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when it comes to burden of responsibility. the nepal ease government has some. the climbing companies have some. but there is a burden of responsibility, wolf on the climbers themselves. >> arwa damian on the scene. good reporting as usual. thank you very much. to our viewers, thanks for watching. erin burnett outfront starts right now. outfront next, breaking news, democrating about to cross trump's red line demanding financial documents from his companies and they want to hear directly from the president. plus trump says the chinese will pay for the tariffs he imposed. but a new poll shows americans aren't buying it. and found alive after 17 days. the merkelous story of a hiker who survived sleeping in a wild boar cave. the hiker speaking out tonight. let's go outfront. and good evening to all. i'm erin burnett outfront the breaking news a new line of attack. in this court filing late today democrats asking a judge to force trump to start handing over personal and business
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financial records from banks. the trump organization, its hundreds of subsidiaries and the president's personal trust. and they want it all to start coming in june. and they want trump himself to answer questions. oh, by the way, they want a lot of others to go under oath, many from deep inside trump's inner circle, members of his organization. other corporations. it's the most expansive demand yet from exacts. a and it's way over trump's red line. in fact, that is a line that increasingly looks like it will be broken. we know the president is making money from hundreds of businesses while serving as president. that's a fact. the consumer advocacy group public citizen did digging by looking at the president's federal financial disclosures. ands in really interesting. what they found, trump did remove his name as the owner of more than 50 oh assets one becoming president. but -- >> trump can point to his 2017 disclosure and say, i'm no longer listed as an owner, right. and he'd be right on paper. >> on paper.
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but not in reality. the truth, the public citizen found, the assets trump trumpsed ownership to can be traced back to one person. and that one person is president trump. the president's lawyer, even admitted to pro puka that trump can access that money from that trust, his sons are supposed to be in charge of, any time president trump wants. which means trump still has a vested interest in making sure his businesses are doing well. businesses that receive money every single day. from people trying to influence and curry favor from the president. and in a moment i'm talking to one of the exacts who is a plaintiff in the lawsuit. but first abby phillip is outfront riff outside the wlous. and abby any response from the president on the new demands from the markets which are truly on paper here, the most expansive we have seen yet. >> well, erin, no response yet directly from the white house who has in the past been leaving the responses to the president's personal attorney and to the justice department as these lawsuits proceed. and in this particular case, the
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justice department is making the argument that this is a case that will take up too much of the president's time, particularly this part you just mentioned where the democrats actually do want to talk to president trump. they've been pushing back on this notion the president has time for that. but beyond that, this is clearly a case that is going toward something the president has been trying to protect for a long time, his personal finances, his business finances which are now under the control of his children and in lawsuit as part of what the president believes is an effort by democrats to try to poke at him in a thousand different ways going after his finances in all these different avenues. and so we can expect the president is going to push back on this. but ultimately the decision might be in the hands of judges, a federal judge. and already we have seen how the president responded when the judges do not rule in his favor. he accused them of being biased and political in nature. but that's how the system works. and that's where this thing might end up being worked out
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erin. >> thank you abby. no doubt democrats hoping for vikts like last we can. on accounting and bank information. outfront now democratic congressman david cicilline. he is a democrat signed on the lawsuit. he sits on the house judiciary committee. thanks if for being with me congressman. this seems to boil down to reading through the 11-beige filing, and see you want the president's personal and business financial records. you want to start getting them in june, as soon as june. is there anything off limits? >> well, i think it's important, erin, to recognize that this grows out of in very basic principle that we need confidence that the president of the united states is making decisions in the best interests of the country and not because of some financial stake or because of some financial gain. pan so when we know for sure that the president received 38 trademarks from the chinese government, gnat chinese government and the uae are renting space at trump tower, that diplomats have been renting
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hotels, foreign governments paying for them at trump properties, it raises serious questions as to whether or not in violates a prohibitition in the constitution that prevents the president from taking things of value from foreign governments. the reason that prohibitition exists in constitution is we want confidence the president is acting in the best interests of the american people and not for some financial interest. this president has seen being president as a money-making operation. these are some examples. our lawsuit is designed to have the court make that determination. >> all right. in the filing it talks about what you want from president trump himself and that includes, quote, discovery, plaintiffs may need to direct towards the president himself concerning his personal financial records and to identify initial sources for third party subpoenas. in other words who else do you want to get information from? how hard will you fight to hear from president trump himself? an interview? >> well, i think it's going to be very important. look, this is a president who has refused to divest himself
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which has been the practice of every other president taking office. this is a president refusing to disclose tax returns, broken with the practice for the last 50 years. we have very little information about the president's finances. but what we know is that he has used his position to generate, you know, profits for his companies that he has gained from personally. that is a clear violation of the constitution. in lawsuit is going to tempt attempt to get at that question and have the court determine whether or not the president is violating the constitution by enrichg himself because of his position and preventing him from continuing to do that. >> right, just to be clear, any information we have does not include, negotiatioyou know, fo what groups, foreign governments who have stayed at hotels or properties how much money that is we don't know but the fundamental question is whether people are paying to play or trying to pay to play. >> trying. >> we know they are trying. >> that's right. there's been reporting that diplomats have said out loud we
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stay at the trump hotels because we think it helps us curry favor with the president and his government. that's just dead wrong. that should not be happening. our constitution prohibits it. and the president ought not be engaging in activities that are enriching him and again at the same time he is dealing with some very difficult issues with some of -- whether the chinese or others. in is not appropriate practices for a president. >> so, you know, some of the numbers we have, the trump -- trump's financial disclosure forms claim he made $40 million from the trump hotel in washington, that property in 2017. the trump organization says that it voluntarily wrote a collect to the u.s. treasury for $191,000 a the weeks year. a little more than a who until from one year. but any say the foreign governments from all properties around the year of 2019 was $$191,000. do you think that's possibly true or would you go so far as to say they are hiding something or lying or are you not there.
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>> we don't know. that's the reason you have discovery in a lawsuit. the fact is, payments of any kind are inappropriate from a foreign government to the president of the united states. and so as part of the discovery process we'll learn the magnitude -- both the amount of money and frequency of the payments from a variety of foreign governments. but what's really at stake is the fundamental -- there is so much cynicism about government. people think people in government are doing it for their benefit to somehow advantage themselves. and our constitution doesn't permit that. so at the core is we want to demonstrate that if you are privilege enough to hold public office you have to act in the public interest not in self-interest. that's what the lawsuit is base, the president has seen this as a money-making operation. >> is it fair to say that you would -- i mean, maybe i'm state wlag most think is obvious -- but that you think if you're saiv or china if your name is out there as going and staying at the hoe pel with the, the trump hotel and american people know about it you'd be less likely to do it because ut be
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outed. >> you'd hope so unless you thifrmg it's it benefits you with the president on you're getting some response to the pending issue. you're not caring. most of the folks aren't running for office in the u.s. they may not care what the united states thinks. but they care what the president thinks. that's why this is a dangerous practice and our our constitution prohibits it. >> i was laying out the trust, the donald j. trump revocable trust. in the day before taking office he left the management of the business foss his sons. obviously he kept ownership in the trust as we showed public citizen had done thatwork. his lawyers say he can take out money at any time. pan part of it is because we never had a president with a business like this. would this be acceptable for any other president with this situation. >> of course not. look. no one suggest nas the president isn't a businessman and didn't have a prior successful business or a number of them. but that's a different question as to whether or not he should be able to use his office to receive payments from foreign governments. there is something particularly dangerous about that.
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and our founders prohibited because they wanted to be sure the president couldn't be influenced by payments from foreign governments. and as a result of that get some favorable treatment that may be contrary to the public interest. . but in his own self-or financial interest. his success as a businessable domestically is irrelevant. what matters is what happens with with respect to payments from foreign governments attempting to endeers themselves to this president or receive favorable treatment and the president's willingness to continue taking money from foreign governments prohibited by our constitution. >> right a and of course refusal to lay out profits from which governments any say that $191,000 which they say it zblud by the way he is allowed to take payments from foreign governments if it's approved by congress. he has not sought nor received approval from congress to receive any of the payments. >> thank you very much congressman cicilline, appreciate your time. >> my pleasure. >> and next a new study showing president trump's tax cuts don't seem to be living up to the hype.
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tonight americans don't believe president trump. he keeps saying this. >> we'll be taking in over a period of time hundreds of billions of dollars in tariffs and charges to china. >> our country can take in $120 in tariffs paid for mostly by china by the way. not by us. we're taking in billions of dollars from mcin the form of tariffs. we are collecting billions and billions of dollars, mostly paid for by china. >> but americans are not as gullible as the president seems to think with comments like that, because in a new poll 62% say american consumers will be the ones paying tariffs and only 23% say chinese companies will pay for them. a new york fed study of course found the tariffs will cost the typical american household $831 a year. nas a lot of money. and the reason is is because pretty much the which a tariff works is you charge somebody a tariff and they just go hey, 25%
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do the price of the good. the buyer is the american consume like a tax that tax increase could wipe ou benefits americans see from the president's tax cuts. a new study from the non-partisan congressional research service found those tax cuts have not boosted the economy as much as the president hoped. among findings a small effect on the economy in terms of growth and ordinary workers with very little growth in wage rates. outfront now catherine rampel from the "washington post" and cnn political commentator. an informal adviser to the white house on the tax ruts. catherine, do you think the tariffs could wipe out the benefits of the tax cut if you look at numbers like $831 a year. out you're right there. >> certainly they will weigh on the growth of the economy. we have two studies now not just the new york fed study but a second one as well by a team of top notch economists who also found that 100% of the tariffs so far are being passed along to americans not paid by chinese
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producers not paid by european producerers and the others we have already also engaged in a trade war with. they are passed along to consumers. yes, certainly they are weeping out a large portion of whatever demandside effect of the least you see from the tax cuts. >> adam to this point i know you are concern about this too. >> taxes are tariffs. and if the tariffs cost $800 to the average american that's wiping out almost half of what we estimate the -- estimate the average american gets because of the tax cuts. lower taxes for typical americans by about $1400 in that one year. and not even taking into consideration all of the economic benefits that are still to come because of the larger economy higher wages. >> right all of which of course can be -- if you look at these are different numbers and estimates but if you take both of them $831 of the 1400 is gone off bat. obviously oversimplifies but an important point. the new study by the
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congressional research service is hoeing the tax cuts to pint of adam. is not doing as much as the president is saying with his words like massive. here he is. >> at the heart of america's revival are the massive tax cuts that i signed into law a year ago. they are like rocket fuel for america's economy. >> and thanks to our historic tax cuts and reform everybody here got a tax cut. everybody. >> we have so many companies coming into the united states because of my plan and the tax cuts and the tax plan it's called really tax cut and jobs plan. >> rocket fuel, catherine. >> i think the take away from this congressional research service report is the following that it's been really impressive actually in that we have somehow managed to spend $1.5 trillion to not sbpgsly boost growth, to not substantially boost wages and to not substantially boost capital investment. like what is it exactly that we are doing other than
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transferring a massive a wealth basically away from future taxpayers into the pockets of today's shareholders. >> what do you, adam, 1.5 trillion where did it go. the tax cuts were about making american workers and a the people employ them more prouvgt over the long run. the report did say that it did boors database did the the tax cuts boosted voechlt. it did have a small it said impact on the economy. i think the impact is much larger but what's really important is how that impact compounds over time. when you sort of spool this out over 5, 10, 20 years that makes a significant difference to the average american worker. and we're already seeing those benefits today. especially for those folks who need it most. the wage growth for folks at the bottom, the lowest income americans is double wage growth at the top. and we can debate as to whether or not there is from the deregulatory agenda or the tax cuts or something else. but the economy is doing really well. >> this actually is an important
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question. and i want -- i want to try to get to the answer, right. because if you're right that increase at the bottom double that of the top is come from policies of the president is significant. catherine my country to you is how do we no it's important we find for you to because the other thing that's happening is the democratic lirpgts are pushing minimum wages to 15 which could be use causing the inside we testimony which could be the democratic legislature and governors. >> it's hard though des entangle the effects. but i think the keeping in mind is the mechanic imts by which the supporters of the tax cut arpged that it boosted the economy. the argument was 2002s censusivize them to invest in capital equipment. as a result of that you see higher growth and wages and productivity. and if you don't that mechanism how can you attribute the other down the line effects, the good things we have seen low
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unemployment how can you attribute it to the tax cut if the thing getting us from point a to b isn't happening. >> adam what's your response? the rorpt says there were the bonusing maybe it was companies trying to show trump they were doing what he wanted them to do. but that was at the beginning. and then the bonuses didn't happen the next year not all the companies gave wage increases where did they put the tax cuts. >> the bonuses wereperson but that's not the mechanism by which the tax cuts are supposed to make americans better off. we did see over the 2016 trend pretty significant upticks in non- -- in non-residential business investment we saw upticks in pu business applications to start new businesses. i mean, there is ample evidence that the pro-growth policies of this administration. >> not the last couple quarters. >> are making -- >> but that initial investment is what boosts the long run as economists say steady state of the economy up one notch and then we continue on compounding
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those gains year over year. and that whaer what we are seeing. >> you're saying. >> that's whys in key to. >> this initial trying are didn't happen. we saw a noise increase in investment the first quarter after the tax cuts were passed. which probably would have been things that would have been set in motion before the tax cuts happened, right so it's hard to say businesses were suddenly able to build this factory or what have you. like in the next month after the tax cuts passed. >> no not necessarily one of the. >> we is. >> with we don't see that we saw, you know, equipment investment following. we saw an increase in ip investment but, again that's not the mechanism we are talking. >> about. >> final word dma the lower rate allowing businesses to write off new investment in the year they are made. this is something that is immediate and we did see both before the tax cuts because it was visible retroactively and right after. and it's too early to tell all
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of the great news from the law. but the initial reports i think the american people are feeling it and see going. >> the law encouraged people to go back in time and change the decisions they had already made that doesn't make zbleens the way it's reported on the statistics that you're looking at does confuse which quarter it's made depending on how it's been registered on the balance sheet, yes. >> we'll hit pause for that for now and next republican justin amash the only republican in congress calling for trump's impeachment ramps up attacks in a townhall tonight. >> clearly things that violate the public trust are impeachable. >> plus jeanne on navy pilots going public with mid-air encounters with ufos. >> oh, my gosh. >> look at that. >> maria ramirez?
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i'll pass. new tonight, president trump defending his tweet with where he sided with kim jong un over joe biden. of course this is not the sort of thing one could summarize or explain let's reed it hear here is trump. i was sticking up for sleepy joe guyeden on foreign soil. kim jong un called him a low iq idiot and many other things where he remoted the kwoelt as a much spofter low iq individual who could be the upset with that in who after team biden fired back with a statement saying the president president's comment are beneath the dignity of the office. being on foreign soil with a murder ours dictator against a frrm vice president speaks for itself haul this began with a
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tweet in japan where he said quote i have confidence that chairman kim keep his promise. and called biden a low iq individual. former president bill clinton and rick santorum. senator you love nights this, right. >> i look forward to talking about donald trump's latest tweets. >> okay. all right. this, though, is you know about the current by far front runner for the democratic nomination, former vice president. this is all true. and the president has come out and side, you know, he called him a low iq idiot. i call him a low iq individual. i was defending him you blow it off and laugh it off? is that how you see it? >> you know, go back to the debates from a few years ago where he had a nickname for everybody. and you know -- and it was low
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energy jeb and go on -- i mean that's what he does. and the fact that he referenced kim jong un -- i mean, that -- i think that's -- that -- i understand i wouldn't did it. i think it's a bad thing to do. i wouldn't do the name calling. but that's his sh tick. and he is not going to change zbhoo he is not going to change. paul what do you make of it, though, the response tonight? >> well, it's baloney. the name calling i think rick is right that's a sh tick and doesn't work any more. but this is different. . he sidewood a murderous stahl inicht dictator against a american. any american, left or right be democrat or republican. i hope folks dom come to visit washington during the summer when you come folks go to the national mall a few yards southwest of mall is korean war memoryual. beautiful, haunting, 19 guys in uniform. near humping up a hill with panch os on. and it's just moving because 80s
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forgotten where. 30 -- let me get this right. 36914 americans died fighting kim's grandfather's regime, the same stahl inist regime that kim jong un was run by his faith granted faert. we fight in regime that the the president is siding with now. it's a betrayal of his first job as president to defend america. >> the timing of this was poor. i think paul's -- paul's mentioned it he did it on memorial day. the number of troops we lost in korea. and i think the timing was bad. i don't think he is siding with -- with a korean dictator. i think he is using the korean dictator as a strawman to go beat up on joe biden. that's all. >> so. >> but he sided with him in the
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past. rick you said it was reprehensible when president trump took kim's side in the otto warmbier. >> the uva student murdered by the regime. >> but here president trump is making fun of people and it's different nan a serious matter about on the of warmbier. >> but maybe it's lost the effect, the nicknames. do you think that's true, paul or if he calls someone slow and low iq does it seep into people's psych ee. >> i think it does. i'd be happy to hear fall says. the fact that we talk about it gives you an idea that it's effective. >> i don't. i think that's the least troublesome thing about our president. and i think it's baked in. there is about a third of the country loves opheim. two thirds doesn't. it's not persuading any of the two thirds to like our president anymore. look you just did a piece on the economy, the economy is booming and the president is 30 points lower than the economy. that never happens. something is going on.
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>> and obviously the economy is crucial here. but i want to just -- i want to ask you about justin amash but first a point to you paul. the trump came tout to joe wide booiden saying it was beneath the dignity of the office. that is rich coming from the joe biden mo bashed the president on german spoil. he was a former vice president leader of the democratic party. here is part of what he said in germany. >> the america i see values basic human decency, not snatching children from their parents, or turning our back on refugees at our border. americans know that's not right. [ applause ] >> the american people understand pleas because it -- it's embarrassing. >> paul and see also wrong. >> it's not equal. >> it's kind of uncool. i'm old school. i don't like attacking overseas. now i have to say it's not so much where you say it though
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that it is what. the truth is our enemies have cnn. any see it if you say it in indiana rather than if you say it munich. it's what you say and when the president sides with the dictator against an american -- now what joe biden said is the view of many americans that our grimes policy is wrong that we should be stronger with our allies in nato that security conference in munich is an important one. i don't think it's equal and opposite. i don't think it's even steven. it's kind of not great. bup not the same as praises a murderous dictator killing an american citizen. >> and making light of it when you i could have called you a idiot. i called you low iq individual. >> let me ask you about justin amash doing a townhall standing up strong whether for what he believes. the only republican in congress in favor of impinge impeachment proegtd against president president trump. he says it's constitutional, principle, morality here is what he said earlier at the townhall. >> clearly things that violate the public trust are impeachable. i'm confident that if you read
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volume two you'll be appalled at much of the conduct. and i was appalled by it. congress has a duty to keep the president in check. >> senator, is there anything that he said that you disagree with? >> no, i -- i don't. i think a lot of the things the president did we're talking about today. a lot of things the president does is appalling. none of it is impeachable in my opinion, none of it is criminal. and -- and i think that's where i would draw the line differently than representative amash. but, look, he has right to go out there and make the case. democrats are going to do it. he may be the only republican to do it. but you can go out and make the case. i think what he does is he has emboldened some democrats to join him which i think in the end is going to be a problem for nancy pelosi. >> thank you both very much. and next the fight for 2020, joe biden. trying to win over one of the most powerful groups in the
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new tonight, the endorsement every dem goes for the powerful teachers union .joe biden rolling out an education plan including increasing teacher pay. he is not alone. kyung lah is outfronted. >> 95 degree heat. 105 real feel i can't be doing in. >> a grueling job in charleston south carolina for zach. but being a pedi cab driver is just his side job. >> how long have you been a teacher. >> next year the tenth year in education. >> compare a good weekend as a bike taxi to the salary a a as at a teacher. >> i will make in two weekends what i make in teach. it's hard you got to wrap your head around where we place value as a society. >> a question about values moving beyond the classroom into presidential politics. >> i'm a union guy, beginning, middle and end.
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>> joe biden hit the trail with teachers today. and he is not the only one seeking in re endorsement. >> kamala harris pitches an average teacher pay raise of $13500 as a pillar of her campaign. >> which will be largest federal investment in teacher salaries in the history of the united states. >> elizabeth warren pledged to name a public school teacher as her education secretary. >> no more betsy devos. i want someone who is committed to public education. i want someone who has seen at that timered textbooks. >> bernie sanders proposes a salary floor of $60,000 for public school teachers and a ban on for profit charter schools. >> as president i will institute that ban and implement that moratorium. >> it's in response to this. >> two years of coast to coast
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teacher strikes, from oklahoma to west virginia. to california, walking off the job, demanding a liveable wage. >> how persuasive is the teacher pay plan when it comes to presidential politics in this state. >> it's my number one voting priority. >> teachers make up a huge voting chunk and when we vote together we can put someone in office. >> politicians have always south support from the teacher unions. but in 2020, the wave of strikes and raw energy on the streets has added fuel to their political power pmt randy wine garratt isn't the cht american frags of teachers representing 1.7 million members. >> are you see egg the reckoning the union vote among the teach zbleers totally. it's not politics as usual. no one just reflectionively votes in a certain way. they may have but not now. >> for middle school teacher needed signs of change.
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but the road ahead. >> do you see your the live continuing this way. >> it's not sustainable, no. it is kind of depressing because you do want a better future and you work just for that. >> the city in particular is interested in kamala harris's teacher pay proposal. harris will be talking about that plan in addition to others geared especially to women and women's rights here in south carolina. she lands tonight beginning a two-day swing through the state. erin, it's her 6th visit to south carolina. erin. >> clearly staking a lot on that. kyung, thank you. and next the hiker lost for more than two equinox are weeks in a hawaiian jungle speaks out. a man who found her is my guest. plus jeanne on the navy pilots coming forward with what any say are daily sitings of ufos. >> it's either testing an array of advanced safety systems.
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got to sleep in and i got to rest appear heal. my ankles are getting stronger. grateful for every breath. >> nick watt is outfront with the story of how she survived. >> reporter: 17 days missing in a maui jungle. no phone, no gps, no splis. >> you have a choice to make. you could sit on the rock and you can die. or you can start walking down that water fall and choose zblief amanda eller's car was found at a trail head on may 8th. abducted in injured? vanished was all we knew. but she knew she was lost. >> you turn your head one way and it looks like the other way and the other way. way way is north. >> hundreds joined the zbleerch necked haved forgotten about me and said another missing person. >> she followed wild boar tracks slept in the same caves they did. >> i'm standing on rocks waisting them down. they're passing me over.
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>> there was a 20-foot drop. a sheer cliff. the plants didn't hold me. boom. >> survived on bearies plants and river water then fine sfwli i had a plant in my mouth i was planning on eating. >> this the moment rescuers reached her sun burned, hurt, 15 pounds lighter but alive. >> i fell to the ground and started bawling. >> her family through a party for all. hurter to cry. >> i'm just the girl that got lost and you showed up hard. this is true aloha process. >> now amanda eller says in near death experience changed her outlook on life, money, possessions with rowe were not important. relationships and people are what matter. and one of the key people in the drama was a guy called javier candidatalope.
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he was amanda eller's dive instructor. he never gave up and i believe you're about to speak to him. >> i certainly am. and it just explained the story, seeing her speak today. let's talk to javier. when she talks about friends, you're obviously a friend to her and have been for years. how is she doing tonight? >> she is doing amazing. as you saw in her press interview, you know, her spirits are way up. she started to start the healing process, which i don't think is going to be that long for her, especially how strong she is and how much knowledge she has with her own body. so she's doing really, really good. she was looking beautiful last time i saw her. >> so i want to show everyone this incredible footage. this is you filming as amanda was helicoptered out, after you found her. so how did you figure out, halfihal javier, where she was. she's talking about she got completely disoriented, she
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couldn't tell the direction, it's been 17 days. how did you figure out where she was? >> i don't know if we figured out where she was. i had a thought of where she was. basically, we had been an extensive search for two and a half weeks in the immediate area. so out of speculation and going down different rabbit holes, i was like, no, the only reason we haven't found her is because she's got to be alive. she's got to be on the move and she's got to be way farther than we think. but she's got 16 days on us, so we really need to investigate the area way past where we think that she may be, and we may need to do like a reconnaissance mission. so we decided to push out on a helicopter and i mean, magic happened. >> okay, magic happened. so what happens the second you see her? the moment you her, 17 days, there's a part of you that thinks, okay, she might not be
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alive. then you see her. >> i mean, erin, it was -- i mean, it's like the most unexplainable feeling. elation. i shook the helicopter with my scream. i screamed over the rotor wash. it was just like the most incredible moment of my entire life. it was absolute magic, incredible elation, the single most incredible moment of my life. no doubt about it. >> and you know, the way these things work is that, look, police and firefighters do everything they can, but there's rules, right? after 72 hours, they suspend the search. that's three days, just to be clear. 17 days went by. amanda knew that was the policy. that's what she said today and she would see some of those choppers flying over in those first few days, she could see them, but they did not see her. so then all of a sudden she realized, they're not going to be flying anymore. so then, how -- how did you hold out hope, after those three days, when all of those resources went away that you could still find her?
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>> oh, no. you know, all props to the fire and rescue, but they are on a set budget, they are on a set timeline, there are other rescues and emergencies happening here. and on that second day when i joined the whole search, you know, my flip had already been switched. so i brought matt, started putting an orchestrated event in place and all the volunteers came in and just took my little paper maps that i had printed up and it turned into a really professional search team and a coordination and really a really big family, you know? it was an incredible thing that really happened, from just passion, you know? >> well, it is an incredible thing. it is an incredible thing. i know we are all so -- you know, hearing you talk about it, i think, lifts many hearts. thank you, javier. >> thank you so much. thank you so much for having me, erin. it's been a pleasure to be on
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your show. >> thank you. next, jeanne and the ufos that were spotted along the east coast. >> my gosh! maria ramirez?
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wow. what was that? those are the words of a navy pilot after he just saw a ufo. here's gjeanne. >> reporter: in the movie "independence day," a fighter pilot gets into a dogfight with a ufo. and the ufo loses. welcome to earth! >> reporter: but real-life fighter pilots now going public with their ufo encounters. >> wherever we were, they were there. >> no distinct wings, no distinct tail, no distinct exhaust. >> reporter: there were a spate of sightings by navy pilots back in 2014 and 2015 along the east coast of the u.s. the government even released a couple of videos. >> my gosh! >> reporter: showing unidentified objects on cockpit censors. >> what is that thing, dude? >> reporter: one pilot managed to lock on to one flying over
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the water. >> got it! >> whoo-hoo! >> wow. >> what the -- is that thing. >> it's flying. >> reporter: now the pilots are talking to the "new york times" and a mini series for the history channel. >> unidentified, inside america's ufo investigation. >> reporter: the pilots are identified. this is f-18 fighter pilot danny la coyne. >> it seems they were aware of our presence, because they would actively move around us. >> reporter: one pilot told "the new york times" of another pilot looking shocked, telling him, i almost hit one of those things, it flew right past the cockpit looking like a sphere encasing a cube. back in 2004 off the west coast of san diego, a fighter pilot captured a white oval-shaped object on his sensors. watch it accelerate and depart screen left at high velocity. they call this one the tic tac
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because of its shape. sure, maybe it's just a result of bugs in the imaging system or atmospheric effects, but if there are aliens, let's hope they don't need tic tacs for their breath. jeanne moos, cnn -- >> what is that thing! >> reporter: -- new york. and thanks for watching. anderson good evening. thanks for joining us tonight. james comey speak out, joe biden is back on the campaign trail, and we look at why he seems to be more wholesale fund-raising than retail politicking. we begin tonight by keeping 'em honest. president trump back from his state visit to japan. whether it was the president's cup trophy presented just for him, the rounds of golf, or the audience with japan's new emperor, the trip was designed to flatter him and showcase u.s./japanese unity. instead, it seems to have showcased divisions inside the west wing over what the