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>> that's a good question. i spent a long time thinking about that because i was compelled immediately to do whatever i could for this kid but i was also really concerned about making sure that i could follow through with the commitment. there's been a number of people in damien's life that have attempted to give him some help and weren't able to follow through on that and i didn't want to be another person that let him down. >> contribute to the gofundme page to help them. you can do so at the address on your screen. news continues. i want to hand it over to chris for "cuomo primetime." >> very clear when i was talking about going back, when i saw how i looked, i looked up pictures of us in 2001 and this is what i found. >> that was me in 1999. >> you look the same. >> i wasn't working. >> i started -- actually cnn called me the day after i ended up going to afghanistan. there you go.
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but i saw pictures of you and i mean, you haven't aged that much. >> no, i have. i appreciate it. you look better than i do. it's okay. but i want to make the record clear because obviously you were working. and i stand by my statement. you look just as good or better today. anderson, thank you very much. i am chris cuomo. welcome to "primetime." bill maher is not just funny. he's savvy. especially when it comes to political prognostications and he got a lot of buzz from last night's interview and there will be even more after he breaks down the democratic field and what he fears is to come tonight. then, we have seen the possible future of the race and biden and trump exchanged blows today and it was ugly. which side is better set up for a war of who is worse? and how does a battle to the bottom make any of us better? that will be our great debate. we also have jon stewart. did you see the powerful plea he made today on behalf of 9/11 first responders? he shouldn't have to make it.
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that's our argument. never forget has been forgotten. tonight let's remember who and what matters and let's do it together. let's get after it. now we know that bill maher has been funny and full of provocative insights. that's why "real time" on hbo is one of the highest rated shows in late night television and he held nothing back in our exclusive one-on-one. ultimately for joe biden, where do you think it leaves him? do you think this spread in the polls right now is real and he'll stay there or do you think it's just identification? >> i think he'll get knocked down, yes. it's early. always at this time. he is a return to normalcy. i don't think he's a lot of people's favorite but he's a lot of people's second or third choice and he's good enough. hillary was a terrible candidate. that's absolutely true. >> she didn't help the situation
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with the emails in terms of how she handled it. >> absolutely. >> and she committed obstruction of justice. now trump did i think in much worse fashion. i go back and forth on impeachment because i feel like yeah it's the right thing to do but if they impeach trump, whoever the next democrat is, you know they will impeach him because they don't care about the facts. >> do you think he's winning? >> yes. and i'm sick of winning. he's right. i got sick of his winning. this is going to be, because it is trump, the dirtiest campaign ever. donald trump should have been someone that made the democrats go wow, we have to get serious now. too many people is what i see in the field. that alone looks silly when you have 23 or 24 people and some of them are -- i don't even know why they're running. i think a lot of this far left political correctness is a cancer on progressivism. when you talk to trump supporters, they're not blind to his flaws but one thing they always say is he's not politically correct. i don't think you can overestimate how much people
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have been choking on political correctness and hate it. >> all right. let's hold on this for a moment because political correctness and what it means to the left, this is going to be a fertile issue in this election and bill maher has been all over it for a long time and he's often politically incorrect on purpose. he believes the left has made it a cancer. the question is isn't political correctness supposed to be a cure? let's get after it. where is the line of decency and hyper political correctness? >> i think decency. i was born a democrat. my parents were democrats. we all loved your father. kennedy. >> you had two helpings of guilt in your life. your father was a catholic, the other was jewish. that's a lot of guilt put on you. >> that's in my blood. i was never a big fan of the republicans but for liberals i think it's just, old school liberals, you don't have to worry about it.
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that's why we're democrats because we're people that have compassion within us. i'm not saying that the republicans are without compassion but sometimes they are. they're more greedy and selfish. i'm sorry. >> you have one of the, i think, sharper members of the new class of congress, congressman porter from california and she was having a take on what joe biden was trying to handle with the hyde amendment and he got a lot of people upset with this within his own party. if i didn't watch the show, here's what congressmember porter was saying about biden's handling of the hyde amendment. watch this. >> even when he talked about it, he couldn't quite get the word out. it was like health care, for women, that might involve, sort of -- i was a professor, better late than never for the student that gets it on the last day of class. >> i always counted on that kind of professor. >> she's funny. >> she's funny. she's smart and she is insistent. you always have to be ready when porter is going to come.
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so is she right about biden and how big of a blow? >> i don't know. he was between a rock and a hard place and he's going to be that way for the rest of the campaign. right now when he got in sitting well with the traditional centrist democrats that make up most of the country. >> 80% of the country identifies as center. >> i tour a lot. i see this country. i did my last standup special in tulsa, oklahoma. in that country he is very popular but he also knows to get the nomination he has to satisfy the left part of his base and they are not going to -- he made that decision. he said i'm not going anywhere unless i get right on this abortion issue. these people are firmly pro-choice. they don't want someone who is waffling on that.
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i'm going to get there but is he going to lose the people and those centrist people that have been his fans. probably not too much but we'll see. that's the art of politics is making both wings think you're for them. >> do you think that it evidenced that there wasn't enough thought that went into the early stage of planning? that he -- they had to know people were going to come at the inconsistency between being pro-choice and pro-hyde amendment. they don't go together logically. the '94 crime bill, that this is going to come up again. it came up for hillary and it's certainly going to come for you. what do we say? do you think it reveals that they weren't ready? >> i think what it reveals is that people in this age don't understand that humans evolve just like societies evolve and by the way to all the people that are so harsh on the past, there's things that you're doing right now that are going to look bad in the future. things we're doing right now. we used to smoke on airplanes. we thought it was a great idea to walk inside an enclosed aluminum tube and light up a chesterfield.
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we don't do that anymore. all of these people that are so judgmental, i want to say to them, stop prosecuting people back then that did things that if you were around back then you would have done them too. if you were around in the '80s you would have worn the big shoulder pads because we were all doing that. so yes, joe biden is not perfect. none of us are. all you can expect from a human being is to evolve. he was rotten to anita hill but what is he going to keep apologizing for it until the end of his time? >> does there need to be a new generation that doesn't carry the objections of the current political class? >> or why not just somebody that's learned and moved on? this is the only country that i can think of in history that doesn't seem to get something very fundamental which is that in general people older are wiser. that's the trade-off of life. when you're young you're beautiful and then you're not so beautiful and when you're old your wiser. this is the trade-off.
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now of course there's exceptions. there's dumb old people and smart young people. but in general, yes, i'm okay with someone who has learned and grown and seen a lot and has experienced it and has seen patterns. i like mayor pete but i do think 37 is a little too young. a little bit. >> so let's do this. you're not a soothsayer. but you have been uncannily early on some things that are going to happen in our political dynamic. >> thank you, yeah. >> as somebody that guesses wrong, i respect when people guess right. give me a feel for what you think about, not necessarily predictions but what do you imagine happening going forward? in whatever way is relevant. >> one of those things to take up your point i have been talking about for years now, almost three years, that a lot of people are talking about now is if he loses, trump, he won't go. i've been saying that since before he was elected. if he loses the second time, if he loses the coming election and
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michael cohen said that, nancy pelosi said that, a lot of people now and i think we have to worry about that because a lot of people say well, yes, it can happen here meaning fascism. i think we're already there. when the president of the united states is saying that the news is the enemy of the people -- i have a dictator checklist that i read on my show sometimes. things that no american president has ever done but this president does. appointing your family to key government positions. this is banana republic. >> you think he wouldn't leave. >> that is one of them. i absolutely think he will not leave. >> that would be something. hopefully even the great bill maher is wrong about the president refusing to accept the results of the election if he loses. but what do you think? let me know. maher wanted him gone yesterday but what does he think the democrats should do going forward? does he believe in the impeachment route? his easy but complicated advice
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the table in this country. >> yet he identified with the base that has exactly the issues of being underserved. being disenfranchised and he connected. you think if he loses he doesn't leave. give me another one. >> another? >> what you think may happen going forward. >> i don't know. based on the past, based on the fact that he appoints his children to the key positions and uses his office for personal financial gain. talks about locking people up, lies so frequently, the followers don't know and they don't care. in that atmosphere anything is possible. and if you talk about locking people up and you talk about -- you know, he talked about the enemy of the people. the enemy of the people. i don't want to go to that place where we compare him to these fascists, but that is the phrase they used in the past. that's not me. enemy of the people.
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you create this atmosphere that we have already seen. there's been two instances now, the guy in florida and the coast guard guy a few months ago. >> i'm well aware. >> who have sent out bombs trying to decimate the top leadership of the democratic party. all the people trump goes after. they sent out bombs to the obamas, the clintons, biden, eric holder. and in that atmosphere i don't know what is possible and trump talks about we have the tough people. we have the tough people. okay. again, dictator stuff. i have the people with the guns. and he does. now the military, there's a lot of people in the military that do not like trump for obvious reasons. he sides with countries that aren't us. made fun of john mccain. draft dodger. why any of them are with him i don't know. but the police, oh, he's got the police. the police love him. because he says you can do anything when you're in the police. you can shove their head. don't be so nice. so that's really scary. i have the tough people. that shouldn't be what decides
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things in this country. who has the tough people. >> do you know what, look. you put a lot of thought into this and there are some scary expectations. >> always. >> that people love the law the most if they're in the law business and that the country and its institutions more than any individual. >> that's what is scary about it. when they do polls of people it's frightening. they don't know the branches of government so why would they care if one of them is being aggregated. are we going to have the kind of system in this country where we have a parliament like lots of countries do. like russia has a parliament like we have congress but they're really just a joke and don't matter and we're moving toward that. when congress is subpoenaing people and asking for stuff, the law says you shall give the tax returns. >> do you think they should impeach? >> i do. i think you have to. again, i don't think his base
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can get any -- they say it will rile up his base. his base is riled. i don't think that is going to get any worse and i think you look weak and the democrats' biggest problem is always looking weak. turn it around. wouldn't they do it? they would have done it on the first day. they would have impeached hillary when she was in the ball gown from the inaugural and she hadn't done anything. >> bill maher. >> sorry if i scared you. >> not at all. you gave me a lot to think about. that's what you do best. good luck with the residency in vegas and i know it's going to be a hit. i appreciate you here and you're always welcome. >> thanks, chris. >> bill maher has been there for awhile. there's still a few dates to see him in september and october. you can find it online. i hope he is wrong about the next election being the ugliest we have seen but did you see president trump and former vp joe biden today in iowa? who wins in a fistfight over
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>> the president is a existential threat to america. >> is this our future? it's certainly our present, in terms of starting our great debate. cenk and anna are here. two great people. anna, is this the winning ticket for joe biden? go toe for toe, blow for blow. >> look, i think so and i think the best thing that's happened, one of the very good things that's happened to joe biden since launching this campaign is that trump is obsessed with him. trump keeps insulting him and keeps testing nicknames, none of them quite stick, and so trump made this into a general election campaign with joe biden. he's pretty much ignoring the rest of the field and is laser focused and obsessed with joe biden. that's a great favor he's doing to joe biden. >> let's look at why he might be like that, looking at the numbers with the other
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democrats. 30 to 19, is that lower? yes. but biden had to come down. he's up because of name recognition. the field will have to catch him to a certain degree. but the number against trump is probably what has trump trying to go after him. 53%, 40%. nobody beats him like that in the rest of the field. is is this the way he courts the rest of the primary process? he lets everyone know this is what i'm going to do. it's going to be a battle to the bottom. >> yeah, so i agree that trump is doing biden a huge favor by attacking him. that makes even people like me who are progressive to rally to biden's defense but overall i don't think that he is the better candidate against trump. he's doing the same mistake that hillary clinton did. he's saying trump is a bad guy. for the right wing, that's not a bug, that's a feature.
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you have to attack him for things that worked on him. being in favor of the average american worker which he is not. he's a normal lying sniveling politician and a progressive can make that case because we're for higher wages. we're for getting health care for your families. we're for policy positions that are actually going to help your family in michigan and pennsylvania. and what does biden largely say? he does safe attacks against trump. he's against what trump said in charlottesville. of course. we're all against that but he doesn't attack him on policy positions or where it hurts on how weak he is and i think we need a stronger fighter to bring that message home. we don't want to make that same mistake we did in 2016 and he is very similar to hillary clinton. >> so for the democrats, do you want to go with someone who is about compromise or polarize? and we put together a graphic of rankings according to lifetime. this is bipartisanship. these are the rankings of how much these senators over the years, there's like 250 of them they ranked in terms of working with the other side to get
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things done. so the proposition becomes anna, do you want number 47 or 247? >> look. one of the issues that biden has is that he's run for president before. he's never been a front runner before. this is a new position for him and it means that everybody in the primary is shooting at biden. that is what comes with the territory of being in the position of a front runner. biden is smartly trying not to engage in the primary. trying not to attack his opponents in the primary because i think he learned the lesson from 2016 when there was a lot of bitterness still left after bernie sanders dropped out between that camp and the clinton camp and there was not the level of unity necessary in order to beat donald trump. i think joe biden is trying to preserve that unity. and you won't see him engage in
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primary tussles, at least not at the beginning. everybody is going to be aiming at him. >> that's a fair point. but i'm going to have a different proposition to you, cenk. somebody is going to convince them that we can do better than the polarization. bernie sanders is at the bottom of the list of working with the other side. joe biden is at the top in the field. >> yeah. no, chris, you're talking about a different time. if you want to work with republicans, you have to work with donald trump. no democrat has any interest in that. you have to work with mitch mcconnell, the heart of darkness. he's more corrupt than donald trump is. when biden talked about how he liked working with thurman, i don't want any piece of that. i don't want to work with republicans. i want to defeat them and that's the essence of the problem with the democratic party. they're reaching out to work with the republicans on their turf.
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they want to do a deal where they do criminal justice reform. fine, i'll take it. i have no problem with that bipartisanship but if they want more tax cuts for the rich, i don't want a corporate democrat that's going to help them do that because it's bad on policy but also bad on politics. the country is incredibly progressive. 76% of the country says raise taxes on the rich. don't lower them. so we should pick someone three quarters of the country agrees with. >> i would argue with you that if you want a progressive agenda you should be aiming your attacks not at joe biden but elizabeth warren. the reason joe biden is in the front right now is because elizabeth warren and bernie sanders are dividing the progressive vote among themselves. this is very good for biden because we all learned from 2016 that bernie sanders is a stubborn old goat that's going to stay there until the bitter end even if he has no chance of winning.
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so as long as sanders and warren are dividing the progressive vote, joe biden has a niche all to himself. your problem is not joe biden but people that support joe biden, their vote is going to go to pete or their vote is going to go to kamala harris. bernie sanders is not their second option. >> we have to do this conversation in phases. i'm loving having cenk and i'm loving having you. come back in and let's see who is more happy with where things are. cenk, thank you. anna as always, thank you. good luck with that. there's still the prospect of impeachment that could up end the election. where is it? speaker pelosi just had more to say about it and so will another powerhouse in her party. there may be a shift. congresswoman katie porter's stance, is there a decision?
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all right. democrats continue their hamlet routine, while the speaker of the house is talking impeachment. >> it's not off the table. my obligation is to do whatever we do in the most effective way possible. i believe in the committee system and it will bubble up from there. >> bubble up? what does that mean? that means the caucus and how many want it. one member of her caucus still deciding is congresswoman katie porter of california. welcome to "primetime." called you kim porter by mistake in the tease. the resemblance between you and the actress is striking, but it was a mistake. professor, good to have you on show. >> thank you. >> let me bounce some stuff off you. by the way, you were brilliant with bill maher. he said too you were very funny. the idea of where your party needs to be with its nominee, i know you're going to say it's too early but in terms of what you think the goal should be, what's the answer? >> so, look, i don't think we need an answer because this
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isn't my job to figure out. this isn't any commentators on the show, it isn't your job to figure out. this is the job of the american people. democracy is a process. it's messy. i disagree with bill that there's too many candidates. i don't know what the right number of candidates is and neither does he. i grew up in iowa before i moved to california to the promised land and i think this field will winnow down, people will make their choices and having this conversation is really, really important and i think efforts to cut it off and say oh it has to be this candidate or it can't be that candidate -- >> i'm not asking you to cut it off and i think the conversation is important but you're assuming it's a productive conversation. >> well, so far i think it has been. >> chasing biden. chasing biden. that's what we have seen a lot of the last two weeks. >> but trump is going to be attacking somebody and if he is attacking biden so be it. soon he'll tire of that.
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and he'll turn his wrath on somebody else. >> i'm saying the democrats have been chasing him. >> sure but that's normal. this is what happens. there's always a front runner. there was a front runner last time and a front runner before that. i was in iowa in '08 when president obama ran and at the time he was way at the back of the pack. we had yard signs over that winter in my house in iowa for virtually every candidate. every week they would give us a different yard sign. the snow would fall and they'd give us a different yard sign. it's normal. as long as we're seeing candidates be positive toward each other and a certain amount of criticism is healthy. the american people need to be reminded that criticism is about policy. for instance i think joe biden was wrong on the hyde amendment and i'm glad he reversed his position. that's healthy political discourse and what trump does is not. so we actually need to see that healthy political discourse among the democratic candidates. >> so while i agree, you will have a vote in deciding which direction you go with how to hold this president accountable.
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what do you believe? you're the professor. let's get a little socratic with this. what is your duty in this matter as congress? >> my duty arises when there is a vote. i have to take a vote that reflects the facts as i know them and the law as it exists. at this point, we've brought this to the floor. i'll tell you that every day in a really accelerating way we're having conversations about it. i talked about it again tonight with another colleague. so that dialogue back and forth with colleagues and with people in our districts is incredibly important. the first couple of months i was in office, i got maybe a dozen emails or phone calls about impeachment. now we're getting hundreds and hundreds a week. it's on the american people's minds and there's still a lot of confusion and facts to set forth and the president created that misinformation. so by saying there was no collusion found by mr. mueller he failed to mention that there was substantial evidence of
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obstruction of justice. not just one act but four acts. >> and there arguably was evidence of collusion, which is a behavior, not a crime. and the question is what is the most efficacious process for you guys? now i keep calling the democrats hamlet, to impeach or not to impeach? don't you have to make a decision? right now it's death by a thousand cuts and it's not getting anywhere. >> we do need to make a decision and relatively soon. there's that sense of urgency that's building and part of what we're doing is trying to come together to have these conversations and talk it over with each other because when we do take this action and make this vote and i think we are headed in that direction we want to have those conversations and ask questions and have them answered. i heard speaker pelosi saying she is tired of donald trump and doesn't want to talk about him.
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i sympathize, but this is not a problem we can wish away. >> thank you. >> this is something that we have to confront. >> you have a duty. >> we also have a duty to pass a budget and we're tackling appropriations this week. we can't kick this can forever. it is coming. this question is coming and i'm glad to have such a smart group of colleagues to talk about it with. >> i don't see it as binary and existential as some people do. i don't believe that. be clear, strong, and sell it to the american people and then move on or whatever. are you or anyone else that you're aware of putting forth a meaningful appropriation bill specifically to help the kids on the border. no strings attached. nothing else in there but giving them what they need right now as the dhs acting secretary made his case yesterday. >> i know there's a bill being considered and i talked with a
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colleague about it today that would mandate that they meet the basic human needs of all children at the border, water, nutrition, medicine, clothing, all of those things. >> they need money. >> they need money to do that. we have appropriated money for the border and we're going to continue to appropriate money for the border. no doubt about it. defending our country's border is appropriate. it is important and does require resources but we want to make sure that we do that in a way consistent with american values and our obligation to shelter refugees and to treat people humanely. i'm glad the secretary of dhs is asking for that. >> consistent with the necessary focus. it really is a right now issue. katie porter for california, thank you for being on the show. you're always welcome here to make the case to the american people. >> thank you. >> all right. so you know that secret deal that the president has been teasing about the border and with mexico and how mexico says he doesn't know what he's talking about -- did you see
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listen, it should be enough if mexico is going to put troops on the border and have increased urgency. if the tariffs help get them there, great, even if they were talking about it before. why torture with what it is and what it isn't? the president had to tease today not once but twice. actually four times. >> that's the agreement that everybody says they don't have. but here's the agreement. it's a simple agreement. so here's your thing. they all say he doesn't. i just give you my word so right here is the agreement. it's very simple. it's right here. >> he sent me a copy. it's right here. there it is. what else do you need to see? the deal is done so we just can't see it yet. this is where we are. we had to take the snapshots of
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the piece of paper that he was waving at the press and it looks like it does, in fact, mention mexico and migrants. but is it things they were discussing? is it new? is he playing us? does it matter? on monday the mexican foreign minister held up his own piece of paper. he said no such secret agreement exists. d. lemon, what have you got? >> i'm holding in my hand. you're not old enough to remember that, are you? >> johnny carson. >> karnak the great. one of the funniest skits on late night television. he's anything if he's a showman, do you know what i mean? >> i just don't get the need for the exaggeration here. i know people can say mexico was doing all of this before. look, the threat of the tariffs moved them. you can say he shouldn't have it
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done this way. it hurts our standing and the authorization of the upcoming trade deal but isn't it enough? why does he have to do that with the paper. he knows it's going to bring criticism. >> because he can't help himself. believe what you want to believe. i'll believe it when i see it. all the reporting shows that mexico had begun to do things because he was saying mexico had done nothing. they had begun to do things in the way of keeping people from coming across the border. >> thank you. >> they had ramped up security and done more arrests. they had even released a statement on the monday before talking about what they were doing and what they were planning to do so when i see the actual agreement and look at what has been done before then i can make an assessment but if the history shows anything the president created this crisis so he could come in at the end and say look, i have the piece of paper in my hand. i fixed it. much like he says i've done it all. make sure that you tune in.
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it's going to be about a big summit. >> he has definitely oversold before. but this time, the acting head of dhs says, look. the amount of troops is going to be more and happen sooner than we expected. >> that's good. >> that is good. i'll take progress where we find it. >> i hope that's it. good stuff coming up. so you remember the whole thing that happened with hillary clinton and the president and his folks, they do the same thing with nancy pelosi. they put out the fake videos. she's drunk, or something is wrong with hillary clinton. well they're at it again when it comes to joe biden and our senior media correspondent put together the evidence that the president and the folks that speak for him and also fox news putting forward these conspiracy theories. remember in 2016, do you know who the most travelled secretary of state in history was or is as of this moment? >> who? >> hillary clinton. an exhaustive record breaking
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schedule. she went to more countries than any other secretary of state. second in miles travelled. air miles travelled, only to condoleezza rice. but they questioned her fitness and health. expose it. see you in a second. all right, now. you hear what happened today with jon stewart and the 9/11 first responders. it took a celebrity to get focus on this issue. it shouldn't have. now that there's focus, we can't keep forgetting the people we promised to remember. i will layout the situation. i'm telling you, you are not aware of it. you will be outraged too and we have to argue for what happens next. ♪ acqua di giò. absolu. the new sensuality.
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let's see, aleve is than tylenol extra strength. and last longer with fewer pills. so why am i still thinking about this? i'll take aleve. aleve. proven better on pain.
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the video that is all the rage today is jon stewart outraged after a group of 9/11 first responders and survivors suffering from various illnesses were met by what he perceived to be a no-show congress. listen. >> your indifference cost these
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men and women their most valuable commodity, time. it is the one thing they're running out of. they did their jobs with courage, grace, tenacity, humility. 18 years later, do yours! >> the argument. we have forgotten the people we said we would never forget, and if stewart hadn't been the one to say this, if he hadn't been there i doubt many of us would be aware of the event at all and that bothers me. to be fair it was a subcommittee hearing, not a full committee hearing, so only 14 of the members were supposed to be
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there. the chairman's team tells us 12 of the 14 showed, but even then many of them were floating in and out. the good news is the legislation that stewart and the first responders are asking for to extend benefits until 2090 instead of another few years which keeps happening to them, is supposed to make it out of the committee and to pass the house finally. this isn't over. to be clear, this shouldn't be about jon stewart. what happened in that room today, people called heroes by so many, being met when in need by only a few. it is a metaphor for how the first responders and other survivors have been treated for far too long. for all of the calls to never forget, they have been forgotten. i know this because i was there at the beginning. i reported on it all.
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i know i look a lot younger. i was. the planes hit the tower, i was there. the towers fell, i was there. those i knew, some of them never came home. and in the aftermath, i reported on and tested the air quality, and it never made sense that what i could see with my eyes -- do you see this? i don't show this very often. do you see this? this is what was all over. this is what was on me and the people i was with. and we were inhaling it, it was everywhere there for months for the people who were working there. then when we were saying what was obvious, well, how can the air be -- all of the empty assurances from the mayor and the city, it is fine, it is fine. they were at best wrong and at worst hiding the truth from our heroes.
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so these people have been fighting to have their health claims paid ever since. did you know that? there was a fund from 2001, it was shut off in 2004. it took seven years for the federal government to open it back up under president obama and start compensating for deaths and illnesses linked to toxic exposure at the world trade center, at the pentagon and in shanksfield, pennsylvania. it was re-upped in 2015, but more than 5 billion of the 7.3 billion fund has already been paid out to about 22,500 people. 700 of those payouts were for deaths that occurred well after the attacks because some of these illnesses don't manifest until much later. the problem is, 21,000 claims are still outstanding. so i argue these people have been forgotten, and you should agree because for many of you, be honest, it is the first time you are hearing about any of this. now the fund is running out of money. pending claims may only receive 50% of their value. the fund is scheduled to stop taking claims in december 2020. how? how can we do this to the same people we leaned on as harbingers of hope for virtue in society, those who fought the fires and saved so many and cleared the rubble and showed that we could, indeed, carry on? now that they're weakened by their willingness, we do nothing until a big star incites with us
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his outrage. shame on us all for forgetting. we have left thousands to suffer like this man. >> you all said you would never forget. well, i'm here to make sure that you don't. you made me come down here the day before my 69th round of chemo. i am going to make sure that you never forget to take care of the 9/11 responders. >> that's detective louis alvarez. he came in pain but with purpose to tell the lawmakers that did show up that they were being the opposite of the ideals that we thought we learned on that day. it breaks my heart and it should break yours that we could fail people who never failed us. this bill is going to pass, but it better fund claims until 2090. you men and women in congress
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found more than a billion dollars to build a wall. find the money for those who were there when the buildings fell on 9/11 and were there toiling long after most moved on. show that you can do this and that you do it together. do it because you made a promise to never forget and we all forgot. thank you for watching. "cnn tonight" with d. lemon starts right now. >> they should have been there to listen to those gentlemen's story out of respect, but the really important part is that they sign the bill and they put everything in there and all of the right things into that bill or those bills to take care of the people who took care of those who were vulnerable, who ran into the smoking buildings, the falling buildings, who lost their lives and who were injured. by the way, coming up, the first fbi agent who was on the scene at the pentagon in d.c. is going to join us.

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