we have a couple of stories breaking on our watch. big time democrats are struggling with big questions. you have 2020 front runner joe biden. he seems to have another answer for his position on the hyde amendment. we'll take you through it. and the democratic leaders in congress can't figure out how to best do their duty of oversite. we'll tang take you inside nadlers private push to nancy pelosi. why does he fear going public? and we have one of pelosi's closest allies here tonight. a democratic titan herself. two big questions for her. must the democrats impeach to show voters they're doing their job? and why aren't they helping those kids on the border. tariffs big news but not a big impact. they're not going to fix what's going on. someone will try to argue otherwise. fasten your seat belts. let's get after it. >> speaker pelosi wants the president imprisoned and not impeached.

we can now take you inside that meeting and cnn learned that's house judiciary chair nadler pushed hard for an impeachment inquiry. that's not a proceeding. not where they're planning to bring charges. it's a very robust discovery phase. now he argues it would centralize the multiple investigations. just one big effort. free up others to do work on other issues that matter to the rest of you. but a source also says he's being careful about what he says publicly because he doesn't want to throw the speaker under the bus. smart man. let's bring in someone very close to the speaker, congresswoman from connecticut. good to have you. >> it's wonderful to be here. let me just say i love your mom and i loved your dad. >> thank you very much. i appreciate that. but that ain't going to get you no favor on this show. no, i'm kidding you. let me ask you. >> i'm not looking for favor. >> you don't need it. >> my mom is watching. she will love to hear that. quickly about joe biden.

let me just play you what he said tonight. >> i have supported the hyde amendment like others have. %-p plan like others in this race and i have been struggling with the problems that hyde now presents. if i believe in health care as a right i can no longer support an amendment that makes that right dependent on someone's zip code. >> that's the position the majority of you hold and it's something that you want in a nominee. why is it a struggle for biden? >> you have to ask that of vice president biden. he now says he opposes the hyde amendment. i loath the hyde amendment. i have been working against that for many, many years. so he will go for the electorate and answer the question about, in fact, is he opposed to the

hyde amendment and people change their minds over the years. they evolve on specific issues. and maybe that's the case here. >> are you okay with how they handle it? >> you have to be definitive in what we're doing in this business. i am opposed to the hyde amendment and i have been for years. >> i get your position. i'm very clear. his position is moving around we'll see what that means in terms of his opponents and party. next item, so where are you guys on impeachment? pelosi has been slow. she has said we need consensus. let's get the facts out there and let that lead the way. more and more members of your party aren't satisfied with that. chairman nadler has an interesting proposal. not impeachment proceedings but impeachment inquiry. a distinct with a difference. let's put it in place and ask

the questions and maximize our powers and get this done. how do you feel about that? >> i support. i'm in agreement with the speaker. on this issue. i do think we need to have more -- keep in mind, there is about a quarter of the caucus that favors moving down the road and moving to an impeachment inquiry. three quarters of the caucus don't want to move in that direction but this is not the only area of accountability. we know what he says and what he does and he is provocative, et cetera, we need to be doing business with the con stitch -- constituents that i represent. yes act blt -- we've had some success with the courts on this issue. they're dealing with contempt efforts next week and we're going to have john dean that is going to testify.

let's go and ultimately chris, the voters are going to decide this issue. >> they're going to decide the issues about all of you in the next set of elections but now and then how do you show them that you're doing their job? what does the speaker tell you about what would be what is the threshold of taking it to the next step? >> i'll tell you what the people think about how we do our job. just go back to last november. what were the issues in that campaign that brought democrats to the majority. request >> health care was a big issue and 40% of them. said they want you to go after the president. >> health care. they also want us to do something about jobs and lowering prescription drugs. and jobs and increasing wages which is the biggest issue we have out there today in terms of people's lives and they wanted us to deal with finance reform and ethics reform et cetera. that's the road we're going

down. that's the road i'm going down. i chair the committee on labor, education and health. issues that face people in their every day lives. that's what they ask me about. internship and apprenticeship. is there money there? that's what we are doing. that's what we ought to be talking about. it's not only accountability. impeachment. are we accountable on the issues that face people every single day? >> when you guys talk about this more than anything else. >> we are. >> but the heads of your committees and what they have been focused on, they're all about the mueller probe and what it means and what's going to happen. it's within their perview but that's what dominated this situation. >> chris, whoa. >> go ahead. >> time-out. time-out. really, seriously. adam schiff he heads up intelligence.

nadler is judiciary. the issues are the -- i'll turn is back to you. the media is consumed with the issue of impeachment and where democrats are on the issue of impeachment. i'd love to have you speak about for the last 20 years we have been unable to do research on gun violence prevention. first time in 20 years, i know because it's my committee. we have a hearing and we put $50 million in it. $4 billion for education. and $2.4 billion for early childhood education. do you guys want to cover that? let's cover those things. let the people know what it is that the democratic congress is doing. >> all right. let's talk about what you're doing and not doing on an issue that's a major crisis and importance right now. crisis and importance. the border. >> we know what the situation is. kids are in need. dhs is crying out for money to

take better care of the kids and none of you is giving it to them, why? >> you talk about dhs department of homeland security. i don't know if people know the committee i chair. health and human services. they have the jurisdiction over unaccompanied children. >> yes. >> that's what a $2.9 billion is the request. i will been working on this issue and if people take a look at the appropriations bills that we did last year and the one that we have here you'll see what we have done in appropriating money. i would say i am willing to deal with the $2.9 million. i don't want to give this administration a blank check. why? because they need to give us guarantees that these children are being protected. and you ask, why is that? because you take a look at the history here.

what i have watched and what we are trying to prevent are kids in unlicensed facilities. places where they are not vetting. this is what we ought to be talking about. >> you're not dealing with the crisis. >> with all due respect i understand your concerns. i understand what they want to attach to the money in terms of that but you know that will kill the bill in the senate and you have a crisis on the border where they need money right now and you're not giving it to them. the secretary of hhs told the dhs secretary. >> hold on a second, the hhs secretary told dhs i can't take any more kids. i have no more money. i have nowhere to put them. it's illegal for them to do so. why don't you give them that money. >> why don't you talk to them about why they do not want to -- they probably stone walled you which is what they have done to us. a couple of very important things. department of homeland security

or health and human services, they signed a memorandum of agreement. this is last year and what it was was that hhs will transmit information to the department of homeland security and about the information about sponsors coming forward. what they wanted to do there was turn hhs whose mission is to put kids in a safe place and do it as expeditiously as possible. they wanted them to become immigration enforcers. they slowed down the process to a halt. they ground it to a halt. >> they need money for it. >> let's do it but let's guarantee that in those accommodations when you go to an unlicensed facility -- >> i know what's going to happen. >> but let's do this. i'm not just about tv.

this is about moving the ball forward. >> i'm moving the ball forward. >> i don't want to argue with you about it. >> we offered. we offered them. we made an offer $2.9 billion just layout -- we layed out several protections. several protections. please, ask secretary azar and ask my republican colleagues why they don't want to protect these kids. they can have the money in a nano second. just give us protection of these kids. while they are -- >> i'm going to tell you what i'm being told without violating any confidences. let's see if we can figure out where the caps are. that's more important than tv interview. thank you for arguing these points on the show. i'll call your office tomorrow. it will be late after the show tonight. i don't want to bother you tonight. >> that's wonderful. thank you. look forward to it. >> be well. >> we have someone here ahead that's challenging the conventional wisdom on impeachment that you were just hearing being argued by the

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yeah, you impeached clinton, you didn't remove him and then you got crushed in the midterms. that will happen to the democrats this time if they go the same way. true or false? >> really false. i mean, it is true that republicans lost seats in the 1998 midterm. it was the first time since 1834 that the president's party. the democratic party gained seats in the 6th year of a president's term. there was some cost. they lost five seeds. they still won the national popular vote. they still won the vote among independents. there were 91 republicans in districts that bill clinton won in 1996. four of them lost in 1998 and of course they kept control of the majority in 1998 and to me the most important point is that the lenses has been broadened. you can't just look to 1998. but you also have to think about 2000. >> let's look at that one. another tale of the tape is you

tried to kill clinton and lost and people hated that you did it. that's another situation that democrats will find themselves in. >> right. his job approval went up and his personal favorability went down as a result of the issues that were raised in the impeachment inquiry and of course the ken star investigation and george w. bush very effectively played off of that personal doubts about clinton by constantly talking about as one of his core promises that he restored honor and dignity to the oval office. i noticed that there were a fifth of all the voters but in 2000 had positive views of job performance but negative views of clinton personally. many more of the voters voted for george w. bush. they were a crucial part of the victory. there are reasons al gore lost. the supreme court. one of the reasons that george w. bush was so close to him that

all of those other things could matter despite the good economy. despite clinton's high approval rating where the personal doubts about clinton and those were inflamed by impeachment. >> it's an interesting lesson for this president now. he thinks he should stall all other efforts and focus on what they're trying to do to him. he worked through it and got a lot done. that obviously to his benefit. and then the last one is this. if you impeach but you do not remove, your voters will hate you for it and they'll remember and punish you. if they only impeach and can't remove they shouldn't do it at all. >> the bush campaign from 2000s and i quote someone that felt it was the opposite. they felt the fact that clinton had been impeached but not removed meant there were no consequences for his behavior and they thought increased republican turn out in 2000 because they wanted to finish the job and the only way to punish clinton was to vote against al gore. his vice president. now it's more direct. don't forget that bill clinton's approval rating was 23 points higher at the time of

impeachment than donald trump's is today and there was slightly less support for impeaching bill clinton than donald trump before the process started. i'm not saying that impeachment is a guaranteed for the democrats. the record is invalidates it's a guaranteed political loser. i think it suggests that democrats have much more leeway than they now believe to do what they think is morally and legally right without the certainty that impeachment is walking into a political buzz saw. >> that is very counter intuitive because it's not part of the predominant narrative. ron brownstein, the professor. thank you for teaching us what is right and what is not so right. all right. so now you have to blend it all together. what does this mean? should democrats stay on the impeachment road? go full force? do what nadler wants and open the inquiry or should they go the other route? beat the president and then have

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accountability? cuomo's court is in session. let's look legal. the politics will foal its way during the discussion. >> let's try to stick with what we know from law and fact and application to what is here. what do you believe is the biggest set of vulnerabilities for this president under any examination. >> the president committed ten acts of obstruction of justice. now the special counsel report said they could not or would not bring charges but there's ten acts of obstruction and i look forward to jim's answer on this but we know that they're obstructive acts. we know for a fact the the president fired the fbi director for the purpose of impeding the act of special counsel investigation. that's not in dispute. that's not a characterization of the facts. that is an act of obstruction of justice.

as a ru vulnerability is there are ten acts of impeachment. now do you pursue a criminal remedy? either of those can play out but we're getting lost in a lot of these procedural questions of what ought the house to do or will they open an inquiry versus a formal process or whatever. that's process. the simple fact is we have ten instances of obstruction and i'm not talking about volume one of the mueller report. i'm talking about the second portion of it. something has to be done with it. either it's political remedy or a legal one and something has to be done with it. >> that's why the process question matters. something has to be done. that's the main question. once you figure that out everything will fall into place. you don't agree. that he committed any obstruction of justice. you take them as arguments on facts. >> well, this have been no crimes that have been identified as obstruction of justice here. the fact of the matter is there were instances where the

president did commit certain acts. did they amount to obstruction of justice? i think that's arguably no. >> no, no. >> don't interrupt me. let me finish. >> you're mischaracterizing facts. >> there's no mischaracterizing of the facts. you have one law enforcement official with the authority to charge anyone that said there's enough evidence to charge anyone with obstruction of justice. mainly the president of the united states. your spin on the fact is that a crime occurred. nobody said that. bob mueller didn't say a crime occurred. bill barr didn't say. rod rosenstein that everyone respects. >> yes or no. did the president fire the fbi director, yes or no? yes.

>> the president has every right to fire the fbi director. >> and did he do so to impede -- >> one at a time. >> did he do so to impede -- an open investigation. >> you're manufacturing crimes. >> here's what i don't like about the overtalking. it's confusing to people. >> you're right. you say nobody found him guilty of any crime or charged him with anything but the only guy -- >> i didn't say guilty. they found no crimes here. >> he said i can't find any crimes. saying he didn't. >> no one has found that a crime occurred. >> he couldn't charge him. >> last time i checked in this country you build your case, you present your case and the case gets decided by a jury. innocent until proven guilty.

that's all you're doing here. you're reversing the process for your own purposes. and manufacturing something that didn't happen. >> did the president -- >> he had every right to fire fbi director. >> i have the page of the mueller report here with me. page 64 of volume 2 of the mueller report. does he fire the fbi director for the purpose of impeding an investigation? yes or no? the answer is yes. that's an act of obstruction of justice. now under justice department policy. >> all i heard was you talking. >> under justice department of policy they chose not to proceed with charging a president of the united states. >> it's an act of obstruction. >> you and i can differ as to how serious it is and whether it

ought to be charged. we can differ as to whether it ought to be impeached or whatever but we can't dispute that it is an act intended to impede and open law enforcement investigation. don mcgahn seeking to have him the white house counsel terminate the special counsel is an act of obstruction of justice. we can differ to the conclusion drawn from the act. >> what is your counter? >> what is your counter? >> he comes to the conclusion that the fact that the president or don mcgahn. let's assume for a second that the president ordered don mcgahn to terminate the special counsel. another special counsel would have been appointed there. so the fact that they were removing one and another one might have been appointed how does that amount to obstruction of justice in criminal context. plus let's not forget that the white house didn't assert executive privilege, turned over tons and tons of documents. thousands of documents.

open books as it relates to this investigation after two years, over $20 million, you come back with nothing. nothing. >> i hope you read the report. i think we read a different 448 pages. volume one aside, the russians interfere with the election. did the president conspire with the russians? no. we shouldn't even talk about it. >> it's something i'm going to argue in the closing. yes good minds can come at this two different ways. you're proof of that, but we still need more from mueller. the american people have to hear him say what they found, why they found it. no one is going to read the report. that would be a moment of clarity for congress and

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arguments on both sides of the issue whether tariffs will put pressure on mexico make them respond favorably to demands to toughen up on who is coming across their boarders to get to ours. i don't see how they all help the situation with the immigrant kids in terms of the crisis of getting the medical treatment and getting them processed faster or having them sleep somewhere that doesn't suck as bad. this new inspector general report found aggregious and conditions at ice facilities. they're all working together in the one dynamic.

so bad things in one place are bad in every place. the number of people in custody has ballooned since that report was done. things are only getting worse. congressman, welcome back to primetime. good to have you here. i know that you're in favor of the tariffs and i'm happy to talk to you about why but do you see what i'm saying when i say i don't see how they address the crisis of helping the kids? >> so i agree with you. so i was just at the border, chris. >> good for you. >> it breaks your heart to see how the kids are being handled. you see them sitting outside of facilities playing with rocks in the dirt. the saddest dirtiest little kids. they have nothing. here's the problem. if you want to resolve the issue, but number one you have to spend some money. you were talking about that. send money for the beds. when we had the shutdown five months ago president trump and republicans said give us unlimited amounts of money to house kids. give us more beds for kids. democrats were in opposition. they wanted 40,000 beds. we fought that battle and we lost it.

hopefully we're going to fight it again but we don't control the house democrats. they say they're compassionate. give more money for kids. number two, stop the flow of kids coming to our country. a child gets released in 20 days. parents are bringing kids. you don't want to separate. if you have a kid you get released with your child. >> it's a loophole. >> so you're bringing kids on this horrific journey. they're caught in a cross fire of bad policy and i can't imagine and by the way, investigations are going on now little kids are being sold -- you don't get fingerprinted. through the cartels to just come up with a new set of adults and they're being cycled across the border. >> it's happening in discreet cases. we can try to blame border patrol.

>> i'm not blaming border patrol. >> but they have been screaming at the top of their lungs to say we need congress to act and fix this problem and i agree with them. >> 100%. these stories come out, oh, they're taking medicine. they have to take medicine. when they find it on people. they have to make sure that it's safe and it's not being sold and then they use it and administer it. wasn't a fair story. i haven't had any come to me that they're causing any of these problems with the kids. it's the system. two steps back. >> we agree. this is amazing. >> it's about the change. >> you should get on your box and say to the democrats you're not giving them money. we want to give them money. it's not just about the fence. let's do something for these kids with no strings attached. it will expose who is doing what and who is not doing what. the second one is this. i get that tariffs are a muscular posture and it does seem that mexico does not like the idea of tariffs and they are

doing things in result. great saber rattle, nice. it doesn't help the situation with the kids. why doesn't the president use this emergency declaration and release that money. instead of them paint a fence behind the kids. use some of that money to help the kids right now? >> why are all of these kids coming? why are these parents bringing their kids to the border? >> better life. >> if you take away the incentive we could resolve this problem for good policy for the congress, number one. but the president can't get the congress to act. as you and i both agree there's good policy that could be implemented. compromise to be had. they hate the president so much they won't give him a win.

>> congress does know how to act. democrats passed a bill that would give green cards to illegals in our country. they're going to create additional incentives to bring more people to our borders instead of taking the incentive away. he promised to secure the border. if the congress doesn't act, mexico can do a lot to resolve the issue of people coming through their border with guatemala. it's only a quarter of the size of the border we have with mexico. there's different choke points. it makes it much smaller. 120 miles they could actually contain that border. i was talking to people about how long it took and it took from guatemala them four days to get to the states. let's stop the flow. >> the only problem i have is that you have a crisis with the kids that are already here and nobody is doing anything about it and those are the kids dying

on our watch and i don't get why you don't deal with that first. >> so if i was in control of the house, which i'm not, i'm in a minority party. >> we should take care. i have 8 kids. my ninth is on the way. i love kids. they shouldn't be pawns in any fight. >> then have the president, you know he listens to you. call him and say make a proposal on the kids and show that you have heart and you want to help these kids. >> but you have to get to the root cause of, the second time i bring this up, why are they bringing kids on this journey. >> i know you don't want to hear this but democrats want to put the president in jail. they want to impeach him. do you think they want to work with him on a compromise that could resolve the border. >> i don't like the idea of that

but you should have thought about that when you sat buy and applauded a president that said lock them up about everybody he doesn't like. this starts at the top. when you treat your enemies like dirt and you don't have any decency for anybody. this is where the dialogue goes. i don't like it. i don't allow it on my show. you know that about me. but i can't cry tears for a president when she says i want to see him in prison when he says lock them up for everybody he doesn't like. >> the president gets up every single day and tries to think of how he can make the american economy stronger which means the family stronger, the wages grow and the opportunities increase. he does it every single day. you might not like the tone and you might not like the tweets but that's what he is trying to do and the result of the president has been fantastic for the places i live. a place that was a democrat district for 40 years and they vote for president trump. finally they have a president fighting for them.

>> that's what the election should be about. i have no problem with that. he has to own actions that what elections are about. >> rosa is a friend of mine. we work on legislation together. >> we should be working on this together then because you have kids that are going to die at the border. >> she was tap dancing and you were like spend some money on the kids and she was trying to go back. >> nobody gets a pass on this show. that's why i'm so popular. >> they have been in control of the congress and they haven't done anything on the kids. you walk into these and it wreaks because you have so many people piled into one place. >> they are jurs just as desperate for help. you have more people coming. there's 100,000 migrants coming through. >> that's true. this is a crisis. we agree on it. if we fix the whole policy that

actually fixes the situation for the children. >> i've just never seen kids being ignored because of larger issues. that surround why they're in crisis. deal with all of it. that's all i'm saying. i appreciate you being here. >> if i could make one last point to you, chris, during the shutdown, there's a lot of fights that were going on and you covered them well and one thing we wanted and democrats tried to roll those beds back. to 40 thousand. and the question becomes why and when you can use kids in a crisis and pull at the heart strings you don't address the root cause of the problem. congress shoumd should make sure the kids shouldn't suffer because of bad policy. >> work on all of it.

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>> kyle lowry's right to be outraged. that's not some drunk stupid fan. it's one of the owners of the team, and you push a guy who just made a play like this. >> it's outrageous and should know better. you get a fan. obviously the fan shouldn't be doing that, no one should be doing it, but you think you're one of the owners of the team, you would no better. you should see what lebron james said. lebron james is not happy about this. >> what did he say? >> he said there's absolutely no place in our beautiful game for all of that. he went on to say, i have sat by and watched the playoffs and i haven't said a word about this but when i saw this this was outrageous. imagine if the -- he said imagine if kyle lowry, 7, would have reacted and put his hands back on him, they would have been going crazy. >> what if he pushed him back? forget about the arguments he'd be having now. >> he ended with the hashtag, #privilegeain'twelcome here.

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if there will be no removal? first, get mueller in the chair. look what an impact he had in just ten minutes. remember, he said nothing new, not a word of it. it was all everything that was in the report. but no one's reading the report. and even if they had hearing me say what he said versus hearing it from him directly has impact. okay? that will be helpful. get that done. now, mueller's also going to help because he is going to lay out all the different things that they found. it won't be you saying it, it will be him saying it. people trust him. and another bonus. the gop is going to go after him about the origins of the investigation. you can bet on that. that wasn't his responsibility. remember, he inherited the fbi's work to that point so it's not going to be very satisfying and he's no one to mess with. but the people will get this look and listen and it will be the best one yet, about what the president said and did and asked of others, what it means

legally and ethically. second, then you've got to make a call. enough with the talk. do your duty. that is your reason to be. that is the point of your existence. our constitution makes it clear. the house of representatives shall choose their speaker and other officers and shall have the sole power of impeachment, sole power means what it sounds like, this is up to you, no one else, no other body. that's what the constitution's about, checks and balances. they either function or they don't. it is time to stop acting out of fear of consequence, and act on good conscience. will democrats be satisfied with months of stymied efforts and more than ten investigations moving in different and often confounding directions? but the white house that can stymy the efforts, who knows how long, basically showing that concentrated resistance trumps the constitution. is that the message you want on your watch? you've got one in four democrats in the house that want to take the next step. not that much.

we put up all the pictures. it looks impressive but it isn't. this won't be an easy call. it is instructive that almost every one of the people running to your nominee in the next election for president -- they're going to pay the biggest price. so maybe the best answer is what chairman nadler is arguing, an impeachment inquiry. not an official proceeding. you're not going to put down the articles of impeachment, not looking at a charge but it's the real deal in terms of max effective force of congress in the courts. consolidate the efforts, and get it done quickly. don't you showboat. let the committees work on the myriad of other important issues to the american people. where it leads, how it ends, you can't know, and that should not be your guide. do your duty. this is d-day. we're celebrating people making the ultimate sacrifice only out of a matter of duty. take a look at the constitution. your job is to check the executive, whether to do that or

not or how that's up to you but you've got to make a decision. people will punish you doing nothing or going in different directions at once. rightly so. mr. mueller seemed to suggest that he found things in his report that required your oversight. get them up there. let it be clear for the american people and then you make a decision about what your duty is here and you do it. thank you for watching. "cnn tonight" starts right now. >> you sound like a man who knows a little bit about politics. i mean, if i didn't know better, i would think you came from a family of politicians. >> i come from a family of politicians, one of whom was referred to as hamlet. because of his vacillating about whether to run for president. which wasn't a fair characterization about pop, but it is fair in this situation. >> in this particular environment, you know, i think it's great that you're saying do your job. but there's so much more. that is the bottom line. but there's so much more that comes in with all of this. >> only if you let it. do the job --