they don't like that. they want to hear more from him and they want him to explain the criticism that he faced from all of these women before they could consider voting for him they said. i asked if biden if he is the nominee would you vote for him? absolutely. whoever the democratic nominee is but they don't feel inspired by joe biden the way some of them do by someone and they also pete buttigieg. and they feel biden has baggage and they're not sure that he can take that all the way to beat donald trump so they're looking for inspiration and hope and they're not getting it yet from joe biden. >> thank you very much. that's it for us. the news continues. i want to hand it over to chris for cuomo primetime. >> thank you. i am chris cuomo and welcome to "prime time". we have a big line-up for you and wild breaking news. the host of hbo's real time is here tonight and he has concerns about this president and the people trying to unseat him. and you remember when the brother of north korean leader

kim jong un was assassinated about two years ago? now there's reports he was working with the cia. was there despite's brother killed for being an american spy? we have breaking details. and we also have the president's acting dhs secretary here on the eve of his new desperate plea to congress for help with these kids at the border. what does he want congress and you to know? the truth about who is holding up the funding and the truth of this other deal potus keeps teasing. big guest to start the week. let's get after it. >> now bill mar ain't subtle. he takes on the right. takes on the left and now he's taking on las vegas with a residency at the marage. tonight he's here with heavy concerns and fears. >> what a pleasure. bill maher joins us on primetime. >> great to be here. >> thank you for taking the

opportunity. >> so so much to ask you about. how much i want to get your sense of. let's start general. how would you describe the state of play going on in our political culture today. >> not good. first of all we can't even agree on a set of facts. if you can't agree on the facts, how can you come up with a solution? i don't think we ever had it that bad and i know that this goes back aways. the republicans always blame the robert fiasco. when was that? late 80s. it's tit for tat. and if they impeach trump, whoever the next democrat is they'll impeach him. they don't care about the facts. they'll do it for anything. they tried to something on obama. hillary, benghazi. which was a nothing burger. they kept her on the stand for

12 hours. to get one sound bite. >> one they got her on the stand. she stayed for 11 hours as a testament to what this president won't do. >> it was all to get one sound bite for her to say what difference does it make. and then they went cut that's a wrap. we got what we want. we need that for the commercial. >> and leveraging that lives were lost. that was a tragedy worth looking at and they made the most of that as if that was their cause. it was political all along. now the push back on this idea is well that's because both sides won't own the facts. both sides are stretching what is real and true. do you accept that or do you see one side as the agitator? >> of course not. both sides do a version of spin. but one side plainly is leagues worse than the others and size matters. you could do a whole book about trump called he thinks. just stuff he thinks that no one else thinks.

he's lately been having a feud with the wind. he talked about the wind a lot. he literally said it's great that i'm president because if i wasn't america would be running on wind power and that would be very bad because the wind only blows sometimes. he literally thinks wind power is dependent on when the wind mills like -- he thinks that. he thinks -- he says it all the time. the stealth fighter is literally invisible. >> do you think he's playing what he sees as people's ignorance or do you think it's an echo of his own? >> i think it's his own. i think it's a combination of both. he's had a lot of tutorials. take something like climate change. when he came into office ivanka talked to him. leo dicaprio came. he entertained al gore. but he still tweets about if it's cold out in the winter, there's your global warming. >> he doesn't get the difference

between weather or climate although one of his golf clubs asked for a sea wall because of the effects of it. >> is that someone that doesn't understand it or he's just trolling? a lot of times he's just owning the libs. that's what republicans do in this era. more than any policy. they want to make liberal's cry. >> republicans or do you think he is a class of his own? >> well, he's both. it's funny because he's the worst of both worlds. what i ghefrt i never get about the republican base never catches on to the bait and switch. he's a new kind of republican but when he gets into office, what does he do? tax cut for the rich people. the person that's going to -- i'm going to stand up for you the little guy and i'm going to be your voice and when they get into office, why can't we have nice things like infrastructure? because they spent a trillion dollars giving it to people that need it the least. there's went that trillion dollars. it's funny when democrats are in office you can't spend any money because we have a debt that's going to saddle our grandchildren.

and as soon as the republican gets into office they put everything on the card and when they get out of office like they're a black out drunk i did what? i spent what? >> and then win the narrative that democrat means tax and spend. >> how do they win the narrative on anything? how do they win the narrative on being the party of national defense. donald trump is a guy that literally takes sides with countries that are not us. that may not technically be the definition of treason but it's good enough for me when the president of the united states says okay i listen to my people, the thank you for your service people which we should say to them, the admirals, the generals, the fbi, the cia, they all told me one thing but i'm going with the head of russia or kim jong un. i'm going to believe him over them. what? i'm a crazy guy. agree with the people who are americans. >> why don't the voters that support the president who almost to a man or woman say i'm a

patriot and the democrats don't love our country enough, why didn't the example of helsinki let's say, why wasn't that enough to change their view? >> because it's a cult. it's a great question. i ask it all the time. why do republicans get what i call patriotic immunity. they can do anything and they're not questioned where as a democrat in office, the least little thing and they make it up. you know, he apologized on foreign soil. okay. was that in the rule book? or he wore a tan suit. remember? he saluted with coffee in his hand. your guy is a traitor. he literally sides with countries that aren't america and you're talking about a tan suit? i don't get it. >> do you think he's winning? >> yes. and i'm sick of winning. he's right. i'm sick of winning. his winning. but we'll see. a lot of the recent polls show -- it's funny, in a great economy but not great for a lot

of people, you have to remember that. >> that's narrative. >> yes it's low unemployment but what kind of jobs do people have? how secure are they? >> what about underemployment. >> yeah. >> can they get healthcare. >> less hours. less money. >> they never seem to catch on to this bait and switch about, you vote for this guy who is going to be the little man's champion and he gives all the money to the rich people. you have this idea that your path to the american dream is blocked by immigrants and single mothers on food stamps. that's who has all the the money. >> and he's going to beat people up that you don't like. >> a big part of it. i know them. i know their game. i'm in their game and they can't handle me. i will beat them up for you. >> right. >> that goes a long way. >> he does that. he is a blustery guy. people vote not on issues. especially anymore. they vote on weakness or strength. what they perceive it. i showed a couple of beto

getting his hair cut a couple of weeks ago. did you see the video? he looks like a 10-year-old in the barber chair. this is worse than decaucus with the snoopi hat. people see this guy in the barber chair. they want an authoritarian figure. it didn't look like someone that's going to stand up to putin and the rest of the world. >> that's what he is talking about. somebody that he likes. he has painful obvious honesty about things. we go a step deeper. who does he think will emerge to knock some sense into the dualing democrats. what is his advice for the crowded 2020 field. the emphasis is crowded. and what is the cancer that he says is killing progressivism? all of that is next. calling all sunscreen haters.

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no question. he has criticism for the president. not just him. legit concerns about all the democrats taking him on. emphasis on all the dems. the democrats have a huge field. what do you see in the field? >> first of all too many people. that alone looks silly when you have 23 or 24 people and some of them are -- i don't even know why they're running. i've asked them. why you? right off the bat we're stumped. >> do you believe if you have so many that means you have nobody? >> donald trump should have been someone that made the democrats go wow. we have to be serious now and i cut out the non-sense that made us lose the election last time.

i don't think i have seen that so far. the a denltty politics and cutting each other up, obama said circular firing squad. you invoke that phrase. you'd think with donald trump as president and the state we're in in this country they would not need to have that warning be given but i hope obama does that again. he is the one person who has the authority as the ex-president and rather beloved president of recent vintage that can do that. that can knock democrats heads together and say we have to get serious. stop carping at each other. joe biden with the back of the head and the eskimo kisses, who cares. if this is the guy to beat trump it's unconcienable. to be pecking at him this way in the beginning. >> he went after biden for that. >> the media ran with it and it got traction. >> and how he gets away with it

with his history of real sexual assault. this guy is just being joe. you don't like it it's creepy. i get it. some people do things to me that are too close and i don't like it. but that's life. instead of writing a blog a year and a half later. but just turn around and say excuse me. some things you have to handle yourself. >> you were strong on that. about what biden was in your sense of political correctness. where the line should be. you're okay taking the heat on it. ultimately for joe biden, where do you think it leaves him? do you think that he, this spread in the polls is real and he'll stay there or it's identification. he'll get knocked down and we don't know. america looks like our feet hurt and we want the old comfortable pair of shoes. he is a return to normalcy. i don't think he's a lot of

people's favorite but he's a lot of people's second or third choice and he's good enough and he's going to get his back to the america that we remember where things happen in a normal way. and we weren't full of anxiety. like what did the mental patient do now? that's what i think people want to get back to. >> if barrack obama was senator and running in this field do you think he would rise to the top and beat our current president? >> yeah. >> you do? >> yeah. great politician. >> he would be able to deal with trump and his tactics? >> absolutely. yes. among his other fine qualities he was a genius politician and to become the first black president of the united states. >> not easy. >> not an easy task and also the reason that i gave him a million dollars in 2012 is that i thought it important that the first black president had to be

a two-term presidency without scandal. do you know how hard it was with the republicans trying to find some sort of scandal and he not a whiff of scandal. not a personal scandal. nothing family. they tried benghazi, fast and furious, and that's such an important thing in our future -- history. because you don't know what americans would have judged in the future. >> without him as president you wouldn't have had the kind of people come out for this president. >> it was a reaction. >> so now you have what will the pendulum swing be this time. the democrats are trying to decide about what you're calling comfort shoes and the normalcy and being aggressively progressive. let's play bernie sanders. he's been the most outspoken on this. >> there's some well intention democrats and candidates that

believe that the best way forward is a middle ground strategy that antagonizes no one, that stands up to nobody in my view it's not just failed public policy but a failed political strategy that i feel could end up with the re-election of donald trump. >> is he right? >> that's a great question. i don't know. i can't lie to you. that's what we're trying to figure out. that's what the election season is all about. i'm glad that we have the time. we have debates coming up and we are going to see what people's reaction to this is. but this is going to be the dirtiest campaign ever. look ahead. what are they going to attack? swift boat whoever the candidate is. >> police the election and what

we cover and what we don't. >> the democrats? >> the media. >> it's one in the same. >> i don't have a lot of faith because, you know, we don't live in the era of news division as loss leaders. the news division didn't have to make a profit and then that changed and then you have to report to the board like everybody else and show your earnings and they're going to be looking for eye balls and it's getting people to click and getting people to watch. look at how much they overcovered hillary's e-mails. in 2016. and what effect that had on the election. there's a lot of reasons why the democrats lost and many of them said hillary was a terrible candidate. >> she didn't help the situation with the e-mails in how she reacted. >> absolutely, right. and she committed obstruction of justice and in much worse fashion but smashing up your phones --

>> they had a story about it. but it was bad optics. >> they overcovered it. they beat it to death. even bernie sanders said in one of the earlier debates, enough about hillary's e-mails. i don't know but i don't trust the media. if that's the question, that's my answer. >> i don't take it personally. >> not you personally. >> you i make a big exception for. >> i get it a lot. also it's hard in this environment right now. when people want confirmation and echo. cuomo i want to like you, they say i like you but stop going after the democrats. maybe they're not giving money to the people on the border but you have to stay focused. >> welcome to my world because i'm one of the few people out there also that has no team. even though i think i have a team. i certainly caucus with the democrats and as long as donald trump is president i am down the line democrat. >> but you go after them. >> yes. exactly. because they need tough love and i'm not going to stop.

they have things they have to answer for. but they don't help themselves a lot and a lot of this far left political correctness is a cancer or progressivism. when you talk to trump supporters they're not blind to his flaws but they always say he's not politically correct. i don't think you can overestimate how much people have been choking on political correctness and hate it. there were two studies about this recently. new york times front page story. and in the atlantic a year ago. the vast majority of liberals in this country hate it. they think it's gone way too far. no one likes to be living on egg shells. >> we're not done with bill maher. is impeachment a must or a must not? for democrats and this president. he has an answer. and his biggest fear about what he thinks might happen after this election upcoming.

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agents smeared in his face by those two women both out of jail by the way. the new reporting comes from the wall street journal and a book by the washington post. cnn hasn't verified it but one guy that knows this world so well is phil and there he is. thank you for joining me on short notice. >> sure. >> what is the chance that someone as high profile as this might be someone working with the american government? >> well, i think the chance is decent but let's make sure that we understand what we're talking about, chris. you're making it like the person is a spy. >> yes. >> and the person has never spoken with u.s. government. that's not the way this business works. let me give you other alternatives. i witnessed a lot of instances where somebody was talking to the u.s. government because they thought, for example, and i don't know if this is the case but for example in this instance that they could improve relations between north korea and the united states or they were working with another government. a government in southeast asia for example and they occasionally met with u.s.

officials. i don't know whether he met with u.s. officials or not but there is a big distance between somebody who was favorable to his former half brother or to his half brother or somebody who was a spy. there's a lot of area in between there. >> i'm with you. but we have to cross off the list of possibles that it was just about improving relations. he was on the outs, right and increasingly so. >> no. >> yeah. he was worried about plots on his life all the time and they would be from his younger brother, the one now in control. i don't know if he was the place to go to try to figure out how to be better with north korea. >> but time-out chris. you have to understand different people's motivations. people are motivated by money. i witnessed people who are motivated by trying to ensure that their children got health care. so they work with the cia.

in the mind of somebody who wants to contact the u.s. government. it could be somebody who says in my world as someone on the outside with the government. i believe they're reaching out to the u.s. government is a good idea. don't assume that you know what he thought. >> i'm with you. she uses the word informant. now does that cross off the let's work to improve relations? >> no, it doesn't because i don't assume that a journalist knows the nature of a relationship between the cia and the fbi. this is too much inside baseball but it happens to people like me. we did not use the word informant in the cia. we use that word in the fbi so i know that's behind the curtain but as soon as i see that word with somebody referring to the cia i'm saying they don't understand the terminology that we use. there's a whole range of reasons people cooperate with the government. i want to see detail.

>> that was a great nugget. what does the cia use as their term? >> source. >> thank you for that. the idea that this woman came up and threw poison in his face, does that look like a hit because he's working with the enemy or is that just as likely to have had to do with all the shady business dealings that he had with all of these gambling sites and stuff like that? because it's a pretty raunchy way to go. >> that's a good question. >> i can't say that i understand what the adversary thinks. number one, shady business deals. number two, really simple, paranoia. i don't know what this guy who was once affiliated with the government is doing but i suspect so i'm going to kill him and number three, if there were cooperation between the u.s. government and this individual does the north korean government

have something that indicates that they know how we're talking to him. i'd be worried about that but i don't know if this guy was speaking to the u.s. government at any time. we just have one press report. >> it's going to get thicker the reporting on that. cia had no comment. urs intel sources were talking like he was in the mix. so we'll see. you guys were cagey. appreciate the insight. we'll come back when we know more. >> the president says he made a secret side deal with mexico. they want to avert the tariffs. mexico says no such agreement exists. what's up with that? we have the perfect guest here to help sort it out but more importantly the acting dhs head is here to tell you what is happening on the border and why he's not getting the help these kids need. next. feel the clarity of non-drowsy claritin

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the president acting dhs secretary going to congress tomorrow.

the message is simple. begging both sides to do something to help take care of the flou and the kids on the southern border. take a look at the reality. we get this video from them. groups of more than a thousand migrants at a time. you see them coming across. they're not making a run for the border and they're expecting to be detained. this is a sight you see often. adults carrying kids on their backs. are those their kids? are they somebody else's kids? whatever. they're kids coming across that way and when they get here, not an easy trip, right? medical treatment. you know, different types of maladies. a safe place to sleep and often the resources are exhausted. the head of dhs is here tonight to make the case. kevin mac lean. and welcome back to primetime, good to have you. what is the reality that americans need to know. >> good to be with you, chris. the reality is there's a crisis

on our border. 144,000 crossings last month. one day with 5,800 and then large groups like the group of 1,000. that group was made up entirely of people from central america, guatemala, honduras and el salvador and 60 unaccompanied children and a fua adults. that highlights the crisis there. >> so you're getting it both ways. because from the right, we'll get to the lawmakers in a second. from the political perception. from the right while they're all gang members and druggers and killers, i don't care about what's happening there. if you can't take care of them good, that's on them for coming. how do you deal with that? >> that's the border security aspect of the problem. it's not just families and kids. we also have 35% of those crossing trying to evade capture. hidden with that group are single adults that might have a criminal record either here in the u.s. or in their home countries. 17,000 last year. more this year.

808 known gang members. and more importantly we have drug smugglers using them as a diversional tactic and it's a complex problem and we absolutely do need ax from congress to help us address it. >> then you have the other side that says now that you're in charge, you have to own some of the politics, he mislead us about what i call on this show the brown menace. that these are mostly kids and the people bringing them and we knew that it was going to be like that and he didn't prepare us for that and the fence was never going to be a fix for that so this is what he gets. now he's got to pay the price himself? how do you deal with that? >> i don't think that's a fair criticism. we absolutely have drugs coming across. we have gang members. we have security risks to our communities that are coming in but yeah, we have a current crisis with families and children. >> they are the majority. >> they are the majority of who is coming across. >> that was the deception. you don't own that. you always said fences are one tool in a big box.

and you were always worried abtd what's happening now. you have been to congress before. so you have been to congress before and talked to left and right privately and publicly. what do they tell you about giving you and hhs the help and money that you need? >> so unprecedented numbers mean unprecedented measure on the system. the department charged with caring for children that come across unaccompanied. their resources have been overwhelmed. we asked for $4.5 billion in emergency funding. 40 days. 3.3 billion of that goes directly for caring for children appropriately. those kids back up in border patrol stations which i testified twice to the committee i'm going to see tomorrow it's an inappropriate setting for families and children. >> what can happen? people will say it's just numbers. i get that he wants his number. money. they're trying to scare us with the panic. they'll handle it. they have places. this is what they do just to get more. what do you say? >> i say these facilities are

overcrowded. that no american should be comfortable with children in a police station for days on end. that's not an appropriate setting for kids. hhs has the right kind of facilities and care and they need the funding to provide it. about a billion of the funding 25% is for dhs to manage this crisis for transportation and for temporary facilities that we can put people in a better setting. for medical care. these are key elements that we just need to do the job given the flows that we're facing and it's frankly why the president took decisive action last week to generate and galvanize the conversation with mexico to get to a new partnership. >> generate and galvanize. now the reporting comes out that the tariffs brought him to the table and then the mexicans said we agree to all of this already. we don't know why he needed this brinksmanship and then the president says oh but there is something yet to come. do you know of something yet to come? you don't have to tell me what it is although that would be nice. is there something yet to come or are they right? >> let's see if we can untangle this.

i have been working with the government in mexico for 18 years. >> and you went to try to figure out how to help them too. it's important that the american people know that. what's the deal with mexico? >> for the last 18 years this is the most significant set of commitments operational and policy that we ever had from a government of mexico. let me be clear on that. they committed 6,000 national guard to secure their southern border. they made a policy statement that it's a priority to gain operational control of their border for the first time. that's a big deal. that's a game changer for us. >> were they talking to you about that before this or after it? >> so they have been talking to dhs -- we have been asking them for additional border security efforts on their border for years and they provided that. under the prior administration they did more than ever in terms of repatriation of those crossing but in this administration they committed about 300 additional immigration folks. a few hundred additional officers to support them. 6,000 is a tenfold increase.

a complete change in their approach. >> did they say they were going to do that before the tariffs? >> no, we had not heard anything like a number of 6,000. we heard that they had increased security and the numbers were in the hundreds. we asked for transportation checks we have 100,000 people flowing to our border a month. on main arteries through the center of mexico. they committed to addressing that flow by setting up check points with their security forces. they also agreed to working with us to address the places where you see that large group type of crossing. 1,000 people in one group. we see 2, 3, 400 a day all the time now. >> hopefully that makes a difference. >> i think it will. >> hopefully you'll be able to send people to mexico to wait. come from mexico while you're processing their case. now last question, so this is what i hear. on the right, everybody talks about your situation the same way. bad, bad, it's a crisis but there's always a but. on the right it's but it's all about the democrats and we asked for the money but they were one

and done with the ask, secretary as you know. the right is not chasing this the way the president chased the fence, the way they chased the tariffs. they're not chasing it the same way. on the left they say, kevin can get the check. just give us guarantees that the places that you put the kids will be safe and you won't try to undermine the law and rush them through the system so you can deport them. give us the guarantees. that's why they're not getting the money. your response. >> my response is that hhs has those guarantees. they work to get state licensing for all of their permanent facilities. that's a temporary process and i know that they'll take good care of those kids and we'll continue to advocate for that with congress. we need them out of border patrol stations and in a better and safer setting at the same time we work for mexico and stop the flow in the first place. >> i don't want to get into it because it's too drastic but if you get nothing, this month, next month are the biggest flow months for the summer's hiring season.

will you be surprised if there are tragedies if nothing changes? >> i've had to say that talking about the challenges that we're facing. the conditions in our custody. i have much worry about a tragedy. we have hundreds of cases of h-1, n-1 flu that we're trying to manage. get appropriate medical care and get people to hospitals when they need it but really we need a reduction in the flow and we also need ability to move people to safe settings to hhs to move them out of border patrol stations to ice. we're also going to talk tomorrow about legislative solution that would address this crisis and would have prevenlted -- prevented it. if we had been able to work with congress 18 months ago. >> there's lots of rules to be discussed but if you want to get money for this right now, you'll have to keep it simple because as soon as they attach something to it it's a dead letter there in our state of play right now.

secretary. >> good luck to you. we'll be watching and we will keep reporting on this. >> thanks. appreciate the time. >> that's the acting dhs secretary. kevin mcaleenan. he couldn't have been more clear with you. he is afraid of tragedies if they don't give him the resources to change the status quo. remember that. >> it was supposed to be a great symbol of our friendship with france. like a little version of the statue of liberty. remember the friendship tree planted at the white house? well apparently it has taken leave. d. lemon on the mystery. next.

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i want to take you back to april 2018. do you remember this? president trump and french president macron planting a french oak tree together at the white house. it was a symbolic gift on the strength of their bond and bromance but what seemed like a friendship has frayed. in recent months. fate is not without a sense of irony and the friendship tree apparently died while in quarentine. a look at the south lawn shows this, nothing. d. lemon, appropriate metaphor

d. lemon, appropriate metaphor for the times? what do you have on the show? >> do you know what ric wilson says? he has a book and it's called everything that trump touches dies. i don't know what happened to the tree but it's a metaphor of what happened with their bromance and in the country and the world right now isn't it? don't you think? >> well, i hope not because i believe hope springs eternal. it looks pretty pair right now. >> the eternal optimist you are always. when people have friendships and they have a break up that they can always get back together because there was a reason for it in the first place. so let's hope that happens. >> it's not like we don't need france and we don't have enough to work with them on. what have you got tonight? >> i have someone that can talk about big papi and that's janel hill and what her concern is is that she believes democrats are

giving -- i'm paraphrasing, giving the farm away, giving everything away for the sense of electability. the sense of electability. they don't care who it is. they want someone who can beat trump. she thinks they're giving up important things for that. >> talk with you in a second. big papi, he's talking about it tonight, here's the concern. this wasn't random. we thought it was a fight in a club. it was nothing like that. it was a planned hit, it seems. there is news on how it happened, who did it, his condition. and we're getting a picture. that's why we're going to bring in a former fbi insider, knows cases exactly like this, the best context next. ♪

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the good news is david big papi ortiz is stable enough to get back to boston. shot in the dominican republic sunday in the back, through and through wound, but it supposedly hit organs. he's got some time to go but he's alive and that's good. police have detained several

suspects, including one who people nearby beat them up after the shooting and then handed them over to the police. investigators are now poring over this surveillance video. you're seeing in the highlighted circle, that's big papi, shot in the back, close range, ambush style, all right, he goes down. lots of questions swirling around the case. let's hit on three big point right now. james gagliano, obviously so much experience in the fbi doing these kinds of investigations. first the obvious, the way it came it wasn't drama in the club, it was a planned hit, it seems. >> right. there are a lot of theories going around. chris, ballplayers in the dominican republic are hero status. they're treated -- he's a hero here, major league baseball status. they go back to the neighborhoods they came from. we understand the dominican

republic is a developing country but a poor country, the average salary is $5 to $10 a week. robberies are a big deal. i've heard theories maybe it was a case of mistaken identity. here's something for you, the average dominican man is 5'4". david ortiz is 6'3". you watch the video and dissect the video, it did not look like a random robbery. if he was targeted for his chain or billfold or cash in his pants they would have done it on the way in or out. not in a crowded cafe. >> the suspects. >> two of them. police have one in custody right now. they also have the motorcycle the two men arrived on. they tried to get out of there. this happens often in latin american countries. robberies and assassination attempts. if this wasn't an assassination attempt, come in or out. police have the motorcycle, they have the cctv, the video surveillance from inside. now, is santa domingo blanketed

with surveillance cameras like manhattan, probably not. >> they're going to find out the guy s who they work for. >> we're going to talk to people with intimate knowledge. david ortiz has said through a spokesperson he did not know these two people and then the cell phones, the license plate to the motorcycle. they're going to combine what we know talking to people and forensically. >> tell me if i'm wrong on this analysis. but comes up from behind. >> yeah. >> gets the jump on big papi. shoots him in the back. >> yeah. >> not in the head.

>> yes. >> if you're an assassin, you're not going to shoot me in the back. thank god they didn't, thank god. >> absolutely. it's almost point-blank range. this looked like somebody that was hired to do this. or sometimes in countries like this, forced to do this to work off a debt or something like that. or somebody would threaten your family and say if you don't do this. this was not a committed gunman. one shot in the back, obviously it was a survivable wound and we know he was literally within a foot or two from big papi at that time. a committed assassin would have shot him in the head. >> thank god that didn't happen. >> absolutely. >> and that could go to the level of sophistication. couldn't make a getaway, the guy fell on the way out. they didn't plan the exit. take you in the direction of the sophistication of this person. you have those steps of looking at it. but it's got to be -- all we care about is why at the end of the day. it's got to be either a beef, right, he did something, someone didn't like it, preexisting, new, misperceived, or what, what are the other possibilities? >> businessmen. there's a big disparity between rich and poor in the dominican republic, ultra rich at the top and a big segment of poor people.

anybody walking around with large sums of money anybody, the ballplayers when they go back like to go back to their neighborhoods. papi is outside talking to people. if they were looking to rob him they would have done it on his way to his car. or coming into his house. the police need to find out, was this a setup, somebody's inside the club, he's sitting here, back to the entrance, come in off the street. police are track down and find more accomplices. >> the university gets tight in terms of why somebody would do something this drastic. we need more information. >> it was brazen. >> right. used a handgun, they believe, also. >> yes. >> jimmy, thank you very much. as we learn more, come back to you. >> thanks for having me. we end on news tonight. thank you for watching. "cnn tonight" with d. lemon starts right now. >> right on it. what is the motive? what is the motive? that's the question. why would someone do that? and big papi is loved there.

>> right.