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slashings and stabbings at rikers. or experiencing seizures with little help from the guards. still, a top new york corrections official tells cnn, there's been a reduction of incidence at the jail in the past two years. manafort would hardly be the first high-profile inmate at reich eik rike rikers. a list of names that the high-flying manafort ever expected to join. randi kaye, cnn, new york. the news continues. we'll hand it to chris for "cuomo criprimetime." >> i am chris cuomo. welcome to "primetime." a new battle to make tougher gun laws a reality. this time in virginia. 12 were murdered friday. and already, lawmakers have taken sides. they haven't even started the discussion yet. senator cory booker wants to be your leader. and he says he knows what to do
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about gun violence. what are his ideas and how can he get something done? and are tariffs on mexico one reckless move too many for gopers. it was called a cluster beep. and a lot of noise in the house. will the party go against potus. clay higgins is back on "primetime." he has a take from inside the game. speaker pelosi has her own fires to put out on impeachment. the more potus blocks congress, like his move to keep the house alumni silent, the more her members say it is time to drop the hammer. and a special closing argument. "cuomo primetime" celebrating its first year. what do you say? let's get after it. our president is lying and tweeting. it seems a number of gops are
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tired of it. one aide described the meeting between white house officials and senators, pretty direct. >> there's not much support in my conference for tariffs, for sure. >> will you try to block this? >> we're hoping that doesn't happen. >> in london, the president tried to keep calm and, you got it, carry on. >> what do you think of republicans who say they may take action to block you imposing the tariffs? >> they won't do that. there's nothing more important than borders. i've had tremendous republican support. >> except attacking bette midler in the middle of the night in his latest tweet. conservatives like ted cruise are worried. there's talk of a disapproval resolution from republicans. the president may have hit his own wall as he tries to put the
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squeeze on mexico. clay higgins sits on the homeland security committee. good to have you back on "primetime." >> good to be with you, sir. tariffs on mexico, as a way of getting better results. >> and perhaps to get a usmca passed. the border security is primary importance. it's what the president is focused on. nobody wants tariffs. as we move forward, the next 30, 60 days, we'll see results. and perhaps some of my colleagues that are on the fence about ucmca and border security will move towards the side of protecting many esh protecting america. >> we haven't seen results that tariffs would be good. we have to back fill with the farmers. and here, the concern is that it
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may derail the trade agreement with many exkexico. where is the upside? >> there's poker going on. i have confidence that at the highest levels, including the secretary of state, we'll see movement of a new and improved nafta, usmca. and i believe that border security will be improved in some way of a bipartisan manner. not as conservatives like myself would want. but not with open borders and lax security as some of my colleagues across the aisle call for. >> anyone who asks for open borders in america will be a loser. it's about how to do it. something that has been perpl perplexing us on this show, help me with this. the right and the left. pass an emergency bill. push the president. get dhs the accommodations they need. your committee are begging for help to house and treat these kids. the republicans say, the
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democrats won't let us do it. and the democrats say, they're asking for so much. they don't want to help the kids. why no emergency measure? >> there's a lot of posturing going on in this town. it's unfortunate. and the american citizenry suffers. the actual physical security of our border is reflective of our commitment to maintain the sovereignty of our nation. and the security is layered. there's no one single answer. this is why we need 21st century technology to detect an illegal crossing. 21st century enhanced physical barriers to delay or deter that physical crossing. and enhanced capacity to respond and to processing the children of god that do cross over, who have a certain amount of rights and they should be given right to due process, regarding the criminal act they're accused of. and taking care of the kids and the family units coming over, my
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they've been begging for months for two years. please give us what we need. it shouldn't be a partisan issue. >> i had people on the left say to me, in congress and otherwise, hey, we got to look at cbp and dhs, and see why the kids are dying. if they come out, i'll change my posture. this is not about how cbp or dhs is trying to treat people. this is about begging for help with resources and not getting it. how many have to die before people in congress will come together? what do you think the number is? six, seven now? 20? >> one would hold none. >> you had seven and nothing's happening. i wouldn't say nothing is happening. no results have been seen out of the gridlocked congress. we have an incredible amount of obstructionism here. you know this to be true.
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i have friends across the aisle. one-on-one, we can agree on a path forward, to properly and in a humanitarian way care for the children of god that are crossing our borders. at the same time, secure our borders and top stop the loopholes. as a party, we find ourselves. i like you. we have variances. both parties are overpostured for 2020, as opposed to seeking results for the american citizens we serve. >> clay, the only party for me is after the show. let me get your take on this as former law enforcement. parkland happens. the school resource officer is outside. he has charged multiple counts in connection of not going in and doing something. they're various county counts.
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his defense is, you think charging the officer is the right move? >> i've never seen charges like this. since columbine, the whole training ended. officers would stand by and wait for s.w.a.t. to enter. if you're not sure where the shots are coming from, this is a momentary decision. if you're guarding a school, and the children and the staff are inside, that's where you go. you've already called for your backup. you know there's other units en route. everybody is coming. they're coming from the outside. if you're the guy on point, you go inside. to wait two or three seconds is two or three seconds longer than i would have waited, if i was standing there. >> thank you for your perspective on the law enforcement issue and what's
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extended its record of blocking congressional requests, by barring hope hicks and andy donaldson by giving full cooperation to congress. house democrats are lining up more contempt charges that fail to produce anything. what is the attempt of this protracted inactio. let's test the situation, shall we? the denials are goading democrats. each day, manufacture get on the dump trump train. 59 at last count. looks very impressive. until you step back and realize, what lice that is. now, some say those 59 say this isn't just an end. they want to lay out the case for you, so you can signal your enthusiasm. this is the nixon nexus. they were hoping this would be
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like watergate. those hearings that led to a huge spike of public support to impeaching nixon. here's my problem with that. it's not apples to apples. there's no mueller probe that had bathed the nation at that time in information for many, many months. there was no twitter. there was no trump or the trump tr trio on fox, helping to sell his message. that wasn't happening in the 0 '7s. and most people didn't follow watergate until the hearings started. you've been hearing about trump and russia for years now. now, 41% is getting a lot of notice. does it speak to the general divide in this nation? look at president obama. he was at 33% at this point in his presidency in 2014.
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they weren't thinking of impeaching him. look at how many people wanted that. it's a negative indexing of how people feel. this is an anti-factor. these 23 people, all of them wanting to run against this president. all of them wanting to make a case to those motivated to remove him. >> began impeachment proceedings now against this president. >> this president must be held accountable. >> you guys love strength. harshness is strength. while most voters nationally do not want to impeach, the vast majority of democratic primary voters do believe the president should be removed from office. remember that phrase. that's a high bar, removal. what happens if you impeach but don't remove? that brings us back to where we started. this president. this idea that he's goading congress and putting them where
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he wants, i don't know. he should know a thing or two about supporting impeachment. he was tweeting about impeaching the president. are you allowed to tweet the president for gross incompetence. irony aside, because the power is to shift opinions here. this president will have a huge role. forget about the documents that hope hicks would have. that's not a smoking gun. the biggest factor will be him. the more this president acts with blatant disaddreregard for institutional checks and balances, the more he becomes the kind of person many of you want to see impeached. will speaker pelosi's hesitation right now pay off for backfire? we have new faces for the great debate. ooh, they're good looking. we'll see how their brains work. next. k.
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embrace the mischief. say "get pets tickets" into your x1 voice remote to see it in theaters. first, it was don ma gacgah and now, it's hope hicks and andy donaldson, who are avoiding democrat subpoenas because the white house is telling them to. do they really think that if impeachment happens, it's a good thing for them. we have jenk uighur and patrick griffin. on our one-year anniversary, you're a gift to me. patrick, i start with you. make the case. why is this okay, the latest
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pushback by the white house? >> i think more than anything else, whether or not any of this is covered under executive privile privilege, that will be decided later. but the politics of this is interesting. the president is going to travel this country and point to washington. he's the incumbent president. this is hard to imagine. and he's going to run as an outsider. the great disrupter in chief. and he's going to tell them that the democrats in washington can do nothing but chase me down rabbit holes and try to delegitimize his presidency. that is not a sustainable narrative for democrats. but it works well for him in places like michigan, wisconsin and pennsylvania. rust belt states that he won electorally because democrats didn't make the case. >> jake says no way. >> he's a deeply unpopular president. he's never gotten over 50%. all other presidents have been way past this number for a long
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time. he's never gotten past 50. he's at 43 and celebrating. he's not going to do well in michigan or anywhere. what is he going to say he did? tax cuts for the rich and big business? woo. do you want us to impeach donald trump? >> i think nancy pelosi, if she wasn't as smart as she is, should be goaded to let her caucus lead her down the road of impeachment. donald trump would love that. >> do you love it? do you think donald trump should be impeached? >> do you think the president will do well with that, if you sell it to the mainstream of america? >> i am going to sell it. >> you're going to try to do it. >> you, patrick -- do you want donald trump impeached?
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>> i think the democrats should try to make the entire campaign about impeaching donald trump and will fail as miserably as they did with hillary clinton. one of the things that is fascinating with this, is nancy pelosi and donald trump, we can disagree with them. i disagree with both on a lot of things. but nancy pelosi and donald trump are playing three-dimensional chess while everybody else is playing checkers. that's why the speaker hasn't moved to impeach and she probably won't. >> donald trump has never been one step ahead in his life. i haven't. >> you have been saying this for a long time. >> one at a time. go ahead, cenk. what's your count center. >> donald trump is grossly incompetent. you know how many bankruptcies he has? not four or five. six bankruptcies. he's never thought one step ahead in his life. total loser, through and through. if you say nancy pelosi is not much of a strategist, either, i
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would agree. but you think she's great. nancy pelosi, republicans think you're great. that should be a note to you. on the issue of impeachment, it's a matter of principle. if you let donald trump get away with two, clear felonies, obstruction of justice and campaign finance violations, then nancy pelosi would prove someone else right. >> i got one for each of you. >> that's what you think it is. at the end of the day, if the democrats don't go down that road of accountability, let's call it. it's about accountability. you believe they lose their own party. the party will say, we didn't put you there for it. >> as a matter of principle. if you have a president who says he's above the law, and he's broken two laws you must act.
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if you don't act, you're abdicating your responsibility. and it's a violation of your oath to the constitution. can you imagine a prosecutor saying, the guy has broken the law. but for my political career, i'm not going to prosecute him. >> mueller had a core chured explanation of why he couldn't come to a conclusion. >> i'm not sure i agree with his interpretation. he said he cannot indict a sitting president. he said, i'm telling you he's not innocent, which congress must act. he talks about the correct body to act in this case is congress. the reason he did that press conference and he probably can't believe the democrats are not impeaching. i gave you ten separate instances of obstruction of justice. he's going to get his chance. this is something in how it matches to the actions.
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i'm with you. if this is the best they got, i'm in good shape. somehow someone found a way to make donald trump a victim. but by obstructing the process, the president is undercutting his own argument. he has nothing to hide. he's just a victim, why doesn't he comply with the process? >> you just asked a logical question. i was trying -- you had a chance to talk. give me a chance to talk. the bottom line here is, this is unexplicable. we can't have a clear understanding why donald trump behaves the way he does. >> what? >> the mueller report fell with a thud. >> patrick, help me understand your point for the audience. you're new. what do you mean it's inexplicable that we can't understand why the president does what he does? is he one of the fates? >> maybe i didn't make myself clear. the fact that donald trump became president is inexplicable
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to a lot of democrats. most of them accept the fact he beat hillary clinton. second of all, donald trump's behavior, in spite of himself, he continues to be president and continues to deny every odd. donald trump has 41%, 42% of this country, as he said, will be with him always. the other thing that's fascinating, is it came his way in an election. you don't hold the base. trump's base is riled up enough. independent voters are not going to put up with this foolishness from the democrats who have nothing to do but chase donald trump around a swamp of washington and try to impeach him. >> let's show how the polls show the sorry. he lost the popular vote the last time. it will be specific places and faces. see how it goes. >> the rust belt, chris, i think. >> patrick griffin, i liked having you on. cenk uygur, thanks for being on
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our anniversary. cory booker, before this happened on friday that he just lived through. he said, that he has a stance on gun violence. would it have made a difference on friday? and does that matter? and how do you get people do to a damn thing about it? there's the senator. his proposed solutions, next.
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the virginia governor is calling for a special session to take up gun control after 12 people were murdered there on friday in virginia beach. we tried to get the governor on the show. tried to get the republican opposite of his, who immediately out of the box, said we're going to talk about it. why are we like this when it comes to this issue? opposite sides, only in america. why? the shooting prompted cory
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booker to go all-in to fight gun violence. he's here to make the case for you and a primetime exclusive. senator booker, you're here to make the case to the american people. thank you for taking the opportunity. >> it's good to be on for your year anniversary. congratulations. >> thank you. the team deserves it. >> let's talk about this to face the problems you will face. the first will be what we hear every time. we looked on the website. wouldn't have stopped friday. wouldn't have stopped friday. why do anything? >> you said yourself, that's a trap. every day in america, 100 people are days from gun violence. more people in my or your lifetime, in a short 50 or so years, in all of the wars in the united states from the revolutionary war to now combined. this is a uniquely american problem. the carnage we have is unacceptable. and to use one shooting to
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unravel an entire plan we know from the evidence, connecticut did, for example, gun licensing. and they dropped gun violence over 40%, suicides down 15%. we know there's things we can do to dramatically cut gun violence. but yet, we do nothing. the next layer. this man would buy them. he didn't check any of the boxes. an extender and magazine on his handgun. >> there's a trap again. this is going to unfold in the investigation. there's a trap about using one incident to untravel an entire comprehensive plan.
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i live in a community, where too many parents report, that hearing a firecracker makes your kid evidence post-traumatic stress. to them, it sounds too familiar, like the sound of gunfire. >> i remember when my father said to you many years ago, where you grew up, where he grew up, they hear and are comfortable with the sound of gunfire before they hear an opera or orchestra. and you get to the big challenge, senator, which some say you're uniquely suited to. look at virginia. virginia beach happens. as soon as the governor mentions it, his politial opposite says, i'm talking about it but i'm talking about minimum sentences. >> this is where america should be up for this fight. the overwhelming majority agree, that if someone is convicted of
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stalking their girlfriend, they shouldn't buy a weapon. if someone is on a terrorist no-fly list, they shouldn't be able to go and buy a weapon. there's so much wide berth of which nongun owners agree. the problem is the corporate gun lobby has too much of a handle on politicians that are trying to block common sense. it's a time in america when people died, we changed laws. when four girls died in a church in birmingham, we changed laws. when women were throwing themselves out windows at the factory fire, we changed laws and conditions. people have slaughters in a concert in las vegas. we do nothing. people are slaughtered in orlando, we do nothing. children shot, child-by-child,
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and we do nothing. >> how open are you to the issues in this effect. especially the mass shoots that draw the attention? they're a small percentage of overall gun crime. and you deal with that in your proposal. you have a mental health component, without demonizing the mentally ill. you have a culture of violence, how people end their own lives by ending the lives of others. do those have room in your debate, as well? >> absolutely. we need to be a nation that talks about suicides. 2-1, suicides to nonsuicides. and there's evidence that can stop that. we need to stop domestic violence. we're not having a conversation about that. this is something we're not impotent to do something about it. my proposals have been shown to reduce crime.
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looking at this and things that find opportunity, we can make a difference. the gun lobby is so perverted, they shifted it so far, that most americans aren't a i ware they've exempted themselves from negligence suits, if your iphone blows up and scratches your corn cornea, not a gun, it happens. they've exempting themselves from having law enforcement. the one agency that's been kept starved is the atf. i remember as a mayor, going down to talk with leaders of the atf. they told me candidly that congress, through their appropriati appropriations, has kept them starved of the resources they need to investigate the laws we have right now. >> i would say, i love your heart and your head. but this is a tough one. nothing seems to make a difference.
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now, there's something new that keeps me from that cynicism. 16-18, you had more than you did baby boomers. they put this issue high as they do with the environment. do you think there's a chance that young voters may vote on this issue in a way to force politicians to act out of fear of consequence. >> the young voters in this country are blowing me away as i run around the country in campaign. i'm so impressed with them. we need bold leadership from every corner to start to elevate this issue. governments are formed for the defense. common defense. and we are seeing at our nation, carnage that some countries at war are not seeing. i got hope from a woman in the projects whose son was murdered
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in the lobby of a building i would move into. and she taught me that despair will never have the last word. i'm sorry. our history is full of overcoming filibusters in the senate, when they stop human rights legislation. it was creative activists who raised the consciousness of this country and changed the debate of what was possible. this has got to be one of those moments. there's too much carnage on too many neighborhoods. now and your father remembers. the drills they used to have for nuclear attacks under your desk. now, our children are going to skills and having drills for active shooters. our children should not live in a country where such fear is being instilled by the constant inaction of legislators. it's time we take this debate and not let the corporate gun lobby form it. we take the debate. make the argument and make the change. we have the power. it's time to use it. >> those who vote most will win on this issue, if they vote on
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this issue. as you noticed, senator, only policy tonight. i'm not talking about people in the race. i didn't ask about the president of the united states. we're going to use this show as we can as a forum for policy matters that matter in the moment. you will be on the list of people who we call and you take it as you see fit. >> i appreciate that i don't have to get up in the morning. you're working my hours. you're real ly these discussion, we need more. >> i guarantee you, we will do it uniquely on this show. i don't look better at night. >> if you shaved your head, you wouldn't have to worry about that product and prep. >> i paid a lot of money for this. take care, senator. good luck. >> thank you, brother. authorities are still seeking justice for the 17 people killed in the parkland, florida, shooting tonight. that's interesting. that debate, we can't get anywhere.
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but listen to this development. you remember the school resource officer that was held in low regard because he didn't go into the school? he's been charged. he's going on trial. he will be prosecuted. he could be in prison for life. right move? does it make you feel better about the situation and the future? it's complicated? bring in d. lemon next. (photographers) candace! charlie! i'm so hungry. (photographers) look here! candace, starkist creations come in over 20 flavors-- right: chicken, salmon, or tuna like my favorite! just tear, eat... mmm-- and go!
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listen. i'm not an answers person. you tell me what you think about this. parkland, florida, the former deputy sheriff, infamous for waiting outside. his defense was, i thought the shots were coming from outside. doesn't do the best under scrutiny of fact, that argument. his name is scott peterson. he is facing a lot of charges. his actions or inaction during the shooting, we remember, 17 are dead. not that he's why they are dead specifically. we know that only gets attributed to the gunman. but let's bring in d. lemon. the arrest warrant notes some 75 shots went off after he arrived at the scene. key part to the analysis. not talking about you. not talking about me. we're talking about somebody who
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is a first responder who is there to do the job but protecting the kids. what do you think of the move? >> listen, the evidence shows he let the kids down, right? but he was outgunned. this makes me sad. i listened to you and cory booker talk about this issue of guns. it makes me sad. there's no winners in this situation. you have the people who lost their lives as a result of the shooter. and then, you have the school resource officer, who is supposed to protect the kids and did not. the only way i can see this is there's no winning with any of tight. it. the legal protecess played out. >> it messes with my head. what are we saying? our first responders are extraordinary men and women. >> they also have fear -- >> they have fear and have everything. but they overcome it all the time. prosecuting would reinforce the
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policy. they're amazingly heroic almost all the time. he was not, arguably. but what really gets me, is this what we decide to act on. >> right. >> this is the move that makes the most sense, after a shooting. this is the best we can do. like i say, it's often misunderstood, but it's true. only in america do you respond to something like this way. >> it's tough to talk about these stories, chris. you weren't here at the time. i'm sure you covered it with abc at the time. if there's one story that changed my life and changed me as a person, that's newtown. i remember being there. i remember the last day i was there. i was thinking, i may get to get out of here today. but i thought about all of the people who didn't. all of the people who go on and continue without their children and their family members. one of the last live shots i was doing, i was responding there, and a hearse came by. i don't know if i told you this story before. you can see a mom in the back
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with her head on the window. the dad on the back. his head on one side of the window. and this little tiny, white coffin in the back. and i just broke down in tears. i said, i got to get out of i wasn't even connected to the story in the personal way in the sense i i had someone i knew there. and that changed me. and i had to talk to somebody about what i'd witnessed, what i'd seen. and i can only imagine what those people and folks go through. and i can only imagine the fear from the students, from the teachers and even from the people who are supposed to be heroic. even though you take a job as a resource officer in a school you never think it's actually going to happen in the way it does happen. >> but that's your job. he didn't do it, and we'll let the system go. i just wish the system would embrace the urgency on all
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fronts. >> we've got a couple of stories we're going to talk about that are off the radar. we're going to talk about these white supremacist hearings in washington and then there are a number of transgender woman in dallas who have been killed and/or missing and that story is not getting any attention. we're going to bring the spotlight to it. >> good for you. let's take a break. one year anniversary. i have something to say about it next. carl, i appreciate the invite here. as my broker, what am i paying you to manage my money? it's racquetball time. (thumps) ugh! carl, does your firm offer a satisfaction guarantee? like schwab does. guarantee? (splash) carl, can you remind me what you've invested my money in? it's complicated. are you asking enough questions about the way your wealth is being managed? if not, talk to schwab.
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generous in reaching out to the show, how to make it better, what you want more of. we listen, we think, we grind and we get better. we get after it, right? and you have seen it. we have lived it together when the man who helped get the president a pass in the mueller probe got no pass here. >> i never said there was no collusion between the campaign or between people in the campaign. >> yes, you have. >> i have not. i said the president of the united states. >> we test. we do it to your face. we have one of the michael cohen tapes, the secret recording of president trump back in 2016 made by cohen in which he and then candidate trump discuss arrangements surrounding a an arrangement to karen mcdougal. it was big. we checked the president with not only opinion, but proof. take a look at this. this is the letter of intent for the proposed trump moscow.
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but it's not all political pugilism. we have witnessed history around this important, and dennis rodman, too. >> things are going to change. i took those bullets. i took all of that. everything everyone came at me and i'm still standing. today is a great day for everybody. singapore, tokyo, china, everybody. it's a great day. >> it is a great day. this is a historic day. >> i'm so happy. >> he was right. i mean, i still can't get over it. but he was right. and, yes, it's not always silly. very often, it's so deadly serious. the problems that we have still yet to face. >> happy in your community. how bizarre is that? >> yeah. >> imagine if this is the best you could do for your kids. look what they're playing in the
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middle of. it's worse there now than it was back then. every time we've gone, it's gotten worse. every time we report on it, it's gotten worse and we have still done nothing. but we will not leave it alone. and that's the beauty of the opportunity you've given us. this show has done more and better in this first year by residents, relevance, ratings, than i imagine possible. and it would be absurd for me to look you in the eye and take credit. here's the truth. the truest thing i ever said on the show. this show is led by a young woman named melanie. a fierce fighter, focused. she is in my phone as partner, because that's what she is as my ep and she's got the scars to prove it. she leads the team and tames the dragon. our seniors, vaughan, melissa, smart, hungry, helpful people. the arguments, the facts, the angles. they are the ones who fuel the
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fire. melissa heads up bonnie and ben and dylan. they have the toughest job. they convince people to deal with your boy. they put the asss in the seats, whether you like it or not. because this show is not set up to pander to partisans. it's for the open and the curious. chris, patrick, charlie, put the facts in my head, make the testing as good as it can be on this show. ethan, susan, lauren, michael, tyler, mckenzie, kisha, brendan. the video and the graphics and the accuracy of what we say, the very words i mangle, the smooth operation of the whole team. they keep it correct and consistent and creative. and director ellie, the whole crew, makeup to camera to floor, the ride home, there is no me without each and all of you. and, of course, my producer, rosalie. the rose of instagram fame. there she is. she exists. i told you.
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she has been with me all over the country and the world. she is a constant reminder of matters in the story and life. she is invaluable, as they are. no one outworks this crew. no one cares more than we do about what we do for you. we start in the morning early. we end at night, late. these people have families, loved ones and they sacrifice because they believe. please allow me to thank them. and my cristina, bella, marimo and carlina. thank you for letting me do what i think matters, and thank you for helping me know what that is always and in all ways. mom, andrew, margaret, maria, madeleine, you made me. you paid the price for if. thank you for the love and the guidance as my family. i thank god for the blessings as my family. i wear a uniform every night. i repeat the same slogan every night because this a constant commitment

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