together on to do anything possible to help. more important thing than partisanship and anger which dominates our national discourse. thank you for joining us. "ac 360" with anderson starts right now. >> good evening, we begin with breaking news and a preview of more to come. after trading jabs, joe biden is in iowa, the president is in west west des moines as a gop fundraising dinner, talking about his host, vice president biden just about 160 miles down interstate-80 in daffyen part after each man slamming each other, neither waiting to get to iowa biden this morning releasing an advanced copy of his davenport remarks describing the president as an existential threat to democracy. the president weighing in a short time later on the south lawn. >> well, i heard biden, who is a loser, look, joe never got more

than 1% except obama took him off the trash heap. now it looks like he's failing. now i have to tell you, he's a different guy. he looks different than he used to. he acts different than he used to. he's even slower than he used to be. so i don't know i think he's the weakest mentally. i like running are against people mentally. i think joe is the weakest up here. >> the president followed by mr. biden down if iowa. >> the idea that i believe and i didn't believe if you asked me this five years ago, i would have told you, you're crazy. i think there is a genuine threat to american democracy. you know, think about this. no president of the united states has ever, ever, since the end of world war ii, we built that atlantic alliance in nato. never threatened to leave nato. never gone after our allies, embracing dictators and thugs from putin to kim jong-un,

calling them my friends, sending love while he's sticking, poking his finger in the eye of our allies. what's going on here? this is really dangerous stuff. he's a threat in my view. a threat to our core values and, folks, the fact of the matter is that four years of trump will be viewed as an aberration in american history. eight years, eight years will fundamentally change who we are as a nation and how we are viewed around the world. >> again, we are monitoring both live events, as a backdrop, a quinnipiac university showing a 13-point biden lead over the president with with senator sanders and claerz kamela harris ahead respectively. joining us two veterans, nationwide, presidential candidate, former national committee howard dean, also a six-term governor of vermont and david axelrod, senior adviser to president obama and currently

host of the "axe files" here on cnn. david, this virtual head-to-head battle in iowa, what do you make of it? they are in the same time taking each other on in such a direct way. >> i think for joe biden, this is an ideal situation. he should send the president a gift for this because the whole thieves of his campaign is he's the old warrior coming back to rid the scourge that this is all about him and trump. trump is affirming that with everything that he does by going after him in such a personal way in his tweets, in his comments. this is biden's strategy for getting nominated. the democratic party, most democrats are desperate to get rid of donald trump by a 2-1 margin, they say that is more important than ideological kinship and the theory of the biden campaign is to run against trump from the beginning. that's what he's done from his

announcement forward from the president. he is looking at these polls like the one you just showed, he is concerned. he was trailing not just biden but several other democrats but he sees biden as the front runner right now. he is not waiting to cut him down to size. >> can you imagine president bush taking on the front runners in the 2003, the stage we're at in this race? >> no, but trump you know does things his own way. you know trump is an unattractive person. i read the whole speech that joe gave. i thought it was very good but that speech is not going to get us to the victory line. he has to say what he is going to do, not just trump is an idiot. not everybody hears donald trump, is reminded why they don't like donald trump. joe doesn't have to do that. he is going to say what he is going to do, what are we going to do about healthcare, for the economy for all those people who trump didn't give a tax cut to,

which was the vast majority of the american people. so this is sort of phase i. trump is not going to rise above this. he can't rise above anything. joe biden was the vice president of the united states, he can. when we get into this, when he is the nominee, we want to see him acting presidential, which president trump is not. >> they seeming to obsessed which how much the other is obsessed with them. might be obsessed with voter's needs, to the governor's point, talking about what are you for, what your policies are and doing it in a way, frankly, you juxtopposed the way president trump speaks, the way vice president biden speaks, it seems to be whether it's a different energy level, it is a very stark

juxtaposition. >> i think what howard said, i don't think this is adequate for biden. the fact is he had a bad week last week. he mishandled the question of the hyde amendment and did a flip-flop-flip. the iowa poll came out, howard is familiar with the iowa poll. what it showed is biden had lost a third of his support since december, still the front runner eight points behind sanders, and right behind him, elizabeth warren, pete buttigieg. the enthusiasm level was not as high as that of the others. so he's got his work cut out for him. i quite agree with howard, i don't think it's nearly enough to say that he wants to defeat donald trump. i'm not sure it's enough that polls show right now he may have the best chance to do it. he will have to show more. this was only his second visit to iowa since may. you know, the process, this is a

process. it's not a national primary. it begins in iowa. joe biden as the front runner is obligated to win that primary. if he comes in second or third, the whole thing could unravel. so he's got a lot of work to do. >> governor dean to be honest as he has run before, he has never done well in presidential races, so a lot of people, a lost democrats are sort of looking at him because his name recognition is high. his poll numbers show him to be in the lead. but the history of him running is not a good one. >> well, you will hear me say this many times as we now and in november of 2020, the poll number numbers that you showed are really not helpful. my guess is international poll numbers, this is 50 separate races, starting with four races, iowa, new hampshire, nevada and south carolina. those are the poll numbers we have to have. it could be all california and

new york. >> that doesn't do good. we will win those states no matter what. there is a lot more information we need to know before we could start making judgments and i think also one of the candidates is going to catch fire. i don't know who it's going to be. i think they will. >> governor, i want to play something of what the president said about biden today on the white house lawn. >> he's a different guy. he looks different than he used to. he acts different than he used to. he's even slower than he used to be. so i don't know. when he mentions my name that many times i guess i should be complimented. i love running against people weak mentally. the others have much more energy. look, but i don't bring them up. >> it's so interesting, governor, i also want to talk to david about this.

the way the president you know identifies what he perceives to be weaknesses in his opponents and throws it out time after time after time and sleepy joe biden, low energy with hints of age, does that i mean it's clearly a strategy the president has employed for all his challengers. well. >> we had before. the problem is people know donald trump right now and the country is unbelievable polarized. i don't doubt he moves much votes. he's got a hard core minority, about 31%. he said i could shoot somebody on fifth avenue. they may still be with me. >> that may be true. trump is not presidential. people care about that one of the great points biden made in his speech was do you want your

children to belative like president trump, most americans would say absolutely not. >> does that work planting the idea of low energy? >> it is a tactic, he has a feral genius for painting his parents in a caricature. the thing that i think is important for biden is to run an energetic campaign that dispels any of these caricatures. he hasn't had a heavy campaign caricature. i think he will have to come forward with ideas and he will have to campaign energetically, one of the things is people expect to see you, they want to interact with you. you have to be there you can't do drop buys and use them to attack the president. you got to do much more than

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are both in town today. or at least in, in the state today. it wasn't planned that way, but i hope trump's presence, ah, here is maybe a clarifying moment for us all. american farmers have been crush by his tariff war. we try and no one knows that better than the folks of iowa. you know, he thinks that being tough, he's being tough. well, it's easy to be tough when someone else is feeling the pain and taking a hit. >> senator coons of delaware joins us now. what about that. is vice president biden making a mistake by focusing so much on the president david axelrod was making the point, howard dean as well, about needing to be for something and talking about what

you actually want to do? he certainly did talk a lot about the president today. >> well, anderson, joe biden has laid out already some strong and concrete and positive policy plans for how he would tackle climate change, how he would address education, today in davenport,davenport. what he is doing is drawing a strong contrast how he will lead as president and donald trump has been misleading on his terror on tack, failure to lead unemployment. so i do think it's important for former vice president biden to draw a strong contrast with donald trump. that's what most democratic voters want is to understand clearly what joe biden would be for, which he has been laying out in detail the last two weeks and how he would beat donald trump in the general election campaign. which is exactly what he is speaking to tonight. >> one thing david axelrod also

said vice president biden has run so far, you know, he hasn't been out on the campaign as aggressively as no doubt he probably will be. does that play into what president trump is doing is road test nicknames or tax that might work on biden? he seems to be focusing on the idea that he's not as fast as he once was, that he slowed down, that he's low energy, which, of course, is what he said about jeb bush. >> well, you know, look, i think it's ridiculous if we play into donald trump's hands by repeating the 8th grade bully nicknames he wants to throw around against his most feared opponents. the reason joe biden wasn't in iowa on friday, it was his daughter's birthday and granddaughter's high school graduation. i think the american people know joe biden. they know his heart and his values. and they respect the fact that

rather than being at an important campaign event if iowa, he was at a more important family event in delaware. i would frankly expect the average voter to question his priorities if he had missed his daughter's high school graduation at an event where he would speak five minutes. i think it's important he has been campaigning vigorously. he has been to each of the critical early primary states already. he has been doing events all over the countries respect his campaign launched in philadelphia, i thought laid out a positive and clear path forward for his candidacy. i couldn't disagree more with both the substance and the strategy of donald trump of rolling out all these middle school nicknames against his most feared opponent joe binden. >> finally i want to play something the vice president said today in iowa to his crowd. list listen. >> i promise you, if i'm elected

president, you will see the single post-important thing in america, we will cure cancer. >> obviously, cancer is very personal for the vice president. his son bo died in 2015. the vice president spearheaded the so-called cancer moonshot program for the obama administration promising to cure cancer, though, that's, it's something that if president trump said that, i think a lot of people, a lot of democrats would you nknow maybe is it appropriate for vice president biden to make that promise? >> one of the things he did is set optimistic goals, jack kennedy said we will go to the moon, not because it's easy, it's hard. by lifting our sights to the ambitious goal of landing on the moon and mobilizing our nation in that direction. i think he played a central role in getting it a accomplished. not while president kennedy was alive but within five years. so i think you know it's

important to remember president obama entrusted joe biden with the cancer poon shot. i can think of no more ambitious and uplifting goal for him to layout for us than to make a real dent in this tragic disease that has taken so many loved ones from so many american families, including joe's own beloved son bo. >> senator coons, i appreciate your time. >> thank you, ander zorn. as we watch both events, it is noted the president has been 20 minutes into his speech. he hasn't mentioned joe biden. he mentioned him earlier. perspective from three top company watchers. david gergen, advisers to republican and democratic presidents over the years and obama white house director and mike shields, national committee chief of staff. david on the cancer, again, if president trump said his admin -- he promised if you elect him

next term his administration is going to cure cancer, he would get attacked. was it you know nobody can promise that. >> all right, well, i agree with that i think going to the moon is quite different tan trying to cure cancer. you know, we have been working for a year, decades and finding a cure for cancer, we made good progress. the final answer is elusive. it's hard to believe we will do it in four years. he's entitled to say that. i don't think that's his problem, though, anderson, the biden people must be happy since he has this polarize against donald trump. there is concern about his candidacy, david axelrod said he had a bad week last week. he came out to give this major address today. it is a very, very long address. i think senator coons, who is a good surrogate would admit that. what was lacking was something

fresh. it's hard to tell what the lead was coming out of a long speech like that. when that's the case, you know, what you sa i to people, the rhetoric sort of becomes many ushy. he needs to be clear cut and to have a sense of freshness, not have a sense of still thinking in terms of the 1990s. >> jen, you can knock the president for you know the insults, 8th grade insults. it's certainly, rightly and wrongly, to david's point, what joe biden said today, if you read it, it's one thing, but it was, it was very long and hard to sort of you know take some things away. >> i think that's right. anderson, i agree. i think in some ways it was set up in a way that joe biden couldn't align head-to-head with president trump. that's a part of his message that it's inevitable. we have a long way to go.

i thought the climate change and prepared remarks was good. he talked about it in an accessible way and farmers and drought. there were a lot of missed opportunity there. my poll issues like abortion rights, issues like guns, those are issues democratic voters in iowa really care about. he has story to tell there. he can always be forward looking. and there are events that have happened he could have touched on, the de-funding of planned parenthood education by the legislature. he needs to do a little more that's forward looking. agree there needs to be a central theme people can grasp into. >> the split screen, seeing both men speak today. are you pleased with the juxtaposition? >> well, look, i think joe biden is sort of losing the rational for his candidacy. when he gets sucked into a fight

with president trump, he thinks he can go fight him. all he is thinking is fighting trump. what has been proven with joe biden and the three failed presidential campaign and the horrible week last week, when he gets pressure he makes mistakes, i think the president will suck him into it. there are primary people that want to hear about issues, joe biden is i'm the fronts runner, nominate me because, i don't think he's good enough to pull that off. i think he makes a lot of mistakes. he said vice president pence was a decent man. he got cries sized for that. he said that's not what i mean to say. abortion, he immediately changes his position. i think we are seeing the role holes into his campaign. once he is done with biden, he will do the same with him. >> we have all seen the danger of somebody being allegedly a front wonder because they have

name recognition early on and there is there inevitability that people resent, flo one live up to that. >> that's right. ordinarily at this stage you'd say there are so many months outer that useless, but if you see a changing dynamic. there are signs, when biden announced, after his announcement, nationwide, quinnipiac, he had 38%. they said i'm for biden. >> that number nationwide is down to 30. the other candidates are moving up each one is moving up two, three, four points. that makes it, look, iowa could become a very competitive state. we don't know i think what can be working is if he can maintain, 30 or 32 four or five people running against him. he will emerge as a winner. >> governor dean in the last

segment. quinnipiac, it's a national poll. those numbers can be california and what matters is iowa, new hampshire, in the early states. >> that's exactly right. i spent a lot of time in iowa over my career. people expect that you are going to spend time in this state. they will meet candidates once, twice, five times, sit on their couch. so i expect when biden goes and spends more time there, the relatability of biden and the decency comes across but he needs to go spend days and days in the state and work for every vote. i expect he will. he needs to do that soon. >> thank you, appreciate it. still to come, president trump has proof of a secret immigration deal with mexico. it's not that simple, however, more ahead. >

. president trump has sworn he had a special deal with mexico,

despite they said there was no deal. he had a letter when he repeatedly waved at reporters. >> that's the agreement that everybody says they don't have. here's the agreement. it's a very simple agreement. so here's your thing. they say he doesn't -- i just give you my word. inside here, and i would love to do it. but you will freeze action, will you stop it. right here is the agreement. very simple. it's right here. in here is everything you want to talk about. done. done. >> it's like the wonka golden ticket. there is actually writing on the letter. according to multiple reports there is nothing that constitutes proof of a secret deal. max boot joins us now. whatever was or wasn't on the paper, it's so classic president trump to like drum up a dramatic

reveal. >> right. >> whether or not the reveal ever takes place. >> don't fake it out and wave it on international television. that's not what you do, as you say, the writing was actually legible when he held it up and "the washington post" photographer took a picture and it suggests there is no secret deal. there was a non-agreement which the government said if there is not a reduction, we will reduce an agreement to talk some more in 45 days. >> which is how this plays out, all the things the president said resulted because of his threat. a lot was worked out long ago. >> it's a pattern where he is arsonnist and fire fighter. he claims crises and claims he resolved them. he claimed to have a vertical war with north korea. there wasn't going to be the

war. the odds had increased because it was fiery rhetoric. now he claims there would be all these tariffs with mexico, lo and behold, there is a great deal that will end illegal immigration. except it won't end illegal immigration. most was renegotiated months before. so it's a complete non-deal. >> sort of foreign governments look at this if you are making a deal, it seems an odd way to go about diplomacy. >> the whole thing shows why no foreign government cannot take him seriously as a negotiating pa partner. remember. there was an agreement to replace nafta. he ignored the terms by

threatening the massive tariffs with mexico. the mexicans said they didn't. he said they did. this is a pattern he will create these crises and pretend to resolve them. i think what foreign governments are saying this guy the a bluffer. he is a very bad poker player. he is so eager for a victory tweet he will issue a victory tweet even tow there is none. >> he also talked about kim jong-un, his appreciation for a murderous dictator is extraordinary. he talks about a beautiful letter, not letting the cia, not have anybody spy on him. it's kind of remarkable. >> trump lives in this bizarreo world where he treats our friends as if they are enemies and treats our enemies as if they were friends. he is blustering against mexico, which is one of our allies and trade partners. he is saying he has a beautiful

relationship with kim jong-un. he doesn't have anything bad to say about the fact that his buddy in pyongyang, which whom he is in love assassinated his brother using weapons of mass destruction at an international airport. he has not one negative thing to say about that. >> two women putting chemical weapons in the guy's face. >> instead, he is promising kim jong-un he is not going to authorize essentially the cia to recruit assets who could spy on the leader of north korea. which is as crazy as you can imagine. if they had recruited his brother, that would have been a huge victory for the united states. >> appreciate it. jon stewart ripping congress over benefits for first responders, take a listen. >> it cost these men their most valuable commodity. time.

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and must be reauthorized. stewart pleaded for this to be made a top priority. >> mind me a filled room of 9/11 first responders and in front of me, a nearly empty congress. sick and dying they brought themselves down here to speak and no one, shameful. it's an embarrassment to the country and it is a stain on this institution and you should be ashamed for yourselves for those that aren't here, but you won't be because accountability doesn't appear to be something that occurs in this chamber. the official fdny we responsibility time to 9/11 was five seconds. five seconds that's how long it

took for fdny, for nypd. for port authority. for ems to respond to an urgent feed from the public, five seconds. hundreds die in an instant. thousands more poured in to continue to fight for their brothers and sisters. the breathing problems started almost immediately. they were told they weren't sick, they were crazy. then as the illnesses got worse and things payment more apparent. okay, are you sick. it's not from the pile then when the science became irrefusable. okay, it's the pile.

but this is a new york issue. i don't know if we have the money and i'm sorry if i sound angry and undiplomatic, but i'm angry and you should be too and they're all angry as well. your indifference costs these men and women their most valuable commodity, time! it's one ting they're running out of. and the idea you can only give them five more years in the cvf because you are not quite sure what's going to happen five years from now. i can tell you, i'm pretty sure what will happen five years from now. more of these men and women will get sick and they are going to die congresswoman carol maloney was at the witness stable i

table, representative maloney, are you a supporter of this bill. are you wearing a fireman's jack right there. can you explain why this funding is even an issue? shouldn't funding for the healthcare of first responders be a non-issue? >> it should be a non-issue. and jon stewart has every right to be angry, so am i, but i'm hopeful we will be reporting the bill out of the committee tomorrow. we have over 311 co-sponsors for the bill, which is a large, large number for the house and over 81 republicans. it's strongly bipartisan. i hope we will pass it on the congress when we celebrate the values of this country. which the first responders are an example. so i'm hopeful. >> do you hear that aurth. this is a fork problem. why are we focusing on this?

part of why it's running out of money is medical claims are on the rise, more people are needing treatment. this is our long-term medical needs. >> particularly cancers. they have grown substantially. a third of the claims now are cancer and it's a very, very serious problem. it's difficult to pass anything in the house of representatives. it is hard to understand when we can give trillions of dollars in tax breaks and subsidies for our cops an other things, all of which is important. but we should be we should have the money for our first responders. they were there for us. we need to be there for them and we have a moral responsibility not only did they show up and be a part of one of the greatest rescue efforts in history, but they were lied to about the

health conditions at 9/11. thairm they were told to go back to work. it was safe to work there. when it wasn't. they have a double moral responsibility to them. >> are claimants poo's payments already a concern or down the road? >> the payments are being cut now. we made the healthcare program personal nant back in 2015 -- permanent back if 2015. we extended the victim's compensation fund for five years. that's the best we can do. we are coming back to reauthorize it. the fund is running out of money. so the special master had to cut allocations to by 50 to 70%, depending on when you when into the program. our bill would restore and make each family whole and provide funding for the families who desperately need it, who have lost their fathers, who have been sick. i cannot work. many of them are dying. many of them are close friends of jon stewart's.

he's been working on this for many years. for him to see them declining is extremely upsetting to them and many others. they should have their compensation. we will never give up until they have it. >> councilman maloney, appreciate your time, thank you very much. >> thank you. coming up next. more legal pressure on the house by the white house. want to brain better? say hello to neuriva. so nice to meet you june, jay, ji, jj kay, raj, and... ray! good job, brain! neuriva is a new brain supplement that combines the best of science and nature, with clinically- proven ingredients that fuel five indicators of brain performance: focus, accuracy, memory, learning, and concentration. neuriva - it's time to brain better. the belongingslace to we hold on to.rites. ♪

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this afternoon the house voted along party lines to approve a resolution paving the way for the judiciary committee to go to court to enforce an action. namely the subpoena for don mcgahn's testimony. it also authorized the committee to take it to court but they won't do that for now after an agreement was reached for the justice department on monday. chris cuomo joins me for more on this and what he has been covering since the top of the

hour. >> drip, drip, drip. this is the question for the democrats. what is your duty and how do you do it in the most expeditious and efficacious way. the upside is they're at their maximum powers. they'll get things through the court. this is going to take a long time. are they okay with that? they need to decide and tell their constituents and move forward. what is going to happen and what he is afraid is going to happen. we have kim porter on, one of the charging young lions of the democratic party. katie porter obviously. what she thinks she will do going forward.

bill maher is here. >> okay. thanks very much. >> are you the old guard or new guard? >> i am definitely old guard. i am the oldest person on my show. >> it's depressing when you're no longer the young person on the room. we used to be the young person at abc. >> you have looked like this since i met you. >> i looked ancient even when i was young. nobody said to me you were prematurely grey. now it's just yeah, your old. >> i look at video of us 9/11. coverage then was brilliant. the stories that you brought at that time. i look like my son. i look nothing like i look today. totally changed. you look the same accept for the glasses which we all know you don't need. >> i wish. if only. if only i could figure out how to put contact lenses in my eyes which i can't. i've had many lessons. just a story that blew me away. so many kids in need in this country. kids homeless and in foster care and kids struggling with life

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8. he's been in dialysis ever since 12 hours a day and on top of that he was in foster care but it was too much for a foster family to deal with so he's going to have to live in a hospital so he can get dialysis but because he was considered homeless he was taken off of the kidney transplant list. well thanks to finn, damien has a home and is back on the list for a kidney transplant and i spoke to them earlier and i asked damien what he wants to eat once he can get off the transplant diet and what he wants to eat when he receives a transplant. >> i understand that once you get the transplant that you can actually eat a bigger variety of food because you have been on a restricted diet. what are you looking forward to eating? >> i'm a big fan of like fast food. so like i like 7-11 nachos because they're greasy and

plasticy and i can't get that anywhere else. >> i love that you're describing plasticy cheese as a good thing. >> it's amazing. as long as it tastes good. >> i'm a mcdonald's person. i like the number one meal. the big mac, the fries, the coke. >> yeah. >> i have not tried the plasticy cheese though i have to check that out. are you a big fan? >> not so much. i'll give him mine after transplant. he can have all of mine. >> finn, did you know you were ready, obviously you're a teacher and worked with middle school kids so you have a love of kids and you deal with kids but i mean, this is incredible commitment. i'm totally boring damien, i feel bad. >> oh, no, i just didn't sleep that well last night. >> it's okay. i'm not offended. don't worry about it. but yeah, did you -- did you know you were ready for this

challenge? >> that's a good question. i spent a long time thinking about that because i was compelled immediately to do whatever i could for this kid but i was also really concerned about making sure that i could follow through with the commitment. there's been a number of kids in damien's life that has attempted to give him some help and weren't able to follow through on that and i didn't want to be another person that let him down. >> contribute to the go fund me page to help them you can do so at the address on your screen. news continues. i want to hand it over to chris for cuomo primetime. >> very clear when i was talking about going back, when i saw how i looked, i looked up pictures of us in 2001 and this is what i found. >> that was me in 1999. >> you look the same. >> i wasn't working. >> i started -- actually cnn called me the day after i ended up going to afghanistan.