as a sexual being and become a woman. i was with this guy and that was my first relationship where i was just very physical intimately and we got pregnant and he asked me so what do you want to do about it? that was the first time i heard that language. like what do you mean? you get pregnant and have babies, that's it. he's like no, you don't have to have a baby if you don't want to. i was like, i thought about it like you're right. i don't want to have a baby. so i went through the termination, promised myself i'll never do this again. then two years later, i met this guy that i thought i loved. the first time we had sex, i was pregnant. this guy was like oh, we're not
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having a baby. and i was like what? it was devastating. so i terminated that pregnancy. i guess maybe a year, year and a half later i was pregnant again and i knew, i just -- i cannot terminate this pregnancy. >> you already committed the yourself next time i'm doing it. >> that i got to do it. emotionally it was just terrible. my partner was just not a partner. it was pretty bad. when titan was born, i felt this huge sense of relief. it was pretty traumatic from pregnancy to labor and delivery to now we have a kid. i didn't have anybody in my life that was with me other than my partner who was toxic. we ended upcoming back to jackson to get out of this toxic situation. i just had a chance to really experience the world. so coming back here, it was
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traumatic for me to come back here and being like okay, but i didn't know at the time i was pregnant. by the same partner. i felt like because of the trama around titan, why would i have another baby? i barely taking care of this baby. >> yeah. >> i saw an ad that was like if you think you're pregnant, we can help. for me that was like i know what this means. >> amanda thought she was going to an abortion clinic. instead, one of the millions of women around the country who are tricked to going to places like these. this say crisis pregnancy center in west virginia run by anti abortion activist and their goal is to get you to go here as opposed to the actual abortion clinic over here. confusing, right? >> i had my mom take me to this little clinic place. they put me in a room. now this room has like religious stuff around. [ laughter ] >> right? >> which a room has to be really
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religious in the south for somebody to say it's religious because everyone has some stuff. >> exactly. so like an old black lady comes in. >> they brought the closer in. the old black lady. >> old black lady comes in like oh, well, is this your first pregnancy? no. this is not my first pregnancy. >> yes. >> i have a baby and then she said do you have a picture of your baby? and i take out a picture of my son on my cell phone. she says now what if somebody killed titan? yes. at that moment i was like oh, this must be what hell is like. [ laughter ] >> like because now i'm upset. look, i'm going to terminate this pregnancy. she said well, we have to go through steps. you have to come back here to get the information for another appointment. >> this is all lies. >> because i hadn't looked at the like abortion laws and timelines here in mississippi because i feel like --
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>> why would you do that? >> why would i do that? >> let's look at the timelines. mississippi like many other states says you have to get an abortion by 20 weeks but last year they tried to get it down to 15 weeks and this year it's been proposed it should be six weeks but the crisis pregnancy centers' goal is to confuse and district you until it's too late for you to have the abortion that they had no intention of giving you in the first place. >> by the time i came through i knew it was over. it's over. there is no way i'm going to be able to terminate this pregnancy. >> you herealized -- >> i realized it was over. i was postpartum depressed and depressed about having another baby and being in this situation. so i was really dead. just dead. just a walking zombie and i don't even know how titan survived it. i wasn't a real person during that time. i was just doing what i had to do. >> you need a boost?
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you ready? >> when mega was born, he was a beautiful little baby. he cried, he was perfect. >> can i ask a question? >> uh-huh. >> did you ever have regrets about the two pregnancies you terminated? >> yes and no. yes, because i knew that they were -- they had the potential to be this person but then no because i don't know. it was so early. >> you don't think of those as babies? >> yeah, it might sound like harsh but this is this misconception why people have abortions or what they mean and you have to think like if a woman feels like she has to go through these hoops and expose herself to these opinions and thoughts and ideas in her own best interest, how can you not respect that? >> so how different is this pregnancy from all that odyssey
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we just talked about? >> it's kind of full circle because he said what do you want to do? that was my first indication that my body belongs to me. this is my decision. and that was very powerful for me. and so when he said that, i was like, i guess we having a baby. >> there is a difference between what are you going to do and what you going to do. you've been quiet. i assume you've heard these details before otherwise you might have questions. >> what? what? [ laughter ] >> cut the cameras. everybody out. [ laughter ] >> i know. >> i feel like i went through like a mini series or something. [ laughter ] >> feel like i should have paid admission to this ride. s? flonase relieves your worst symptoms including nasal congestion, which most pills don't. flonase helps block 6 key inflammatory substances. most pills only block one. flonase.
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today i'm going to the only place in the entire state of mississippi where a person can get an abortion, the pink house. due to the nature of mississi i mississippi's laws and doctors available, they only see patients three days a week so it's pretty quiet around here, no patients, no protesters. i didn't know what to expect but i found a bunch of bad ass women busy at work like the owner. >> ultrasounds are done here and this tells us exactly where she is in the pregnancy. we go to 16 weeks here in this
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clinic. after that, if she's further along, she has to go to another state. >> you can come here, think you're 15 weeks, find out you're 16 weeks after you've done gone through the process and have to go to another state. >> and start the process over and as states continually pass these things, it makes it more difficult. >> a growing number of states increased the regulations on abortion clinics from state mandated counseling to parental consent. all that is added up to clinics struggling to remain open. currently there are seven states that only have one abortion clinic. >> this has been like the canary in the coal mines, you know, knowing that whatever they are expert menimenting with here is coming to you soon. when one out of four women in this country have had an abortion, chances are good someone you know has been through someone's doors like this. and it should be a positive
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experience. for me, it's just such a privilege to be with someone who needs someone during a difficult period of their life. does a fetus have any value? absolutely. but that woman is the living human being and we never take our eyes off of that. you know, that is what is important. >> now let's meet my favorite person in jackson, ms. betty. >> it was happenstance that brought me here in '95 i retired from mist miss misstate governm. they said you have free time, help the ladies at the clinic. okay. i did that. after a few years, i was director here before i retired in october '04. >> so i've heard you mention the word retire twice since we've been talking. >> yeah. i keep doing that. >> why do you keep doing this work? >> i guess i enjoy what i'm doing and feel like i'm making a difference. >> i can't tell how old you are
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because good black don't crack. >> you are the smartest man i know. >> you must have -- if you retired in '95. >> i'm 71 this year. one of the things i've been doing here lately, i have some voter registration forms and before i talk to my group, i offer them those forms and then my next one is birth control and then i go into the counseling session. it's all connected. it's all connected and my mantra people in my generation died for this. people in my generation were beaten for this. and so i don't care if they don't want to hear it, i tell them anyway. >> down the hall from ms. betty is the director of the clinic shannon with her many duties, she's steady watching the cameras for protesters. >> these people are very dangerous. believe it or not, a lot of them are on terrorist lists. we keep a dossier. this is spread throughout the united states. everyone that's pro-choice, they have copies of these.
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these people are a lot of people that are out here. >> wow. that's crazy. >> i'll tell you this, i don't mind if you don't keep looking at the camera. >> i don't know how to not do it. >> i feel safe. >> shannon got her start here when she came in for a part time job but later found out what was at stake and she ended uptaking it all personally and that's already on top of being a mother of six. >> you were an incredibly strong person to do this work every day. what makes you keep doing the work? >> because it's needed. once you realize why you're here, it's hard to leave. i know patients need this place. i know people need abortions. i know people need to be able to make that choice by themselves. people don't get -- when you've never been in certain situations, you don't get it. when these women come in here, i get it because a lot of situations i've been in, i get it. it's like how can you judge me?
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how dare you judge me? you know, it's like we've had people just stand over there and have to come here years later and, you know, it's like you don't wake up and say man, i think i'm going to go have an abortion today. that's not the point of it and they don't get that. they don't get it. i had to learn that my job was not to convince those people. my job was to help hold up the ones that were trying to walk in, help let them know they can hold their head high and it's okay. so i don't -- every now and then i go and cutss a few of them ou. >> i've been staring at the streen lo screen long enough. i need to get out of the system back here staring at the screen. >> yeah, i needed that break. i feel better. yeah, i do that. >> i had a great time talking to these ladies. let's be honest, this is not a regular day here. so we went back the next day.
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while there were a lot more protesters, i noticed something. it's thinning out over here. i think it's the cameras. look, the family is levering. if we come every day, we could actually help solve this problem. they should just hire fake camera people to show up with empty boxes. >> you are killing your child. >> let's keep it 100, these videos recorded by volunteer clinic workers. >> are you a christian? >> are a lot more like to typical day. >> today could be the day a crazy man comes and kills you. >> you can google it yourself. >> the behavior here is behavior you would never see from adults anywhere else. >> instead let's talk to kim, dirinda. they deal with this crap all the time. you're volunteering. >> absolutely. >> you're not on the payroll. >> no. >> i am like where is my check? >> i moved recently and they didn't get my address. >> exactly.
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>> tell me what your job here is. >> we are here to escort patients from their car to the clinic. the women have to walk at the end of this street over a block away and walk back up. they will stalk them. >> wow. this is so intense. so what made you decide to do this? >> i think it's a woman's choice. she should have that choice and it frustrated me that they are accessing health care and they are out there yelling at them and i thought they shouldn't have to walk back alone. >> yeah. >> so i need to be here. it's a shame. i shouldn't have to be but as long as they are on the sidewalk interfering with a woman's right to choose, i'll be here. >> you're soldiers in someway. you're like protecting the fort. >> we are. they are still going to stand here but we're not going to let them be comfortable. if you want to harass our patients, you have to earn it. >> i'm sweating from the heater just from the pressure of the
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thanks for the ride-along, captain! i've never been in one of these before, even though geico has been- ohhh. ooh ohh here we go, here we go. you got cut off there, what were you saying? oooo. oh no no. maybe that geico has been proudly serving the military for over 75 years? is that what you wanted to say? mhmmm. i have to say, you seemed a lot chattier on tv. geico. proudly serving the military for over 75 years. you ok back there, buddy?
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while it's true the state of mississippi is as red as can be,
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jackson a blue dot in the sea of red. i kaug tcaught the mayor after state of the union to see what he thinks is going on with the clinic. >> i greatly disagree with the way people have been harassed as they have entered into that women's health clinic and that's something that we are focused on on eradicating. >> he said something many women in my life wish more men would say. >> i cannot tell a woman what she can or cannot do. >> i'm trying not to hug you. [ laughter ] >> and men who love telling women what to do especially love it when it involves two words, plan parenthood. what would you say to someone that says why go to planned parenthood, they are abortionest. why go there? >> i would have been happy to do that except the only other place that was offering health care for uninsured people would not give them to me. so where is this magical other place? >> where is this magical? >> perhaps in the "harry potter"
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books? >> this is don doo gle. before some of you get too judging about her birth control, slow down. >> when i was 19, i told my mom my period is not normal. i've -- this has been going on for five years. all of my girlfriends, they know what aunt flow is coming for a visit and i have no idea. it's always a big surprise every time. she said that's not good. and so she knew something was wrong. we went to the obg brks grks yb and they found i had polypolycy ovaries. my body is super stubborn and hangs on to things, hanging the eggs and forming a big cyst. >> according to the cdc it affects up to 5 million women in the u.s. pcos is a lifelong health condition with many serious consequences. >> the doctor said look, you
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know, it's a good thing we caught it early. we need to put you on medicine and that's birth control pills and fine and dandy until i was unemployed and i was about to run out of pills and so there was a free clinic and i went there and the guy rushed in and does the blood pressure looking at my face and ears and said okay, you're good. i said well, actually, i also need these two prescriptions filled and one of them is birth control pills. he says birth control pills? we don't do that here but planned parenthood does. here is the number. >> we don't do that here? >> we don't do that here. that's not my jam. peace out. >> that's not medicine we get involved with. >> i thought okay, i made my appointment with planned parenthood. never having been to planned parenthood before. i found it because the protesters were outside. didn't occur to me that where i'm going is a very controversial place to go. >> look for the protesters. >> look for the protesters. >> because you're not going for the i don't want to have a baby
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side of it which is your business if that's true -- >> i need this for my health and this is the only place i can get it without having health insurance. so park the car, walked through these propest toers in my spacf screaming, baby killer, you need to give your baby a second >> i got three months worth of pills for $3 and walked out through the protesters. >> planned parenthood is one of the nation's leading providers of health care. only 3% of their work is abortions. is rest is sti and hiv testing and treatment, support groups, hormone replacement therapy and cancer screenings for everyone. but, hey, if you just want to go
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for birth control pills or an abortion, that's fine, too. >> when the three months ran out, i couldn't face them again. so i told my dad. and being daddy's girl, as a grown ass woman, my dad went and picked them up for me. >> that's dad goals for me. >> that's how we roll. >> that's how i want to be a dad. >> not everybody has the options of asking somebody else. >> they don't. >> a lot of people talk about the impact of how it affects poor women of color, especially black women. you don't seem like you are in that category. i'm not trying to shame your finances. but i think you as this person who is not thinking in those ways and not prepared to have doors closed to you is having doors closed to you. >> there are certain groups that don't have that. it is either based on where they
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before i left town, i went back to talk to my new friend who wented to meet at her organization, the mississippi freedom information fund. >> when people need to come into town to have an abortion, with pay for gas, hotel rooms, people's medication. we give people direct money in their hand for their procedures and we also help them get birth control if they want it after their procedure. >> abortion is one part of what you do but certainly not all of it. >> not all. we started helping people who are parenting. so we give away diapers. we do work with racial justice. we have bailed people out of jail who have been prosecuted in reproductive justice ways. we bailed out a woman for her pregnancy outcome. in a lot of ways we's like a grass roots social service
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agency than an abortion fund. >> it is just about supporting women where they need support. ultimately, to me, that's what i think about when i think about the south. there is a very strong community of like what do you need. i got you. and i would like people to think about that when they think of mississippi. >> when i moved here, i was escaping a domestic violence relationship, right? the whole plan for me was to establish my life and come get my mom and my kids and i was going to go to graduate school. when i came here, i commuted back and forth to home, my hom kept my kids. then my mom got sick. when that happened, my roommate let me live on their property for free for the first month. we stayed out there the whole summer. my church members here took up a collection for me to make sure
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my kids could get new clothes, birthday gifts. people who had gossiped about me and like i didn't think i liked took up and got me supplies for my house when i moved. the next semester at jackson, they made sure i got a house and they made sure i got things. there is a spirit of love and connection and looking out for folks in the south that you can't really explain. and that's how we have survived. there is no coincidence that's how black folks are down here, right? >> now, are you currently funded well enough to take care of all the women to reach out to you. >> i know you real funny. >> thanks. the answer to that question is hell no. >> yeah, yeah. so it may be a surprise to you
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that mississippi has a ton of people doing the work for reproductive justice. but they need a lot more. if we just focus on the birth of a child, then we leave out everything that happens before and after they're born. why am i trying to tell you how this works. bring in my close you are. >> how many of you have to be concerned. not only do we have to be concerned about hunger. but we also have to be concerned about peace in this country and people being shot down in the streets in the name of law and order, the education has got to be changed. and you young people are going to have to help make this change because you know as well as i know that america is sick and man is on the critical list.
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we have to stand up and figure out how to make things right for everyone in this country. if you think you are free, you drive down to mississippi and you will see what i'm talking about. i'm not sure that he understands now the gravity of what he has done. >> by the time you know what you are getting into, it is too late. >> how do you prepare yourself for staring across the table to somebody that has taken the life of your child. >> she has a lot of unanswered

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