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like never before store. the xfinity store is here. and it's simple, easy, awesome. welcome to "inside politics." i'm dana bash. john king is off today. today a spike in gop concern about a trump trade war, this time it's the president warning he'll impose tariffs on mexico if they don't stop migrants from coming across the border. that as the attorney general is out defending his decisions, his reputation and his president, and democratic senator and presidential candidate michael bennett selling his 2020 message at last night's cnn town hall with a touch of humor. >> i went to work for the city
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and county of denver for a guy named john hickenlooper. i don't know what ever happened to that guy, but he was a terrible boss. >> want to bring in nadia foster, a paralegal who will be attending law school in the fall. >> congratulations. >> thank you, senator bennett. so my question is -- >> the legal profession threw me out. i hope you have a better time. >> it's not for everybody. >> that's what i told my mom. >> we begin with the markets sinking into the red, the friday freakout on wall street is a reaction to president trump and his new tariff threat against mexico. the president this morning tweeted that the new levies are about stopping drug and illegal immigration. quote, mexico must take back their country, the president says, and it's clear today his views on the tariff threat are a way to force the issue. the president wants to slap a 5% tariff on all mexican goods which would sharply increase to 25% over the next few months.
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the potential ripple effects are huge. that 5% hike adds up to a tax increase of more than $17 billion on taxpayers which is why you already hear complaints from the president's fellow republicans on capitol hill this morning. and there's another big worry, the timeline to find a fix is real short. he says it would kick in june 10th. that's less than two weeks to begin solving a problem that this president, his predecessors, congress and mexico have not been able or willing to solve for decades. now if president trump follows through on this, the global economy could suffer the consequences for a separate policy dispute. the white house insists they know the risks and this should not be a surprise. >> not only have we thought this through, but we've been talking about it since the president not just on the campaign but took office. the president has been saying for months if not years that we have to do something to secure
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our border. anybody in this country or frankly in the world that says that they are surprised by this has been living under a rock. >> let's get to somebody not living under a rock. our kaitlan collins at the white house and doing reporting into the wee hours last night and this morning. kaitlan, tell us what you're hearing from your sources about what's going on in the built be behind us? >> we're learning more about why the white house made the decision to roll this out last night. the president tweeted it out even though he gave a hint earlier in the day when he said he eastbound making a big announcement on the border, and we're being told by sources that the white house would make a call on when they would make this decision yesterday morning. the president decided he wanted to move forward with it, and they decided instead of waiting what could be a more prepared and more calculated rollout, they decided to announce it last night pause they didn't want details of this to leak to reporters. now the president and the previous days had been cautioning against making this move from people like the
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treasury secretary steven mnuchin, but then on the other side things there were people like his trade adviser peter navarro who were telling the president this is the move that would get mexico's attention. of course, that rollout has not gone as smoothly as the white house had hoped and they are getting an earful from some republican lawmakers on capitol hill who are urging the president to reconsider this move but so far, us a showed on his twitter feed, he's not shown any signs of backing o. >> that is an understatement, and since they haven't been living under a rock at the white house, i'm sure they expected this backlarks even from members of their own party. thanks for that reporting. wall street is react quickly and harshly to the terror threats. the president's move adds more economic certainty to the markets already unnerved by the prolonged trade fight that's going on with china. let's get straight to the new york stock exchange. alison kosik is there. alison, you understand the pulse of that place so well.
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explain why this is such a big deal to investors and what we've seen so far since the markets opened. >> why this was a big deal because these tariffs would almost immediately raise costs for businesses and consumers and that in turn could wind up slowing down the economy. that is the huge worry hanging over wall street at this point. more immediately because these tear lives go into effect a week from monday. we can feel it at the grocery store, the mangos that we way or avocados but it's the auto industry that would really take a direct hit with this because every american auto factory depends on mexican auto parts to put into its cars and trucks, to build its cars and trucks. deutsche bank says the tariffs could wind up raising inthe u.s. a cost by the tens of billions of dollars, and that's just the auto industry alone, and guess who is going to foot the bill? it's consumers who will foot the bill. deutsche bank says on average if you're looking to buy a vehicle, you'll wind up paying $1,300
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more for that vehicle, why a dig trade group that represents the big detroit automakers, fiat chrysler, gm and ford are coming out with this statement, we're a strong supporter of the united states, mexico and canada agreement but this would impose significant costs on the u.s. auto industry so a lot of concern there. you even see it with investors. ford shares down almost 3% and gm shares down more than 4% so we're seeing the hit in the market. we're seeing a lot of nervousness about the downside risk to the overall u.s. economy if consumer costs go up suddenly and you see the slowdown in business investment. dana. >> version very real will world jitters. thanks so much, alison, for explaining that with me. here to me to share their reporting and insights,
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nia-malika henderson, michael bender with "the wall street journal," npr's tamarah keith and rachel bade with "the washington post." i want to talk about what allison was saying and how why it's not theoretical and how it could affect every single consumer person in america. we have something to put on the screen to give a little more context about autoworkers and auto parts and so forth. u.s. goods imported from mexico, $93 billion vehicles, 5.9 billion vegetables, 5.8 billion fruit and 3.6 billion wine and beer. you know, it's summertime. i think a lot of people like to drink their wine and beer and eat their fruit not to mention to continue to purchase vehicles which are not only needed but also help to -- to rev up the economy which is one of the reasons why this is so big, and
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the question i have, not to be, you know, a doubter here, but mikeal, you cover the white house. how much of this is a trump threat that he likes to beat his chest and warn everybody, and how much of this is something that he might actually follow through on? >> well, i mean, definitely part of it is he wants to get a reaction from mexico and get him to the table. nick mull vein dea briefing with reporters last night and said as much, that this is -- that i think the term he used, he wanted a reaction tonight from mexico. they are going to measure this day by day and week to week, so it is definitely more of a short term looking for reaction than, you know, a long-term game here, and, you know -- you know, when you pull that out to the long term, that raises questions that your graphic just brought up, where the pressure is going to be belt by these tariffs. just a week ago, the president had a roosevelt room ceremony in order to announce $16 billion in direct aid to farmers who are
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struggling due to his trade conflict with china. what your graphic showed is these same folks in important states in the re-election campaign, you know, are going to be targeted and hurt by potentially, you know, by these tear >> i was i'll give you one example. the state of iowa. we're looking at it forth democratic caucuses, but it's also real, really important for the general election. the senior senator who happens to be an important chairman, the finance committee chair, is not very happy, chuck grassley who put out a statement saying trade policy and border security are separate issues. this is a misuse of presidential tariff authority and counter to congressional intent. follow-through on -- following through on this threat would seriously jeopardize passage of usmca, a central campaign pledge of trump's and what could be a big victory for the country. >> yeah, and in that statement he talked about alternatives like remittances, basically taking remittances, the money that people send to mexico.
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a plan that the white house also had a h, folks in the house also had it and it went nowhere. the statement basically i think gets at all the difficulties this president has faced, not only with usmca, which, you know, last week he basically walked away from working with nancy pelosi because of the investigations and now they obviously want some sort of deal on usmca. what we do know this is this buries the president's two favorite issues, tariffs and immigration. those are the two issues that resonated with people in the important battleground states, places like mish mix pennsylvania, but with you don't know. is this something that americans are actually going to feel at some point? will trump supporters actually even care, or will they feel like this is a long game? we can sort of take a hit in the short term with a sort of future of prosperity in terms of these different industries, but it's classic, know, donald trump. >> that's classic go big or go home. >> this is the president trying to send a message.
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this is very much in line with things that he has done before. in fact, mexico year to date is the number one u.s. trading partner overtaking china as the number one u.s. trading partner. china, another country that the president has picked a trade war with, and, you know, people like chuck grassley have probably told president trump that tariffs are a tax on american consumers, that it's not sending money to america. president trump simply does not care. he has very set views on tariffs, and all the economists in the world, including some in his administration, are not going to persuade him of the effects. >> it feels like he is putting one of his central campaign promises over other potential campaign wins. i mean, he clearly wants to crack down on the border, right? he hasn't been able to do it. he's cleaned house at the homeland security department. he's used an emergency declaration to build the wall.
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still seeing the problem and by lashing out at mexico though and threatening the tariffs, he's undermining a great economy that's hum are for people. something he would run on in 2020 and use to his advantage and also uppenneding this trade deal that they have spentp a year negotiating. do they back away now, and what does this mean in the congress? >> or the flip side, like let's just throw this out there. any chance this works and suddenly there's a deal and mexico has done something to change in the next two weeks? >> he has a remarkable ability to create chaos. >> yeah. >> to have an emergency that is of his own making and then the great thing with this for him is that he sets the metric. there is no hard and fast numerical metric that says, oh, this problem is now solved. he can decide it's solved. >> i mean, that's the thing. they declares victory even when it's a clear defeat whether it's north korea, whether it's this
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wall that isn't really being built and certainly isn't going to be paid for by mexico, so i think you're right. he can essentially say -- say he set the terms and he won. >> on this topic of the border crisis we have a cnn exclusive showing the death of what is going on at the reporter. a government watchdog found dangerous overcrowding at an el paso bothered processing facility. cnn's paolo sandoval is in el paso. so just how many people were in this center? >> reporter: up to 900, dana. >> wow. >> reporter: in early may in, a facility that's meant to hold only about 125 people. context is extremely important here. this is just some of the information that we obtained in that report that was published by the office of inspector general obtained exclusively by my colleague priscilla alvarez
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and crease a picture of the conditions that the border agents are up against. a little bit of background on this report again just obtained here. investigators with the office of inspector general visiting seven locations here in the el paso area, two ports of entry and five border patrol-run facilities. one in particular, the el paso del norte processing center, the one when at capacity holds 125 people in, early may it held anywhere from 750 to 900 people, according to investigators, and there were some cells here, dana, that were equipped to handle only about 35 people. those were holding about 155 individuals. very important point to note here. this is basically going with what we continue to hear from high ranking dhs officials what, we've fathered congress and what we've heard here on cnn air when the chief for border patrol spoke to cnn address the situation for ages.
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men and women in uniform tasked with handling this flow and there is corrective action that needs to be taken, according to this report and dhs officials are recognizing the findings in this oig investigation. >> the system is simply not prepared for what is going on down there at every level. it's really important to keep shining the light on it. thanks for bringing us that exclusive, and up next the attorney general is defending his reputation and considering his legacy. >> are you at the end of your career? >> i'm at end. your career. >> it's the reputation you've worked your whole life on. >> everyone dies and i'm not -- i don't believe in the idea that immoral at all comes by having something owned by you over the centuries.
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in reaching our conclusion, but today in a new interview with cbs news barr suggested that the doj did not accept mueller's analysis after all. >> we analyzed the law and the facts and a group of us spent a lot of time doing that and determined that both as a matter of law many of the instances would not amount to obstruction. >> as a matter of law. >> in other words, we didn't agree with the legal analysis, a lot of the legal analysis in the report. it did not reflect views of the department. it was the views of a particular lawyer or lawyers, and so were applied what we thought was the right law. >> cnnp shimon prokupecz joins our conversation. a lot of legalese in what the attorney general just said. put it in layman's terms for us.
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>> it's very rare that we ever get an inside look exactly between the battles between the department of justice, the main justice here in washington, and various attorneys general across the country this. happens where local offices are saying we want to say something and main justice could come in and say you know what. we don't think you have enough here. usually this kind of plays out behind scenes and we are not privy to these kinds of discussions, and before anything like this would ever get public you would think that the offices would kind of work this out and have a good relationship and figure out what can we say publicly about this so that we are aligned, and what we're clearly seeing here is that the special counsel's office and the attorney general are not aligned. they are not on the same page, and that never -- >> on a real important issue, the important issue. >> the biggest -- the most important issue that has probably come before the department of justice in years when you think about when the investigation of a sitting president and the fact that these two offices couldn't agree on this or couldn't work something out. it also tells us, i think, that
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this relationship, they real -- there was no relationship between the special counsel's office and the department of justice. when you think about it, when you see how things are starting to play out now, you have to wonder, well, what were these communications between rod rosenstein overseeing the investigation and the mueller team? it would seem like there wasn't a lot of good communication. they were surprised, the attorney general said that he was surprised by a lot of what mule der and that they asked what do you want redacted? mueller never got backed to them. they were surprised by the fact that mueller never came to a conclusion on the obstruction issue and left it to him so this tells me there was certainly poor communications going back and forth and it could be a trust issue in the end in that the mueller team wanted to keep this independent so they weren't telling the department of justice. >> you mentioned the attorney general stayed they were surprised that robert mule der not reach a conclusion affirmatively on whether or not the president obstructed justice. he talked about that as well this morning. let's listen. >> he could have reached a
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conclusion. the opinion says you cannot indict a president while he's in office, but he could have reached a decision as to whether it was criminal activity. the fact is bob did not make a decision that there was a crime. he didn't get into the analysis at all. part of the reason for that was his judgment about the olc opinion coupled with other things. he just didn't think it was proper exercise of his authority. so totally different issue, and that's why -- that's why both of us feel that this idea that there's been discrepancy over the olc opinion is simply wrong. >> that is what robert mueller said earlier this week with his surprise statement. >> yeah. >> that he didn't even go there and they didn't reach a conclusion because they didn't think he could because he doesn't think that's constitutional to indict a sitting president. >> it's clear that mueller sees himself more as an investigator hand not as a prosecutor and
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certainly not as a messenger which is a different tact that we're seeing from barr here. he has become much more willing to sort of shade the lines now that he has jobs than he was nomination process, and, you know, what we're seeing in this interview, again, is bob barr sort of sweeping view of executive power, expressing it in ways we just haven't heard before, you know, is and he's also made it quite clear that he's reached the point in his career that he didn't really care what people like you and i say or, you know, what the coverage is going -- how the coverage is going to reflect on him. >> i mean, it's a very interesting debate, legal debate going on right now because, i mean, barr lays it out in his interview like it's a simple thing, just charge him or don't, but if mule worry have determined that the president committed a crime and then could not charge him and then that
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became public, i mean, if that's not a constitutional crisis, i mean, what is, and how does the president to be fair to him defend himself when he's also running the country, so, i mean, mueller's argument, yes, seems unprecedented and very new and fresh, but he basically said that there is no circumstance where this would be a good idea. i've got to kick the can. >> and this is flying out, not surprisingly, on the campaign trail on the democratic side. elizabeth warren wants to put an end to a potential gray area. she says i pledge to nominate an office of legal counsel head who will reverse the watergate era rule that a president cannot be indicted for criminal behavior. the ho lc's purpose is to govern the conduct of the executive branchings not act as a get out of free jail card for the president. >> one fascinating thing about the way that this is set up, that congress has a role, that congress would come in and potentially impeach instead of an indictment, instead of a trial, and what elizabeth warren
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in some ways is proposing is taking that out of the hands of congress and putting it in the hands of the executive branch. >> yeah. which is quite interesting. okay. everybody stand by. up next, we'll talk a little bit about the impeachment talk on the campaign trail. senator michael ben set going against the 2020 democratic grain making his case against booking an impeachment right yet and how he made a rare admission in a town hall last night saying he regrets a rule change that allowed judges to be confirmed with a simple majority. >> you call your vote to support that your biggest regret in your ten years in the senate. you say you did it because you were a member of the democratic leadership. what have you learned from this regret? >> well, what i've learned from this regret, is first of all, it's important to be on est when you make a mistake.
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i'll pass. thanks to robert mueller's surprise statement the number of democrats calling for impeaching proceedings has jumped to ten but one democratic candidate, senator michael bennett of colorado, told me during a cnn town ham last night he's not jumping on the impeachment train arguing it would only help donald trump. >> it is very important that we take a page out of history and do what they did with watergate which was to make sure the
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american people understood really what was at stake. if we go down the road tomorrow and impeachment president trump, we're actually giving him a favor. that's what he wants, to be able to say he was railroaded. >> the colorado senator is trying to appeal to voters by being what he calls a pragmatic idealist and took a swipe at his competitors trying to one up another about impeachment on social media. >> the president, in my view, i think he committed impeachable offenses, but we have to go through the process. to me it's one of the problems with our politics today is we want to go out and tweet and immediately react, race to judgment, and we need to be more strategic than that. we need to be smarter than that. >> nia is back with us. do democratic primacy caucus voters want strategic, or do they want to hear what they want to hear from their candidates meaning go get the guy?
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>> i mean, it's funny. you go out and you go to these campaign events, whether it's biden, bernie sanders. i was just with him on tuesday. this isn't really what they are talking b.maybe one question will come up about impeachment, but they are talking about healthcare. they are talking about income inequality and climate change, and they want to hear about that from these candidates. i think do you have a situation where elizabeth warren really sort of set the pace in terms of how you frame the debate with impeachment, and you've had other people try to modify that in some ways. he seemed to say -- he essentially sounded like nancy pelosi. at one point i think he said we should investigate but let's call them the russia proceedings, not impeachment, so, yeah -- >> very much in the please camp. >> very much in the pelosi camp and some democrats are. >> as we talk about him because there are so many candidates and he is a relatively new face on the national scene, we'll put up on the screen about michael
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bennett, he's 54 from colorado. he announced earlier this month. he is a moderate, for lots of reasons, but most poshl that's where he stands but where he represents the state of colorado. you mentioned healthcare. that is another area where he's separated himself from the much more progressive candidates who are support for the medicare for all health care plan which would eliminate private insurance. listen to what he had said about his healthcare plan. >> i don't know if you remember when we were passion the whole affordable care act, if you like your insurance, you can keep it, remember that and a few people lost their insurance and all hell broke loose and bernie is proposing if you like your insurance, we're going to take it away from you. i think bernie is wrong to propose it. i think what we should do is give the american people a choice. >> i think it's really
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fascinating because, number one, even more democrats who don't fully support medicare for all, you don't see them go out in such a way and say this is wrong. bernie sanders is wrong because the ideas are so popular in the democratic party. at the same time, you know, a few minutes later he said basically my plan is, quote, medicare for all if you want it, and so i think he realizes that even though he's not supporting it and is criticizing bernie sanders he's saying, you know, his healthcare plan would let you buy into medicare for all but also let you keep private insurance hand that shows how far left the democratic field has shifted because he's one. moderate candidates. >> that's a very similar position that pete buttigieg has t.medicare for all who want it. there are -- even when democrats are saying that they don't support medicare for all, they are branding it with the language of medicare for all. in some ways bent's position is very similar to what hillary clinton was arguing in 2016 as it relates to healthcare, like let people buy into medicare if
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they want to, you know. there are still some democrats running on the hillary clinton platform. they are not all running on the hillary clinton platform. >> that's the question, whether or not there's room for a michael bennett, you know, the progressives are wrong in this -- in this era, in this 2020 climate. >> yeah. i don't know where michael bennett fits in this sort of spectrum democratic candidates. your interview last night with him brought out -- he's very engaging. he's fun to talk to. he's very personable, but, you know, you look at the field. you have the old candidates. you have the young candidates. you have female candidates, minority candidates, and what we're missing here is i'm not sure who hats enthusiasm coalition. >> yeah. >> the primary vote, wherever they are, if they are very liberal or mod rat, you know, we haven't seen where they are -- where any of these candidates are particularly energetic about it and that's how democrats have
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topping our political radar today, proof that politics can still make for strange bedfellows, even in these hyperpartisan times. democratic congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez and republican senator ted cruz agreed on twitter to work together to ban former lawmakers from taking paid lobbying positions. democratic senator and presidential candidate michael bennett is on board as well saying on twitter, wait a minute. this was my idea, but i'm for it. and senator elizabeth warren was on iheart radio's the breakfast club show this morning, a program that has hosted several other 2020 candidates. at one point one. co-hosts asked the democratic presidential candidate about her past claims of native american ancestry. here's part of the exchange. >> when did you find out you weren't? >> well, you know, it's -- i'm not a person of color.
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i'm not a citizen of a tribe. >> were there any benefits to that? >> no. "boston globe" did a full investigation. >> kind of like the original rachel dolezal, a little bit. a white woman pretending to be black. >> this is what i learned from my family. >> okay. we're back around the table. nia, we were talking about this during the break. >> i thought the rachel dolezal comparison was a real lo blow. this is a woman who painted her skin, darkened her skin and got a perm and passed ford black and was completely white and elizabeth warren, you know, i sort of put it in the context of elizabeth warren, from oklahoma, a southern state. a lot of people claim native ancestry, are bill clinton did, johnny depp did as well, billy ray coronavirus. that's what the family lore. is that does remind us of an issue that had been dogging elizabeth warren. the president obviously has
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given her that nickname, but this is the answer she's land on. this is what she learned growing up. she grew up in oklahoma. >> and she tried to get ahead of this with the dna test, which, of course, really made native americans mad becaus that's not the way you determine native american an setry. i spoke to native americans about this as well. they are also annoyed with the fact that she keeps saying she's not had a person of color because that also has nothing to do with native american ancestry or tribal affiliation. it's all about whether or not you're part of a tribe or a nation. >> this is just -- this is the answer show's landed on. >> yeah. >> the question is whether it's good enough. >> in the sort of internal struggle, conflict with the democratic base about who they think they can win and are excited about. i don't think anyone sort of represents that better than warren, and why aren't people more excited about warren in the answer seems to be this -- this issue. so until she can find an answer that satisfies the -- the base on this. i mean, whether it's good or not, she's asked a couple of
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direct questions in this interview and frankly didn't answer them and now, you know, now it has the risk of becoming, you know, the -- the iraq question for jeb bush or the email question for hillary clinton, and, you know, i think it's good for her keep getting these questions and try to find an answer that will put this to rest for her. >> another little jump back in the inside politics way back ma she be because it has been two years. i'm not sure anyone has answered this question. what does covfefe. who can figure out the true meaning of covfefe. have at it, folks. we'll be right back. oh! oh!
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43 democratic members of congress are now calling for at least an impeachment inquiry to begin. let's get straight to capitol hill. cnn's phil mattingly is joining me now. so as the week is ending, and that number has spiked a bit, what are you hearing from your sources and democratic leadership about whether or not the pressure is still mounting and whether or not nancy pelosi can hold back? >> yeah. so i'll take the latter part of that first and that is that the speaker is going to continue to hold back. she's made that clear of the.
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one of the most important parts about the speaker and her position on impeachment is transparent about it. she says the key things she looks sat whether or not to pursue anik -- pursue an inquiry. if you look at 493 members, the vast majority of them do not come from the so-called majority-maker group, the group in 2018 that flipped seats that were held by republicans in 2018 and are the reasons speaker nancy pelosi is speaker nancy please and she point again last night in an interview with jimmy kimmel to the republican-lead senate. they need at least 20 republicans to come over and join all democrats to convict the democrats if the house is able to impeach them and there are current zero senate republicans who back doing that and points to the idea that the investigations are ongoing and there is a path. take a listen to how she said t. >> as we go down this path, the american people will know the truth and the president will be
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held accountable, but you have to go down that path when you're as ready as you can possibly be, and you don't know that until you go down the sglath will we be ready before the year 2020? >> yeah, we will. >> so the timeline is actually interesting. they are acknowledging that they would be able to do something with finality before 2020. that gives them seven months to work with right now. pelosi has maintained her position and house judiciary committee chairman jerry nadler has lined up behind her on this. that there are ongoing investigations and despite what some of the more vocal members have said about impeachment, at this point in time they are staying the course. >> phil, thank you so much for that report. let's look at what's happened visually over the past week. so 43 members of the democratic caucus, as i mentioned, are now calling for impeachment. 35 were already in that camp before robert mueller spoke this week. three more jumped in after
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mueller spoke. five after trump spoke reacting to robert mueller yesterday. and what is also interesting is, and rachel, you've done some reporting on this and phil was talking about this as well. 52 congresspeople come from red districts, districts that trump won in 2016, and that is no small thing. we've been talking so much about the impact of this on 2020, on the presidential race, but it also is very important as it relates to whether democrats can keep the house. >> that's exactly right. it's not a point that pelosi talks about a lot. she would prefer to talk about republicans and how they are not going to, you know, take him out in the senate, but this is a huge concern of hers, and, you know, my colleague and i went out to some of these trump districts held by democrats this week and it's incredible to see a totally different political reality where nobody is talking about mueller. nobody is talking about impeachment, and, you know, my colleague was with sherry bustos who heads the democratic campaign arm at the exact time that mueller was up at the mic
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and talking to the television sets. he was with her all day and nobody asked about it, not a single person and the night before i was with a democrat in virginia, elaine luria would flipped a democratic seat to a democrat seat that went for trump and i was at a town hall and nobody brought it up and all but one said they shouldn't touch it, that it will distract from issues they care about. they are not there and pelosi is very cognizant that have. >> maybe we should call them the silent majority-makers because that's what they are and as we go to break matt cartwright, one of them of pennsylvania, told cnn on new year's day th"new da word that he uses is infrastructure. thanks so much for joining us on
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