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this is jared steven leone. he is 18 and in city hall in beaverton, oregon. according to him, he's high on mushrooms. so he starts a fight with some cops. they all wrestle and jared grabs a cop's gun and shoots it. more cops jump in. it ends up taking seven cops two full minutes to restrain jared and he makes it out alive! this is white privilege. if that idea bothers you, let's call it benefit of the doubt. those cops give him the benefit of the doubt that his life matters. that his life is worth saving. even when he takes one of their guns and shoots it.
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now, of course, when you're black, we rarely get that benefit of the doubt. the cops murdered laquan mcdonald in less than 30 seconds. cops killed tamir rice in two seconds. but jared got probation and a fine, skpaj bump on the forehead. in this episode, we are talking about the difference between two minutes and a few seconds. ♪ >> you want to call the police on him for having a barbecue at the lake? skble. >> you've seen the videos -- >> i'm white and i'm hot. >> the last couple of years they've been sweeping the nation. >> go back to where they belong.
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>> like a new beyonce album, they drop without warning and they are all anybody can talk about for days after. >> i love that she's the self-appointed barbecue police. >> it's illegal to barbecue with charcoal in the park here. >> i need a police officer to come. >> white lady calls the tops for black dudes for barbecuing in the park or won't let black person into the pool. >> get out! >> white lady won't let the black person into the pool. >> you are going to take my key? >> sounds like i'm repeating myself, but i'm not. there haven't been this many black people getting kicked all of pool since mlk had to dream. my personal favorite is -- >> illegally selling water without a permit. >> white lady calls the cops on a little black girl for selling water on a hot day. what she's doing there, that's the opposite of white privilege. all these videos have a few things in common. all the white people get nicknames and the white people harassing the black people end up being properly ridiculous and this is the key ingredient,
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none of the black people end up dead. which is so different than the videos featuring eric garner, philando castile and so many more. people like me thought roaring -- recording cell phone footage of cops and people acting like cops doing unjust things would lead to justice. but time and time again, we found that it doesn't. cops and people acting like cops get away with murdering people -- black people all the time. people are not just recording and waiting for the cops to show up, they are getting involved >> did you seriously just call the police on a child? >> fewer bystanders, more upstanders. so the cops don't have to get involved. if they do, sometimes it's just to comfort the snow flakes. it will be okay, becky. while the stuff may be new for some of you white folks, my people have been talking about these stories since that famous boat ride. in this episode, white folks, i'm inviting you to the conversation. welcome to the black people meeting. >> good morning! >> please don't bring your potato salad with the raisins in
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it. we can do this in any city, but one place is the most segregated city in the country. before you guess a bunch of cities below the mason dpoiks line, i'll just tell you, milwaukee, wisconsin. they have the most amount of neighborhoods that are defined by race. the home of happy days and harley davidson is a home to a lot of racism. structural and hold up. another viral video just dropped right in our laps. >> today is supposed to be the hunting park party. we pull up to start setting up and this lady walks up to me and said you need a permit and i need you to take this down. so we might have a problem here today. >> that's white people the calling police again, huh? >> why do they all call the police and they stand there and wait on it? >> this one has an m night shyamalan twist. we were there just as it was going on. >> cnn just rolled up.
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funny thousand universe works. >> we can use these fancy cameras. >> i got a call and you can put in your name and stuff. >> i never heard of such a thing. they are passing out candy. >> i will talk to my supervisor and see what's going on. i appreciate your cooperation. >> i'm kamau bell. we're doing an episode about living while black in milwaukee. >> it's rough. my brother, it's rough. >> you're in the right spot. >> so what happened? do you mind talking to us? >> yeah, we have been working this park since 2016 for for whatever reason, this lady shows up and tries to walk up to me and i don't have a permit. >> see right there, halloween helen. >> black folks, we are all defeated. you have a name. halloween helen. okay, it's already started. are you surprised? >> absolutely not. growing up in mississippi i can probably still count on one
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hand, probably maybe two or three hands at the most that were racial. here, i was here not even a year and had my first racial run in at 14 or 15. if you don't know, you are going to know right away where you are not wanted or welcome at. >> wow we just rolled up. let's find some living while black. here it is. now we can get back to why we came to the park in the first place. i came to speak to reggie jackson. not that one or that one. this one. an historian who don't play games. >> it's crazy we walked right into that. >> it's amazing. we joke about it, but hashtag, whatever. it's not funny, though. >> no. >> especially in milwaukee between the police department and the black people. it's always been a bad relationship. there have been a history of things, incidents of unarmed blacks being killed by the police. even this neighborhood, the
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sherman park neighborhood. will smith was shot two blocks away from the gas station. and then later that evening basically it just got crazy. on august 13th, 2016, the police shot and killed 23-year-old seville smith and 100 protesters came to be near the site of the killing. things got hectic. a local gas station and auto parts store and bank were burned down. >> everyone is kind of aware of what happened with the civil unrest, but people don't know what led up to that. that unto about seville smith being shot. there were underlying causes that led to people being very upset. from 1963 until 2015, the city of milwaukee lost 91,000 manufacturing jobs. 91,000 good jobs left. a lot of the manufacturing jobs are out in the suburbs. or /* people don't have access to get out to where the jobs are. as a result of that, you have
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high rates of poverty and crime and you have schools that are not effective. the underlying cause was a record related to the history of segregation. we are surrounded by 18 suburbs that surround the city of milwaukee. 86% of the people who live in those suburbs are white. only 6.4% of black people in milwaukee county live outside the city of milwaukee. that's the lowest of any of the most highly segregated cities in the country. especially since 40% of the residents are black. >> hold up. a lot of you are shocked because you didn't know there were black people in milwaukee. but at 40%. milwaukee is blacker than chicago, oakland, and the city of compton. >> you have a very diverse city. a very diverse city surrounded by communities that are not diverse at all. when you look at what segregation has done to milwaukee in terms of relationships between the police department and the black
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community, is that people black feel as of they are surveilled everywhere they go in milwaukee. there's one district where blacks make up like 3% in their district, but make up 67% of the people stopped by police. just look at the incident with milwaukee bucks player sterling brown who was accosted for parking in the handicap spot. >> taser, taser, taser! >> there is this ideas that you can achieve your way out of this. it doesn't matter if you go to college or get a good job. it doesn't matter any of those things. >> right. >> the police will still see you as someone who is up to no good. >> all these things kind of work together to create a perfect storm in milwaukee. >> i heard people coming from the south and going, man, milwaukee is more -- i feel racism deeper in milwaukee than i did in the south. >> yeah, i often refer to our
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state as wississippi. >> that's good. i don't know if i'm allowed to say that, but that's good. wississippi. (paul) great. another wireless ad. so many of them are full of this complicated, tricky language about their network and offers and blah blah blah. look. sprint's going to do things differently. and let you decide for yourself. they're offering a new 100% total satisfaction guarantee. try it out and see the savings. if you don't love it, get your money back. see? simple. now sprint's unlimited plan comes with one of the newest phones included for just $35 a month. so switch now. for people with hearing loss, visit sprintrelay.com one of the biggest viral ♪
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what is that? uh mine, why? it's just that it's... lavender. yes it is, it's for men but i like the smell of it laughs ♪ >> there are two black guys sitting here meeting? one of the biggest viral videos from a philadelphia starbucks where the manager called cops on two black men while they were waiting for a business partner to arrive. >> they didn't do anything. i saw the entire thing. >> you might have been shocked when you heard about it, but i wasn't.
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because i also have some experience of a coffee shop with some not wanting me to be in their coffee shop. >> he came here to the elmwood cafe in berkeley. he met up with his wife sitting in an outdoor table and showing her a book when the employee knocked on the window and told him to go away. >> i went away and went straight to the internet and told everyone. after those things happened, i think a lot about where i get my coffee. in milwaukee, there's a place if i get kicked out, it won't be because of the color of my skin, it will be because of the content of my character. coffee makes you black is a shop that serves to black people and people who are nervous being near black people. >> milwaukee in the 60s was the 11th largest city in the united states. >> really? >> yeah. isn't that strange? what happened? >> this is serita mcfadden, a
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writer and english professor and she knows all about black history here. >> black people moved out of the south to escape racism and moved to the northern cities where there was no racism. >> there was so much racism. >> exactly. >> it's hilarsad. >> or sad larious. >> the middle west north buys into this narrative that they are far more superior in terms of character and tolerance. we call it mitt midwest ninth. there is this veneer of like i'm not in my heart races. you are doing shut that's racist af. let's just go with why this city has the shape that it does. this map is from 1937. it's what they call a security map, but in come on parlance we can call ate red-lining map. it was a series of maps produced by the federal government.
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they did these surveys and neighborhood appraisals to determine where they would issue home loans. the green areas are like good loans. the red is basically areas that they say are on a decline and blighted. everybody black concentrated in this area. they made a distinction about where the black people live. no other ethnic group. u. to say the very existence of blackness would devalue this someplace, therefore, it should be prohibited in this space? that is what you're saying. it's by design. this was intentional. so we can point to a legacy of, like, systemic inequality. >> when you see this on a map like this, racism is not just like a feeling. it's also an institution and a structure. >> after three seasons of this show, this seems like as good a time as any to define racism. most people say it's hating someone based on their skin color. in that case i use that definition too. >> i have black relatives who are racist.
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>> but every academic i know says hating someone or treating someone poorly is prejudice. >> being racist is not just prejudice. it's prejudice plus power. >> think of prejudice as just one cop. but racism is the entire police department that has that cop's back. if a banker doesn't give a black person a home loan, that might be prejudice. but if they have approval of the bank, that's racism at work. and in america, racism gets a lot of work. it's embedded in the structures and institution of the country because of how this country was founded. it's why you can't just hire black people into racist institutions and expect the institution to not be racist anymore. white people, if that's making your head swim right now, imagine that going through your head every time you apply for a job, talk to a police officer or walk outside. no offense to my white crew members.
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except for these, one, two, three, four, five. he's from alabama so i don't think of him as white. as a black man, every video, michael brown and garner and philando castile. i'm seeing myself in that. even if i never have been in that situation. eric garner is on the ground being choked out and saying i can't breathe and he has asthma and i'm a 6'4" black man with asthma. white people don't see white people in these videos and see themselves. we had enough of these videos of white women that feel like you must have seen the other videos. you think in that moment, wait a minute. am i about to get a hashtag with a name that's not mine? >> white people see groups with people of color and individual white people. that's just their m.o. it's nice to see the stories are aggravated because that behavior, particularly white folks saying i believe this black body does not belong in this coded white space. therefore, i feel threatened and
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i know that i have the agency to call some authority figure to correct that. >> or i have the agency to be the authority figure. >> that's how it feels to be in milwaukee. >> everything we talked about may seem impossible and too big to dismantle. but there's a workshop across town trying to do just that. complete with power point. >> we're are defining the anti-blackness is the distance between black people and your acceptance of their name. >> it's put on by university of milwaukee wisconsin. >> today's workshop is focused on dignity and anti-blackness. and we focus on the dignity as our responsibility. dignity resonates with folks deeply because we're talking about every single individual can talk about how their dignity hasn't been afterward. this is a practically application of how do we connect on a healing level. >> this work is very important for cities that are going through what the real estate people and the politicians call a renaissance.
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i went through the milwaukee and you can see the construction around it. i'm sure formerly that was buildings or warehouses and now it's like high end real estate. that changes literally the complexion of the city. >> as milwaukee gains a reputation of a place for young professionals to be, it's good for white young upper class educated proeshlz and not -- educated professionals and not everybody else. what does it mean to be in a position to rupt it or say i have this privilege and i have this power and i have this know how and i run in the circles. we got to change something about this city. >> maybe i need to turn it into a workshop. >> boop. >> talk more about the history. >> a couple steps. i entered grad school and i was in the classroom space and y'all got me effed up.
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black people effed up. you have the same degree as me and you don't know how to treat black people. that's kind of of the impetus of this. >> did you get your ph.d. >> yes. >> so i should call you doctor? >> i mean, you know. >> my wife is a ph.d. so i know that is a real serious thing. she makes me call her doctor around the house. >> see? i'm not going to fight. >> when these workshops happened, it feels like it's either black people showing up who are kind of like yeah, you know what i mean or white people saying oh, my god, i never had these thoughts. if those people are in the room together, one of them is not being served sometimes. >> what we learned is a lot of the issues of other interactions of oppression become more real. we focus on race and yeah, you can bring up that white people are problematic, but black people play into that, too. even you. >> oh, yeah. >> so what does that mean in this space? >> just for the record as i came in, one of the producers said you are related to --
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from. if you are from here or want to get something going on, you had chicago or new york or anywhere not milwaukee. according to a study by the university of wisconsin, madison, the state lost 14,000 college graduates per year between 2008 and 2012. that's called brain drain. brain drain hurts milwaukee's ability to innovate over the years. but there are people doing their part to keep all the brains here. people like lisa caesar, a harvard-educated entrepreneur and her brother, john ridley, a hollywood writer, director, and producer with a packed resume, mostly known for winning an oscar for writing this. >> do you believe in justice as you said? >> i do. >> slavery is an evil that should befall none. >> the feel good movie of the summer. >> the things that i had to learn about slavery to even
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begin to execute "12 years" is that there's a system put in place that becomes mass psychosis. to make it work, you have to get so many people involved. that's the thing that hurts the most. we see it still happening. >> they grew up in milwaukee and left for careers in new york and los angeles. now they have come home and converted part of a brewery that closed over 20 years ago into no studios. they take people's dreams of show business and shows how they can be a reality. >> i remember as a kid to be a young black guy in milwaukee thinking about i want to be a writer or an artist or work in film, it seemed like a million miles away. 30 years later, to actually accomplish those things and realize there are other young kids, black, hispanic, asian, gay, straight, queer, whatever. who were feel that same thing. there are people who could actually do the things they
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love, but do it from milwaukee. >> i have a little bit of talent, i better get out of here. >> what if we were to embrace that talent instead of systematically suppressing it? we grew up in a suburb of milwaukee. there were no black folks where we grew up. virtually none. >> even when we moved in, as few black people on that, we all lived on that block. we all lived on that block. >> that block was a black section? >> back in the day they call i had n-word row. >> you were treated as not quite as american as everyone else. when you are a child, you incident to internalize that. >> trust me, we had it good by comparison. our father was a practicing doctor here for a long time and mother was a teacher. he's a serviceman and
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volunteered. and he was in the air force. he just tells a story about coming up to milwaukee and stopping in a restaurant. you were a baby. he was just accosted by this gang of young white kids. he thought if he didn't have you in his arms, they would have beaten him and beaten my mother. he talks about when he got a house on the phone. it was all good and he checked on the house. who is moving in here? he would talk that he ended up on this board. i'm the first black man on this board and i was the first black man as part of this committee. he was not saying it in a bragging way, he was just talking about his experiences. that's amazing that you did that. it wasn't amazing, but when you are black and particularly in milwaukee, if you did something, you became that first person. you led by example. we are a by-product of our parents. our parents fought and stood up.
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i think the thing we wanted to do was create a space and let people know these things are not accidental. part of what we want to do is make people realize that you can be comfortable with anybody. what are the things we have in common and enjoy? you have to get people working together. that's really the thing. >> i like this. i'm about to come back here. no, i'll get you to commit on camera. when this episode is ready to air, can we do a screening of it here? >> yes, absolutely. we can make that work. >> absolutely. make it happen on camera. >> it's a binding contract. verbal agreement. >> and people in hollywood never lie. so you have nothing to worry about. >> that's right. also available in hybrid all-wheel drive. lease the 2019 ux 200 for $329/month for 36 months. experience amazing at your lexus dealer. who got an awful skin condition.
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next, we are going to switch it up. instead of a black people meeting, a people of color meeting. this episode's been hard. i'll have some fun at bounce milwaukee before we get into it. i'm meeting with student activists. they are part of leaders igniting transformation or lit for short. which takes on issues of race in milwaukee's education system. >> down goes frasier!
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down depose frasier! ? after i passed the concussion protocol and took a hit from my puffer, it's time for the people of color meeting. >> our organization is filling a need that combines black and brown young people. that's the need we fill in milwaukee. bringing together young people to not only make our city better, but hopefully ease racial tensions. amongst people of color. >> in milwaukee that's a bipgd. >> very big deal. >> something i love about lit, we are all people of color. people in public education to bring black and brown youth together. they have white staff. how are you going to do that? we need to throw the whole thing away and start all over. >> when you say 240e6r8the whol, what's the whole thing? >> the whole concept of public education. >> already, okay. >> tearing it down may not be a bad idea. last year lit and the center of popular democracy shows that the black high school students made up 53%
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of the student body but accounted for 80% of the over 10,000 suspensions in the 2015, 2016 school year. double the national rate. not only that, more than 100 black students were expelled for things white students were just suspended over. worst of all, students of color were 85% turned over to the police. that's the pipeline in action. while the system is racist, what affects students more is the subtle ways educators crossed boundaries when it comes to race. >> last year we had to pic an organization to work with and my teacher told me she wanted me to help out a foster home. and i was like, why? and she said, don't you come from foster care? >> wow. >> and i was like -- and i asked her, i said, where did you get that from? >> it's almost like when she was talking about it just happened this year. it was actually wacky tacky wednesday.
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>> i already know. >> i was all crazy. my hair was crazy and all in the ponytails and stuff. one of the faculty came into my classroom to get this college letter and she continues to say you know what you remind me of? a pekingese dog. i didn't know what it was. i googled what i thought it was. she said no, that's not how you spell it. she retyped it and searched it. >> let me direct you more effectively to the racism. >> this is what a pick anyoneny doll looks like, and no, she doesn't look like one, because nobody does. if i give you the power overtime and space and harry potter magic, what would you do to fix the problems? >> when you meet somebody, you see a glimpse of their past. that makes us take a step back
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and think about how we interact. >> i like that one. >> that went deep, deep. >> admit it. you knew it was a matter of time before we talked about the criminal justice system. milwaukee is black folks are so caught up in the system, they are the most incarcerated zip code in the country. 62% of incarcerated and as a whole, more than half of all black men ask 30s and early 40s at some point have been behind bars. this pipeline of prison can be traced to the milwaukee police department's stop and frisk. the aclu took notice and sued the city and won the case. i am meeting with the plaintiffs. gregory chambers, steven jansen, and david crowley, along with their aclu rep at the wisconsin black historical society. >> they should have a general perception with wisconsin that black people don't live here. is that it? have you heard that? >> i hear it everywhere i go.
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i went to new york and when i told people i was from wisconsin, their eyes were wide open. >> ain't no cows in milwaukee. >> this black people meeting is an inside job. see, i'm the ambassador for racial justice, and i had the same reaction you just had. i'm a celebrity? >> talk about why they get involved in this and including stories that are not about black people being killed by cops. therefore, they're harder to tell and harder for people to understand the racism. >> right. >> it's absolutely completely pervasive and not just cities like milwaukee, especially milwaukee, but other cities as well. what we ended up finding out with the city of milwaukee and milwaukee police department's own data, we found they stopped 350,000 unconstitutionally. >> the numbers are ridiculous and what's harder to measure is the emotional toll and you could end up dead for nothing. to listen steven who was walking home from class and randomly
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accused of marijuana possession. >> i said i don't smoke marijuana, and he just kind of stopped and stared at me. in that moment, you realize if something happens to you and you make sudden movements, you could be on the pavement. it's his word against nobody's. >> so what if you did smell like weed? you didn't smell like a bank robbery. >> and then there was a state rep trying to walk through an area where gunshots were heard. >> i guarantee i probably wouldn't have been stopped. >> maybe asked if you were all right or given you a ride home. >> sunday afternoon and i was driving home and noticed there was a squad car behind me. sirens went off. i rolled down the window. both officers get out the car and approach. basically they told me whatever reason my plates didn't match dar. so the cop on the driver's side goes. checks my information, takes my
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i.d. the other cop is still staring in the car. he starts playing with the holster on the gun. mind you, this is just fresh after sterling brown was murdered, philando castile was killed right in front of his girlfriend and his child. i keep telling myself don't say anything. don't get enraged or mad because it could all turn bad. finally the cop does come back, the other officer. he's like everything seems to check out. that's cool. they walk away and get in the car and i literally turned around to wait for them to pull off. the rage and anger that i immediately felt in that moment to know your life can be on a thread like that. it's auto it's a fine line and to them it's like a snip and that's it. >> people will hear you tell that story and say what's the big deal? nothing happened. why are you so angry?
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>> yeah, and i think that's the crazy part. i remember telling that to people. you see a scary movie and the killer is toying with his victim, you know, twisting the knife around as his victim is gagged. imagine having somebody who has a weapon right in front of you and they are toying with the very thing that has been responsible for the neutralization of people's lives. if you don't see the fear in that, i don't know what else to tell you. >> yeah. >> one white woman came in and asked me do you get tired of having these conversations as a black man? you know what, yes! at the same time understand this is the only way i will make sure my children see something different. we are the ones who have to come up with the solution. we are the solution to this and understanding that we just need some partners. >> that's why we did this. it was entirely about changing the community and changing the way that policing takes place. >> and the george soros.
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weren't violent, those men stood up because the same situations can end up in violence. take the story of maria hamilton's son. >> i feel his fear. i very seldom go to the cemetery because his blood and life is in this park. >> in 2014 the manager of this starbucks called the police on the 31-year-old who was waiting for his brother on the park bench. >> the police were called on three occasions. they went and spoke with him and came to the conclusion he was not doing anything wrong and not bothering anybody. and so they left. >> unsatisfied with the response to her calls, the manager called a personal friend on the force to the scene. officer christopher manning. officer manning confronted don tray who was unarmed and hadn't
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been bothering anybody. >> here stood over his head. don tray was startled and jumped up. he tried to do a legal pat-down. dontray resisted. >> the officer unloaded 14 bullets into him, killing him. he was not bothering anyone, even according to other cops at the scene. >> his life was taken for that. because of a manager at starbucks profiling him as a homeless man and felt as though his presence stopped them from making money? >> more than 14 bullets. in broad daylight. unimaginable.more than 14 bulle. in broad daylight. unimaginablmore than 14 bullets. in broad daylight. unimaginablmore than 14 bullets. in broad daylight. unimaginable. >> right. >> thank you. >> following the shooting the
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police said he had a prior history of raefsz and said the arrests were directly connected to his mental health issues. >> was any of that true? >> none of it is true. he had not robbed nobody. in 2016 he was diagnosed as paranoid schizophrenic. he never tried to hurt anybody. >> there is an assumption that everybody with mental health issues can turn violent. >> yep, that they're violent. >> that's not the case overwhelmingly. >> no, it's not. >> the bigger question is why are the cops the first responders to things that don't involve crime? too toxin presence of police criminalizes people who may be hanging out in the park or having a bad day or may be in crisis. in 2017, mental illness was a factor in 25% of police shootings. >> this was a couple of weeks before he died. >> wow. i notice in the pictures he was smiling. >> that was his uniqueness. he smiled all the time.
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when his life was taken from us, we didn't know what to do. >> adding to maria's grief, the police did not even file criminal charges. they said his use of deadly force, 14 shots into dontre, was justifiable. we've heard that way too many times before. >> it was like am i in a movie? and my fight even to this day is the truth. all i ever wanted was the truth. so i was pulled into a fight trying to get the truth. >> whenever a black youth or black person is murdered by a police officer, often we see the moms step up. >> if we don't save our babies, they're not going to save us.
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>> maria and the mothers of eric garner, trayvon martin, sandra bland and tamir rice have joined forces and joined mothers of the movement to support each other and fight for police reform. maria has also started her own group, mothers for justice united to support the moms whose families have been affected. it's an indictment of our entire country that we even need these groups. >> i wish you didn't have to do that work and feel compelled to do that work, but i thank you for doing that work. >> thank you. whoever voice i have to be, i will be that voice. until their parent or their parents or loved ones are strong enough to fight for them. >> well, thank you. laughs ♪
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♪ from the videos to the conversations so far, it's clear that the heart of the question is prejudice and racial bias and while some of you may point to the klan and alt-right and say, hey, that's not me, pal, i have some bad news, everybody acts on their racial biases all the time without even thinking about it. we don't have racism to back us up. acting on your racial bias and not realizing it is called implicit bias. it's like a white lady in the park seeing a person of color and immediately seeing a threat or criminal and not giving that person the benefit of the doubt as a human who likes to barbecue.
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and might have some extra if you're friendly. >> a lot of the research out there is focused on sort of racial attitudes and ask people in surveys are you racist? and people basically say no. >> 100% of people aren't racist. >> right. >> so i'm having one last black people meeting with university of wisconsin professor john diamond, an expert on the subject. i was not familiar with the term implicit bias until about four years ago. something happened to me and it was referred to implicit bias. i called it racism. >> yeah, so tony greenwall established project implicit about 20 years ago so what they were trying to figure out is what is going on in people's minds before they are able to think about what is the socially responsible answer. right? the way to think about implicit bias is you don't have to necessarily dislike people of other races to be affected by it. right? it's in everything that you do. somebody walks through a door and it's a man, you have some assumptions about what that means, and we've also been
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conditioned not to talk about it, right? >> researchers from harvard and the university of virginia created a test that can measure a person's implicit bias. the idea being that maybe if we can measure it, we can dismantle it. >> they find people have a hard time associating good characteristics with black faces. >> is that everybody? >> about 80% of white people. >> what about for black people? >> for black people, we're less likely to favor white people but we still tend to flavor white people slightly. so the challenge is thinking about not just what people's intentions are but like how do you grow up in a world where white supremacy is sort of embedded in everything and you embed it into self-consciousness. >> there is a test, right? >> there is. >> i feel like i'm hip to this stuff. is it smarter than me is basically what i'm saying. >> the way it's set up, i think it is. >> okay. >> now we answer the question many of you had for more than three seasons, how racist in kamau.
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>> i would accept an invitation to a white person to their home because if i didn't, i wouldn't be able to hang with my in-laws so i would say strongly agree. >> the first part is pick the level to which you agree or disagree. >> most white people can't be trusted to deal honestly with black people. [ laughter ] i'll cover this from cnn's eyes, i don't mean my bosses at cnn. you guys are great with black tv hosts. >> the second part of the test is a little bit more tricky. i had to quickly pick black and white faces and decide if certain words were good or bad. just so we're clear, this is what the test looks like. you can find it here. but this is what the test feels like. ♪ >> i don't like this. i don't like this at all. >> all right. your data suggests a moderate
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automatic preference for african-americans over europeans. woo, hoo, hoo, moderate preference for black people. that's my brand. whether you agree with the results, it's the conversations after the results. >> what does it mean? are the implications of that? it does mean stuff. connected to how people react in school, discipline, policing, all those things, it matters. >> i think i'll make everybody on the crew take it. [ laughter ] i already know who on the crew will have a strong preference for black people. what's up, dwayne? [ laughter ] >> this week in milwaukee has featured a bunch of great black people meetings and one people of color meeting, and hopefully gives you white people out there a sense of what we're going through and what people of color talk about regularly. and even though this show's coming to an end, this week we all have a homework assignment. go and take the implicit bias test because whether you think you're bias or not, racism is part of your life with or without knowing it. if we measure it, hopefully we
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did dismantle it. and white folks, if you don't think about your own bias then there is a chance you're going to end up in one of those videos harassing people who don't deserve it, or even worse, getting somebody killed. because we ain't all jared steven leony. they packed the streets of hong kong -- protesters showing their outrage as the city tries to pass a controversial extradition bill. but now chinese officials blame the united states for the massive demonstrations. we'll sort it all out for you. plus they fought for isis and now they're facing the consequences. we hear from two of the so-called isis beatles. also ahead this hour, a show on netflix brings attention to the deep rift between israelis and palestinians. we'll hear why it is both popular and controversial. we are live from cnn world headquarters in atlanta and we wa
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